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superior
05-30-2012, 08:58 PM
alright guys, stern obviously ****ed us out the getting anthony davis, but we cant change what happened.....so who do we take? Robinson, MKG, Beal, or Drummond?

homestarunner93
05-30-2012, 09:04 PM
I don't even know. We got boned to hell.

NBA_Starter
05-30-2012, 09:06 PM
Take Drummond and wait, we have all the time in the world anyway, still early in the rebuild.

I am physically ill right now. I said for weeks I wouldn't get too nervous whatever happened would happen but losing it to the Hornets?? The fix is in. Stern tells MJ thanks a lot for making my league what it is by sticking it to us! My only hope is that Davis is Tyrus Thomas 2.0 and Drummond, Robinson, whoever we pick 2nd (if we don't trade down) turns out to be the stud of the draft or Beal is Wade 2.0.

superior
05-30-2012, 09:14 PM
I dont think Davis will dissapoint, but at the same time, I think T-Rob will have just as much as an impact. Robinson is a younger blake griffin, Id love to see rob in orange and blue in october

homestarunner93
05-30-2012, 10:10 PM
“Some other teams are going to call us about No. 2,’’ Higgins said. “We’re going to
get some interest there until the pick is called’’ - Rod Higgins from Bonnell's latest blog post


Nice to know that we will field calls on trading down. The Trail Blazers have #6 and #11, I would love to swing a deal with them if they have to have someone at #2. With #6, you're still going to get one of MKG/Robinson/Beal/Drummond/Barnes, plus you get another quality talent at #11 (Royce White/Terrence Jones/John Henson/Meyers Leonard?).

JDM
05-30-2012, 10:45 PM
In that scenario I would love to pick Drummond at 6 and then some SF at 11, maybe Jones or Harkless. Though I suspect Drummond will shoot up boards after great workouts. Physical freaks like him always shoot up in the pre-draft process.

NBA_Starter
05-30-2012, 11:21 PM
Cho, Good listen

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/video/2012/05/30/120530richchomov-2114721

CaseyRyback
05-31-2012, 12:49 AM
We didn't get anything stuck to us. We actually beat the odds. I think Drummond has bust written all over him. -ROBOT

I'd be exstatic with MKG. I think he's already a great defender and athletic wing with the potential to be a superstar. His touch is really good and his shooting touch can be taught.

I'd be OK with Beal, although I think he's rather short.

JDM
05-31-2012, 01:10 AM
I have no ****ing clue anymore.

bobcat fan
05-31-2012, 02:16 AM
drummond @ pick 2. as scouts says that he much better than okafor.
but to be sure mkg is interesting or barnes. both of them can fill 3 position.

and we have some pieces for another pick. we trade with portland ,washington, or even NO.

Monta is beast
05-31-2012, 03:50 AM
I honestly feel bad for you guys, you should have won. But like you said, you can't change it so move on. But I was wondering if you guys would consider trading the pick. Since you didn't get the 1st pick would you guys look to acquire more players to fill out your roster? And if so what would it take. I was thinking something along the lines of this.

GSW Trades
Dorell Wright (good player, expiring contract)
Jeremy Tyler (extremely raw, but talented player)
7th pick
30th pick
35th pick
52nd pick

CHA Trades
Tyrus Thomas (bad contract)
2nd pick

JDM
05-31-2012, 12:10 PM
It's a good thought, but I don't think it's enough. Essentially we would trade the #2 pick and a bad contract for Wright, #7 pick, and bench players. I would rather get back an extra 1st than a bunch of seconds. But it's not that bad of a proposal.

Celtic5
05-31-2012, 12:57 PM
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/splash.html

JDM
05-31-2012, 01:07 PM
Yeah I saw that last night and I nearly cried.

homestarunner93
05-31-2012, 03:47 PM
I honestly feel bad for you guys, you should have won. But like you said, you can't change it so move on. But I was wondering if you guys would consider trading the pick. Since you didn't get the 1st pick would you guys look to acquire more players to fill out your roster? And if so what would it take. I was thinking something along the lines of this.

GSW Trades
Dorell Wright (good player, expiring contract)
Jeremy Tyler (extremely raw, but talented player)
7th pick
30th pick
35th pick
52nd pick

CHA Trades
Tyrus Thomas (bad contract)
2nd pick

I would do that if I'm the Bobcats.

NBA_Starter
05-31-2012, 06:17 PM
Let's look at the options from a need standpoint:

MKG - Would spend his rookie season behind Maggette (unless we package Maggette and something for another 1st rounder.)

Beal - Some say he is better than Hendo right now, we could take him to play the 2 and slide Hendo over to the 3 but that really only works if we trade Maggette.

T-Rob - Height more than anything else is going against him, I saw where he checked in at 6'7 at some camp and him and Biz are not a good fit as small frontcourts are generally not a good idea in the NBA.

Drummond - I think is the wildcard, if we are able to hire Sloan this would be a slam dunk pick as he is sure to get the most out of him and have the "desire for the game" and "motor questions" red flags be afterthoughts in a few years from now.

Barnes - See MKG and Beal and on top of that we'd most likely need to trade down to draft him.

greg_ory_2005
05-31-2012, 06:20 PM
I was really hoping you guys would get the first pick. Although Gilchrist, Beal, or Drummond can become good players. Whoever is taken will probably be under a lot of pressure by fans, knowing that most expected Davis to be on the team.

NBA_Starter
05-31-2012, 06:34 PM
I was really hoping you guys would get the first pick. Although Gilchrist, Beal, or Drummond can become good players. Whoever is taken will probably be under a lot of pressure by fans, knowing that most expected Davis to be on the team.

I think MKG can be an All-Star sooner than later. He kind of reminds me of Luol Deng now and can only get better. That and it's adding an All-Star that we don't have right now.

JDM
05-31-2012, 11:51 PM
For Robinson, a lot is going to depend on what his height is at the Combine. If it's 6'9" or 6'10" then that's great for him, if he's 6'8" or shorter then that really hurts his stock. Since he's a potential pick for us, his height will be instrumental, I think, in the chances of us picking him.

rubx3
06-02-2012, 12:48 AM
Not a bobcats fan but voted for drummond. Athletic centers are hard to come by.

king4day
06-02-2012, 01:48 PM
I picked Robinson. I read he's NBA ready and is Amar'e with better defense. But the height issues mentioned here are most certainly a concern.

king4day
06-03-2012, 12:24 PM
No. 2: Charlotte Bobcats

Thomas Robinson, Kansas Jayhawks:

Don't overthink this pick, Bobcats. You need ready-to-go NBA players right now -- and a lot of them. Robinson will step into your lineup at the power forward position and contribute double-doubles right away.

Last July, I watched Robinson dominate the counselor workouts at the LeBron James Skills Academy in Akron, Ohio. And yes, Anthony Davis, Jared Sullinger, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and the Plumlees were all there competing as well. After biding his time behind the Morris twins at KU, this camp was Robinson's coming-out party.

Then, in what would be a dominating junior season, Robinson basically put the Jayhawks on his back in leading them to the national championship game. Here's how.

While Robinson is closer to 6-foot-9 than 6-10, he has the requisite NBA athleticism, low-post skills and high-energy motor that will endear him to any franchise in the lottery. And it's clear that rebounding tends to translate from college to the NBA. His 31 percent defensive rebounding rate was the best in college basketball. He physically dominated the country for most of the season.

Robinson's toughness and level of competence as a player is a great starting point for the Bobcats, who are obviously disappointed they won't land Davis. They have to start somewhere, and a guy who will get them points and rebounds immediately is a good place.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8000354/2012-nba-draft-jeremy-lamb-cavaliers-top-draft-fits

Here's another article that raves about Robinson. Hard not to wanna snag this guy. Almost sounds like, in other drafts, he could be a #1 pick.

homestarunner93
06-03-2012, 05:51 PM
Low-ceiling, would be a pretty poor pick.

bigsams50
06-03-2012, 07:01 PM
If people say he is like Amare, then why do people say he doesnt have much upside?

JDM
06-03-2012, 07:05 PM
I wouldn't mind Robinson, especially if we get back into the lottery and take a high upside player like PJ3 or Harkless. After reading more into him, I think he can be a staple at PF for the next 10+ years. Good rebounder, good in the post, and he has a good mid-range game. The big thing, though, will be what his height is at the combine- 6'8" or shorter, and I would rethink it.

bigsams50
06-03-2012, 07:41 PM
From all the highlight videos i have seen of Robinson, he looks closer to 6'7 then 6'9/6'10

JDM
06-03-2012, 08:01 PM
That's what I fear. We'll see though at the combine.

NBA_Starter
06-03-2012, 10:38 PM
Not a fan at all of us picking T-Rob unless we trade down.

JDM
06-03-2012, 11:12 PM
Understandable. He won't be a "superstar," but he'll have all-star ability. A good #2 or great #3 option on a team.

bobcat fan
06-07-2012, 09:49 AM
low ceiling for robinson, defensive wise its not going t o work, since biyombo lack size too. i rather have a wing barnes or mkg for the 2nd pick.

as other says that barnes is much taller than robinson.

bigsams50
06-07-2012, 10:30 AM
Someone in the NBA forum posted a picture, and like Bobcat fan said, Barnes was noticeable taller then Robinson

JDM
06-07-2012, 07:44 PM
I've never understood the logic of gauging the height of players based on pictures. So many different factors come into play when looking at a picture, that it is an unreliable way to determine height. Sure you may be able to get a general idea, but to put any more stock in a picture than that would be foolish.

Oh and this is not directed at you all personally, it is just a general action that I have seen in multiple forums that I don't understand. I'll just wait until tomorrow to get the official measurements of players.

bigsams50
06-08-2012, 02:32 AM
Pictures sometimes help you get a general idea of a player though. Like after seeing that picture, i think he is closer to 6'7, 6'8 then 6'10

bigsams50
06-08-2012, 10:28 AM
Bleacher Report is saying his official measurements are 6'8 and 3/4 with shoes, with a 7'3 wingspan

tyfreaks brotha
06-08-2012, 10:59 AM
If you guys are willing to wait, go Drummond or MGK. I think MGK would be a good fit. Kemba/MGK/Biyimbo and a top pick next year is a good start to rebuild. Many have questioned the work ethic of Drummond, which is why I would pass on him, as either a Bobcats or Kings fan

homestarunner93
06-08-2012, 12:23 PM
Bleacher Report is saying his official measurements are 6'8 and 3/4 with shoes, with a 7'3 wingspan

No longer a viable option for the Bobcats.

bigsams50
06-08-2012, 02:14 PM
I agree. If he was about 6'10 i would have loved to have had him on this team. Now though, i dont think he is worth the number 2 pick.

JDM
06-08-2012, 02:43 PM
I don't think it's a bad height for a PF, as long as the C is tall. Unfortunately we have Bismack, who is already short, so I dont like the idea of Robinson and Bismack manning our frontcourt.

SluggeR
06-14-2012, 03:15 PM
Beal..

bigsams50
06-14-2012, 03:35 PM
I don't think it's a bad height for a PF, as long as the C is tall. Unfortunately we have Bismack, who is already short, so I dont like the idea of Robinson and Bismack manning our frontcourt.

Thats the thing. If we had a seven footer i would have been open to it. Now, IDK.

Lindystud36
06-15-2012, 01:14 PM
Trade the Pick to the Thunder for Harden

NBA_Starter
06-15-2012, 06:37 PM
Trade the Pick to the Thunder for Harden

As long as he signs an extension first then I'm all for it!:love:

NBA_Starter
06-15-2012, 06:39 PM
T-Rob's workout with the Wizards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMIJAKVNm2s&feature=player_embedded

Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QKvym-mL8GQ

NBA_Starter
06-15-2012, 06:40 PM
Beal's Workout with the Wizards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ib8Clfreyak

Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btSTQuc6Ajw&feature=player_embedded

JDM
06-15-2012, 09:25 PM
Beal looked sharp, but that's to be expected in a shooting drill. Robinson looked uncomfortable, which again is to be expected because it was a shooting drill. I was actually surprised he didn't make more after reading that he was working on extending his shot. But it's a small sample.

bigsams50
06-16-2012, 07:37 PM
The Bobcats have "made it clear that the No. 2 pick is available," according to Hoopsworld.com, but if they don't find a suitable deal they will "likely draft Thomas Robinson."
The Bobcats are reportedly looking for a young stud in return for the pick (Alex Kennedy throws out the names Rudy Gay and James Harden), and may be asking too much for any teams to bite. Follow the link for tons more pre-draft speculation and rumors. Jun 16 - 6:12 PM


http://rotoworld.com/player/nba/1961/thomas-robinson

bigsams50
06-16-2012, 07:37 PM
I will be disappointed if thats what happens

NBA_Starter
06-16-2012, 07:44 PM
We would turn into the Hawks with a tiny frontcourt, hopefully Cho is smarter than that!:pray:

homestarunner93
06-16-2012, 08:40 PM
Hoopsworld is probably just speculating on who we would draft. We haven't even had players work out in Charlotte yet.

JDM
06-16-2012, 10:45 PM
I agree, it's all hearsay at this point. Without even having workouts take place yet I find it all very presumptuous.

NBA_Starter
06-16-2012, 10:49 PM
Cho is going to take BPA regardless, I find it hard to believe he thinks that a midget PF that can't shoot is the BPA.

NBA_Starter
06-16-2012, 10:50 PM
Kings Pre-Draft Workout: Andre Drummond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPiGu8pWwLA&feature=player_embedded

Impressive

JDM
06-16-2012, 11:24 PM
I wouldn't trust anyone to throw a ball from behind in between my legs. **** that.

He's certainly impressive physically. He looked uncomfortable, though, receiving the passes while in the post. I saw a couple potential bobbles from where he didn't receive the ball fully. Needs to work on that or he'll turn it over.

bigsams50
06-17-2012, 08:42 AM
Drummond has potential to be a beast. He scares me alot though.

marjon
06-17-2012, 03:50 PM
look, im tellin u now, im tellin u now....if Charlotte doesnt draft Harrison Barnes, they and everybody else that passed on him will regeret it..mark my words, quote me, wtever..the kid is the gem in this class

NBA_Starter
06-17-2012, 05:24 PM
If we draft Barnes that would probably be the breaking point, I'd have to find a new team!

JDM
06-17-2012, 05:38 PM
We can only draft Barnes if MKG and Beal are already gone. At that point we can consider him along with Drummond and Robinson.

NBA_Starter
06-17-2012, 05:47 PM
Beal or bust

homestarunner93
06-17-2012, 06:51 PM
I would be just fine with taking Barnes at #2. He has more offensive potential than anyone else in this draft.

bigsams50
06-17-2012, 07:18 PM
If we stay at number 2, then for me its Barnes, MKG, Beal, Drummond, Robinson. Barnes has the potential to be something great for us.

Kdirt
06-17-2012, 11:36 PM
Curry and Klay for #2?

homestarunner93
06-18-2012, 12:03 AM
I would do that in a heart beat, but no way the Warriors would.

Kdirt
06-18-2012, 09:15 AM
I would do that in a heart beat, but no way the Warriors would.

Don't think I would either, just kinda gauging value around here.

JDM
06-19-2012, 11:57 AM
One acronym: MKG

Rufuspaul
06-19-2012, 01:06 PM
I dont think Davis will dissapoint, but at the same time, I think T-Rob will have just as much as an impact. Robinson is a younger blake griffin, Id love to see rob in orange and blue in october


I have felt this way from the beginning.

packfan1
06-19-2012, 06:04 PM
Bring MKG to Charlotte.

Rufuspaul
06-20-2012, 05:32 PM
Bring MKG to Charlotte.

I wouldn't be upset with MKG, especially since we might only get 20 games out of Maggette. His jump shot is ugly, but that can be improved.

I really like T-Rob though. I don't think people realize just how much Boris hurt the team last year by checking out. T-Rob will bring a tough post presence that was sorely lacking.

JDM
06-20-2012, 06:20 PM
What do you guys think of a comparison between T-Rob and Josh Smith? Both are super athletic PF's with the possibility of a jumper now and then. I don't think T-Rob is quite as athletic, but I think he's closer to Smith than Blake Griffin (as I've seen some suggest).

bigsams50
06-20-2012, 06:58 PM
I wont lie, i havnt seen much of his game to give an accurate opinion, but from what i've read, I dont see him being as good as Smith is defensively

JDM
06-20-2012, 07:50 PM
I can see that. I think that's were Smith's superior athleticism (but not by much) may allow him to get into better positions on the defensive end (for blocks and the like).

bigsams50
06-20-2012, 07:53 PM
His size worries me a little though. Mostly because we had Okafor, and he didnt pan out as we had hoped

JDM
06-20-2012, 08:01 PM
I agree, I'm not sold on him either. I'm just trying to gauge who is his best NBA comp.

D12 fan
06-20-2012, 08:54 PM
Amare for #2 pick,Thomas?

aka flatbush special

flatbush knicks
06-20-2012, 08:57 PM
:facepalm:

JDM
06-20-2012, 09:10 PM
No.

NBA_Starter
06-21-2012, 04:28 PM
The word is Barnes really brought it today in workouts!


Impressive work from @HBarnes in #CatsDraft dunk drill. 15 dunks in 1 minute - all with authority. #nba
From @bobcats 45 minutes ago


Just watched @HBarnes knock down over 80% of his midrange jumpers in this #CatsDraft shooting drill #nba @bobcats 33 minutes ago


“@rick_bonnell: #Bobcats' Dunlap on Barnes: "He shoots the ball extremely well, he's a very good athlete and he's got a good attitude."”

homestarunner93
06-21-2012, 08:17 PM
I really believe that Barnes will be a member of the Bobcats somehow, someway come draft day.

JDM
06-21-2012, 10:49 PM
It wouldn't shock me, but I would be somewhat disappointed if we do.

JDM
06-22-2012, 12:10 AM
My ranking right now.

1. MKG
2. Robinson
3. Barnes
4. Beal
5. Drummond

After Robinson I would seriously start looking to trade down.

Total360
06-22-2012, 01:49 AM
We all are sitting here thinking what are the Bobcats going to do.... From my perception it looks like we are looking to take either MKG, Barnes or Beal. If we do take Robinson then why not trade down to the four. Cavs and Wiz are gonna take a guard or wing man so this makes total sense.

Make a package around our pick and the Cavs #4 & #24. If Robinson is who they want.

Can someone give me a little detail on the below players;
MKG , Robinson, Barnes, Beal

Whats the major difference between Barnes, Beal and MKG?

bobcat fan
06-22-2012, 02:39 AM
i think CATS will pick either barnes or drummond....

it is a suprise on draft day...

Total360
06-22-2012, 07:07 AM
i think CATS will pick either barnes or drummond....

it is a suprise on draft day...

http://www.rantsports.com/blog/2012/06/21/nba-rumors-charlotte-bobcats-close-to-dealing-no-2-pick-to-cleveland-cavaliers/

Trade with the Cavs coming. Come next week the Bobcats will have Robinson or Barnes on their team.

Take Barnes. Hes a scorer and we need offensive. Well come to think of it there is nothing we dont need.

NBA_Starter
06-26-2012, 01:24 AM
The draft is getting closer, I'm excited!

JDM
06-26-2012, 01:39 PM
:nod:

Are we going to have a draft day thread or just use this?

NBA_Starter
06-26-2012, 04:49 PM
:nod:

Are we going to have a draft day thread or just use this?

I'll make one :cheers:

JDM
06-26-2012, 06:09 PM
:cheers:

packfan1
06-27-2012, 10:19 PM
Still have no idea what we are going to do.

JDM
06-27-2012, 10:24 PM
Me too. I think I have a general idea but I also have a feeling that we are going to do something that no one has been talking about.

Just think, this time tomorrow all will be known.

packfan1
06-27-2012, 10:50 PM
Me too. I think I have a general idea but I also have a feeling that we are going to do something that no one has been talking about.

Just think, this time tomorrow all will be known.

:nod:

aussie
06-28-2012, 10:32 AM
David Aldridge: Source: Bobcats have five legit offers they're currently exploring to trade the second pick overall in tonight's NBA Draft. Twitter

packfan1
06-28-2012, 10:42 AM
David Aldridge: Source: Bobcats have five legit offers they're currently exploring to trade the second pick overall in tonight's NBA Draft. Twitter

I want to find out what they all are, but we probably will only know about the one that we accept, if we accept one.:speechless: