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Monta is beast
05-18-2012, 02:37 AM
Presuming the Warriors don’t get jumped in the May 30 lottery and are able to keep their own first-round pick (if it’s top-7 they keep it), there are strong indications that they’re logically eyeing a big upgrade at small forward.

I think that’s a natural product of the draft’s depth at SF and the basketball operation staff’s belief that SF is the GSW’s biggest positional need, if they can get a true play-maker and/or defensive force.

How important is a very good two-way SF?

Think of what Metta World Peace added to the Lakers in Game 7 over the weekend… or Manu Ginobili and James Harden give to the Spurs and Thunder every game.

Or what Andre Iguodala does for the 76ers (maybe he’s doing too much in the playoffs for the Warriors’ plans, since Iguodala was an early potential trade target–and is probably not obtainable now).


Obviously, the Warriors could use other things beyond a SF–you don’t miss the playoffs five straight years without holes throughout the roster, including true back-ups at center and power forward and depth at point guard.

But, if the Warriors are ever close to fully healthy, they go into 2012-’13 with:

-A big, two-way center (Andrew Bogut, if healthy);

-A high-workload power forward they love (David Lee);

-A point guard with a tremendous shooting touch (Steph Curry, if healthy);

-And a big, promising shooting guard they love (Klay Thompson).

That leaves small forward–it was pretty obvious throughout the season, and it’s becoming clearer now that Dorell Wright just isn’t the preferred choice heading into 2012-’13 (his last contracted year).

And it leaves the GSWs a little questionable in the perimeter defense and athletic ability across the board.

A good young two-way SF could help in all those areas. They don’t necessarily need a guy firing 3s, because they have Curry and Thompson.

They possibly need a perimeter player who can penetrate, pass, run, rebound and most of all guard the opponents’ best wing player.

Why isn’t Wright the guy? Wright just isn’t a play-maker on offense and his defense hasn’t been sterling, especially last year.

Maybe it’s more than that, maybe not, but I’ve heard that the coaching staff is definitely behind the idea of finding a new starter at that spot.

Meanwhile, back-up SF Brandon Rush is a restricted free agent and might be best suited to be a back-up, anyway.

And Dominic McGuire, an unrestricted free agent, is not viewed as a starter–he’s a great defender and rebounder at any spot, great team guy, but not a play-maker.

That means, the GSWs, if they keep their own pick, would either draft the best SF available in the top-7 or see if they can trade the pick for an established young veteran.

I’ve already mentioned that Iguodala would be almost idea, but at this point, with Philly in the second round, I don’t know if he’s going to be moved.

One other top possibility seems out of the GSW’s reach: Portland’s Nic Batum.

And I’m not sure Lamar Odom and J.R. Smith are quite what the Warriors need or are seeking.

Which brings us back to the draft…

The three consensus SF candidates potentially available at 7: North Carolina’s Harrison Barnes, Kentucky’s Terrence Jones, Baylor’s Perry Jones III.

At this point, I think Kentucky’s Jones is the most interesting prospect there for the GSWs, because he’s a potential tough two-way performer.

–By the way, if the Warriors land in the top-3, then Kentucky’s Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is definitely a SF fit. He won’t be there at 7, though.

This is very early in the process and we don’t know how these guys will perform in group and individual workouts into late-June.

* I’ve also heard from multiple sources that the Warriors are taking a good look at Illinois center Meyers Leonard for depth purposes on the front line–but not as a top-7 candidate.

Leonard, an athletic 7-footer who played two years with the Illini, is more likely somebody they’d potentially target in the mid-teens to early-20s.

That’s if they can use the 1st-round pick they got from San Antonio together with a high 2nd-round pick (they have their own, Brooklyn’s and Atlanta’s) to jump back into the right area for Leonard.

* The Chron’s Matier & Ross report that San Francisco mayor Ed Lee and other city officials are now officially and publicly calling for the Warriors to move across the bay.

M & R cite the Pier 30-32 location (nice picture) as the most likely to be discussed.

But it still seems likely that the Warriors have some negotiating with the Giants about the site adjacent to AT&T Park, involving Pier 50.

The GSWs can get out of their Oakland lease starting with the 2017-’18 season, which is just a little over five years from now.

As Joe Lacob suggested to me several weeks ago, you can just count backwards from there to figure out a timetable for a hard decision on a new arena site.

If it’s a new development site (like Piers 30-32), that’d have to be circled and declared probably at some point before 2013.

If it’s in conjunction with an organization (like the Giants) that already has development rights to much of the potential property (like the parking lot adjacent to AT&T Park and Pier 50), then I’d think early-2013 would be the right deadline for an announced go-ahead.

* The Warriors should be pleased that 2011 draft pick Klay Thompson has reportedly been picked for the Team USA Select squad, which will practice against the Olympic team in the weeks before the London Games.

That work vs. LeBron, Wade & Co. will be good for Thompson and it’s a good sign that the Warriors aren’t the only organization that believes Thompson is on the rise.

However…

Remember, three years ago Anthony Randolph was invited to a Team USA mini-camp, which the GSWs and their fans celebrated with their usual non-subtle whoops and pronouncements of glory.

Players rise or fall by their own performances, not based on a Team USA invite.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2012/05/14/warriors-sf-update-san-francisco-small-forwards-and-more/


I know this probably belongs in the Warriors forum, but I wanted to get a non-biased opinion on this matter. What value does the pick hold? A couple of names are thrown around, which include Andre Iguodala, Nicolas Batum, and Wilson Chandler. Do you guys think Dorell Wright and the 7th pick would be enough to acquire one of those three?

Becks2307
05-18-2012, 02:41 AM
this is a nice draft for SFs they should be able to pick up one at 7

Jumba
05-18-2012, 02:48 AM
If the Warriors actually keep their pick. There is still some chances that the pick is Utah's

Sadds The Gr8
05-18-2012, 02:48 AM
Iggy would fit that team perfectly. 7th and Wright for Iggy would be a pretty nice deal.

Monta is beast
05-18-2012, 02:50 AM
Iggy would fit that team perfectly. 7th and Wright for Iggy would be a pretty nice deal.

That would be a very interesting team.

Curry
Thompson
Iguodala
Lee
Bogut

D1JM
05-18-2012, 02:53 AM
i wouldnt give up the 7th pick for iggy in this draft.

Monta is beast
05-18-2012, 02:58 AM
This draft is way over-hyped in my opinion. After the 3rd pick there is a major gap in talent.

naps
05-18-2012, 03:10 AM
This draft is way over-hyped in my opinion.

Finally, someone called it. The way this class has been hyped you would think this would be better than 84 or 96 or 03 class but I just don't see it being compared to those legendary classes.

D1JM
05-18-2012, 03:10 AM
barnes could probably drop to #7. you think he is overhyped?

D1JM
05-18-2012, 03:12 AM
Finally, someone called it. The way this class has been hyped you would think this would be better than 84 or 96 or 03 class but I just don't see it being compared to those legendary classes.

probably not as good if you are talking about wade, lebron etc.. but a guy that looks very promising can drop to #15-18. a guy like rivers can drop out of the lotto. legendary classes were top heavy, this one seems like you can get a top 5 guy in the mid teens.

Sadds The Gr8
05-18-2012, 03:12 AM
Doubt Barnes drops to 7. he'll go top 5 for sure.

The draft isn't loaded with superstars, but it's deep and I see alot of guys that have potential to become borderline all-stars. Only superstar I see is Davis, but after that I think Beal, Lamb, Sullenger, MKG, T-Rob, Rivers, Barnes have potential to become all-star or borderline all-star players.

Monta is beast
05-18-2012, 03:26 AM
I don't think Barnes is a all-star player though. Jones III is a huge question mark. So on the surface, yeah this is a Small Forward heavy draft, but when you look into it, it's really not. I would love to get Batum or Chandler for the 7th pick and Wright though. :drool:

Sadds The Gr8
05-18-2012, 03:42 AM
I don't think Barnes is a all-star player though. Jones III is a huge question mark. So on the surface, yeah this is a Small Forward heavy draft, but when you look into it, it's really not. I would love to get Batum or Chandler for the 7th pick and Wright though. :drool:

I personally think Barnes will be a bust, but theres still a chance he can be good

Monta is beast
05-18-2012, 03:45 AM
I personally think Barnes will be a bust, but theres still a chance he can be good

I think he can be a solid starter, but he'll be taken to high imo.

corky831
05-18-2012, 09:51 AM
I think Barnes will bust, but a SF that I think will be very good who will be picked prob. in the teens or 20s is Jeffery Taylor from Vandy. Kid is explosive

da ThRONe
05-18-2012, 01:06 PM
Finally, someone called it. The way this class has been hyped you would think this would be better than 84 or 96 or 03 class but I just don't see it being compared to those legendary classes.

In terms of overall quality I would say no. I see no clear superstar. However in terms of depth I think this draft could surpass expectations. A lot of boom or bust guys, but if some of these guys pan out you could easily see some serious quality as well.