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DR_1
05-10-2012, 09:56 PM
If you were watching the Bulls-philly game, you will see some of those calls (taking away the Gibson 3, tons of ticky-tacky fouls) and no-calls (flagrant on Asik, numerous reach-ins) were the worst I have ever freaking seen. My dog could have don better. The NBA needs to launch a full-scale investigation, because the officiating freaking sucks!

asandhu23
05-10-2012, 09:57 PM
this thread has potential.

KB-Pau-DH2012
05-10-2012, 09:57 PM
You Lost, Philly won.

In the words of Kobe....Get over it.

pd7631
05-10-2012, 09:58 PM
:cry:

Geek
05-10-2012, 09:58 PM
So basically your crying because your team isn't getting the calls you are used to getting with D-Rose on the court?

Mr Costanza
05-10-2012, 09:59 PM
I thought only us knick fans complained about the refs??

guru
05-10-2012, 09:59 PM
Pretty sure we lost cause we can't make free throws.

VCaintdead17
05-10-2012, 09:59 PM
Philly was better than you, simple as that.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
05-10-2012, 09:59 PM
Someone's mad.

beasted86
05-10-2012, 10:00 PM
Yeah, I was watching the Celtics game and I watch them give Teague a technical for basically nothing, then on the other end (I assume some sort of "makeup call") they basically let Joe Johnson tap save the ball inbounds to himself (self-pass).

I don't know what they are doing half the time.

PhillyFinezt
05-10-2012, 10:00 PM
This series had the worst officiating I have ever seen. You had your fair share of missed calls but no where near us, but hey we won so im over it

heyman321
05-10-2012, 10:01 PM
U calm and collected?

Khri
05-10-2012, 10:01 PM
If you were watching the Bulls-philly game, you will see some of those calls (taking away the Gibson 3, tons of ticky-tacky fouls) and no-calls (flagrant on Asik, numerous reach-ins) were the worst I have ever freaking seen. My dog could have don better. The NBA needs to launch a full-scale investigation, because the officiating freaking sucks!

:laugh2:

Mr Costanza
05-10-2012, 10:01 PM
First "he mad" should be banned for unoriginality.

DaSeba5
05-10-2012, 10:01 PM
Even though it sucks for Bull fans that they had injuries, the Sixers won. Get over it.

JC_
05-10-2012, 10:02 PM
I didn't see the game but yes NBA officiating blows.

D12 fan
05-10-2012, 10:02 PM
Ha,of course the officiating sucks Chicago loss get over it.LMAO

Avenged
05-10-2012, 10:02 PM
Agreed.

But hey, you were without Rose & Noah and still made this a series. Don't take it too hard.

asandhu23
05-10-2012, 10:02 PM
he steaming.

carter15
05-10-2012, 10:02 PM
Quit whining DRose. The officiating was way better than your sim league team ;)

BigBlueCrew
05-10-2012, 10:02 PM
Join the club dude

Geek
05-10-2012, 10:07 PM
NBA officiating sucks.

But you have to deal with it.

benzni
05-10-2012, 10:10 PM
Believe me. Officiating sucks in all sports

Abel Ye
05-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Knicks Forum

B'sCeltsPatsSox
05-10-2012, 10:11 PM
Believe me. Officiating sucks in all sports

Especially when MY team loses.

Punk
05-10-2012, 10:12 PM
And I thought Knick fans were the crazy ones for saying this along time ago? Yes, it does suck.

The biggest teams that get the most one sided calls are Boston/Miami. Rose goes out and the Bulls start getting screwed by the refs, no secret why.

KB-Pau-DH2012
05-10-2012, 10:12 PM
Knicks Forum

:laugh:

sixer04fan
05-10-2012, 10:13 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry:

sixer04fan
05-10-2012, 10:13 PM
Knicks Forum

Haha classic

VCaintdead17
05-10-2012, 10:14 PM
Knicks Forum

:laugh: holy ****. Well done.

Canterbury
05-10-2012, 10:15 PM
This has been well established.

NoahH
05-10-2012, 10:16 PM
Omer Asik CHOKED!!!! That was classic

ManRam
05-10-2012, 10:18 PM
Has there been a game all year where the losing team (and even sometimes the winning team) didn't whine about the officiating? Especially whining and subsequently ignoring the real reasons their team won?

The Bulls can look squarely in the mirror to see why they lost that game :shrug:

oak2455
05-10-2012, 10:18 PM
I thought only us knick fans complained about the refs??

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

t_money25
05-10-2012, 10:19 PM
There's nothing new about this. NBA officiating has sucked for years

HrtHustleNMscle
05-10-2012, 10:21 PM
I think it's amusing how people are just dismissing this. Especially since it has been bad for more than just the Bulls/Sixers. They really do need to do something to improve it, nothing is worse for an athlete than a game or series being decided by someone not playing.

Tanakid777
05-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Knicks Forum

:rimshot:

Htownballa1622
05-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Knicks Forum

ahahaha. lmao

:p

HrtHustleNMscle
05-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Has there been a game all year where the losing team (and even sometimes the winning team) didn't whine about the officiating? Especially whining and subsequently ignoring the real reasons their team won?

The Bulls can look squarely in the mirror to see why they lost that game :shrug:

Yea, because if they did they would be in uniform and Rose/Noah would be in street clothes and a knee brace.

DR_1
05-10-2012, 10:23 PM
I wasn't just talking about this series in my original post. This is a league-wide issue, and you just flat out stupid if you don't think so.

ManRam
05-10-2012, 10:23 PM
I think it's amusing how people are just dismissing this. Especially since it has been bad for more than just the Bulls/Sixers. They really do need to do something to improve it, nothing is worse for an athlete than a game or series being decided by someone not playing.

How do you improve it? Robot refs?

You want instant replay for every single foul? What do you want. It's part of the game. People gotta learn to deal with it. Refs are humans and they do as good of a job as they humanly can. We all make mistakes.

But in the end, the Bulls only have themselves to blame. They had this game, and choked it away :shrug:

DaSeba5
05-10-2012, 10:23 PM
Knicks Forum

:laugh2:

The Ooh Child
05-10-2012, 10:24 PM
If you were watching the Bulls-philly game, you will see some of those calls (taking away the Gibson 3, tons of ticky-tacky fouls) and no-calls (flagrant on Asik, numerous reach-ins) were the worst I have ever freaking seen. My dog could have don better. The NBA needs to launch a full-scale investigation, because the officiating freaking sucks!

lol

Abel Ye
05-10-2012, 10:25 PM
I'm a Knicks fan btw soo don't bash me brothers :cool:

DR_1
05-10-2012, 10:28 PM
lol

Investigation was the wrong word. Overhaul might be better.

Ty Fast
05-10-2012, 10:28 PM
ask the kings how bad the refs suck

raiderNlakerfan
05-10-2012, 10:29 PM
Hahahahahaah

DR_1
05-10-2012, 10:29 PM
Quit whining DRose. The officiating was way better than your sim league team ;)

Do we have to go through this again? I'm tanking now lol.

jammastershake
05-10-2012, 10:30 PM
Bulls got the better end of the calls all series long. Just another case of poor losers.

DR_1
05-10-2012, 10:34 PM
Bulls got the better end of the calls all series long. Just another case of poor losers.

Wow what series were you watching :facepalm:

ManRam
05-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Wow what series were you watching :facepalm:

I don't know what he's been watching, but I'm certain that you've been watching things through a bias lens...like most fans do. Forget the beneficial, remember the detrimental...that's what fans do.

Kyben36
05-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Upset bulls fan, sorry guys, we lost. its over, deal with it. count the fact that boozer went 1-11. that we didnt have rose or Noah, Watson shot 2-11, and how are we suposed to win.

Philly isnt very good though, no chance in the next round IMO, when you can barely win a game where the bulls our out 2 of their top players, and their starting PG and PF go a combined 3-22, for 9 points, and you cant beat us, but just squeeze by,

jammastershake
05-10-2012, 10:36 PM
Wow what series were you watching :facepalm:

The one that just ended with a Sixers win. You mad?

Kyben36
05-10-2012, 10:37 PM
Bulls got the better end of the calls all series long. Just another case of poor losers.

you guys shot more FTs and got away with more handcheck fouls on every possesion than the bulls ever got. dont know what your seeing. but good luck next series, your need it.

ManRam
05-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Upset bulls fan, sorry guys, we lost. its over, deal with it. count the fact that boozer went 1-11. that we didnt have rose or Noah, Watson shot 2-11, and how are we suposed to win.

Philly isnt very good though, no chance in the next round IMO, when you can barely win a game where the bulls our out 2 of their top players, and their starting PG and PF go a combined 3-22, for 9 points, and you cant beat us, but just squeeze by,

Well said.

Even if the refs did rig this (they didn't), and even if they did make a few mistakes (of course they did, they're humans) just look in the mirror. The Bulls blew it :shrug: Key players had awful games, key players made HUGE mistakes, and key players missed wide open shots. Blaming the refs and ONLY the refs, as so many fans do, is just the easy and cowardly way out.

I feel bad for Bulls fans. That's gotta be an awful way to end such a promising season. The worst of luck. Luckily, unlike a lot of teams, the window to win is still wide open. For them, there actually is a next year and it's worth looking forward to.

beasted86
05-10-2012, 10:41 PM
The refs blew a big call at the end of this Hawks/Celtics game too. You just have to live with it.

MagicHero3
05-10-2012, 10:43 PM
hahaha refs just screwed ATL out of the game.

JC_
05-10-2012, 10:44 PM
Boston will probably sweep Philly either way

YoungOne
05-10-2012, 10:47 PM
nothing new

Gram
05-10-2012, 10:49 PM
Knicks Forum

:laugh: Perfect.

LeMarcus
05-10-2012, 10:51 PM
Game 1 W
91-103

Game 2 L
109-92

Game 3 L
74-79

Game 4 L
82-89

Game 5 W
69-77

Game 6 L
78-75

Quit whining. They had plenty of opportunity to win during these games. Sucks it was without rose and partially Noah but get over it.

sixer04fan
05-10-2012, 10:52 PM
Boston will probably sweep Philly either way

We'll see

jp611
05-10-2012, 10:58 PM
84-58 FT discrepancy in games at Philly

jp611
05-10-2012, 10:59 PM
I don't know what he's been watching, but I'm certain that you've been watching things through a bias lens...like most fans do. Forget the beneficial, remember the detrimental...that's what fans do.

84-58 FT discrepancy is pretty ALARMING

sixer04fan
05-10-2012, 10:59 PM
:cry:

justinnum1
05-10-2012, 11:00 PM
i think philly boston goes 6 or 7

justinnum1
05-10-2012, 11:01 PM
84-58 FT discrepancy is pretty ALARMING

Not really, chicago settled for way to many jumpers.

jp611
05-10-2012, 11:08 PM
I'm not blaming officiating though on the Bulls losses... I think they didnt close out in games and without Rose we just don't have that closer so it doesnt surprise me anyway... The officiating was pretty bad though, Philly got a lot of ticky tack calls while the Bulls were getting mugged (See Boozer's non-call, Deng getting flipped over, etc.)... It was pretty lopsided officiating IMO evidenced by the 84-58 FT discrepancy Philly had at home... And overall in the series was even worse... I just am too drunk to do the math

jp611
05-10-2012, 11:09 PM
Not really, chicago settled for way to many jumpers.

Obsession

RealLiveBear
05-10-2012, 11:13 PM
For every bad call they make they make 20 good ones so it's hard to bash them too much. All though some do get a little out there.

tbone2171
05-10-2012, 11:13 PM
If you were watching the Bulls-philly game, you will see some of those calls (taking away the Gibson 3, tons of ticky-tacky fouls) and no-calls (flagrant on Asik, numerous reach-ins) were the worst I have ever freaking seen. My dog could have don better. The NBA needs to launch a full-scale investigation, because the officiating freaking sucks!

Looks like some needs a dipey change

Donuts365
05-10-2012, 11:15 PM
If you were watching the Bulls-philly game, you will see some of those calls (taking away the Gibson 3, tons of ticky-tacky fouls) and no-calls (flagrant on Asik, numerous reach-ins) were the worst I have ever freaking seen. My dog could have don better. The NBA needs to launch a full-scale investigation, because the officiating freaking sucks!

you had no star out there what you expect

Donuts365
05-10-2012, 11:16 PM
i think philly boston goes 6 or 7

you wilding

Donuts365
05-10-2012, 11:17 PM
We'll see

yea we shall see

jp611
05-10-2012, 11:21 PM
you wilding

The Heat always sweep while the teams the Heat are against go 6 or 7... He's a complete and utter homer, don't mind him

Gram
05-10-2012, 11:22 PM
Lol drose.

Sactown
05-10-2012, 11:23 PM
84-58 FT discrepancy is pretty ALARMING

Yet the foul difference was only +7 for the 76ers.. they also turned the ball over less and got out in the break. the big difference is, Phili made their free throws, Chicago did not,

Donuts365
05-10-2012, 11:24 PM
The Heat always sweep while the teams the Heat are against go 6 or 7... He's a complete and utter homer, don't mind him

thanks for the tip

quade36
05-10-2012, 11:25 PM
Quit whining. They had plenty of opportunity to win during these games. Sucks it was without rose and partially Noah but get over it.

Who are you to tell someone else to quit whining? I guarantee if your team lost the players they lost you'd be whining too. Grow up... You should be happy, makes your road to the championship a lot easier.

Anyways, they lost because a guy who shot 81% from the free throw line decided to pass to a guy who shot 48%. Stupid decision, but lets face it. Without Rose, Noah, and Deng playing at less than 50% because of his injury did anyone expect this team to win?

HesterTrain
05-10-2012, 11:28 PM
As a Bulls fan I understand where all the frustration is coming from. Then again what did you expect from this team with the injuries? They still had chances of winning this series, but certain players didn't show up when they were suppose to. Disappointing end to a season for sure. Did the refs blow a lot of calls? Sure, but it happens in almost every series. To the people telling Bulls fans to get over it and shut up etc... I can recall a certain fan base crying like Chris Bosh after the finals last season.... What comes around goes around. Everyone has an irrational outburst about something that everyone else will think is "dumb".

JordansBulls
05-10-2012, 11:40 PM
Omer Asik CHOKED!!!! That was classic

This. The guy blew two games for the Bulls. Game 3 the Bulls were up by 1 and Omer missed both free throws with 2 minutes left as well and now this. Dude needs to go ASAP.

jp611
05-10-2012, 11:51 PM
This. The guy blew two games for the Bulls. Game 3 the Bulls were up by 1 and Omer missed both free throws with 2 minutes left as well and now this. Dude needs to go ASAP.

You're truly a gem :laugh2:

More-Than-Most
05-10-2012, 11:58 PM
Knicks Forum

:laugh:

this made me honestly Lol

Facepalm!
05-11-2012, 12:19 AM
:facepalm:

HesterTrain
05-11-2012, 12:54 AM
This. The guy blew two games for the Bulls. Game 3 the Bulls were up by 1 and Omer missed both free throws with 2 minutes left as well and now this. Dude needs to go ASAP.

CJ shouldn't of passed him the ball in the first place.

2-ONE-5
05-11-2012, 01:11 AM
u mad?

LeMarcus
05-11-2012, 01:17 AM
"Who are you to tell someone else to quit whining? I guarantee if your team lost the players they lost you'd be whining too. Grow up... You should be happy, makes your road to the championship a lot easier."

Who am I? I'm a basketball fan that's tired of other fans complaining about this and that.

And no, I guarantee I won't be whining if my team lost players due to injuries not caused by officials and make a post about NBA officiating blowing lol

Road to the championship a lot easier?
I've always enjoyed the bulls and heat rivalry ;why would I not allow myself to be entertained with that matchup? Oh because I'd def rather watch Philly and the heat.

lol.....

The Jokemaker
05-11-2012, 01:29 AM
This blind tirade from a sad fan may seem like excuses but the man speaks truth. The officiating can be downright dreadful and can decide games in this sport unlike almost any other. All it takes is a few calls to swing momentum and bam, insanity. Poor officiating is one of the many reasons it is hard to even watch these games.

tp13baby
05-11-2012, 01:30 AM
Look at both sides before you talk.

Lakers get superstar treatment at times, Denver has gotten alot of favorable calls. see. your turn.

LeMarcus
05-11-2012, 01:37 AM
This blind tirade from a sad fan may seem like excuses but the man speaks truth. The officiating can be downright dreadful and can decide games in this sport unlike almost any other. All it takes is a few calls to swing momentum and bam, insanity. Poor officiating is one of the many reasons it is hard to even watch these games.

It can swing momentum but what was the deciding factor for the bulls getting eliminated tonight?
Let me take this out further and ask what was the deciding factor for the bulls to lose the entire series?

The Bulls lost their edge when Noah got injured. They were doing fine without rose all season but losing noah was their Achilles heel and not the officiating swinging the momentum to the 6ers winning the series.

D1JM
05-11-2012, 01:47 AM
It can swing momentum but what was the deciding factor for the bulls getting eliminated tonight?
Let me take this out further and ask what was the deciding factor for the bulls to lose the entire series?

The Bulls lost their edge when Noah got injured. They were doing fine without rose all season but losing noah was their Achilles heel and not the officiating swinging the momentum to the 6ers winning the series.

Lol. The bulls lost the series once rose went down. Teams can win season games when you have depth. In playoffs you don't play back to back games across the country. You have time to adjust, etc.

If you are trying to make it seem like the bulls didn't miss rose at all than you are just lying to himself.

TylerSL
05-11-2012, 01:50 AM
Asik missed 2 FT's that could have put the Bulls in great position, Asik clearly fouled Iggy on that last play, and Iggy knocked the shots down. Bottom line, Bulls missed FT's in the clutch, Philly didnt.

LeMarcus
05-11-2012, 01:56 AM
It can swing momentum but what was the deciding factor for the bulls getting eliminated tonight?
Let me take this out further and ask what was the deciding factor for the bulls to lose the entire series?

The Bulls lost their edge when Noah got injured. They were doing fine without rose all season but losing noah was their Achilles heel and not the officiating swinging the momentum to the 6ers winning the series.

Lol. The bulls lost the series once rose went down. Teams can win season games when you have depth. In playoffs you don't play back to back games across the country. You have time to adjust, etc.

If you are trying to make it seem like the bulls didn't miss rose at all than you are just lying to himself.

Who said anything about the bulls not missing rose? He's a huge part of this bulls team.

The bulls still had a good chance of winning without him, they've done it all season because they've had time to adjust that their best player will not be playing.

You're telling me that the chances of the bulls winning didn't significantly decline when Noah got injured?

How do you adjust in the playoffs when you've already played successfully without your best player but lose another one due to an injury?.?

So no, I'm not lying to himself.

PleaseBeNice
05-11-2012, 02:06 AM
:cry:

RC3
05-11-2012, 02:18 AM
I blame the media for overhyping some of these bulls players. These analysts think that Omer asik is sooooooo good and taj Gibson as well.

5ass
05-11-2012, 02:40 AM
I blame the media for overhyping some of these bulls players. These analysts think that Omer asik is sooooooo good and taj Gibson as well.

What are you talking about. Asik and Gibson are very good players. These two together form a great defensive front court.

quade36
05-11-2012, 08:05 AM
"Who are you to tell someone else to quit whining? I guarantee if your team lost the players they lost you'd be whining too. Grow up... You should be happy, makes your road to the championship a lot easier."

Who am I? I'm a basketball fan that's tired of other fans complaining about this and that.

And no, I guarantee I won't be whining if my team lost players due to injuries not caused by officials and make a post about NBA officiating blowing lol

Road to the championship a lot easier?
I've always enjoyed the bulls and heat rivalry ;why would I not allow myself to be entertained with that matchup? Oh because I'd def rather watch Philly and the heat.

lol.....

You must not post on this forum then. Because fans of every team, including your heat whine. You should have seen all the whine last year when Dallas won the championship. It was ridiculous. Moreso than the total amount of Bulls fans whine, easily. Thats all this forum is which is why I don't come on that much anymore. It didn't used to be this way.

Its silly and immature to go the high and mighty route sitting on top of the mountain, especially when your fan base built a 100 barrels of whine last summer.

sixer04fan
05-11-2012, 08:07 AM
I blame the media for overhyping some of these bulls players. These analysts think that Omer asik is sooooooo good and taj Gibson as well.

What are you talking about. Asik and Gibson are very good players. These two together form a great defensive front court.

I think he's talking about how when Rose went down and everyone naively thought the Bulls should still sweep or win in 5, and were still favored to make the ECF. That simply was not the case and everyone misjudged the talent on the Bulls team that was left.

MagicHero3
05-11-2012, 08:56 AM
does no one remember the Tim Donaghy scandal and how he said there were 13 OTHER refs involved? what ever happened to them? nothing. money and power truly corrupts people.

swirl54
05-11-2012, 09:17 AM
Even though it sucks for Bull fans that they had injuries, the Sixers won. Get over it.

This

swirl54
05-11-2012, 09:18 AM
I think he's talking about how when Rose went down and everyone naively thought the Bulls should still sweep or win in 5, and were still favored to make the ECF. That simply was not the case and everyone misjudged the talent on the Bulls team that was left.

They are the best BENCH in the NBA not the best starters. I know this. No Rose No chance at a title then no Noah no chance to get out of first round.

Rivera
05-11-2012, 09:21 AM
Its not the refs fault cj watson didnt dribble the ball out or that omer asik missed 2 free throws :shrug:

whatup
05-11-2012, 09:46 AM
Point of this thread-if your team is still in it then you tell people to get over it and that thier team lost fair and square. If your team isnt in it then the refs suck. My personal opinion is that the nba is faker then wrestling and I would not be surprised to see the heat vs Oklahoma. The series will go 5 games with the heat winning and then thier will be a debate if lebron is going to be better then jordan because he got his first ring this year. Then people will be disscussing if the half a season and no training camps will effect lebrons legacy. In my opinon the refs have determined all of the playoff games and it is obviouios. The boston game at the end of the game teague got fouled when he tried to throw up a three, and also atlanta should have had two free throws when the ball was no where in bounds when the foul occurred. Boston was handed that game. The knicks-heat series just look at game one. Also, look at the numerous plays that were the same but called differently. I can go on about the rest of the playoffs but it wouldnt matter because people are going to argue and disagree because thier teams are still in the playoffs and they are not going to admit the refs are helping their teams out big time.

LGhost
05-11-2012, 09:47 AM
All I know is that the game was neck & neck for the 1st quarter and some with maybe 1 or 2 calls and then all of a sudden on one possession (less than 24 seconds) the 76ers get three whistles and were in the bonus within 2-3 possessions... Each whistle got the crowd louder and louder, motivating Philly to hit some shots and each whistle took our players out of the game mentally... Out of nowhere Philly has this large lead and the Bulls are forced to claw their way back into the game... That's all good as it was the 76ers home court but the issue is our games on our home court where we don't get "momentum changing whistles" or even a blatant 2 man choke a guy in the final minute where we could go to the line and tie the game whistles... The Bulls have to hit big shots to gain momentum the way it is supposed to be. Anyway, I don't blame the refs for losing the series but they sure didn't help none. I love watching the Bulls fight through deficits with their excellent defense as it makes it more satisfying and they have been doing it all season. Last night's game was a win for the Bulls to me no matter what the record says... What Watson did last night in the final minutes didn't make an ounce of sense, I rather watch him choke and miss free throws than to see him just give the 76ers the game.

The Ooh Child
05-11-2012, 10:13 AM
Philly did take Boston 2-1 in the season series. But there's also the whole thing that Paul Pierce alone has more playoff experience than our entire roster combined

Vincent
05-11-2012, 10:20 AM
Refs were fine.

Blame CJ Watson for pretty much playing for the other team the entire series.

Some of the shots and decisions he made were down-right disgusting.

Anyone saying that he "could" start for another team in the league... well, probably haven't seen him play much.


Bottom line is, the Bulls players played bad and lost. 76ers players played bad, but gutted it out.

No excuses.

Abel Ye
05-11-2012, 10:27 AM
Refs were fine.

Blame CJ Watson for pretty much playing for the other team the entire series.

Some of the shots and decisions he made were down-right disgusting.

Anyone saying that he "could" start for another team in the league... well, probably haven't seen him play much.


Bottom line is, the Bulls players played bad and lost. 76ers players played bad, but gutted it out.

No excuses.

Yeah if I was a bulls fan this game would irk the hell out of me. Boozer shooting 1-11 and only losing by 1? ouch better luck next year bull fans. I also wanna note that Deng had 19 with 17 rebounds :speechless:

72 Wins
05-11-2012, 10:33 AM
FCK. I was hoping a Bulls fan didn't start this thread.

LGhost
05-11-2012, 10:34 AM
Bottom line is, the Bulls players played bad and lost. 76ers players played bad, but gutted it out.

No excuses.

Whatever about the refs... But if you seen last night's game, the 76ers didn't gut anything out, the 76ers were playing well shooting 50% and had control of the game with the lead, it was the Bulls that "gutted" it out to win. The Bulls played their game, the same way they been playing all year, there is always a couple players who shoot poorly in each game and last night it was Watson & Boozer, that doesn't mean the Bulls played bad and deserved to lose because of it... The Bulls deserved to win that game but Thibs or whoever wanted to use our last timeout at the most ridiculous time in the game and afterwords, Watson handed the 76ers the win that the Bulls worked very hard to get...

KnickNyKnick
05-11-2012, 10:55 AM
I wasn't just talking about this series in my original post. This is a league-wide issue, and you just flat out stupid if you don't think so.

agreed. but dont worry once the same thing happens to philly next round youll see another thread like this

KnickNyKnick
05-11-2012, 10:58 AM
You must not post on this forum then. Because fans of every team, including your heat whine. You should have seen all the whine last year when Dallas won the championship. It was ridiculous. Moreso than the total amount of Bulls fans whine, easily. Thats all this forum is which is why I don't come on that much anymore. It didn't used to be this way.

Its silly and immature to go the high and mighty route sitting on top of the mountain, especially when your fan base built a 100 barrels of whine last summer.

lol :clap: yes miami built a brewery last year

ElChinoLatino
05-11-2012, 11:32 AM
Hurry somebody call the waaaaambulance.

BHF
05-11-2012, 11:51 AM
with the number 5 pick in the 2012 draft the Chicago Bulls select Anthony Davis ! ! ! ! who knows stern might give them a nice pick again and they will still find something to cry about

LGhost
05-11-2012, 12:02 PM
with the number 5 pick in the 2012 draft the Chicago Bulls select Anthony Davis ! ! ! ! who knows stern might give them a nice pick again and they will still find something to cry about

you should reanalyze that post and use current events to figure out how it makes no sense

HoV305
05-11-2012, 12:07 PM
the officiating sucks all the time....specially if the team your cheering for looses....GET OVER IT ITS BEEN LIKE THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE....

BHF
05-11-2012, 12:12 PM
you should reanalyze that post and use current events to figure out how it makes no sense

2008 draft wait let me remind you again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NBA_Draft

Oldmantrash
05-11-2012, 12:14 PM
NBA officiating is the worst of all the sports, that is nothing new.

But Bulls fans really should never complain.
If your old enough to remember the Jordan days.

The Ref's in the NBA have more judgement, and quick reaction calls than the other sports too.
High speeds, and making sure the stars get the benifit of the doubt come into play.

Plus they might have a bet on the game for big money:p

metsbulls1025
05-11-2012, 12:16 PM
The only thing I was mad about was when Asik was thrown to the ground by his throat and we didn't get a flagrant called.

LGhost
05-11-2012, 12:20 PM
with the number 5 pick in the 2012 draft the Chicago Bulls select Anthony Davis ! ! ! ! who knows stern might give them a nice pick again and they will still find something to cry about

okay I'll break it down for you but only because you asked nicely...

Your post makes no sense because you write it as if we had our 2008 # 1 pick in this series that "we are crying about" - google "Rose Injury" - :p

Also, A. Davis will be a # 1 pick anyway ;) - and Bulls won't be getting the # 5 pick :confused:

king4day
05-11-2012, 12:23 PM
The one thing I'd ask when creating these types of threads would be, make sure you point out the missed or bad calls on the other side of things. It's easy to see them when your team is the one being affected, but everyone (i'm guilty of it myself) turns a blind eye to those which benefit their own team.

BHF
05-11-2012, 12:24 PM
okay I'll break it down for you but only because you asked nicely...

Your post makes no sense because you write it as if we had our 2008 # 1 pick in this series that "we are crying about" - google "Rose Injury" - :p

Also, A. Davis will be a # 1 pick anyway ;) - and Bulls won't be getting the # 5 pick :confused:

well no **** he will be the number 1 pick :facepalm: nvm i don't think you get it

Stinkyoutsider
05-11-2012, 12:37 PM
I give the Sixers credit. They won the series and I don't think it was because of the refs. They were just better than us this time.

Not sure what the NBA can do at this point other than continue training the refs every season? Maybe put more refs on the court? At some point, we'll have to say the better team won...

Once flopping is gone, maybe some of these calls might be easier to make?

2-ONE-5
05-11-2012, 12:39 PM
next time dont pass it to one of the worst FT shooters in the league. LOL Bulls

LGhost
05-11-2012, 12:43 PM
The one thing I'd ask when creating these types of threads would be, make sure you point out the missed or bad calls on the other side of things. It's easy to see them when your team is the one being affected, but everyone (i'm guilty of it myself) turns a blind eye to those which benefit their own team.

Would that really make a difference in the type of responses this thread receives? You might add a couple rational posts but the majority is still going to be immaturity.

The FT discrepancy was already pointed out. The basket Taj made was supposed to be reviewed to see if it was a 3 but instead after a timeout and after the half finished and they came back on, they took the shot away altogether.

This right here can't even be argued about

http://youtu.be/YRrSav66Mlg?t=2m43s

Final play Game 6 - notice CJ gets fouled before crossing half court, notice Asik flagrant

http://youtu.be/_oJwzYMu3ak?t=6m43s

Last half court heave could be debated if there was a foul or whether the refs would call it or not anyway

http://youtu.be/_oJwzYMu3ak?t=9m33s

A video showing the whistles changing momentum could be made but it's probably not worth it


well no **** he will be the number 1 pick :facepalm: nvm i don't think you get it

Dude, don't just give up like that man


next time dont pass it to one of the worst FT shooters in the league. LOL Bulls

Well no derp...

Kashmir13579
05-11-2012, 01:28 PM
I think a lot of people are upset over the refs this year.

FlashMacker
05-11-2012, 02:09 PM
Not really, chicago settled for way to many jumpers.


And Rose was injured too. If he was healthy chicago would've got a lot more free throws.

Blitzbolt
05-11-2012, 02:10 PM
One minute left in games CP3 gets 6 points all of them from the line you can't touch the guy in the end.

LeonFSU
05-11-2012, 02:30 PM
does no one remember the Tim Donaghy scandal and how he said there were 13 OTHER refs involved? what ever happened to them? nothing. money and power truly corrupts people.

:shush: That never happened. Now go to sleep.

xPhillies08WSCx
05-11-2012, 02:37 PM
If you were watching the Bulls-philly game, you will see some of those calls (taking away the Gibson 3, tons of ticky-tacky fouls) and no-calls (flagrant on Asik, numerous reach-ins) were the worst I have ever freaking seen. My dog could have don better. The NBA needs to launch a full-scale investigation, because the officiating freaking sucks!

They took away that Gibson bucket because he didn't get it off. Showed clear evidence on replay.

ChicagoJ
05-11-2012, 02:56 PM
The officiating was very bad at times no question about that. But, it isn't the only reason the bulls lost. You can go through any nba game and point to many, many things that happen during the course of the game that caused a team to loose. I mean, taj got a technical in the last game didn't he? I can't remember if it costed the team 1 pt, but if that's the case it's an overtime game isn't it?

The truth is teams should be able to put themselves in a position where the calls won't change the outcome of the game. It's easy to look at this series, and I can point to at least two terrible calls in the final possessions that may have given the bulls 2 more victories. But, calls usually even themselves out and there were alot more things the bulls didn't do that resulted in them loosing the series.

JWO35
05-11-2012, 03:52 PM
NBA refs always sucked...

Soonerule
05-11-2012, 04:05 PM
Officiating and flopping.... seems to be a pretty common and recurring complaint this post season. I have said that the two are very closely tied together. It's my opinion that flopping has resulted from inconsistencies in the way games are called. Not just from series to series or game to game, but oft times from quarter to quarter and yes even possession to possession. It is also my opinion that the league doesn't just look the other way on this issue, it can't, there is too much technology available exposing the inconsistencies. Heck, most of us can do our own replays on our DVR's. So if the league can't be overlooking it then I am left with only one conclusion, they endorse it and in some cases, might even encourage it.

Case in point. (forgive me if I use my own team in this example, but it is the team I watch the most) KD's rip move. Because of his long arms, the rip move (the one where he gets an opponent to reach out and swings the ball through their arm and takes a shot) became one of his signature moves last season. It was called a shooting foul ALL season long without exception. It was called that way during the Denver series, it was called that way in the Memphis series, it was even called in the first 2 games of the Dallas series. Then came the critical game in the series, game 3 in OKC with the series tied 1-1. KD executed the rip move, just like he had all season, 3 times. One was called a non shooting foul and the other 2 weren't called at all. Whether you agree that the rip move should be a shooting foul or not is beside the point, the league allowed it WAS a shooting foul all season and post season long, until game 3 of the WCF. It definitely effected Durant the rest of the series. Now during the off season the league specifically addressed it and deemed it a non shooting foul which is fine, everyone is on the same page, but for the officials to take it upon themselves to change it in the middle of that series seems odd. One, they had been calling it all year, why would they change? It is in our nature to resist change, we like doing things the same way, less stress. Two, there are more ridiculous things done that ARE called shooting fouls today that don't have a prayer of going in. KD actually got "and ones" on three or four rip move shots last year. Who suddenly decided in mid stream the rip move was not a shooting foul? When an announcer like Van Gundy who never saw a foul in his life calls it a foul, it's a foul. I could be gracious and concede the possibility of error if the refs had missed it one time. But twice? And then a 3rd time? No way, and they don't have the authority much less the inclination to change it? It was a league decision.

Call it sour grapes or whining if you like, that is your choice if you don't want to look at the facts, but facts they are. Ironically, by changing the rule, KD has become a more complete player and even though I was disappointed in losing that series, the sun did indeed come up the next morning. As I said, I used this example because it was something that was quite obvious after watching the same play executed hundreds of times with basically the same result. Yes, the OP is upset his team lost, but that doesn't automatically negate the point.

I'll conclude with this. If the consensus is that the refs are what the refs are and the calls are what the calls are and it should be accepted as just a fact of life, then flopping is also just the way it is and I say live with it. Because you can't fix one without addressing the other. (climbing off soap box now...)

HuRRiCaNeS324
05-11-2012, 04:08 PM
lol second year in a row bulls fans complain about officiating in the playoffs.

Ladies Man
05-11-2012, 04:22 PM
Yea, he probably made this thread out of rage, but hes right though. They make some phantom calls a lot and when they can actually use the technology to check it, they don't. I believe the "super star" fouls must go because people who actually get hacked don't get shyte

LeMarcus
05-11-2012, 04:39 PM
"Who are you to tell someone else to quit whining? I guarantee if your team lost the players they lost you'd be whining too. Grow up... You should be happy, makes your road to the championship a lot easier."

Who am I? I'm a basketball fan that's tired of other fans complaining about this and that.

And no, I guarantee I won't be whining if my team lost players due to injuries not caused by officials and make a post about NBA officiating blowing lol

Road to the championship a lot easier?
I've always enjoyed the bulls and heat rivalry ;why would I not allow myself to be entertained with that matchup? Oh because I'd def rather watch Philly and the heat.

lol.....

You must not post on this forum then. Because fans of every team, including your heat whine. You should have seen all the whine last year when Dallas won the championship. It was ridiculous. Moreso than the total amount of Bulls fans whine, easily. Thats all this forum is which is why I don't come on that much anymore. It didn't used to be this way.

Its silly and immature to go the high and mighty route sitting on top of the mountain, especially when your fan base built a 100 barrels of whine last summer.

Silly and immature?
Who's sitting on the top of the mountain?
Miami heat fans?
Or myself?

As far as I know the heat aren't defending champions and are on the same road they were last year, so what's there to boast about?

What is silly and immature is generalizing fans based on the team they root for. Just cause I'm a Miami heat fan doesn't mean I agree with other Miami fans' attitudes.

What is silly and immature is making a post blaming other factors outside the team like officiating instead of bad luck with injuries or having the game on the line with a 40% free throw shooter.

MrFastBreak
05-11-2012, 07:01 PM
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HrtHustleNMscle
05-12-2012, 02:45 AM
Bulls got the better end of the calls all series long. Just another case of poor losers.

This is just funny, is that why you guys had way more trips to the line?

sixer04fan
05-12-2012, 03:29 AM
Bulls got the better end of the calls all series long. Just another case of poor losers.

This is just funny, is that why you guys had way more trips to the line?

We had more trips to the line because our guards (Jrue, Turner, Lou, Iggy) attacked the rim much more, while your guards (Watson, Rip, Lucas, Deng) never attack the rim and settle for crappy jump shots.

The overall number of foul calls was much more even, which is the true representation for how evenly a game is called, not just foul shots.

Anyone who understands the basic rules of basketball and watched how each team attacked the rim throughout the series would understand this. But again, some people are just sore losers and look for any excuse to complain. They see a discrepancy in free throw attempts and automatically conclude that the league is out to get them, and that's why they lost the series. So sad.

masTOR_shake1
05-12-2012, 04:07 AM
oh, you didn't hear? nba = rigged.

shizzle09
05-12-2012, 06:14 AM
And I thought Knick fans were the crazy ones for saying this along time ago? Yes, it does suck.

The biggest teams that get the most one sided calls are Boston/Miami. Rose goes out and the Bulls start getting screwed by the refs, no secret why.

Ok chief, we have 1 player in the top 10 of free throw attempts per game. ONE. What does this really say? That most of the complaining you hear comes from fans of teams that lost. It's that simple. It's always Miami that gets the calls yet stats show the heat have 2 superstars that average 14 throws per game combined. Miami ranked 8th as a team in free throws per game with teams like Indiana, Utah, Cleveland, OKC & Denver all averaging more Ft attempts per game. Miami has 2 of the most unguardable players in the league and you somehow think they wouldnt manage to "earn" 14 ft attempts per game on average. It's time people wake up and stop making excuses for why their team just got waxed and take the loss like a man(or woman).

shizzle09
05-12-2012, 06:16 AM
We had more trips to the line because our guards (Jrue, Turner, Lou, Iggy) attacked the rim much more, while your guards (Watson, Rip, Lucas, Deng) never attack the rim and settle for crappy jump shots.

The overall number of foul calls was much more even, which is the true representation for how evenly a game is called, not just foul shots.

Anyone who understands the basic rules of basketball and watched how each team attacked the rim throughout the series would understand this. But again, some people are just sore losers and look for any excuse to complain. They see a discrepancy in free throw attempts and automatically conclude that the league is out to get them, and that's why they lost the series. So sad.

welcome to the world of being a heat fan. This is the same **** we say when people complain about the heat. We attack the basket non stop and yet the number of free throws we get says the refs are rigging the game. its hilarious.

PhillyFaninLA
05-12-2012, 06:38 AM
If you were watching the Bulls-philly game, you will see some of those calls (taking away the Gibson 3, tons of ticky-tacky fouls) and no-calls (flagrant on Asik, numerous reach-ins) were the worst I have ever freaking seen. My dog could have don better. The NBA needs to launch a full-scale investigation, because the officiating freaking sucks!

Buy some fresh grapes the one's you are eating are clearly sour.

quade36
05-12-2012, 01:41 PM
Silly and immature?
Who's sitting on the top of the mountain?
Miami heat fans?
Or myself?

As far as I know the heat aren't defending champions and are on the same road they were last year, so what's there to boast about?

What is silly and immature is generalizing fans based on the team they root for. Just cause I'm a Miami heat fan doesn't mean I agree with other Miami fans' attitudes.

What is silly and immature is making a post blaming other factors outside the team like officiating instead of bad luck with injuries or having the game on the line with a 40% free throw shooter.

The ironic part about this quote is you complain about me generalizing but you are doing nothing but generalizing. At what point in any post I made did I blame the refs? In fact I never even mentioned anything about the refs or why I thought the Bulls lost on this thread.

My whole point was everyone fanbase complains. It was a response to you insulting the Bulls fanbase for complaining and that was very immature considering again every fanbase complains.

So, should we continue or just resolve this conflict by saying you assume, generalize and yes have no merit to this argument with me what so ever.

:eyebrow:

quade36
05-12-2012, 01:48 PM
BTW, my opinion. The Bulls didn't lose because of the refs. They didn't even lose because of Omir Asik (who played great in the series) They lost because 1. They went into panic mode when Rose got injured and just didn't run their offense properly 2. Bad coaching decisions on Thibs part (like why wasn't Deng the focal point the entire series and why didn't we see Mike James someone who at least is a veteran who could have slowed down and controlled the offense.) 3. C.J. Watson and John Lucas were just horrible at running the offense. 4. Philly played better than the Bulls. Good luck to them, I think they will give any team they play a tough time.

Vincent33
05-12-2012, 01:51 PM
Marc Davis is a ****ing joke. What a bull **** tech foul on Reggie Evans for his and Blake's high 5. No wonder Rondo bumped his dumb ***.

LeMarcus
05-12-2012, 04:59 PM
Silly and immature?
Who's sitting on the top of the mountain?
Miami heat fans?
Or myself?

As far as I know the heat aren't defending champions and are on the same road they were last year, so what's there to boast about?

What is silly and immature is generalizing fans based on the team they root for. Just cause I'm a Miami heat fan doesn't mean I agree with other Miami fans' attitudes.

What is silly and immature is making a post blaming other factors outside the team like officiating instead of bad luck with injuries or having the game on the line with a 40% free throw shooter.

The ironic part about this quote is you complain about me generalizing but you are doing nothing but generalizing. At what point in any post I made did I blame the refs? In fact I never even mentioned anything about the refs or why I thought the Bulls lost on this thread.

My whole point was everyone fanbase complains. It was a response to you insulting the Bulls fanbase for complaining and that was very immature considering again every fanbase complains.

So, should we continue or just resolve this conflict by saying you assume, generalize and yes have no merit to this argument with me what so ever.

:eyebrow:

lol please find what I wrote insulting the bulls fanbase.

Every comment I made about the bulls was always in reference to the OP.

I understand every fanbase complains that's why I included the part of my awareness of other Miami heat fans complaining.

Like I said, please find any references I made regarding the bulls fanbase and not the OP and this thread that he made.

:o

kylem4711
05-12-2012, 06:03 PM
pretty terrible, see gif

shizzle09
05-12-2012, 10:38 PM
pretty terrible, see gif

lol, that is bad

Game_Over
05-13-2012, 03:57 AM
NBA officiating sucks lol where have you been??

hornetsfansydne
05-13-2012, 04:22 AM
pretty terrible, see gif

How do you know the T was for high five?? Maybe Evans said something or did something down the other end of the court and the ref just waited for the end of the play to T him up?

USMCLaker
05-13-2012, 04:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Longhornfan1234
Denver Nuggets' starters went 44 minutes and 20 seconds without shooting a free throw tonight. Wow. Nuggets shoot the 2nd-most free throws as a team in the NBA. Going almost the whole game without one is pretty amazing. The refs gave the game to the Lakers. It is blatently bad. The refs gave the game to the Lakers. It is blatently bad.


USMCLaker Quote: So what you are saying is that normally there is only one team that the refs help win more than the Nuggets however, tonights game was an anomaly?

numba1CHANGsta
05-13-2012, 06:00 AM
Officiating love the Heat/Thunder
Officiating hates the Lakers/Clippers

I think Stern wants both LA teams to fail so a small market team like the Thunder can go to the Finals. Oh btw, LeBron did NOT deserve the MVP this year, Durant should have won

Reversed86Curse
05-13-2012, 07:42 AM
So what you are saying is that normally there is only one team that the refs help win more than the Nuggets however, tonights game was an anomaly?

No I think what he's saying is that for a team like Denver that goes hard to the hoop and creates fouls to go over 40 minutes without going to the line is blatant BS on the part of the refs. This years officiating is beyond sucking. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the way they call some of the games really makes me question their integrity

USMCLaker
05-13-2012, 07:44 AM
No I think what he's saying is that for a team like Denver that goes hard to the hoop and creates fouls to go over 40 minutes without going to the line is blatant BS on the part of the refs. This years officiating is beyond sucking. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the way they call some of the games really makes me question their integrity

I understood his point but I thought mine's was more entertaining.