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Avenged
05-07-2012, 01:06 AM
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(Spurs Lead 3-0)


Utah Jazz @ San Antonio Spurs
Monday, May 7.
8:00pm ET
National Channel: TNT





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KB-Pau-DH2012
05-07-2012, 01:24 AM
Get the brooms out. This one's going to be quick and painless.

TeamSeattle
05-07-2012, 01:30 AM
Get the brooms out. This one's going to be quick and painless.

I can't stop laughin at this series :laugh:

Jdawg
05-07-2012, 08:23 AM
Spurs need to take care of business so they can get even more rest for Timmy and Manu.

SanAntonioSpurs23
05-07-2012, 09:12 AM
4-0=14 in a row!!! Let's go Spurs, finish them!

TRF929
05-07-2012, 09:27 AM
Spurs are going to sweep everyone, making it 2 times for Lebron teams, in the Finals.

Fat chance, but thatd be interesting

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:23 AM
Jazz will go down swinging. It'd be great to wrap this up and get some rest for what is sure to be a very physical 2nd round.

Baller1
05-07-2012, 01:28 PM
I think the series will end tonight.

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 01:40 PM
I think I read Favors is starting tonight... Corbin trying something new. Certainly can't hurt, he's been terrific.

Joshtd1
05-07-2012, 02:00 PM
Wonder if they are starting that big lineup of if he is benching Al or Milsap for him.

spurs4#5
05-07-2012, 02:20 PM
If Corbin goes with the big lineup I would expect pop to match it with starting splitter instead of Boris

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 02:24 PM
Wonder if they are starting that big lineup of if he is benching Al or Milsap for him.

Big lineup. I don't think it will change what we do, Leonard will have his hands full with Milsap tho.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7900704/utah-jazz-start-game-4-big-lineup-vs-san-antonio-spurs

GrkGawdofWalkz
05-07-2012, 02:28 PM
The bigs: Favors, Milsap and Jefferson: Three through five. What a joke. Corbin honestly has no common sense. Maybe, you allow other players to get a chance in the series. I am just going to laugh it all the way to the bank. Devin Harris, how you have become a scrub inside of 3 years is amazing to me.

spurs4#5
05-07-2012, 02:30 PM
If splitter doesn't start I would expect to see ginobili and splitter off the bench to pick and roll their slow lineup to death

GrkGawdofWalkz
05-07-2012, 02:37 PM
Big lineup. I don't think it will change what we do, Leonard will have his hands full with Milsap tho.

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/7900704/utah-jazz-start-game-4-big-lineup-vs-san-antonio-spurs

Milsap has been awful this entire series. Outside of his defense he's been miserable. I don't see Leonard having that much of a problem. The Jazz will have little to any ball movement. Another double digit loss for the Jazz. They need to trade Milsap or Favors and get a two guard.

GrkGawdofWalkz
05-07-2012, 02:43 PM
If splitter doesn't start I would expect to see ginobili and splitter off the bench to pick and roll their slow lineup to death

I personally want Diaw to start. He creates versatility in sub sets that allows him to mix and match. He's really been impressive. Splitter is the best guy coming off the bench. Blair is worthless on defense.

spurs4#5
05-07-2012, 02:43 PM
When u think of good passing big men...you don't think Jefferson milsap favors

spurs4#5
05-07-2012, 02:51 PM
I personally want Diaw to start. He creates versatility in sub sets that allows him to mix and match. He's really been impressive. Splitter is the best guy coming off the bench. Blair is worthless on defense.

splitter is best when on the floor with ginobili...so yeah splitter off the bench would probably be best...and diaw has been brilliant along with jax...i was saying on a different forum site that i cant image that anything the jazz throw at us still won't result in them losing by double digits

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 03:13 PM
splitter is best when on the floor with ginobili...so yeah splitter off the bench would probably be best...and diaw has been brilliant along with jax...i was saying on a different forum site that i cant image that anything the jazz throw at us still won't result in them losing by double digits

You're on spurstalk too huh?

spurs4#5
05-07-2012, 04:25 PM
You're on spurstalk too huh?

yeah I'd rather post here but there's hardly any people who post on the spurs forum here

GrkGawdofWalkz
05-07-2012, 05:25 PM
yeah I'd rather post here but there's hardly any people who post on the spurs forum here

I'm on there as well. Anyways, should be a fun game.

spurs4#5
05-07-2012, 06:25 PM
I'm on there as well. Anyways, should be a fun game.

but I do have to say the spurs fans who post on here to seem to be a bit more educated....cant believe some people on spurstalk would rather have a different head coach other than pop

Ezio
05-07-2012, 06:57 PM
but I do have to say the spurs fans who post on here to seem to be a bit more educated....cant believe some people on spurstalk would rather have a different head coach other than pop

That's stupid.

Spurs smell blood, series should be done tonight unless the Jazz go off.

spurs4#5
05-07-2012, 07:00 PM
That's stupid.

Spurs smell blood, series should be done tonight unless the Jazz go off.

u bet its stupid...like I said most spurs fans on here seem more knowledgeabl and sane...but yeah it should be done tonight but I expect a fight with the spurs pulling away in the middle of the 3rd and eventually winning big

TeamSeattle
05-07-2012, 08:19 PM
I'm guessing the spurs are already handing it to the Jazz

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 08:20 PM
yeah I'd rather post here but there's hardly any people who post on the spurs forum here

Yea there's not much activity here usually. Unless we're playing LA, or NY or Miami of course

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 08:22 PM
I'm guessing the spurs are already handing it to the Jazz

NOt quite but up early by 4

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 08:23 PM
Timmy's looked great this series

arkanian215
05-07-2012, 08:27 PM
0a

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 08:28 PM
Favors is pretty poor at passing.

Go Favors!!!

Dude's got so much potential

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 08:30 PM
Manu's gotta get it going

arkanian215
05-07-2012, 08:31 PM
0a

arkanian215
05-07-2012, 08:32 PM
0a

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 08:37 PM
Splitter remembered Favors' block from the last game:D

He went up so soft, you'd think he'd learn. He should've pump faked try and get Favors off his feet and draw a foul. Great block tho

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 08:42 PM
That's how you go up Splitter... Take the contact and finish strong

SanAntonioSpurs23
05-07-2012, 08:44 PM
Can't leave Bonner open

Weezy
05-07-2012, 08:51 PM
This spurs team is just so unbelievable to watch....really fun to watch.

Weezy
05-07-2012, 08:56 PM
Lol Duncun playing as if it was 99......gives me bad memories. :laugh2:

IndiansFan337
05-07-2012, 08:57 PM
Duncan looks great early...

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:00 PM
Duncan looks great early...

PLaying 28 mpg and winning so many games not having to play the 4th + Pop resting him is a big reason why. Not to mention keeping himself in good shape

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:04 PM
Tony Parker has 3 points and we're up double figures. He'll need to get it going in the 2nd half but that's definitely encouraging

justinnum1
05-07-2012, 09:05 PM
:sleep:

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:06 PM
Lol Duncun playing as if it was 99......gives me bad memories. :laugh2:

LOL... i wish he was 99 Duncan! I just hope it's the same result as 99 as I'm sure you do which would require something amazing to happen with the Knicks/Heat

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:07 PM
:sleep:

Bored are ya?

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:11 PM
Tim's such a great passer

arkanian215
05-07-2012, 09:16 PM
0a

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:20 PM
This thing is d-u-n-e!!! DUNE!!!

Those guys never disappoint :laugh2:

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:22 PM
Dam Charles too much info

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:33 PM
Hell of a block by Harris. Felt weird typing that

kenzo400
05-07-2012, 09:43 PM
Did Utah really start Milsap, Jefferson and Favors?

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 09:57 PM
Did Utah really start Milsap, Jefferson and Favors?

Sure did

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:02 PM
Spurs are a top offensive team and 4th best defensive team in the playoffs. If we can stay consistent on the defensive end we'll be fine

SanAntonioSpurs23
05-07-2012, 10:04 PM
Matt Bonner has played some of his best basketball of his career in these last few minutes. I've never seen him fight so hard on D and rebounding before!

SanAntonioSpurs23
05-07-2012, 10:05 PM
Tiago Splitter gest no respect, its kinda funny but sad at the same time.

SanAntonioSpurs23
05-07-2012, 10:06 PM
Typical Manu, hasn't hit a three all series and has been under achieving but still he comes up huge when it matters most.

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:10 PM
Tiago Splitter gest no respect, its kinda funny but sad at the same time.

Absolutely zero respect. It's all good... He's getting his

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:10 PM
Matt Bonner has played some of his best basketball of his career in these last few minutes. I've never seen him fight so hard on D and rebounding before!

He's been one of our post defenders this season. Greatly improved

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:13 PM
defense & benched : locked in tonight :smoking:

IndiansFan337
05-07-2012, 10:14 PM
PLaying 28 mpg and winning so many games not having to play the 4th + Pop resting him is a big reason why. Not to mention keeping himself in good shape

This is very true. I would love to see a 6-7 game series where he had to match up against Bynum/Gasol for 40 mpg at this point in his career. It would give us a real idea of where he is at versus how much Popovich has been protecting/limiting him.

Jarvo
05-07-2012, 10:30 PM
Thats how you handle bizzzznaaazzzz Spurs !

Giraffes Rule
05-07-2012, 10:33 PM
Spurs are playing like they already won this game. They've played really poorly the last 5 minutes or so. Maybe the worst they've played this season.

Blitzbolt
05-07-2012, 10:35 PM
Don't you guys ever get tired of that Girly face duncan does after every foul.??

Its so annoying he is to old for that.

Giraffes Rule
05-07-2012, 10:37 PM
The post game interview with coach Pop may feature the most unhappy head coach of a playoff series winning team in the history of the NBA.

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:39 PM
Don't you guys ever get tired of that Girly face duncan does after every foul.??

Its so annoying he is to old for that.

Not really. btw didn't you say Utah would take us to 7?

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:40 PM
The post game interview with coach Pop may feature the most unhappy head coach of a playoff series winning team in the history of the NBA.

Yep. Jazz picked it up big time and our starters were cold. Bad combination

kdspurman
05-07-2012, 10:42 PM
Good game Jazz fans. Way to fight in the 4th

J4KOP99
05-07-2012, 10:42 PM
Called the sweep before the series. Spurs are for real and will be a very tough out.

UJ47
05-07-2012, 10:54 PM
eat it spur fans, would i have liked won, most definitely yes, would i have liked to win the series, yes, but it friggin bugged the crap out of me when you guys were saying "oh, looks like it will be another double digit win", such cocky fans, it makes me sick, you go from thinking you'll get the win easy, to probably a little nervous there at the end. goes to show, no matter how much you guys have destroyed us we will never give up, remember that when duncan retires, and ginobli has a career ending injury, when the jazz will be hitting their stride, with favors and hayward (had a bad series, but don't worry he will learn and comeback even better next year) leading away, you guys will still have a decent team but not enough to stop the jazz, if favors played more and had some help on the defensive end parkers stupid drives to the hoop would be shutdown. the only game you really had in your pocket was the 2nd but even that got down to five early on. so don't be surprised when 2 years down the road the jazz will be ahead of you guys(i say that because i have learned you really can never count out the spurs). good luck in the next round, but sorry i hope you lose.

meloman1592
05-07-2012, 11:01 PM
eat it spur fans, would i have liked won, most definitely yes, would i have liked to win the series, yes, but it friggin bugged the crap out of me when you guys were saying "oh, looks like it will be another double digit win", such cocky fans, it makes me sick, you go from thinking you'll get the win easy, to probably a little nervous there at the end. goes to show, no matter how much you guys have destroyed us we will never give up, remember that when duncan retires, and ginobli has a career ending injury, when the jazz will be hitting their stride, with favors and hayward (had a bad series, but don't worry he will learn and comeback even better next year) leading away, you guys will still have a decent team but not enough to stop the jazz, if favors played more and had some help on the defensive end parkers stupid drives to the hoop would be shutdown. the only game you really had in your pocket was the 2nd but even that got down to five early on. so don't be surprised when 2 years down the road the jazz will be ahead of you guys(i say that because i have learned you really can never count out the spurs). good luck in the next round, but sorry i hope you lose.

Damn someones mad

Joshtd1
05-07-2012, 11:10 PM
Spurs made that 4th quarter way to close to comfort. Props to Jazz for not giving up and quitting and making a game out of it. I honestly don't think that big lineup of theirs does wonders though, it just means limited spacing and puts Milsap on the perimeter instead of downlow. I think they need to either have him come off the bench in the future or trade him for a quality SF.

Giraffes Rule
05-07-2012, 11:22 PM
Damn someones mad

Real mad, and I'm tryin to find these cocky fans he's talking about but I don't see it. Can someone point me to that?

Lo Porto
05-07-2012, 11:24 PM
If the refs would have called it 50-50 the entire game, this series would be going back to San Antonio. Utah had to play unreal ball over two stretches and had to play against the refs to make it close twice. But they still barely lost. I guess all they need are a couple flop artists and an NBA agenda and they could make up that 6 points next time.

San Antonio was the better team, but they had the benefit of the calls all 4 games. Utah never had a chance....

Giraffes Rule
05-07-2012, 11:34 PM
If the refs would have called it 50-50 the entire game, this series would be going back to San Antonio. Utah had to play unreal ball over two stretches and had to play against the refs to make it close twice. But they still barely lost. I guess all they need are a couple flop artists and an NBA agenda and they could make up that 6 points next time.

San Antonio was the better team, but they had the benefit of the calls all 4 games. Utah never had a chance....

Utah only got called for 2 more fouls in the entire series than the Spurs. 23 a piece tonight, then 2 more fouls on the Spurs for both of the last 2 games then a 6 foul advantage for the Spurs in game one. This was actually a pretty evenly officiated series.

Bunch of sour grapes up in here.

Joshtd1
05-08-2012, 12:04 AM
Yes..officiating was the reason the Jazz got swept, not because they don't have as good of coach or players or played as good :rolleyes:

Fwiw Jazz shot 17 more FT's for the series, so again the Jazz got more of the benefit. Stop blaming the officials

Lo Porto
05-08-2012, 12:11 AM
Utah only got called for 2 more fouls in the entire series than the Spurs. 23 a piece tonight, then 2 more fouls on the Spurs for both of the last 2 games then a 6 foul advantage for the Spurs in game one. This was actually a pretty evenly officiated series.

Bunch of sour grapes up in here.

This is the dumbest post I've read in a while. Anybody knows that the NBA refs will make a ton of make up calls down the stretch of a game to even out the box scores. Utah got so many calls in the last 6 minutes of the first 3 games to make up for all the calls San Antonio got when the score was closer in the middle of the game.

Considering how many uncontested shots San Antonio had, how would they have as many FT's or fouls against? Utah doesn't have any shooters so they took it to the hole or posted up the entire series. Duncan and Diaw had 0 fouls game 1. What a joke especially considering how physical he was allowed to play Big Al and Big Al wasn't allowed to play him. Duncan was only called for 1 foul in Game 2. The big men for Utah couldn't touch the Spurs big men the same way the Spurs big men defended the Jazz.

The Spurs got to play in 4 home games. Must be nice. They were a better team. They didn't deserve the whistles too. It would just be nice to see an NBA series where star power and bias isn't so obvious.

Giraffes Rule
05-08-2012, 12:19 AM
I assume when the sting of your team getting swept wears off you'll be able to see that your argument is ridiculous.

Lo Porto
05-08-2012, 12:25 AM
I knew Utah would lose the series, but I just thought the refs would call it 50-50 at least one game. I guess Utah just needs 2 guys who fall down all the time with the slightest of contact and a big man who stares down the ref after every call that goes against his team. Then Utah will get the lion's share of the calls too.

Joshtd1
05-08-2012, 12:29 AM
I knew Utah would lose the series, but I just thought the refs would call it 50-50 at least one game. I guess Utah just needs 2 guys who fall down all the time with the slightest of contact and a big man who stares down the ref after every call that goes against his team. Then Utah will get the lion's share of the calls too.

Utah SHOT 17 MORE FT's FOR THE SERIES. / argument

Please stop trying to make excuses for the refs when your own team shot more free throws for the series, specially when the Spurs lived in the paint. If anything as a Spurs fan I should be complaining about the refs not giving us enough calls as physical as the Jazz are.

Lo Porto
05-08-2012, 12:37 AM
You can't simply look at the total numbers. Are you a fan of basketball or just look at boxscores? If you watched the games, a vast majority of 50-50 calls went San Antonio's way without a doubt. This isn't sour grapes. It's exactly what happened.

SA got open looks and easy shots because they have great offense, great players and everything was clicking (I won't address moving screens). That doesn't lead to FT attempts.

Utah doesn't have shooters to spread the floor or a true facilitating PG but they posted up, slashed and cut all series. The fact that they only shot 17 more FT's is actually surprising. Utah didn't settle for outside shots in this series. They took it to the rack and the refs rarely paid them off for it especially in Games 1 and 4. Favors got killed all night and didn't have a FT attempt until mid4th.

So get to know basketball. It's not all total numbers. It's about style. And any neutral fan watching the series could see that Utah couldn't buy a 50-50 call unless the game was already decided late in the 4th Games 1, 2 and 3.

And the Spurs don't live in the paint. They live with the ball in Parker or Manu's hands and they only use Tim as a quick post up and pass. SA rarely dumps into the post anymore for Tim or Splitter to truly go to work. Do you even know your own team? They post to pass and cut off of it.

Joshtd1
05-08-2012, 12:47 AM
If the reffing was so biased the way you make it sound then the Spurs would have had a huge disparity in free throws attempted in fouls called, yet the Jazz still shot more. Spurs were the #1 team in the NBA in least fouls called against them so it surprises me the Jazz even shot more. As much as the Spurs were in the paint they should have shot more specially with the physicality of the Jazz.

Guess we have to agree to disagree.

Lo Porto
05-08-2012, 12:47 AM
What sent me over the edge was the Manu flop that started their run in the 3rd. He simply flopped at the FT line when Utah had the ball down by only 4. Millsap barely touched him setting up a screen and he pulled the classic SA flop. The next possession, he hit a 3 and SA started their run.

In the entire series, I didn't see a Utah flop as bad as Manu's at that time and especially at a time that meant so much for the home team. It killed the run for Utah and SA turned it into their own momentum.

And my entire point is that Utah never in a million years gets that call in this series. And little plays like that leads to 6 point wins for star studded teams like the Spurs over no-named teams like Utah even at Utah.

Congrats to your team, but a fair fight would have been nice. NBA needs to work on that.

spurs4#5
05-08-2012, 12:53 AM
What sent me over the edge was the Manu flop that started their run in the 3rd. He simply flopped at the FT line when Utah had the ball down by only 4. Millsap barely touched him setting up a screen and he pulled the classic SA flop. The next possession, he hit a 3 and SA started their run.

In the entire series, I didn't see a Utah flop as bad as Manu's at that time and especially at a time that meant so much for the home team. It killed the run for Utah and SA turned it into their own momentum.

And my entire point is that Utah never in a million years gets that call in this series. And little plays like that leads to 6 point wins for star studded teams like the Spurs over no-named teams like Utah even at Utah.

Congrats to your team, but a fair fight would have been nice. NBA needs to work on that.
Fact: nba refs are horrible. Fact: y'all shot more free throws even throw we were way more aggressive. Fact: none of this matters cuz we would've beat Utah even in your scenario of straight down the middle calling.

Patman
05-08-2012, 03:25 AM
Lo Porto give it a rest. In Game 3 the Jazz got Calls early, they just couldn't hit Freethrows. The NBA or the Refs can't shoot it for the Jazz. The Jazz were just outmatched, on the floor and on the bench. Look the Jazz got valuable experience and showed fight in the last game, if they get Perimeter help they have a bright future ahead of them.

Jdawg
05-08-2012, 05:59 AM
And little plays like that leads to 6 point wins for star studded teams like the Spurs over no-named teams like Utah even at Utah.



I agree with you that the NBA refs suck terribly. But the last time I checked the Spurs are a small market team too. We often feel this way when we go against bigger market team but still have found a way to fight through it. Your own team didn't say a word all series about the refs. Come on man.

kdspurman
05-08-2012, 09:07 AM
Man I can't believe people are blaming the officials. :facepalm: Ridiculous. Like we are such a flashy and exciting team that the league says "those guys NEED to win this series for higher ratings".

Why not look at your team as the reason they lost, or the coach, or the fact that the Spurs are a MUCH better team and playing for something bigger than "just happy to be in the playoffs"

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:01 PM
Milsap has been awful this entire series. Outside of his defense he's been miserable. I don't see Leonard having that much of a problem. The Jazz will have little to any ball movement. Another double digit loss for the Jazz. They need to trade Milsap or Favors and get a two guard.

you asked for cocky fans, here is one, "another double digit loss for the jazz."

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:02 PM
splitter is best when on the floor with ginobili...so yeah splitter off the bench would probably be best...and diaw has been brilliant along with jax...i was saying on a different forum site that i cant image that anything the jazz throw at us still won't result in them losing by double digits

here is another "i was saying on a different forum site that i cant image that anything the jazz throw at us still won't result in them losing by double digits"

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:04 PM
u bet its stupid...like I said most spurs fans on here seem more knowledgeabl and sane...but yeah it should be done tonight but I expect a fight with the spurs pulling away in the middle of the 3rd and eventually winning big

here is another, he gave us some credit but, "with the spurs pulling away in the middle of the 3rd and eventually winning big"

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:12 PM
you guys gave us some respect, so maybe cocky isn't the word, but it really p-oed me off when a few of your fans were basically saying welp we got this win in the bag and we are going to get another double digit win game.

yes, i was and still am a bit mad, but that is not the reason i posted, i posted it because i was mad that you those two fans wern't giving any respect for the jazz, and the jazz showed why you must respect them, even your team the spurs and their players thought the same thing. in the coming years we will be good, so watch out.

like i said before, good luck, but go grizzlies or clippers. if not them go lakers(eek and i hate the lakers bad), nuggets(i hate them too), or thunder. if it is you guys and miami, i have no idea who i would pick.

Bring The Heat
05-08-2012, 12:13 PM
Utah has a great young nucleus and a bright future moving forward. The fact they made it to the playoffs is impressive and I'm sure they will be moving up in the West in the near future.

With that being said, The Spurs are just a way better team at the moment. Tony Parker is playing at a high level and they are obviously the more experienced team full of veterans. Utah didn't back down but San Antonio is just too much for them at this time. It was good for Utah to get their butts kicked and get a learning experience from this moving forward.

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:28 PM
i wouldn't say the reason why we lost was because of officiating but its kinda of hard to win when 75% of the time it is 8 vs. 5. you can give all the stats you want that the jazz shot more fts, but if you actually watched the game, i could say at least 10 times through out the series, milsap, or burks, or somebody trys to drive and gets compelty hacked and nothing gets called, you guys get the rebound and run up for an easy lay up, how is that not cheap. its true we should have made our ft's when we got them, but we should have had more ft attempts than that, and there were alot of bs calls where we barely touch your players and get called for the foul, and we go on the other end and get hammered a nothing gets called. and i hate the antics Tim Duncan calls, i see him travel, but rarely if ever it gets called, and when it does get called he sits there and stares the ref down, acting like the ref did something wrong. but on the other end our guys pull the same move and we get called for it, and you see Duncan standing there doing the officiating for the ref spinning his fingers around, just leave the ref alone and let him do his job. Tim Duncan is such a hypocrite in that manner, where he gets a call against him even though he did it and gets mad, he expects the ref to call nothing, where on the other end he expects the ref to call it every time and gets mad if they call nothing, he can't have it both ways, either they call it on both ends, or not on either end.

i will concede though, that san antonio was just the better team, and that the jazz without the help of the officials did plenty wrong themselves which costed them the games, all well, there is always next year, we will learn, and grow, and become better.

heres to hope you get your guys butts kicked

kdspurman
05-08-2012, 12:32 PM
you guys gave us some respect, so maybe cocky isn't the word, but it really p-oed me off when a few of your fans were basically saying welp we got this win in the bag and we are going to get another double digit win game.

yes, i was and still am a bit mad, but that is not the reason i posted, i posted it because i was mad that you those two fans wern't giving any respect for the jazz, and the jazz showed why you must respect them, even your team the spurs and their players thought the same thing. in the coming years we will be good, so watch out.

like i said before, good luck, but go grizzlies or clippers. if not them go lakers(eek and i hate the lakers bad), nuggets(i hate them too), or thunder. if it is you guys and miami, i have no idea who i would pick.

Sometimes, it's about matchups, adjustments, and execution. Spurs fans felt pretty confident after game 3 and rightfully so. I thought Utah would win either game 3 or 4 because Utah is a tough place to play. I said in the beginning of this thread this game would be tough as hell.

And the Spurs did pull away in the 2nd half as predicted by some, but Utah came back. I don't think there's one person on here who said Utah doesn't have a bright future, or should feel down about themselves. I think you're getting a little too sensitive for nothing.

San Antonio is playing for a championship. Utah was happy to get in the playoffs. 2 different mindsets. That said, Utah is a few pieces away from being a very formidable team out West.

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:37 PM
Sometimes, it's about matchups, adjustments, and execution. Spurs fans felt pretty confident after game 3 and rightfully so. I thought Utah would win either game 3 or 4 because Utah is a tough place to play. I said in the beginning of this thread this game would be tough as hell.

And the Spurs did pull away in the 2nd half as predicted by some, but Utah came back. I don't think there's one person on here who said Utah doesn't have a bright future, or should feel down about themselves. I think you're getting a little too sensitive for nothing.

San Antonio is playing for a championship. Utah was happy to get in the playoffs. 2 different mindsets. That said, Utah is a few pieces away from being a very formidable team out West.

I see where your coming from where you look at the facts and that they beat us by double digits in the previous games, i read that you guys think we have a bright future, and thanks for saying that, but those two fans, who thought for sure that they were going to win by double digits once again, just made me so mad, because i knew it would not be the case, and guess what it wasn't. that is all what i was trying to say.

kdspurman
05-08-2012, 12:37 PM
i wouldn't say the reason why we lost was because of officiating but its kinda of hard to win when 75% of the time it is 8 vs. 5. you can give all the stats you want that the jazz shot more fts, but if you actually watched the game, i could say at least 10 times through out the series, milsap, or burks, or somebody trys to drive and gets compelty hacked and nothing gets called, you guys get the rebound and run up for an easy lay up, how is that not cheap. its true we should have made our ft's when we got them, but we should have had more ft attempts than that, and there were alot of bs calls where we barely touch your players and get called for the foul, and we go on the other end and get hammered a nothing gets called. and i hate the antics Tim Duncan calls, i see him travel, but rarely if ever it gets called, and when it does get called he sits there and stares the ref down, acting like the ref did something wrong. but on the other end our guys pull the same move and we get called for it, and you see Duncan standing there doing the officiating for the ref spinning his fingers around, just leave the ref alone and let him do his job. Tim Duncan is such a hypocrite in that manner, where he gets a call against him even though he did it and gets mad, he expects the ref to call nothing, where on the other end he expects the ref to call it every time and gets mad if they call nothing, he can't have it both ways, either they call it on both ends, or not on either end.

i will concede though, that san antonio was just the better team, and that the jazz without the help of the officials did plenty wrong themselves which costed them the games, all well, there is always next year, we will learn, and grow, and become better.

heres to hope you get your guys butts kicked

Just give it up. Your not conceding anything when your still making excuses. How many times did Tony Parker drive and get hit and nothing was called? How many over the back fouls do Milsap & Carroll have in a game? See how that works? Bad calls go both ways man.

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:40 PM
i was just basically saying with that said, you guys were just the better team, and the jazz made a ton of mistakes, after that i was not making anymore excuses.

UJ47
05-08-2012, 12:42 PM
i'm ending this discussion now, have a good day, and why don't you just give it up man. if you didn't keep egging me on, i would have not said anything further

UJ47
05-08-2012, 01:15 PM
one more thing, do i believe that officiating was A(notice the caps) factor, IMO it was, IMO was it THE(notice the caps) deciding factor, no i don't. After all is said and done, the spurs played harder, executed, defended, and shot better then jazz. and the jazz as a young inexperienced team made a lot of mistakes that ultimately costed us games, and the series. did i think the jazz would win the series, no, did i think they should have won a game, yes i do. but it is done, it is what it is, and i will leave it at that.

UJ47
05-08-2012, 01:19 PM
"and i hate the antics Tim Duncan calls, i see him travel, but rarely if ever it gets called, and when it does get called he sits there and stares the ref down, acting like the ref did something wrong. but on the other end our guys pull the same move and we get called for it, and you see Duncan standing there doing the officiating for the ref spinning his fingers around, just leave the ref alone and let him do his job. Tim Duncan is such a hypocrite in that manner, where he gets a call against him even though he did it and gets mad, he expects the ref to call nothing, where on the other end he expects the ref to call it every time and gets mad if they call nothing, he can't have it both ways, either they call it on both ends, or not on either end."


and what have you say there, what argument do you have there, do you think that is fair, do you think that is right, you cannot defend it because you know it is true.

futureman
05-08-2012, 01:57 PM
Spurs will go all the way this year.

kdspurman
05-08-2012, 02:32 PM
"and i hate the antics Tim Duncan calls, i see him travel, but rarely if ever it gets called, and when it does get called he sits there and stares the ref down, acting like the ref did something wrong. but on the other end our guys pull the same move and we get called for it, and you see Duncan standing there doing the officiating for the ref spinning his fingers around, just leave the ref alone and let him do his job. Tim Duncan is such a hypocrite in that manner, where he gets a call against him even though he did it and gets mad, he expects the ref to call nothing, where on the other end he expects the ref to call it every time and gets mad if they call nothing, he can't have it both ways, either they call it on both ends, or not on either end."


and what have you say there, what argument do you have there, do you think that is fair, do you think that is right, you cannot defend it because you know it is true.

lol... I know Tim never committed a foul in his career I get that. But never gets called for a travel? He's old and slow enough to the point that a ref has a ton of time to see him take 3 steps. Something tells me you need to review what a travel really is, go back and watch video of Timmy, and report your findings. Just a suggestion

UJ47
05-08-2012, 03:45 PM
it was more or less an example, but to say that tim duncan never travels proves you don't know what you are talking about(though he does it alot less then say someone handling the ball more then he does).

kdspurman
05-08-2012, 08:18 PM
it was more or less an example, but to say that tim duncan never travels proves you don't know what you are talking about(though he does it alot less then say someone handling the ball more then he does).

Show me where I said he never travels... You made it seem like he always does and gets away with it.

Clearly you're bitter about the series and trying to find things to make yourself feel better like the refs screwed Utah out of a win or 2. Whatever makes you feel better bro... I'm done arguing with you

UJ47
05-09-2012, 12:17 AM
dude your a joke, okay so he never gets called for a travel this series excpet MAYBE once, when he clearly did a few times, and so if he is so old and slow how could they not see it.

and besides the point, i'm not bitter they lost, i knew they would lose this series, i am fine that they lost, i would have liked them to win, but it was not vitally important to their future success to do so. you think i need to do this to feel better, well then, go jump off a cliff(please don't though really you probably a really cool guy that likes the spurs). because i don't, and the reason i do do this is for fun.

i don't think if the officiating had been different that it would have changed the outcome much, maybe one game, the fact is you guys just outplayed us.

so stop thinking i'm just an angry fan that is venting, and that all i ever do is just blame it on the referees.

Patman
05-09-2012, 03:35 AM
dude your a joke, okay so he never gets called for a travel this series excpet MAYBE once, when he clearly did a few times, and so if he is so old and slow how could they not see it.

and besides the point, i'm not bitter they lost, i knew they would lose this series, i am fine that they lost, i would have liked them to win, but it was not vitally important to their future success to do so. you think i need to do this to feel better, well then, go jump off a cliff(please don't though really you probably a really cool guy that likes the spurs). because i don't, and the reason i do do this is for fun.

i don't think if the officiating had been different that it would have changed the outcome much, maybe one game, the fact is you guys just outplayed us.

so stop thinking i'm just an angry fan that is venting, and that all i ever do is just blame it on the referees.


Sorry your posts are exactly that of a venting Fan that has to get on the opposing team players and the Refs. Look the Spurs fans conducted them pretty good here, other fans would have talked smack way more after 3 double digit wins.


Let's just say that the Jazz were outmatched and everyone should give them respect that they kept fighting with 20 down in game 4. They are a couple of 3 Point shooters away of being a very dangerous Team.

JayW_1023
05-09-2012, 03:37 AM
Better team won. End of discussion. Are we done here?

Can't wait for the next series. Hope the Clips and Grizz beat on each other some more. Either team is gonna be a much tougher challenge.

But fortunately we have BONNER! and the rest of the bench, which will be the key for The Spurs to be successful. Of all the stars, only TP can play heavy minutes.

Patman
05-09-2012, 03:43 AM
Better team won. End of discussion. Are we done here?

Can't wait for the next series. Hope the Clips and Grizz beat on each other some more. Either team is gonna be a much tougher challenge.

But fortunately we have BONNER! and the rest of the bench, which will be the key for The Spurs to be successful. Of all the stars, only TP can play heavy minutes.

Yeah beware the Red Rocket :)

But honestly I'm pretty impressed with his effort on the defensive end, he does a good job of fighting for position and did a decent job on Millsap.

kdspurman
05-09-2012, 10:26 AM
Sorry your posts are exactly that of a venting Fan that has to get on the opposing team players and the Refs. Look the Spurs fans conducted them pretty good here, other fans would have talked smack way more after 3 double digit wins.


Let's just say that the Jazz were outmatched and everyone should give them respect that they kept fighting with 20 down in game 4. They are a couple of 3 Point shooters away of being a very dangerous Team.

:cheers: Props man... I said exactly what you did in terms of Utah being a few pieces away from being very formidable and the fact that these 2 teams are playing for something different at this point in their respective careers.

I never doubted Utah's ability for one second, and knew they'd fight their hardest.