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Dundalis
05-02-2012, 08:08 AM
The number 2 v the number 4 ranked prospects by Baseball America coming into the season. Who's gonna be the better pitcher?

todu82
05-02-2012, 08:28 AM
Yu Darvish.

OptiMized
05-02-2012, 08:30 AM
Jays fan here,

Having saw Yu on Monday, i have to say he was quite impressive. He had so much break on his pitches. I think all his K's were from Jays swinging outside the zone.

I haven't seen much of Matt Moore, so this might be a bit unfair, but i chose Yu Darvish.

Joe33
05-02-2012, 08:41 AM
Tough call after 4/5 starts.

For me, Darvish is the better pitcher right now and I'd take him long term just with the track record in Japan, how good he looked in the WBC and what he's shown at the big league level. I prefer his repertoire and he's already a lot more polished, as he should be being 25.

People were getting ahead of themselves coming into the season comparing the Rays rotation to the Phillies and Angels, many considering Moore to be an ace. He has excellent potential, but until the guy actually throws 200 innings to big league hitters there's more we don't know than do.

Capital G
05-02-2012, 08:50 AM
this year i think Yu. in their long term careers? moore.

ahoda
05-02-2012, 08:51 AM
I'll take the lefty 10 times out of 10.

Joe33
05-02-2012, 09:19 AM
I'll take the lefty 10 times out of 10.

So who's better, Roy Halladay or Tom Gorzelanny?

Pinstripe pride
05-02-2012, 09:26 AM
matt moore. they are about equal at this point, but matt moore is lefty and younger

ahoda
05-02-2012, 09:42 AM
So who's better, Roy Halladay or Tom Gorzelanny?

I know I'm not great at reading and comprehension, but I think Darvish and Moore were the only options in the poll........

Giannis94
05-02-2012, 10:25 AM
They are both pitching to good. Its very obvious that both are on Roids. all though we don't know the true story I say so so everyone else will spread it now.

C-ross12
05-02-2012, 10:28 AM
I know I'm not great at reading and comprehension, but I think Darvish and Moore were the only options in the poll........

:laugh2:

Ian.
05-02-2012, 11:06 AM
I think Moore has a much better ceiling. Being left handed only helps matters

carljam1
05-02-2012, 09:42 PM
I think Moore has a much better ceiling. Being left handed only helps masters

Agreed. They both have very good stuff, so the lefty has the edge to make a bigger difference.

bomber0104
05-02-2012, 09:49 PM
haven't seen Moore pitch yet this year and he is struggling..

Darvish was ridiculous against the Jays.. got strike 1 on the hitter every single AB and the hitters were lost after that with all the different pitches he has (all of them quality)

ShinobiNYC
05-02-2012, 10:43 PM
Moore has better raw stuff, Yu is more polished and has better baseball brains. I think Darvish would have a longer career(health helping of course) but that doesn't mean he is better. We had this debate with Liriano and Wainwright back in 2006.

nithanyo
05-02-2012, 10:49 PM
Yu is better by a mile

es0terik
05-02-2012, 11:32 PM
Yu is better by a mile

Oh he's better by a mile?

VenezuelanMet
05-02-2012, 11:35 PM
Eh, I go the Keith Law route here, I really think it's stupid to consider Darvish a "prospect" unfair comparison, imo.

Darvish is what we saw against Yankees and Jays, he has like a million seasons of +200IP under his belt, nevermind that it was in AAAA. We don't know how Moore will fare against complete big league seasons as we don't know it with any prospect.

Btw, seeing the posts on this thread, I'd hesitate saying anyone right now has better stuff than Darvish (the exception being Strasburg, ofc)

Toxeryll
05-03-2012, 01:25 AM
darvish right now but in 3 years, moore

ahoda
05-03-2012, 07:30 AM
Eh, I go the Keith Law route here, I really think it's stupid to consider Darvish a "prospect" unfair comparison, imo.

Darvish is what we saw against Yankees and Jays, he has like a million seasons of +200IP under his belt, nevermind that it was in AAAA. We don't know how Moore will fare against complete big league seasons as we don't know it with any prospect.

Btw, seeing the posts on this thread, I'd hesitate saying anyone right now has better stuff than Darvish (the exception being Strasburg, ofc)



Well, other then that Verlander guy, Kershaw guy, Hernandez guy, etc.

VenezuelanMet
05-03-2012, 01:57 PM
I do think he has better stuff than them. That doesn't make him a better pitcher than them, however.

shizzle09
05-07-2012, 02:21 AM
Moore isnt fooling anyone.

Dundalis
05-08-2012, 06:12 AM
For a 22 year old in his first full season, getting hit around isn't really all that serious a setback. Plenty of MLB Cy Young winners had it happen to them early in their careers.