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R0W
04-28-2012, 07:13 PM
Moving screen and i think he swung his shoulder into lebron but still its the playoffs that shouldn't be flagrant. Obvious Flop @ the end of the play too lol.
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2012/04/28/0041100111_nyk_mia_play5.nba/?ls=iref:nbahpt2

shep33
04-28-2012, 07:15 PM
Not even close in my opinion. Not a fan of either team, and LBJ is the MVP this year no doubt, but from a perspective of a basketball fan, there is no way that's a flagrant.

In fact, LBJ should be mad at his teammates for not calling that pick. It was an illegal screen, no doubt about that. But someone still should've called it in my opinion.

KB-Pau-DH2012
04-28-2012, 07:16 PM
In the words of Kobe:

GET OVER IT.

Move on man, there's bigger issues than a call/mis-call. Freakin D-Rose is out for the playoffs. :(

spurs4#5
04-28-2012, 07:16 PM
no it wasnt a flagrant...but whats done is done...lebron will get his hand held to the nba finals

JC_
04-28-2012, 07:18 PM
Moving screen and i think he swung his shoulder into lebron but still its the playoffs that shouldn't be flagrant. Obvious Flop @ the end of the play too lol.
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2012/04/28/0041100111_nyk_mia_play5.nba/?ls=iref:nbahpt2

It shouldn't have been a flagrant, I think everyone agrees but Lebron didn't flop, you can tell it stung if you actually watch him.

R0W
04-28-2012, 07:18 PM
im not saying it costed them the game but calls like this w/o review get me mad.

Lidz
04-28-2012, 07:19 PM
Of course LBJ flopped, but I think the refs called it what it was because Chandler did that EXACT same thing a couple plays before and was called for an offensive foul. They probably got fed up with it.

LAKobeBryant
04-28-2012, 07:19 PM
if that was a flagrant foul then this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZhDmm8q1YM

must be a 30 games suspension

JC_
04-28-2012, 07:20 PM
Not even close in my opinion. Not a fan of either team, and LBJ is the MVP this year no doubt, but from a perspective of a basketball fan, there is no way that's a flagrant.

In fact, LBJ should be mad at his teammates for not calling that pick. It was an illegal screen, no doubt about that. But someone still should've called it in my opinion.

I'm sure his teammates didn't expect Chandler to move into Lebron like that.

kjoke
04-28-2012, 07:20 PM
I think there was intent to go for the player, rather than make a basketball play. It's more close then people on here think.

still1ballin
04-28-2012, 07:23 PM
lol no! this is playoff basketball

bholly
04-28-2012, 07:24 PM
After reading about it but not seeing it I'm really surprised how nothing it was. That isn't a flagrant.

R0W
04-28-2012, 07:25 PM
if that was a flagrant foul then this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZhDmm8q1YM

must be a 30 games suspension

Damn he got leveled but it was clean

xxplayerxx23
04-28-2012, 07:26 PM
no way I really hope they let them play a little more in game 2, this is the playoffs

29$JerZ
04-28-2012, 07:26 PM
The NBA has become a sport of acting rather than physical play.

JC_
04-28-2012, 07:28 PM
The NBA has become a sport of acting rather than physical play.

Melo better take some acting lessons if he's going to play like **** all series

kjoke
04-28-2012, 07:30 PM
Melo better take some acting lessons if he's going to play like **** all series

This was full of win.

JasonJohnHorn
04-28-2012, 07:36 PM
JVG was crying about that call... I agreed with JVG. A foul yes, a flagarant, no.

R0W
04-28-2012, 07:40 PM
Melo better take some acting lessons if he's going to play like **** all series

he was turrible

rwynyc
04-28-2012, 07:49 PM
I swear if I were a player I would take the 20k fine and speak my mind about the flopping. Its amazing these guys dont speak up. Its like NAZI boot camp

kjoke
04-28-2012, 07:50 PM
I swear if I were a player I would take the 20k fine and speak my mind about the flopping. Its amazing these guys dont speak up. Its like NAZI boot camp

Comparing The NBA to NAZI bootcamps FTW!

Shlumpledink
04-28-2012, 07:55 PM
if lebron doesn't do the blake griffin head flop he doesn't get whiplash. There are worse moving screen calls that aren't called than this one. Since it happened in the open court, and to lebron james, it got extra attention. Another bad call by referees, calling fouls based on the reaction of the player, that needs to be stopped. Refs need to sack up.

NYsFinest
04-28-2012, 07:56 PM
The NBA is a pathetic joke of an organization... full of dirty corrupt crooks. Makes me sick that I love the sport of basketball so much that I have to deal with this ********. Tired of the fixed drafts for storylines, the scandals, the over dramatized and over hyped free agency and trade rumors, the BLATANT favorism by referees.

Miami was the better team today, but the referees completely sucked the life out of NY with a barrage of blatant lopsided calls in the second quarter. Lebron elbowing JR and flopping out of bounds when JR didn't even touch him was another one of my favorites.

koreancabbage
04-28-2012, 07:57 PM
if lebron doesn't do the blake griffin head flop he doesn't get whiplash. There are worse moving screen calls that aren't called than this one. Since it happened in the open court, and to lebron james, it got extra attention. Another bad call by referees, calling fouls based on the reaction of the player, that needs to be stopped. Refs need to sack up.

that was a foul lol.not a flagrant but def a foul. that wasn't a set on that pick. it's obvious that Chandler ran into Lebron with intent. and with force.

Raph12
04-28-2012, 08:39 PM
Lebron's flopping and the official's giving him each and every call in the book disgusted me today, it's the only game I stopped watching at halftime today.

Slug3
04-28-2012, 08:54 PM
I actually thought it was a clean screen. The only thing I can think of was because his elbows were up close to lebrons neck.

ManningToTyree
04-28-2012, 08:58 PM
not even close, but what do you expect when it is LeBron

JC_
04-28-2012, 08:59 PM
[QUOTE=Shlumpledink;21979254]if lebron doesn't do the blake griffin head flop he doesn't get whiplash. QUOTE]

lol have u ever been hit from behind? Your head goes back.

justinnum1
04-28-2012, 09:03 PM
if anything this helped the knicks get chandler off the floor, he was just horrible, one of the worst playoff performances i have seen from a player. it was obvious they should have just sat him.

R0W
04-28-2012, 09:05 PM
if anything this helped the knicks get chandler off the floor, he was just horrible, one of the worst playoff performances i have seen from a player. it was obvious they should have just sat him.

same could be said about lebron in the 4th in last years final.

Dankster
04-28-2012, 09:08 PM
Well looking back at the play, he could've had a "neck stinger," but there's no real excuse for falling to the floor. That was a bit silly on Lebrons part.

The NBA is turning into soccer in the sense that players are flopping more than ever before. I hope the league looks into it a bit as players who flop in soccer now face stiff penalties (yellow cards,) when they're flopping is obvious.

Cano4prez
04-28-2012, 09:11 PM
if that was a flagrant foul then this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZhDmm8q1YM

must be a 30 games suspension

That was a legal screen he didn't lean to lean into him with the intent of a foul like Chandler

29$JerZ
04-28-2012, 09:14 PM
It was over-selling the contact.
A tech foul is a joke but after what I saw today I see why they'd call that.

AntiG
04-28-2012, 09:28 PM
barely even a foul... turrible acting too.

naps
04-28-2012, 09:30 PM
Clearly. He had little to no intention of making a basketball play there.

IDunknown
04-28-2012, 09:52 PM
How does LeBron's teammates not realize that he is a flop master? They actually look mad at Chandler.
It's an illegal screen, because he didn't get set and leaned in.Definitely not a flagrant.

IDunknown
04-28-2012, 10:05 PM
if that was a flagrant foul then this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZhDmm8q1YM

must be a 30 games suspension

That's a good blind side screen.His teammate should have warned him.
Reggie with the terrible commentary in this clip.

IDunknown
04-28-2012, 10:24 PM
Well looking back at the play, he could've had a "neck stinger," but there's no real excuse for falling to the floor. That was a bit silly on Lebrons part.

The NBA is turning into soccer in the sense that players are flopping more than ever before. I hope the league looks into it a bit as players who flop in soccer now face stiff penalties (yellow cards,) when they're flopping is obvious.

In the NFL when players get stingers they lay there like they are paralyzed for a while.

justjames
04-28-2012, 10:26 PM
It was a KG moving screen. Nothing more, nothing less.

greg_ory_2005
04-28-2012, 10:42 PM
Didn't Lebron pretty much do the same thing to Lucas lol.

R0W
04-28-2012, 10:58 PM
Clearly. He had little to no intention of making a basketball play there.

You talking about lebron flopping?

knicksfan42
04-28-2012, 11:21 PM
You should mention the fact that the officals went to the replay, viewed it in slow motion and still ruled it a technical in your official post.

knicksfan42
04-28-2012, 11:23 PM
Lebron's flopping and the official's giving him each and every call in the book disgusted me today, it's the only game I stopped watching at halftime today.

Stop defending the Knicks you homer, oh wait you're a Magic fan. My friend is a Lakers fan he texts me the same thing at halftime, he's like this is disgusting I can't watch anymore.

daleja424
04-28-2012, 11:24 PM
Not a flagrant foul... And if this Knicks lost by 2 instead of 40 maybe it would be worth having a conversation about. But alas the heat thoroughly kicked NYs butt on both ends of the court so not even 10 blown calls would have made this a close game.

NoahH
04-28-2012, 11:24 PM
He hit LBJ pretty hard...

Master Mind
04-28-2012, 11:25 PM
He lunged into Bron. Clearly wanted to make him feel it. That's not Tyson's first hard foul on Bron, he has a personal vendetta against the Heat.

lakersfan01
04-28-2012, 11:35 PM
Forced to watch a 30 second advertisement just to watch a 29 second video clip... thank you NBA

Metta World Peace would be suspended if he did that. It was a flagrant foul because Chandler didn't just set a screen, he came flying up and extended his elbows to hit Lebron extra hard. It was an extracurricular screen to say the least.

Master Mind
04-28-2012, 11:37 PM
Bounty screen :shrug:

FreakaNashur
04-28-2012, 11:45 PM
it wasn't a flagrant but it was a foul.

shep33
04-28-2012, 11:46 PM
KG should have 10,000 flagrant fouls if this is considered one. It's a foul, an illegal screen, but it wasn't a flagrant.

That being said, what does it matter? Game was a blowout anyways, and I'm guessing they'll rescind it

Heatcheck
04-29-2012, 09:53 AM
if that was a flagrant foul then this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZhDmm8q1YM

must be a 30 games suspension


You honestly see no difference between this video, and chandler leaning into lebron and extending his arms twice? really?

Lebron sttod there. Chandler tried a fake *** hockey move..2 times.

Heatcheck
04-29-2012, 09:55 AM
Its obvious they were trying to rough up lebron and get physical, the **** didnt work and you got caught TWICE.

AGAIN...he LEANED into him, and extended his arms. In no league in the world is that permissible (except NHL).

justinnum1
04-29-2012, 10:13 AM
You honestly see no difference between this video, and chandler leaning into lebron and extending his arms twice? really?

Lebron sttod there. Chandler tried a fake *** hockey move..2 times.

for real

kntresistheheat
04-29-2012, 10:18 AM
It was a flagrant because it was called by the refs. Duh!

rickshaw
04-29-2012, 10:21 AM
While I was pissed at Lebron's flopping, I'm not so sure this was one of them. His neck snapped back pretty hard.

basketfan4life
04-29-2012, 10:29 AM
d-wade hits rip hamilton with his elbow, knocks him on the floor it's barely flagrant 1, chandler sets an illegal screen to lbj and it's almost flagrant 2, they changed it to flagrant 1 after reviewing it.

The NBA is a total joke,by all aspects. Don't say "then don't watch" cause i'gonna watch it. Travesty at its finest form.

justinnum1
04-29-2012, 11:19 AM
Anyone that thinks that was a flop, grab a freind and tell him to wun into your upper back, let me know what happens.

kenzo400
04-29-2012, 12:40 PM
Forced to watch a 30 second advertisement just to watch a 29 second video clip... thank you NBA

This is why they invented this wonderful thing called the "adblocker"

justinnum1
04-29-2012, 12:56 PM
This is why they invented this wonderful thing called the "adblocker"

i have adblocker, i still have to watch 30 or 15 second ads on nba.com videos:shrug: what ad blocker are you using?

therealwd27
04-29-2012, 01:09 PM
if it were football he wouldve got a penalty flag...did lebron sell it more sure, its what smart players do

but if it were D-Rose or KD or Kobe everyone would be calling for a suspension stop hating on Lebron already smh

Raps08-09 Champ
04-29-2012, 01:41 PM
No flagrant. But he leaned in so a clear foul.

Also, for the idiot who brought up the Lebron-Lucas altercation, Lebron clearly didn't lean in.

kenzo400
04-29-2012, 02:46 PM
i have adblocker, i still have to watch 30 or 15 second ads on nba.com videos what ad blocker are you using?

Adblock plus for firefox. Just google it. Works for everything.

sep11ie
04-29-2012, 03:36 PM
Proof that you can knock a 6'9" 280 pound man down like he's a sissy girl.

hail2skins4life
04-29-2012, 06:26 PM
haha that was a huge flop. and then his whole act running around the court like he was in huge pain. he really deserves an oscar nominee for that. lebron is a fake

justinnum1
04-29-2012, 06:29 PM
haha that was a huge flop. and then his whole act running around the court like he was in huge pain. he really deserves an oscar nominee for that. lebron is a fake

lol

NYSPORTSALLDAY
04-29-2012, 08:04 PM
Lebron is such a ***** plain and simple