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Celticsfan2007
04-27-2012, 05:07 PM
NEW YORK -- Seven ties among teams that finished the 2011-12 NBA regular season with identical records were broken today through random drawings to help determine the order of selection for the 2012 NBA Draft, which will be held on Thursday, June 28, at The Prudential Center in Newark, N.J.

The drawings were conducted earlier today in New York City by Carol Sawdye, NBA Chief Financial Officer, and Dan Rube, NBA Senior Vice President and Deputy General Counsel. The tiebreak process was overseen by Martin Shannon, a partner in the accounting firm of Ernst & Young.

The results of the drawings:

· Cleveland (21-45) won a tiebreaker with New Orleans.

· Sacramento (22-44) won a tiebreaker with New Jersey.

· Golden State (23-43) won a tiebreaker with Toronto.

· New York (36-30) won a tiebreaker with Dallas; and Dallas won a tiebreaker with Utah.

· L.A. Clippers (40-26) won a tiebreaker with Atlanta.

· L.A. Lakers (41-25) won a tiebreaker with Memphis.

· Chicago (50-16) won a tiebreaker with San Antonio.

Attached is the order of selection for the 2012 NBA Draft, as well as the number of chances for teams in the 2012 NBA Draft Lottery, to be held May 30.

2012 FIRST ROUND DRAFT CHOICE ORDER

The teams entered in the lottery, to be held on May 30, 2012, are as follows (note: the first three picks in the Draft will be determined by the lottery and the remainder of the "lottery teams" will select in positions 4 through 14 in inverse order of their consolidated standings at the end of the regular season):

Team record (Lottery changes, out of 1,000)

Charlotte 7-59 250

Washington 20-46 199

Cleveland 21-45 138

New Orleans 21-45 137

Sacramento 22-44 76

New Jersey* 22-44 75

Golden State# 23-43 36

Toronto 23-43 35

Detroit 25-41 17

Minnesota (To New Orleans via LA Clippers) 26-40 11

Portland 28-38 8

Milwaukee 31-35 7

Phoenix 33-33 6

Houston 34-32 5

The order for the remainder of the first round picks is as follows:

15. Philadelphia 35-31

16. New York (To Houston) 36-30

17. Dallas 36-30

18. Utah (To Minnesota) 36-30

19. Orlando 37-29

20. Denver 38-28

21. Boston 39-27

22. LA Clippers (To Boston via OKC) 40-26

23. Atlanta 40-26

24. LA Lakers (To Cleveland) 41-25

25. Memphis 41-25

26. Indiana 42-24

27. Miami 46-20

28. Oklahoma City 47-19

29. Chicago 50-16

30. San Antonio (To Golden State) 50-16

* - This pick may be conveyed to Portland.

# - This pick may be conveyed to Utah via New Jersey.

2012 SECOND ROUND DRAFT CHOICE ORDER

31. Charlotte

32. Washington

33/34. New Orleans (To Cleveland via Miami)

33/34. Cleveland

35/36. New Jersey (To Golden State)

35/36. Sacramento

37/38. Toronto

37/38. Golden State (To Denver via New York)

39. Detroit

40. Minnesota (To Portland via Houston)

41. Portland

42. Milwaukee

43. Phoenix (To Atlanta)

44. Houston (To Detroit)

45. Philadelphia

46. Dallas (To Washington)

47. Utah

48. New York

49. Orlando

50. Denver

51. Boston

52. Atlanta (To Golden State)

53. LA Clippers

54. Memphis (To Philadelphia)

55. LA Lakers (To Dallas)

56. Indiana (To Toronto)

57. Miami (To New Jersey)

58. Oklahoma City (To Minnesota)

59. San Antonio

60. Chicago (To New Jersey via Milwaukee or to LA Lakers via New Jersey and Milwaukee)

* Please note that teams that finished the regular season with identical records will select in the second round in the reverse of the order in which they select in the first round, provided, that if more than two teams are tied, then, as among the tied teams, each tied team will select one position earlier than it selected in the first round, except that the tied team that selected earliest in the first round shall, among the tied teams, select latest in the second round. With respect to the ties between Cleveland and New Orleans (21 and 45); New Jersey and Sacramento (22 and 44); and Golden State and Toronto (23 and 43): since the order of selection in the first round for this set of teams may change based on the results of the Draft Lottery, the order of selection in the second round cannot be determined until after the Draft Lottery is conducted.


http://www.nba.com/2012/news/04/27/lottery-ties/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

Boston will have back-to-back picks (21,22) :clap:

spreadeagle
04-27-2012, 05:11 PM
ughhhh i heard Toronto won brutal G.S keeps there pick now I think fack

matnautico
04-27-2012, 05:16 PM
The Nets just cant get lucky, if we dont get a top 3 pick we're ****ed.

tredigs
04-27-2012, 05:20 PM
ughhhh i heard Toronto won brutal G.S keeps there pick now I think fack

You just made two opposing points...

GS won and has about a 70% chance to retain their pick and/or move up (~13% chance at a top 3 pick and ~3% at Anthony Davis). But that's still a decent chance they could lose it.

R0W
04-27-2012, 05:22 PM
Hope the celtics gets austin rivers would love to see him on the celtics

AceMan
04-27-2012, 05:25 PM
I hate that Golden State gets to keep their pick. I'm usually fine with tanking but to do it as obviously as they did when the fans were so blatantly angry at them for it just pisses me off. I hope they retroactively pick Hasheem Thabeet

matnautico
04-27-2012, 05:27 PM
You just made two opposing points...

GS won and has about a 70% chance to retain their pick and/or move up (~13% chance at a top 3 pick and ~3% at Anthony Davis). But that's still a decent chance they could lose it.

What are the odds the Nets get a top 3 pick?

spreadeagle
04-27-2012, 05:27 PM
You just made two opposing points...

GS won and has about a 70% chance to retain their pick and/or move up (~13% chance at a top 3 pick and ~3% at Anthony Davis). But that's still a decent chance they could lose it.

I had heard Toronto won but was wrong, and was wondering if G.S would still keep there pick....it was a rage post lol

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-27-2012, 05:53 PM
Warriors could still lose their pick...or am I wrong?

Monta is beast
04-27-2012, 05:56 PM
Warriors could still lose their pick...or am I wrong?

We have a 73% chance of keeping our pick.

Cal827
04-27-2012, 05:59 PM
LOL, to me the funniest thing is that they gave the losing team in the first round the higher second round pick.... like that usually helps :p

As I mentioned before, it would just make more sense to split the odds between the tied teams (e.g. 3/4 between Cleveland and NO, and 7/8 between the Warriors and Raptors). I don't say this as a Raptor fan mad that we are 8th now, cause we probably are not winning this lotto anyways (both have low odds), but I mean in general.


It is funny to see NJ fall a bit back too.

tredigs
04-27-2012, 06:15 PM
What are the odds the Nets get a top 3 pick?

Not great, but could be worse. About 22% chance at a top 3 from the 6 slot.

smith&wesson
04-27-2012, 06:24 PM
I hate that Golden State gets to keep their pick. I'm usually fine with tanking but to do it as obviously as they did when the fans were so blatantly angry at them for it just pisses me off. I hope they retroactively pick Hasheem Thabeet

to be fair that you have to acknowledge the fact that three of their core playrs are injured. curry, lee ,& bogut.

kenzo400
04-27-2012, 08:21 PM
What are the odds the Nets get a top 3 pick?

100%, NBA already has it rigged.

Bulls_fan90
04-27-2012, 08:53 PM
Yeah Bulls!!!! Pick 29 woooo

naps
04-27-2012, 09:00 PM
Watch out for the Spurs. They #30 and still they will steal some ridiculous talent. Their scouting is the best hands down.

fadedmario
04-27-2012, 09:07 PM
Proud of the Pistons for not taking the ***** move and tanking like some other teams did. Guarantee were in the playoffs before a bunch of the sorry teams tanking. Once a loser always a loser. We may be down now but not for long.

Detroit will make the playoffs next year.

fadedmario
04-27-2012, 09:12 PM
Pistons started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. Much improved team and learned how to win, instead of how to tank. A few teams in the league should be ashamed of themselves. Not going to name teams, but it's clear there were teams deliberately tanking.

valade16
04-27-2012, 09:16 PM
100%, NBA already has it rigged.

As a Blazer fan - this.

Monta is beast
04-27-2012, 09:37 PM
Watch out for the Spurs. They #30 and still they will steal some ridiculous talent. Their scouting is the best hands down.

The Warriors have the Spurs pick.

topdog
04-27-2012, 09:44 PM
My Wolves still can't catch a break! They've never moved up and even when the Utah pick (Al Jefferson trade to Wolves) is in a 3-way tie it comes out last :(

Raps411
04-27-2012, 09:46 PM
Pistons started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. Much improved team and learned how to win, instead of how to tank. A few teams in the league should be ashamed of themselves. Not going to name teams, but it's clear there were teams deliberately tanking.

I totally agree with you on this one

Monta is beast
04-27-2012, 09:48 PM
Pistons started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. Much improved team and learned how to win, instead of how to tank. A few teams in the league should be ashamed of themselves. Not going to name teams, but it's clear there were teams deliberately tanking.

I know your talking about the Warriors when you were saying certain teams tanked. But they weren't tanking bro they had Curry, Lee, Bogut, Biedrins, Wright, and Robinson all get injured. Shoot Jenkins had to play every minute of every game on our back to back to back. But your right the Pistons really turned it around, I hope they can get back on track. The NBA is better when the Pistons are playing well.

jimbobjarree
04-27-2012, 09:53 PM
Pistons started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. Much improved team and learned how to win, instead of how to tank. A few teams in the league should be ashamed of themselves. Not going to name teams, but it's clear there were teams deliberately tanking.

I really hope y'all win the lottery. I respect that your guys still came to play, and I think Davis would fit the Pistons very well.

Either you or the Hornets, I respect what Monty Williams did with that squad too, regardless of how terrible his team was.

Gators123
04-27-2012, 10:07 PM
Pistons started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. Much improved team and learned how to win, instead of how to tank. A few teams in the league should be ashamed of themselves. Not going to name teams, but it's clear there were teams deliberately tanking.

:clap: I was happy to see the Pistons play competitive basketball after that terrible start.

During the press conference today Dumars was asked about teams tanking and I 100% agree with him...


On the Pistons playing competitively in the final month, while some other draft lottery contenders seemed indifferent to winning:

“Different organizations do things differently. I'm not here to cast any judgments on other organizations. It's just not what we've done. It's not what we've had to do here, in Detroit, to be good. We've just not had to go down that road. So just because that's what someone else does, that doesn't mean that that's what we do. We want guys to leave here with the bar raised. We don't want any kind of asterisk next to what we're doing. We play to win here.”

Dumars noted that three times in the last 22 years, the team with the worst record actually finished with the No. 1 overall pick.

“So just the numbers alone would ask you, 'What are you tanking for?' It's not like the NFL, where whatever record you finish with, that's where you're going to be drafting. It's to get in a lottery, and the lottery doesn't guarantee you anything. It doesn't guarantee you that if we'd been tanking games for the last two weeks, that we're going to get anything. Yeah, the odds are a little bit better, but three out of 22 years?

“It just doesn't make sense, from a standpoint of what it does to your players. If you allow that in your building, sometimes it's hard to get it out. If you allow that to be a part of your fabric, and who you are, it doesn't leave when you want it to leave sometimes. Sometimes, it's in there. So we're going to try to win. I mean, that's what we're here for. So whatever happens with the lottery, we'll accept that, we'll keep building, and we'll keep doing it the right way. That's the Pistons' philosophy. I'm not here to speak for other teams.”
http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2012/04/detroit_pistons_joe_dumars_vow.html