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the avenger
04-27-2012, 07:41 AM
I just noticed that Tyson Chandler didn't end the season as the NBA leader in %FG!!! He didn't qualify??? Can somebody please tell me how this is possible? I thought 241 FG made was enough for a 66 game shedule?

effen5
04-27-2012, 08:32 AM
It be a ****in travesty if Tyson chandler lead the league in fg with just dunks

Dade County
04-27-2012, 09:03 AM
It be a ****in travesty if Tyson chandler lead the league in fg with just dunks

lmao!!!!!! lol

nice one

jimm120
04-27-2012, 09:10 AM
Wut u talking about!!?!

I clearly remember around 6 shots (a hook, a jump shot from the side, et al). They were NOT all dunks.

nycericanguy
04-27-2012, 09:14 AM
It be a ****in travesty if Tyson chandler lead the league in fg with just dunks

you could say the same about most centers.

It would be a travesty if a guy that averaged 11ppg and played practically every game didn't qualify... that doesn't make any sense... probably just a typo.

I mean he averaged almost 4 FG's made per game. For comparison to one of my favorite players, thats about the same as Gallinairi who averaged 4.5.

oak2455
04-27-2012, 09:14 AM
Wut u talking about!!?!

I clearly remember around 6 shots (a hook, a jump shot from the side, et al). They were NOT all dunks.

Lmao.... You forgot the fade away......:clap:

MTL_123
04-27-2012, 09:15 AM
It be a ****in travesty if Tyson chandler lead the league in fg with just dunks

lmao:D:D

Swashcuff
04-27-2012, 09:35 AM
you could say the same about most centers.

It would be a travesty if a guy that averaged 11ppg and played practically every game didn't qualify... that doesn't make any sense... probably just a typo.

I mean he averaged almost 4 FG's made per game. For comparison to one of my favorite players, thats about the same as Gallinairi who averaged 4.5.


To qualify as a field goal percentage leader, the player must have at least 300 field goals made. Aside from the strike shortened 1998–99 season, this has been the entry criteria since the 1974–75 season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_top_indivi dual_field_goal_percentage_seasons

In that season Shaq won the title making 510 FGs and Otis Thorpe was 2nd making 240. That season was just 49 games however. Tyson didn't qualify plain and simple. That's nothing to be upset about the NBA has had their criteria in place for over 30 years now.

justinnum1
04-27-2012, 09:41 AM
:facepalm:

the avenger
04-27-2012, 09:46 AM
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To qualify as a field goal percentage leader, the player must have at least 300 field goals made. Aside from the strike shortened 1998–99 season, this has been the entry criteria since the 1974–75 season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...entage_seasons

In that season Shaq won the title making 510 FGs and Otis Thorpe was 2nd making 240. That season was just 49 games however. Tyson didn't qualify plain and simple. That's nothing to be upset about the NBA has had their criteria in place for over 30 years now.
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@ SWASHCUFF: I'm not upset, but you're wrong about that 300FGM to qualify in this shortened season. Pekovic is #2 with 256 FGM and Ridnour is also on the list with 242 FGM (one more than Chandler)??

yanksrock
04-27-2012, 09:51 AM
Travesty

nycericanguy
04-27-2012, 09:55 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_top_indivi dual_field_goal_percentage_seasons

In that season Shaq won the title making 510 FGs and Otis Thorpe was 2nd making 240. That season was just 49 games however. Tyson didn't qualify plain and simple. That's nothing to be upset about the NBA has had their criteria in place for over 30 years now.

wow thats insane, I never knew that. I mean I knew there was a minimum, but never thought it was so strict. I never thought a guy could average 11ppg and not qualify. I mean he was their 4th leading scorer!...lol

So basically every year there are a ton of players who play alot of minutes in every game and wont qualify?

Guys like Chandler, Noah, Gallo, Ibaka, Faried, Camby, Perkins, Splitter, Blair, Jordan...etc... just randomly going through a few. Hell even Manu Ginobli wouldn't qualify even if he had played every game!...lol

the avenger
04-27-2012, 09:57 AM
In the shortened 1999-2000 season, 183 FGM was enough to qualify. This season, 241 FGM is normally the minimum to qualify: http://www.nba.com/leader_requirements.html

Chandler MADE those 241 FG, and still he's not on the list...

Patman
04-27-2012, 10:46 AM
In the shortened 1999-2000 season, 183 FGM was enough to qualify. This season, 241 FGM is normally the minimum to qualify: http://www.nba.com/leader_requirements.html

Chandler MADE those 241 FG, and still he's not on the list...

300 for a 82 Game season means 241.46 in a 66 Game season. This means that 242 FG would be the cutoff. Chandler needed one more FG to qualify, nothing strange about it. Can we please stop ****ing about it? There were over 100 players in the NBA that made mor FG's then Chandler (111 to be exact).

SluggeR
04-27-2012, 10:46 AM
There were A LOT of passes he dropped and just wasn't ready for, guess that end up costing him. I'm sure if he gets DPOY, he won't sweat it.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-27-2012, 10:48 AM
the guy can only dunk and defend

QueensG
04-27-2012, 10:52 AM
the guy can only dunk and defend

and the biggest knick hater award goes to you my friend...congratulations

teddygreen17
04-27-2012, 10:58 AM
I'm sure that Defensive Player of the year will make up for it.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-27-2012, 11:06 AM
and the biggest knick hater award goes to you my friend...congratulations

Did I say something wrong:confused:

sintaks12
04-27-2012, 11:09 AM
Did I say something wrong:confused:

I think you just described Dwight Howard?

Chronz
04-27-2012, 11:11 AM
In related news, Kemba Walker qualified for the lowest FG% in the 3pt era.

Celticsfan2007
04-27-2012, 11:21 AM
the guy can only dunk and defend

Stop it.

That's offensive to NYK fans, you know how much they love their players..

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-27-2012, 11:24 AM
I think you just described Dwight Howard?

you serious?

Better hope that Raph doesnt see your post:o

GiantsSwaGG
04-27-2012, 11:39 AM
the guy can only dunk and defend

I don't mind that at all, ask the Mavs, without his defense and dunking, they wouldn't stand a chance against the heat....nice attempt to troll though...

You get an A for effort!

gotoHcarolina52
04-27-2012, 11:42 AM
I would take the time to explain it to you, but this NBA.com article (http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Wambulance_2f3fea_372654.jpg) fleshes out all the details, and does a better job of explaining it than I ever could.

justinnum1
04-27-2012, 11:45 AM
In related news, Kemba Walker qualified for the lowest FG% in the 3pt era.

how did he beat out norris cole?

NYK4L
04-27-2012, 12:02 PM
Ty is the man! Go Knicks.

meloman1592
04-27-2012, 12:21 PM
Smh way to rip him off

MELO 15
04-27-2012, 12:30 PM
Don't worry, hell won defensive player of the year to make up for it

gsgs49
04-27-2012, 01:44 PM
Tyson finished the season with a more impressive feat though.
He has now the best true shooting % of all time in a regular season 0.708
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ts_pct_season.html
TS% is points scored per shooting possession divided by 2.
So Tyson scores a ridiculous 1.42 points per possession.

Evolution23
04-27-2012, 02:37 PM
who cares. we are about to sweep the heat.

D-Leethal
04-27-2012, 02:52 PM
I would think they would adjust for lockout shortened seasons, no?

Oh well, hes gonna win DPOY.

nycsports2
04-27-2012, 03:05 PM
I would think they would adjust for lockout shortened seasons, no?

Oh well, hes gonna win DPOY.

lmaooooooo great sig i went off when that happened lol

5ass
04-27-2012, 03:14 PM
:clap: dwight howard. Thats atleast his 3rd straight year of leading the league in FG%. What a beast.

5ass
04-27-2012, 03:15 PM
I think you just described Dwight Howard?

i think you've never seen howard play.

Raph12
04-27-2012, 03:35 PM
Just another category Dwight leads the league in. :D

Raph12
04-27-2012, 03:48 PM
I think you just described Dwight Howard?

Tyson has made only 9 shots (attempted 32) that weren't "at the rim" this season; Dwight has made 114 shots (attempted 247) that weren't "at the rim". Tyson has had 22 post plays run for him this season, Dwight has had 660 post plays run for him this season (scored on over 52% of them); Dwight plays as a #1 option, Tyson is non-factor on offense.. I think you need to look outside your box buddy, Tyson is nothing but a dunker on offense.

JasonJohnHorn
04-27-2012, 04:02 PM
I don't care what the league says, he's the FG% champ in my eyes!
Anybody who averages double-digits in assists should be up for consideration, so long as they played most games.

Swashcuff
04-28-2012, 11:11 AM
I find it amazing that throughout this entire thread no one has mentioned the fact that for the 2nd season running Tyson is the leagues most efficient scorer (despite not making the highest % of his FGAs). Not only being the most efficient scorer this season but becoming the most efficient scorer of all time for a single season besting Artis Gilmore's mark of 70.24 set some 30 years ago.

So why even bother about leading the league in FG% when you will now be recognized as the most efficient single season scorer in the history of the league with a 70.81 TS%.

Congratulations Tyson Chandler the New York Knicks 2011-2012 MVP and possibly league DOPY.

Swashcuff
04-28-2012, 11:30 AM
Oh and one last thing about Chandler. Everyone was saying how Jason Kidd and Chris Paul made Tyson Chandler offensively, well this season was his best offensive season yet and guess what he didn't play with a top quality passing PG all year. Tyson Chandler proved this season that he's very good offensively (by his standards) without playing with a top calibre passing point guard. For the 2nd season in a row he leads the league in ORtg and TS%.

Hustla23
04-28-2012, 11:33 AM
Tyson has made only 9 shots (attempted 32) that weren't "at the rim" this season; Dwight has made 114 shots (attempted 247) that weren't "at the rim". Tyson has had 22 post plays run for him this season, Dwight has had 660 post plays run for him this season (scored on over 52% of them); Dwight plays as a #1 option, Tyson is non-factor on offense.. I think you need to look outside your box buddy, Tyson is nothing but a dunker on offense.
Although I agree that Tyson is nothing compared to Dwight offensively, you're selling Tyson's offensive value way short.

He frees up guys like Novak and Smith by constantly setting screens and is the #1 pick and roll option for us, even above Amare.

He also happens to draw a ton of fouls.

Our offense would be way worse if Tyson didn't play so he definitely has a huge impact on that end.

Kashmir13579
04-28-2012, 11:43 AM
He doesn't care. Winter is coming..

Swashcuff
04-28-2012, 11:50 AM
Although I agree that Tyson is nothing compared to Dwight offensively, you're selling Tyson's offensive value way short.

He frees up guys like Novak and Smith by constantly setting screens and is the #1 pick and roll option for us, even above Amare.

He also happens to draw a ton of fouls.

Our offense would be way worse if Tyson didn't play so he definitely has a huge impact on that end.

And his 131/130 ORtg these past two seasons is testament to that

oak2455
04-28-2012, 11:54 AM
I find it amazing that throughout this entire thread no one has mentioned the fact that for the 2nd season running Tyson is the leagues most efficient scorer (despite not making the highest % of his FGAs). Not only being the most efficient scorer this season but becoming the most efficient scorer of all time for a single season besting Artis Gilmore's mark of 70.24 set some 30 years ago.

So why even bother about leading the league in FG% when you will now be recognized as the most efficient single season scorer in the history of the league with a 70.81 TS%.

Congratulations Tyson Chandler the New York Knicks 2011-2012 MVP and possibly league DOPY.


Oh and one last thing about Chandler. Everyone was saying how Jason Kidd and Chris Paul made Tyson Chandler offensively, well this season was his best offensive season yet and guess what he didn't play with a top quality passing PG all year. Tyson Chandler proved this season that he's very good offensively (by his standards) without playing with a top calibre passing point guard. For the 2nd season in a row he leads the league in ORtg and TS%.

Very well said .... Tyson has been the Knicks MVP in more ways than one.... What a leader.... Take note Dwight take notes

Kashmir13579
04-28-2012, 12:15 PM
And his 131/130 ORtg these past two seasons is testament to that

You see that Steve Novak is just behind him in ORtg? Who needs 'Melo? lol

Swashcuff
04-28-2012, 12:19 PM
You see that Steve Novak is just behind him in ORtg? Who needs 'Melo? lol

Threes and dunks all day baby :laugh2:

oak2455
04-28-2012, 12:27 PM
You see that Steve Novak is just behind him in ORtg? Who needs 'Melo? lol

Youre not a Cuse guy:p

Kashmir13579
04-28-2012, 12:32 PM
Youre not a Cuse guy:p

You're not. :eyebrow:

oak2455
04-28-2012, 01:44 PM
You're not. :eyebrow:

No way I'm an ACC guy ;)

PleaseBeNice
04-28-2012, 02:32 PM
why does he deserve dpoy? 7th seed in EAST

Chronz
04-28-2012, 05:47 PM
why does he deserve dpoy? 7th seed in EAST
You do realize in order to win alot of games you have to be good on both ends right.

Raph12
04-28-2012, 08:43 PM
Although I agree that Tyson is nothing compared to Dwight offensively, you're selling Tyson's offensive value way short.

He frees up guys like Novak and Smith by constantly setting screens and is the #1 pick and roll option for us, even above Amare.

He also happens to draw a ton of fouls.

Our offense would be way worse if Tyson didn't play so he definitely has a huge impact on that end.

The Knicks offense has been better without Tyson this season, he does some of those little things, but Amare could replace them all and still spread the floor... His defensive value is the reason why he's on the court.