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basketfan4life
04-26-2012, 11:03 AM
toughts ?

mdm692
04-26-2012, 11:08 AM
chemistry nothing more important than that. Just look at the mavs last year.

Cal827
04-26-2012, 11:10 AM
Other: Basketball reasons.

KB-Pau-DH2012
04-26-2012, 11:26 AM
Rebounding, contesting shots, limiting points in the paint.

northsid3r
04-26-2012, 11:29 AM
Hate to say it, but in today's NBA Star Power is what can put a team over the top.
A combination of all 3: star power,defense, deep bench means more than 1 championship. Lakers with Kobe, Shaq and Bulls with Jordan and Pip.

Sinestro
04-26-2012, 11:33 AM
Defense I would say

nycsports2
04-26-2012, 11:37 AM
if you gotta pick 1 its defense

bulldog312
04-26-2012, 11:49 AM
Out of these? Well, defense. It accounts for an entire half of the game. I don't really believe defense is more important than offense (they are equal), but "star power" doesn't really mean anything on its own and a deep bench a) doesn't add up to half the game and b) is figured into total defense.

dh144498
04-26-2012, 02:14 PM
team work/chemistry

example: 2004 detroit pistons.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-26-2012, 02:18 PM
Defense

teddygreen17
04-26-2012, 02:36 PM
I would say star power. Probably 99% of the teams that have one NBA championships have had it. Second is defense.

meloman1592
04-26-2012, 02:59 PM
Chemistry and defense

mjm07
04-26-2012, 03:13 PM
Star Power/Defense

basketfan4life
04-26-2012, 03:22 PM
Rebounding, contesting shots, limiting points in the paint.

so, great defence ?

LongIslandIcedZ
04-26-2012, 03:24 PM
Defense and heart

Its why Dallas won last year

b@llhog24
04-26-2012, 03:28 PM
The team with most points on the board.

Captain Moroni
04-26-2012, 03:31 PM
If it were defense the knicks would have won 6 instead of the Bulls, in the 90's. Sub lebron for Jordan in those championship years and the Knicks win a few. Its a combination of things, defense is important but having a guy that can close out a game with a big shot is critical. Having veterans on the bench who can come in and take advantage of the other teams bench is big too.

k.smith904
04-26-2012, 03:36 PM
Its been defense.

Look at the most recent champs: Mavs, Celtics, Lakers....all had excellent defensive/rebounding teams. Obviously they all had good offenses as well, but my point remains.

All 3 are extremely important, I'm pretty sure its who has all 3 that gets into the right groove come playoff time that wins it. Look at last year.

KnicksorBust
04-26-2012, 03:51 PM
Star power.

RaiderLakersA's
04-26-2012, 03:59 PM
Those who say star power aren't quite right. We've all seen plenty of series where the stars on both the winning and losing sides could not get it done alone.

So that makes us turn to chemistry, although there are also plenty of examples where teammates who won titles really didn't like each other.

Which makes us turn the page to something like defense, or offense, or some barely perceptible variable.

Well, if we're going to go down that road, let me throw these two out there for you: arrogance and fortitude. These are the only variables that every championship team has had since the dawn of time. They all knew to a man, rightfully or wrongly, stats be damned, that no one was better than them. Not on that day, not in that series.

redwhitenblue
04-27-2012, 12:29 PM
If it were defense the knicks would have won 6 instead of the Bulls, in the 90's. Sub lebron for Jordan in those championship years and the Knicks win a few. Its a combination of things, defense is important but having a guy that can close out a game with a big shot is critical. Having veterans on the bench who can come in and take advantage of the other teams bench is big too.
I missed the Knicks teams that had 3 premeir defenders in their starting 5? Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were definition of elite defenders.

Raidaz4Life
04-27-2012, 12:31 PM
Defense and a go to scorer

Stinkyoutsider
04-27-2012, 12:56 PM
Got to say star power here. It's tough to win games on the road during the playoffs and star players usually put up similar numbers whether it's home or the road. It's also good to be able to lean on those star players when the offense needs a lift or key stops are needed on defense.

Detroit in 04 is an exception but I could we say Billips was a borderline star on that team? There were times he took over the offense.

todu82
04-27-2012, 01:11 PM
Great Defence.

torocan
04-27-2012, 01:40 PM
Defense. Compressed season means everyone's shooting is down. People are still going to go into the playoffs tired, which means expect defense to play an even bigger role. Those who can keep pushing defense are the one's who will have the most advantage I suspect. Teams counting heavily on Shooters are going to have issues, especially in the longer matches.

X-Factor : Injuries. Compressed season, so everyone is beat up and vulnerable. It doesn't take much to reinjure a groin, hamstring, get a sprain, etc when people have been playing so much all season already.

Bornknick73
04-27-2012, 03:26 PM
Hate to say it, but in today's NBA Star Power is what can put a team over the top.
A combination of all 3: star power,defense, deep bench means more than 1 championship. Lakers with Kobe, Shaq and Bulls with Jordan and Pip.

You just described the NY Knicks

Chronz
04-27-2012, 04:02 PM
3PT shooting and spacing

DLeeicious
04-27-2012, 04:16 PM
Turkish hammer

JayW_1023
04-27-2012, 04:41 PM
Be more like Mike.

Rain City
04-27-2012, 04:54 PM
I dont think it is dominating one aspect as much as it is the sum of all parts. Defense, depth, star power, chemistry....If you are dominant in one of these but are also awful in one, you are probably going to fall short.

smith&wesson
04-27-2012, 04:55 PM
you need star players & great defence. deep bench is not far behind. i think its a combination of all those things. as well as a potent offense.

Da Knicks
04-27-2012, 04:58 PM
chemistry defense!

tredigs
04-27-2012, 05:01 PM
Elite bigs (at least defensively), a high volume/go-to scorer, chemistry/depth, good coach. In that order. And almost always all necessary.

Randy West
04-27-2012, 05:23 PM
I selected other and I would say owners that are not afraid to spend a little money. You don't have some decent players and you really don't have much to work with.

Jumi
04-27-2012, 07:46 PM
Chemistry, players understanding their roles, a clear team identity, and at least a top 7 player in at least 3 postions.

PacersForLife
04-27-2012, 07:49 PM
Defense, chemistry, playing as a team.

llemon
04-27-2012, 08:28 PM
toughts ?

Outscoring your opponent in the last game of the playoffs.

That's my 'tought'.

basketfan4life
05-03-2012, 03:09 AM
Outscoring your opponent in the last game of the playoffs.

That's my 'tought'.

you are a great great mind, sir.

JJ_JKidd
05-03-2012, 03:13 AM
Believing that you can ACTUALLY win! :clap:

Sactown
05-03-2012, 03:18 AM
I would say you need all of them equally... I can't imagine a team winning even without one

CoffeeJanitor
05-03-2012, 03:20 AM
Star Power/DefenseThis, but if I had to choose I would take D. Though best case scenario would be a great big man who can defend the paint well

asandhu23
05-03-2012, 05:05 AM
Refs in your pocket.

thenaj17
05-03-2012, 06:27 AM
I went for other and i think most important is that little bit of luck. You can be as good as any team with stars, defense etc. but if you don't a slight bit of luck on the way with matchups, refs calls and the difference between a shot bouncing out when it's half way down and rolling in.

Hawkeye15
05-03-2012, 08:17 AM
Being balanced on both sides of the ball, with the ability to make stops and scores when absolutely necessary.

Valkyrie
05-03-2012, 08:36 AM
Luck

Blazers#1Fan
05-03-2012, 08:41 AM
aggressive star power in the playoffs is what wins titles

Gram
05-03-2012, 08:57 AM
team work/chemistry/defense

example: 2004 detroit pistons.

Fixed it for you.

Gram
05-03-2012, 08:58 AM
Defense.

theheatles
05-03-2012, 09:10 AM
defense

Valkyrie
05-03-2012, 09:19 AM
No one mentions luck as a factor

I am dissapoint

IndyRealist
05-03-2012, 09:37 AM
Defense is the single most important factor in a championship team. It's even with offense, but almost all teams play offense, if only to pad their stats. So the difference between a playoff team and a championship team is usually the level of defense they play. Forcing bad shots and forcing turnovers are the two most important parts to defense. If you force turnovers, you're preventing the opponent from taking a shot. That's better than even forcing a bad shot that still might go in.

The second most important factor is rebounding, which often gets overlooked as blue collar, unspectacular work done by role players. Rebounding 1) limits the other team's shots, and 2) creates shots for your team. Given that all teams get SOME offense (adjusted for pace, obviously), the simple notion is that you give yourself a much better chance to win if you can take more shots than your opponent.

If you look at the Knicks/Heat series so far, the Knicks aren't defending well, and aren't forcing turnovers. They are outrebounding the Heat, but not substantially. Conversely, the Heat are forcing a ton of turnovers (9spg) and are holding the Knicks to pretty low shooting percentages. That's the difference between a playoff team and a contending team.

IndyRealist
05-03-2012, 09:39 AM
No one mentions luck as a factor

I am dissapoint

Luck is a factor, but it's not the most IMPORTANT factor. Sure your guys have to be reasonbly healthy, and maybe a key player for the opponent goes down, but luck is much less of a factor in a 7 game series than it is in single elimination.

And luck is out of your control, so it's not like you can gameplan for it.

LongIslandIcedZ
05-03-2012, 09:46 AM
When was the last time, if ever, star power alone won a championship

knicks4life33
05-03-2012, 09:50 AM
teal work and chemistry and not choke

kdspurman
05-03-2012, 09:53 AM
It's a combination of all 3 plus luck when talking about injuries. No one thing is more important than the other

PurpleJesus
05-03-2012, 09:55 AM
team work/chemistry

example: 2004 detroit pistons.

star power

example: 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005.

BKLYNpigeon
05-03-2012, 09:58 AM
Star players.

BKLYNpigeon
05-03-2012, 10:24 AM
When was the last time, if ever, star power alone won a championship

Detroit Pistons 2004

Heater4life
05-03-2012, 10:45 AM
Matchup

I dont think any particular category is more important than the next. Its more so all the categories and how they matchup to the other teams strengths/weaknesses.

Showtime Steve
05-03-2012, 10:46 AM
Health

sep11ie
05-03-2012, 10:55 AM
team work/chemistry

example: 2004 detroit pistons.

So ONE title in 20 years for a team built like that... Great example.

JasonJohnHorn
05-03-2012, 11:43 AM
You need more than any one thing, but the two things you need the most is defence and rebounding. That is why Detroit had that long string of contention and why the Spurs have been so good, because every year they have a strong rebounding team, and ever year they have a great defensive set. Its why the Bulls were so good even without Rose for long stretches of the regular season.

Defence + Rebounds = Championships.

JasonJohnHorn
05-03-2012, 11:43 AM
So ONE title in 20 years for a team built like that... Great example.

The Spurs are another great example of that, as are the Mavs from last season.

LongIslandIcedZ
05-03-2012, 12:06 PM
If the Heat win this year, will it be because of star power? Because I figured it would have been from tough as nails defense.

BALLER R
05-03-2012, 01:19 PM
Star power to a degree isn't as important because look at the heat vs mavs series last year. Wouldn't you say lebron and wade are the better players out of both rosters.

JasonJohnHorn
05-03-2012, 05:51 PM
If you finish first in defence and first in rebounding, the NBA is already won.

felixng2012
05-03-2012, 06:35 PM
Star Power. Not many teams have won championships without star power.

PhillyFaninLA
05-03-2012, 06:50 PM
Leadership, matchups, chemistry

JOhnnyTHaJet
05-03-2012, 06:53 PM
I cant believe the Deep Bench option has such low votes, deep benches have made many Championship teams over Star power and Defense.

llemon
05-03-2012, 08:59 PM
you are a great great mind, sir.

I am quite aware of that fact.

Fnom11
05-03-2012, 09:01 PM
Coach.

TheNumber37
05-03-2012, 09:02 PM
easy. It's health.

KB24PG16
05-03-2012, 09:13 PM
a good team :laugh2:

JMKnick33
05-04-2012, 12:03 AM
another option should be added to the list: Health

C_Mund
05-04-2012, 12:19 AM
This is such a convoluted question, there's no way to properly argue one of the three choices and leave the other two out of the equation.

Fireworld
05-04-2012, 04:21 AM
Defense

Wade>You
05-04-2012, 04:29 AM
This is such a convoluted question, there's no way to properly argue one of the three choices and leave the other two out of the equation.This.

GREATNESS ONE
05-04-2012, 05:39 AM
Heart.