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AndyfromNeptune
04-22-2012, 11:11 PM
We've all seen recently what's been happening with star players like Lebron, Bosh, Melo, and Howard where they feel their teams are not performing up to their respective potential and decide to leave.


At what point is it too much for John Wall? They have a player like Rashard Lewis with a 22 million dollar contract for next year, a long term injury-prone player in Nene, and a horrible long term contract in Andray Blatche. It's unfortunate beacuse I want to see Wall lead a team like he did with Kentucky, but it doesn't look like the Wizards are going to be a top team in the next couple of years.

And to a lesser extent, what about with Kyrie Irving, Tyreke Evans, and Demar Derozan..with the latter two included beacuse I expect them to continue to get better.

When do these guys say enough is enough? Or do the Wizards, Kings, Cavaliers, and Raptors have a bright future within the next 3 years? What do you think will happen?

Share your thoughts.

JLynn943
04-22-2012, 11:59 PM
It depends largely on the mentality of the players for if/when it becomes too much. Some people want to see things through to the end and do everything they can to try to get a team to win. At some point though, if the team continues to make bad decisions and surround them with a sub-par product, it's unfair for the player to stay.

Look at someone like Nash for example. Since coming back to the Suns, he has made it his mission to take the Suns all the way. He took a not very good team to the WCF only to have the talent around him drop off even from those levels in subsequent years. Yet he still wants to stay. However, even he has finally made it known, now that he's near the end of his career, that the Suns need to improve for him to stay.

So how long does it take for the losing to get to these guys? It depends. If they have the mindset of Nash where they feel it is their responsibility to take the team that drafted them all the way, then it could be a while. If they are already fed up with a perceived lack of effort from the part of the front office or under-performance by the team, then it could be very soon.

From the players you listed though, Wall certainly seems to be the one stuck in the worst situation.

Chronz
04-23-2012, 01:37 AM
The Wizards arent in bad shape unless Javale blows up and/or Nene gos down. Rashard Lewis was a great addition when you consider who they had before that. And they can still use their amnesty. They are fine.

But to answer the question Ive always said the deal after the rookie contract is over is when the clock begins. If by your next contract date, the team hasnt done enough, thats when you leave.

Thats how all the greats have left I think.

mdm692
04-23-2012, 09:20 AM
It depends largely on the mentality of the players for if/when it becomes too much. Some people want to see things through to the end and do everything they can to try to get a team to win. At some point though, if the team continues to make bad decisions and surround them with a sub-par product, it's unfair for the player to stay.

Look at someone like Nash for example. Since coming back to the Suns, he has made it his mission to take the Suns all the way. He took a not very good team to the WCF only to have the talent around him drop off even from those levels in subsequent years. Yet he still wants to stay. However, even he has finally made it known, now that he's near the end of his career, that the Suns need to improve for him to stay.

So how long does it take for the losing to get to these guys? It depends. If they have the mindset of Nash where they feel it is their responsibility to take the team that drafted them all the way, then it could be a while. If they are already fed up with a perceived lack of effort from the part of the front office or under-performance by the team, then it could be very soon.

From the players you listed though, Wall certainly seems to be the one stuck in the worst situation.

very good and valid point but lets face it nash is one of those players you get to see once in a lifetime. The guy dropped nike to sign with a chinese brand because(and dont quote me on this) they did some kind of work that nash really respects