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Jeffy25
04-16-2012, 03:34 PM
5 year extension that starts next season with a club/vesting option for 2018 and a club option for 2019.

Good job Sabean, very smart choice.

Over the next five years, Bumgarner will earn 35 million, if he qualifies for Super 2 after 2012, it is raised to 40 million.


I don't know how his option years look with this though.

sexicano31
04-16-2012, 03:36 PM
GOD DAMMIT WHY CANT IT BE COLE?!?!?!


/capslock

Fly
04-16-2012, 03:37 PM
Very smart extension, I can see him becoming a top 10 pitcher in the game as soon as this year. All they need to do now is lock up Timmy. That won't be as easy as it looks, though. He'll want a lottttt of money

ESaady
04-16-2012, 03:52 PM
Love this deal. It's great for the Giants and great for Bumgarner!

redsox0717
04-16-2012, 03:54 PM
Very smart extension, I can see him becoming a top 10 pitcher in the game as soon as this year. All they need to do now is lock up Timmy. That won't be as easy as it looks, though. He'll want a lottttt of money

lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

iam brett favre
04-16-2012, 03:56 PM
^ Not true, Bumgarner is a beast.

Giants49ersUSC
04-16-2012, 04:00 PM
lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

You must have missed Game 4 of 2010 world series when he pitched against The Rangers at their park

RTL
04-16-2012, 04:04 PM
Giants signed LHP Madison Bumgarner to a five-year, $35 million contract extension with options for 2018 and 2019.
The guaranteed value of the deal will be bumped to $40 million if Bumgarner qualifies for Super Two status. The 22-year-old southpaw registered a sparkling 3.21 ERA and 191/46 K/BB ratio across 204 2/3 innings last season and should -- along with Matt Cain and perhaps Tim Lincecum -- provide stability over the next several years in the San Francisco rotation. This is the largest sum of money ever committed to a player with one-plus year of service time.

Great news and what I have wanted to hear all offseason!:clap: This is going to save the Giants millions of dollars and will help them budget in Lincecum if they do decide to re-sign him.

The X
04-16-2012, 04:05 PM
It really is true, no pitcher will ever again reach free agency.

shizzle09
04-16-2012, 04:11 PM
NICE!!! MADBUM in a Giants Uni for a long time. yeeee

Jeffy25
04-16-2012, 04:11 PM
^ no ace at least, which means the aces that do reach free agency will be paid an absolute ***-ton.

As a player, you want to get as close to arb as you can if you want to earn the most you can potentially throughout your career.

But security is far more important than getting that extra millions in the end.

Especially with pitchers injury likelihood

sexicano31
04-16-2012, 04:14 PM
lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

A 3.18 SIERA disagrees

Jeffy25
04-16-2012, 04:15 PM
lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

Actually, his awful defense hurt him last year.

He was a top 10 pitcher last year, NLW or not.

lol, please
04-16-2012, 04:20 PM
Love this deal. It's great for the Giants and great for Bumgarner!This.

northsider
04-16-2012, 04:20 PM
Damn good move by the Giants. It's a smart trend by teams but, sucks for the market.

T 980
04-16-2012, 04:25 PM
How much?

sexicano31
04-16-2012, 04:28 PM
How much?

$35mil. Turns to $40mil if he reaches super 2 status this year

Public Enemy #1
04-16-2012, 04:30 PM
Great news!

sixer04fan
04-16-2012, 04:37 PM
Bargain

1903
04-16-2012, 04:37 PM
lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

What? Check his home/road splits he plays great no matter where he is. Loads of talent and he is going to be a stud.

DodgerB24
04-16-2012, 04:53 PM
GOD DAMMIT WHY CANT IT BE COLE?!?!?!


/capslock

Cole wants to sign with L.A. Duh.

Great deal for the Giants.

Nymfan87
04-16-2012, 05:27 PM
Actually, his awful defense hurt him last year.

He was a top 10 pitcher last year, NLW or not.

Actually, the main difference between his FIP and ERA was his terribad start against the Twins where he gave up 8 runs in 0.1 innings with 0 walks, 1 K, and 0 HR's allowed. B-ref had him last year as having a +3 run defense behind him.

Burkey3472
04-16-2012, 05:50 PM
Great deal for both sides.

Lincecum4CY
04-16-2012, 05:53 PM
lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

lol

you're delusional

lol get a clue or dont post

lol

Iodine
04-16-2012, 05:55 PM
Trade him to the nats for J Lan please :)

Illa215
04-16-2012, 06:17 PM
He was a top ten starter last year, this is a major bargain.

What's going on with him this year, though? Swstrk% down a good bit, producing very low strikeout numbers. Is he going to revert back to low k numbers, or is this just early season struggles with command?

sf-fanatic
04-16-2012, 06:36 PM
He was a top ten starter last year, this is a major bargain.

What's going on with him this year, though? Swstrk% down a good bit, producing very low strikeout numbers. Is he going to revert back to low k numbers, or is this just early season struggles with command?

He got rocked in first start in Arizona. Next start he went no hitter into 7th at coors and threw a gem. He will settle down as will Timmy.

DerekRE_3
04-16-2012, 06:42 PM
He was a top ten starter last year, this is a major bargain.

What's going on with him this year, though? Swstrk% down a good bit, producing very low strikeout numbers. Is he going to revert back to low k numbers, or is this just early season struggles with command?

He's started 2 games....

Jeffy25
04-16-2012, 07:23 PM
Actually, the main difference between his FIP and ERA was his terribad start against the Twins where he gave up 8 runs in 0.1 innings with 0 walks, 1 K, and 0 HR's allowed. B-ref had him last year as having a +3 run defense behind him.

And in that game Miguel Tejada played short and made three terrible plays that a decent shortstop turns into outs. But they were scored as hits, even though they were weak ground balls to the shortstop.

Those 8 runs could have easily been 1 or 2, I remember watching that game and have posted about it a lot since then (this isn't randomly remembering a game). That bad start to that game wasn't his fault.

d79cheese
04-16-2012, 10:08 PM
The deal has two different structures, but this breakdown is assuming the 22-year-old left-hander doesnít reach Super Two status this offseason:

2013: $750,000
2014: $3.75 million
2015: $6.75 million
2016: $9.75 million
2017: $11.5 million

The deal includes a $1 million signing bonus and a $1.5 million buyout on either option, so he is guaranteed $35 million over the life of the contract. Thatís a record commitment for a player with less than two years of service time. He would be guaranteed $40 million if he qualifies as Super Two this winter, though that scenario appears unlikely at the moment.

The option years are worth $12 million each and include escalators. The first option will be guaranteed if Bumgarner throws 200 innings in 2017 or 400 innings between 2016-17. If he finishes in the top three of the Cy Young at any time, both options are $14 million. If he wins a Cy Young award, both options become $16 million.

Bumgarner could make a total of $70.5 million if he becomes a Super Two player this winter and maxes out on the two option years, but if it happens, chances are the Giants will be pretty pleased with the whole thing.

The contract also includes a limited no-trade clause which allows Bumgarner to pick eight teams each year where he cannot be dealt.

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SFGIANTSFAN32
04-16-2012, 10:44 PM
lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

Thats funny, cause if Bos had Madbum(22) he would probibly be their best and mot reliable pitcher, and if SF and Bos switched rotations, you guys would win your division, just saying

BKLYNpigeon
04-16-2012, 11:12 PM
Bumgardners Wife is a Heffer.

Mudvayne91
04-16-2012, 11:18 PM
This is most unfortunate for all other NL West teams, especially the Rockies. He has a crazy low era against us.

torgo1982
04-16-2012, 11:36 PM
dude. uncool talking about the dudes wife...i guarantee you wouldn't say that to his face.

Rush
04-17-2012, 02:06 AM
Bumgardners Wife is a Heffer.

Please don't ever spell his name that way again. If you weren't a Giants fan, you might get a pass, but you're a Giants fan. COME ON MAN!

lol, please
04-17-2012, 03:22 AM
Bumgardners Wife is a Heffer.

Please don't ever spell his name that way again. If you weren't a Giants fan, you might get a pass, but you're a Giants fan. COME ON MAN!:laugh2:

MotownWebGuy
04-17-2012, 09:08 AM
Moderator...
Why wasn't this thread moved to the Giants board?
What's the difference between this thread and the "Detroit Tigers Are Young" thread - which was moved?

1908_Cubs
04-17-2012, 09:13 AM
Moderator...
Why wasn't this thread moved to the Giants board?
What's the difference between this thread and the "Detroit Tigers Are Young" thread - which was moved?

This is news.

The "Tigers are Young" thread was not news. It was "hey, the Detroit Tigers have young players at a bunch of positions!".

Pretty clear.

sf-fanatic
04-17-2012, 09:26 AM
Moderator...
Why wasn't this thread moved to the Giants board?
What's the difference between this thread and the "Detroit Tigers Are Young" thread - which was moved?

:facepalm:

MotownWebGuy
04-17-2012, 12:01 PM
This is news.

The "Tigers are Young" thread was not news. It was "hey, the Detroit Tigers have young players at a bunch of positions!".

Pretty clear.
It is newsworthy. If it wasn't, places like fangraphs and people like Bill James would never discuss or graph it. It's rare to see a young team viewed as a playoffs perennial contender.
:facepalm:

RTL
04-17-2012, 12:03 PM
It is newsworthy. If it wasn't, places like fangraphs and people like Bill James would never discuss or graph it.
:facepalm:
Bill James saying or writing something isn't news either.

KingPosey
04-17-2012, 12:45 PM
lol

most of his success is due to playing in the NL and in that massive park. grats to him though

youre ****ing crazy and could never qualify that.

KingPosey
04-17-2012, 12:46 PM
Moderator...
Why wasn't this thread moved to the Giants board?
What's the difference between this thread and the "Detroit Tigers Are Young" thread - which was moved?

One is news and has a point.

BKLYNpigeon
04-17-2012, 01:15 PM
nice signing by the Giants, probably saved 20-30 million dollars through his arbitration years.

hopefully Buster is next.

Mitchell133
04-17-2012, 01:38 PM
Love this extension. Bumgarner has the potential to be the best lefty in the league and even if he's a top 5, still not overpaid by any means.