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2-ONE-5
04-16-2012, 02:32 PM
Read this article on the NBA on ESPN and thought it was pretty cool and could make for an interesting debate.

FIRST TEAM

Chris Paul, PG: Paul quickly emerged as the consensus Most Floppy Player. As this video from Daily Thunder’s Royce Young shows, Paul is truly a fantastic two-way talent. Graydon Gordian elaborates, “I think Royce's video demonstrated two really distinct things Chris Paul does: (a) He stops dead in his tracks, backs up into a player who's behind him and then falls forward, and (b) he maintains possession of the ball and/or makes a pass while going to the ground. He doesn't lose the ball when flopping, which lots of guys do.”

Raja Bell/Manu Ginobili, SG: Controversial decision to include both of them here, but really these two have given so much to the game. Manu with his whiplash-inducing head thrashes as he drives to the basket and Raja Bell with his ability to be thrown backwards by the slightest of contact. Here’s the Raja-Manu mixtape of floppery.

Paul Pierce, SF: Pierce is another two-way player who isn’t afraid to artistically embellish any contact (real or imagined) with a sometimes ludicrous flourish.

Luis Scola, PF: Battier put it best: “The more hair you have, the better. My boy Luis Scola, he’s got that long hair and when it gets sweaty and he starts flopping and flailing, it looks like he’s getting murdered out there.”

Ben Wallace, C: Writes Patrick Hayes of Piston Powered: "Wallace is adept at going for rebounds in heavy traffic, but he also uses that traffic to his advantage. If a shot is missed and he doesn't have a great angle to get to it, he's patented a move where he jumps forward and lurches his body while simultaneously letting out a loud 'OOOPH,' which over the years has pretty regularly convinced officials he was pushed in the back. Often, video evidence suggests otherwise. Wallace's artful flopping on rebound attempts has been just another valuable skill he's brought to the Pistons that doesn't show up in his stats. Oh, and don't ever mention to him that he flops ... he doesn't like that.”

SECOND TEAM

Rajon Rondo, PG: Rondo’s habit of throwing himself into a defender 50 feet from the hoop and firing off a prayer as time expires isn’t why he’s a celebrated flopper. It’s because, as Brendan Jackson of Celtics Hub noted, he’ll fall over as a defense mechanism whenever he gets in trouble with his dribble, especially along the baseline. (Also receiving votes: Tony Parker, Derek Fisher, Deron Williams, Chauncey Billups.)

Jamal Crawford, SG: A unique flopper, as Kevin Arnovitz explains, “There's a reason Jamal Crawford holds the all-time NBA record for 4-point plays. As the sharpshooter elevates and releases his shot, he'll gracefully hinge his hips forward, kick his legs into his defender and often land on his tuchus in the process.” (Also receiving votes: Dwyane Wade, James Harden, Kobe Bryant.)

Corey Maggette, SF: Ethan Sherwood Strauss paints us a picture of a typical Maggette flop: “Two dribbles hoop-ward and he’s already leaning for contact. It’s an offensive foul, or at least it would be were it not for Corey’s sleight of hand. Somehow this ball of muscles flies backward from the 'contact.' It’s a visual trick -- Maggette uses an off arm to redirect his body movement. The ball? That thing’s flying into the stands, chased by the sound waves of Corey’s wounded animal bleat.” (Also receiving votes: Kevin Durant, Vince Carter, Nicolas Batum.)

Dirk Nowitzki, PF: Dirk is a do-it-all flopper. He can flop while driving, shooting, playing defense and rebounding, perhaps the most underrated facet of his flop game. Dirk may never jump higher than when he’s flying away from a rebound after a “nudge” in the back. (Also receiving votes: Blake Griffin, Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan.)

Reggie Evans, C: Evans has a reputation as one of the dirtiest players in the NBA, but don’t try any of that stuff on him. Reggie can induce whistles with the best of them, but only while doing the only things he does well on the court: setting screens, rebounding and exchanging elbows under the rim. (Also receiving votes: Marc Gasol, JaVale McGee.)

boogie-reke
04-16-2012, 05:33 PM
Blake Griffin flops his head in disgust.

BallIsAll
04-16-2012, 06:04 PM
Blake #1 IMO

ManRam
04-16-2012, 06:12 PM
Yeah, I echo those sentiments too...Blake has to be on this. Even if he doesn't "flop" (he does), he embellishes literally every single chance he can.

Big Baby flops and goes down easier than any 250 pound player ever.

Varejao is notorious. Fisher, Kevin Martin and JJ Barea all stand out to me too.

Nick Collison is great at taking charges, but he's also great at selling them too. He walks the fine line.

Gators123
04-16-2012, 06:16 PM
Ben Wallace has always been an underrated flopper lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7xAVCOhepc

:laugh2:

ayuntalo
04-16-2012, 06:18 PM
sorry but no BLAKE GRIFFIN = FAIL

NFLNBA
04-16-2012, 06:27 PM
What really stood out to me besides Blake not being in this is a lot of these names are the NBA's best players. You take a guy with great talent and if he is a great actor/flopper he is a all-star lol

Bosh still holds the record for all time single worst flop in my books still

Public Enemy #1
04-16-2012, 06:44 PM
They can't let poster boy Griffin on this list....

NJBASEBALL22
04-16-2012, 06:45 PM
No Chris Bosh??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFMT88acHw

MonroeFAN
04-16-2012, 08:46 PM
Ben Wallace? I'm curious to hear the reasoning behind that choice.

Not saying it's that absurd, but seems like he should be behind some people. I mean, where is Anderson Varejao?

Cal827
04-16-2012, 08:49 PM
Javale Mcgee doesn't flop. He's just goes full-****** on most plays.

WVNowitzki
04-16-2012, 08:54 PM
Paul , Wade , Pierce , Griffin , Varejao. There, easy.

Avenged
04-16-2012, 08:58 PM
Metta is a solid flopper as well :p

TheWhiteMamba
04-16-2012, 09:12 PM
Where's Ginobili?



Nevermind i missed his name..

Rego247
04-16-2012, 09:16 PM
Javale Mcgee doesn't flop. He's just goes full-****** on most plays.

:laugh:

The goods
04-16-2012, 09:19 PM
Blake Griffin flops his head in disgust.

Haqhahahahahaha

The goods
04-16-2012, 09:22 PM
Kobe flops? I guess I haven't noticed it.

Ladies Man
04-16-2012, 09:24 PM
LeBron flops a lot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foaPMZxtzx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrBR_KPWVtE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL9074C8617D575659

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIkBjuVGbb4

Verbal Christ
04-16-2012, 09:26 PM
woo hoo a houston rocket made an "all" something team. pop champagne!!

Jarvo
04-16-2012, 09:32 PM
No Blake Griffin!?!!

SouthSideRookie
04-16-2012, 10:05 PM
woo hoo a houston rocket made an "all" something team. pop champagne!!

First team too! :cool:

InRoseWeTrust
04-16-2012, 11:01 PM
No Chris Bosh??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFMT88acHw

I remember watching this live. I was literally speechless. I called my wife in from another room so she could come witness history.

2-ONE-5
04-16-2012, 11:29 PM
i loved the quote from Battier about Scola. its easier to sell a flop with all that hair flopping around lol