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Machinehead
04-13-2012, 10:26 PM
Best al east outfielder

JermanJaysFan
04-13-2012, 10:33 PM
Seeing as one of these guys was voted the best player in the bigs in this very same forum like a week ago...

nirvana235
04-13-2012, 10:46 PM
Where the fap is Cody Ross?

Sweet_Caroline
04-13-2012, 10:48 PM
You didn't include MacDime (Darnell McDonald). So this thread is pointless.

Mitchell133
04-13-2012, 10:49 PM
Even if by some miracle you Yanks/BoSox fans managed to vote for your own player enough times, you STILL know who's the best and that is Jose Bautista.

oak2455
04-13-2012, 10:55 PM
the guys minus the stuff ;)

LongIslandIcedZ
04-14-2012, 12:12 PM
Gardner

Shamrock
04-14-2012, 12:14 PM
Nick Markakis is the best Defensive outfielder.

Jays Claw
04-14-2012, 12:17 PM
Nick Markakis is the best Defensive outfielder.

This.

By the way, what is the voting based on? Offense? Defense? Or overall talent?

scottythegreat1
04-14-2012, 01:57 PM
Jose Bautista. Im a Blue Jays fan, and its no homer pick

2 batting titles in 2 seasons in the MLB. Off to a slow start so far this season, he will rebound sooner or later.

Iodine
04-14-2012, 01:59 PM
^Joey bats has been in the MLB for more than 2 years......


But holy **** it's him.
Although if Andino played OF it would be close

Kenny Powders
04-14-2012, 02:27 PM
Bautista. By a mile

Shamrock
04-14-2012, 02:37 PM
Bautista is the best offensively.

1903
04-14-2012, 02:49 PM
OP needs to slow down with the poll threads.

mike_noodles
04-14-2012, 02:49 PM
I voted Ellsbury, even though I love Joey Bats. Ellsbury is miles better than Bautista in the field and much better on the base paths. If Ellsbury can prove his power from last year was real, he'd likely be the best outfielder in the whole AL.

******2017
04-14-2012, 03:01 PM
Ellsbury doesn't have the flashy home run numbers that Bautista does but he is definitely better overall.

avrpatsfan
04-14-2012, 03:10 PM
Jose Bautista is the best and it's not even close.

avrpatsfan
04-14-2012, 03:11 PM
Also, why the **** isn't Darnell McDonald on the list? He's 2nd to Bautista imo.

Iodine
04-14-2012, 04:47 PM
OP needs to slow down with the poll threads.

Wasnt he the one who made one for every position in the offseason and had bad lists and just went DONT COMPlAIN THIS IS MY LIST SO DEAL WITH IT

djak
04-14-2012, 06:10 PM
Brett Gardner is the best Defensive OF in the AL East.

CostanzaNumba0
04-14-2012, 06:15 PM
Nick Markakis is the best Defensive outfielder.

Gardner is, by far.

CostanzaNumba0
04-14-2012, 06:17 PM
I voted Ellsbury, even though I love Joey Bats. Ellsbury is miles better than Bautista in the field and much better on the base paths. If Ellsbury can prove his power from last year was real, he'd likely be the best outfielder in the whole AL.

I didn't vote for Ellsbury because he hasn't proven he can stay healthy, he's hurt again already this year

1903
04-14-2012, 07:01 PM
Wasnt he the one who made one for every position in the offseason and had bad lists and just went DONT COMPlAIN THIS IS MY LIST SO DEAL WITH IT

Yep.

LASportsFan1996
04-14-2012, 07:18 PM
Give Me Joey Bats

Pinstripe pride
04-16-2012, 08:55 AM
Nicholas Thompson Swisher

"Ace"ves
04-16-2012, 09:42 AM
Bautista... but i think its funny how hard Ellsbury was getting picks last year... all of a sudden an injury makes him not the best?

koldjerky
04-16-2012, 09:49 AM
All of a sudden an injury? The dude had an "all of a sudden" full healthy season last year. That's why. People thought he was finally healthy and showing his full potential.

The answer is dumbo.

ahoda
04-16-2012, 10:03 AM
Jose Bautista. Im a Blue Jays fan, and its no homer pick

2 batting titles in 2 seasons in the MLB. Off to a slow start so far this season, he will rebound sooner or later.


Batting title? When has he ever won a batting title?

Fly
04-16-2012, 10:06 AM
I voted Ellsbury, even though I love Joey Bats. Ellsbury is miles better than Bautista in the field and much better on the base paths. If Ellsbury can prove his power from last year was real, he'd likely be the best outfielder in the whole AL.

I voted Bautista, but I agree with this point. If Ellsbury can just stay healthy and post a season close to the one he had last year, he'd be the best easily

oak2455
04-16-2012, 10:11 AM
Give Me Joey Bats

Yeah

oak2455
04-16-2012, 10:13 AM
Joey n stuff

adab
04-16-2012, 10:30 AM
If we're talking defense exclusively, I'd have to say Colby Rasmus. The guy is a truely awesome defensive whizz.
If you're talking offense exclusively, I'd have to go with Jose Bautista. Untl he shows the last 2 years were a complete aberration rather than the result of a modification in his swing, he's now legitamitel a power threat every time he comes to the plate.
If you're considering a combination of defense and offense, them it's hard to argue with Jacoby Ellsbury. Great D, + power + BA+speed.

YankFan2013
04-16-2012, 06:20 PM
Okay I'm not going to lie, I hate Jose Bautista. How the hell do you go from hitting like 12 home runs a year to 40? Plus he isn't that good of a fielder or base runner. I have to give this one to Grandyman. It is close with Granderson and Ellisbury simply because they bring more to the table. Speed, great defense (argued the best in the MLB) and both hit with good contact and power. Bye Jose!

Iodine
04-16-2012, 06:46 PM
lol.

yankeefan54
04-16-2012, 06:50 PM
Nick Markakis is the best Defensive outfielder.

Not a chance brett gardner is byfar the best in the division if not the entire league

B'sCeltsPatsSox
04-16-2012, 07:03 PM
I like Joey Bats here.


I didn't vote for Ellsbury because he hasn't proven he can stay healthy, he's hurt again already this year

It's his fault that someone landed on his shoulder awkwardly while he was sliding into a base?

Kenny Powders
04-16-2012, 07:27 PM
Okay I'm not going to lie, I hate Jose Bautista. How the hell do you go from hitting like 12 home runs a year to 40? Plus he isn't that good of a fielder or base runner. I have to give this one to Grandyman. It is close with Granderson and Ellisbury simply because they bring more to the table. Speed, great defense (argued the best in the MLB) and both hit with good contact and power. Bye Jose!

Some Yankee fans have the most sound reasoning.

dannyh1469
04-17-2012, 04:42 AM
Adam "not pacman" jones

mtf
04-17-2012, 05:02 AM
Okay I'm not going to lie, I hate Jose Bautista. How the hell do you go from hitting like 12 home runs a year to 40? Plus he isn't that good of a fielder or base runner. I have to give this one to Grandyman. It is close with Granderson and Ellisbury simply because they bring more to the table. Speed, great defense (argued the best in the MLB) and both hit with good contact and power. Bye Jose!

He was consistently producing at least 15 home runs when he would get 400 plate appearances in a season, so there was always some power there.

But to answer your question he apparently had his production improved when Cito Gaston was brought in as the Manager of the Blue Jays and brought with him Dwayne Murphy as the hitting coach. They apparently worked with him to help him change his batting stance and change his approach at the plate to improve his consistency.

In that season (2009), he was put in as the starting third baseman late in the season, after Scott Rolen was traded to Cincinatti, and that's when the production started. He had 10 home runs and a .944 OPS in the month of September and continued to produce through 2010 and 2011.

I'm sure the explanation won't get you to stop hating him (and that wasn't the goal) but it should help to answer your question at the very least.

ahoda
04-17-2012, 06:42 AM
Okay I'm not going to lie, I hate Jose Bautista. How the hell do you go from hitting like 12 home runs a year to 40? Plus he isn't that good of a fielder or base runner. I have to give this one to Grandyman. It is close with Granderson and Ellisbury simply because they bring more to the table. Speed, great defense (argued the best in the MLB) and both hit with good contact and power. Bye Jose!


But when someone (AKA Granderson) averages 20 HRs a season and then hits 40 it's ok? :facepalm:

WolvesJagsOs
04-17-2012, 12:44 PM
^Joey bats has been in the MLB for more than 2 years......


But holy **** it's him.
Although if Andino played OF it would be close

Enough said.

Green_Monster
04-17-2012, 01:01 PM
1. Bautista
2. Ellsbury
3. Granderson

Green_Monster
04-17-2012, 01:03 PM
It's his fault that someone landed on his shoulder awkwardly while he was sliding into a base?

And had his own 3rd baseman break a few of his ribs. He just has bad luck.

Green_Monster
04-17-2012, 01:04 PM
Not a chance brett gardner is byfar the best in the division if not the entire league

:sigh:

miller74
04-17-2012, 01:23 PM
Gardner is, by far.

Are we forgetting Eric Thames??????

nycsports2
04-17-2012, 01:31 PM
Even if by some miracle you Yanks/BoSox fans managed to vote for your own player enough times, you STILL know who's the best and that is Jose Bautista.

i actually prefer grandy bc hes a more versatile player

the_jon
04-17-2012, 01:34 PM
Are we forgetting Eric Thames??????
Thames will win 12+ gold gloves

thapastime7
04-17-2012, 01:35 PM
the question is best outfielder not best player its is granderson not joey bats ...grandy range is off the charts

Mitchell133
04-17-2012, 01:36 PM
the question is best outfielder not best player its is granderson not joey bats ...grandy range is off the charts
Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up.

Curtis Granderson is better than Jose Bautista guys.

Sweet_Caroline
04-17-2012, 01:43 PM
I kind of looked at it as who would I most want to have on a one year contract for this year. Considering productivity, consistency and numbers that lead me to pick Bautista.

EricU812
04-17-2012, 02:13 PM
I voted Ellsbury, even though I love Joey Bats. Ellsbury is miles better than Bautista in the field and much better on the base paths. If Ellsbury can prove his power from last year was real, he'd likely be the best outfielder in the whole AL.

Not when Bautista is trotting around them.

Ellsbury could bunt, steal 2nd, steal 3rd, and then steal home. Most people would say "WOW...WHAT A PLAYER...A GAME CHANGER!" However, JB does it all in one swing.

I understand arguments like "baserunners can stretch D's out and open holes for other players etc..." However, thats still null when you consider how many batters in front of JB are getting fastballs down the middle, or how many times he gets walked to avoid the instant threat.

Now I will say that defensively...I have NO doubt that Ellsbury is better. Also, speed is the only aspect that helps both offensively and defensively.

But if I'm taking a player from last years teams I'm still going Bautista.

bljay29
04-17-2012, 03:02 PM
Jose Bautista and yes its a homer pick

todu82
04-17-2012, 03:04 PM
Jose Bautista.

es0terik
04-17-2012, 10:24 PM
Lol according to this poll, for every 7 posters on this forum, there is one Red Sox homer and one Yankee homer :)

stipe1280
04-17-2012, 10:46 PM
1) Bautista
2) Granderson
3) Ellsbury

dannyh1469
04-18-2012, 05:02 AM
All 3 of them are struggling this year and Adam jones is better this year so Adam jones

Super.
04-18-2012, 08:29 AM
You didn't include MacDime (Darnell McDonald). So this thread is pointless.

This


Even if by some miracle you Yanks/BoSox fans managed to vote for your own player enough times, you STILL know who's the best and that is Jose Bautista.

I'm a Sox fan who voted for Bautista

Ells is hurt anyways

jd25213
04-18-2012, 09:50 PM
I voted for Roidtista ;)

jd25213
04-18-2012, 09:52 PM
But when someone (AKA Granderson) averages 20 HRs a season and then hits 40 it's ok? :facepalm:

Or maybe because Yankee Stadium has a short right field porch :eyebrow:

mtf
04-18-2012, 10:21 PM
I voted for Roidtista ;)

I heard Jeter is a necrophiliac. There's no evidence to support that but hey, unfounded rumors are fun right? ;)

jd25213
04-19-2012, 11:02 PM
[QUOTE=jd25213;21823065]I heard Jeter is a necrophiliac. There's no evidence to support that but hey, unfounded rumors are fun right? ;)

I heard Brett Lawrie sleeps with a night-light:shrug:

oak2455
04-19-2012, 11:15 PM
Grandy what a night!!!!!!

phillipmike
04-20-2012, 12:23 AM
she's back

Who is she? She looks very familiar, WWE?

mtf
04-20-2012, 11:35 AM
I heard Brett Lawrie sleeps with a night-light:shrug:

Brett Lawrie doesn't sleep.

EVIL EMPIRE
04-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Offensively, its probably Bautista, but defensively the OF'er is not listed as an option to vote on. In fact, there are a few OF'ers that aren't listed, and that should be, considering they are all better than Bautista defensively.

Gardner
Markakis
Jones
Upton

These guys are all better than Bautista defensively, in my opinion. And I think the other 2 (Ellsbury, Granderson) that are listed are better than Bautista defensively.

BrianWestKins
04-23-2012, 05:18 PM
Eric Chavez

nirvana235
04-23-2012, 05:21 PM
Offensively, its probably Bautista, but defensively the OF'er is not listed as an option to vote on. In fact, there are a few OF'ers that aren't listed, and that should be, considering they are all better than Bautista defensively.

Gardner
Markakis
Jones
Upton

These guys are all better than Bautista defensively, in my opinion. And I think the other 2 (Ellsbury, Granderson) that are listed are better than Bautista defensively.

Man I thought BJ Upton was gonna be a superstar, pornstar name and had a very good season early in his career. He's still a very good player right now but if only he could just cut down his k totals he could be a MVP candidate.

EVIL EMPIRE
04-23-2012, 05:28 PM
Man I thought BJ Upton was gonna be a superstar, pornstar name and had a very good season early in his career. He's still a very good player right now but if only he could just cut down his k totals he could be a MVP candidate.

I'm only saying that Upton is better than Bautista, defensively.

I agree with some of the other things you said, but I fear that he really doesn't care. He's got a real bad attitude. At least I think so, and in my opinion that leads to not "being all he can be."

TeamStream25
04-24-2012, 05:59 PM
I voted Granderson. As a Yankee fan, why not. Grandyman is an all round great player.

mtf
04-24-2012, 06:03 PM
I voted Granderson. As a Yankee fan, why not. Grandyman is an all round great player.

They're all great players. The opinion poll was asking who is the best, not who has the most homers on this forum. It's hardly an interesting debate anyway, I'm just trying to clarify the question for you.