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Donuts365
04-13-2012, 03:35 PM
since amare coming back next week and melo playing like carmelo again can you see these two blend together the last few games and figure out a way to play dominant for the knicks to be able to succeed vs bulls or heat?

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 03:36 PM
no. I dont think so.

DaBear
04-13-2012, 03:36 PM
no

haggis
04-13-2012, 03:36 PM
No.

Ebbs
04-13-2012, 03:37 PM
Any given sunday, unlikely yea but they do have the talent to upset someone. (They have the best chance against bulls IMO.)

Donuts365
04-13-2012, 03:40 PM
i think they can upset bulls if they hang on to the 8th spot without lin and amare they give the bulls fits and match up perfectly with them. Heat maybe

DaBear
04-13-2012, 03:41 PM
They're going to get swept again.

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 03:42 PM
I think they can take at most one game off miami, and maybe 2 or 3 off chicago.

USMCLaker
04-13-2012, 03:42 PM
Yea, I think they can upset their fans if they don't make it to the second round.

Donuts365
04-13-2012, 03:42 PM
They're going to get swept again.

hahahaha.

DaBear
04-13-2012, 03:43 PM
hahahaha.

hahahahahahahahahahaa

Raph12
04-13-2012, 03:45 PM
As long as the Bulls keep Rose on the bench, they can win it all (see game last night). :p

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-13-2012, 03:53 PM
I think they can take at most one game off miami, and 2 off chicago.

this

AntiG
04-13-2012, 03:54 PM
Can they? of course. Will they? Probably not.

bucketss
04-13-2012, 03:55 PM
i hope they atleast win one game, they havent won a playoff game in like 10 years .

waveycrockett
04-13-2012, 03:55 PM
Not if Baron Davis is still their best PG

lvlheaded
04-13-2012, 03:56 PM
I love that the bulls and heat fans were very quick to say no :)

In reality they can, but most likely wont. They have a better chance to do so against Chicago than Miami

effen5
04-13-2012, 03:57 PM
No.

They don't play consistent basketball.

They would win 1 game at most by either team. I actually think they might be able to get 1 or 2 against Miami since one of Miamis bigger weaknesses is the center position.

Ronnie Turiaf...:laugh:

king4day
04-13-2012, 04:00 PM
I don't see them winning a round but I think they have a better shot against Chicago simply because of no Rose. I understand the Bulls have played very well without him but it's still not a better team with Rose on the bench.

But I see them taking a game from Miami and MAYBE 2 from the Bulls.

kobebabe
04-13-2012, 04:02 PM
how about add "NONE" to your poll along with "Fans"
Ofcourse they can cause an upset: to their fans...lol

seriously, NO! They can win a game or 2 but Upset? Nah

blastmasta26
04-13-2012, 04:06 PM
Neither one as of now. You need both Amare and Lin back, and you need to get them to play well together. Neither of which is the case.

Slimsim
04-13-2012, 04:14 PM
No

Maybe next year if we can keep the team together

uprightciti
04-13-2012, 04:14 PM
Yes!

smood999
04-13-2012, 04:20 PM
1999...

ayuntalo
04-13-2012, 04:23 PM
its crazy when people throw out that Knicks got swept like it was a lop sided series all through out.
FYI, the Knicks almost had it 2 games to none with games 3 and 4 being on MSG.
yes its not good enough and it's still a sweep, but lets not be hypocrite here thinking they were "no match" thats why they got swept

Revolu7i9n
04-13-2012, 04:23 PM
Well... I'm not even going to vote.

mjm07
04-13-2012, 04:25 PM
how about add "NONE" to your poll along with "Fans"
Ofcourse they can cause an upset: to their fans...lol

seriously, NO! They can win a game or 2 but Upset? Nah

This!

:clap:

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 04:27 PM
Better question is which team would the knicks fair better agasint, and for that i think they have a better chance vs. the bulls than the heat.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
04-13-2012, 04:29 PM
They're going to get swept again.

Bet? Loser deletes they're account.

gotoHcarolina52
04-13-2012, 04:33 PM
its crazy when people throw out that Knicks got swept like it was a lop sided series all through out.
FYI, the Knicks almost had it 2 games to none with games 3 and 4 being on MSG.
yes its not good enough and it's still a sweep, but lets not be hypocrite here thinking they were "no match" thats why they got swept

Agreed. That series was closer than the result indicates.

oak2455
04-13-2012, 04:33 PM
Miami they look lost

ayuntalo
04-13-2012, 04:36 PM
Better question is which team would the knicks fair better agasint, and for that i think they have a better chance vs. the bulls than the heat.

I am a Knicks fan but THIS IS JUST RIGHT ON.
Its not fair to ask "can the knicks upset someone" and then the poll questions is like forcing them pick a team that will be eliminated on the first round like it was a sure thing that the Knicks can beat one of them.

on another note, the OP is... :confused:

k.smith904
04-13-2012, 04:38 PM
they could possibly upset a sixers, pacers, hawks, magic team, but since they only managed (are still managing) to hang onto the 7th or 8th seed, they won't stand up to Chicago/Miami.

nycsports2
04-13-2012, 04:40 PM
Def especially if healthy they can upset either bulls or heat i dont think they will with the current roster but with amare and lin back it would be a huge boost

smood999
04-13-2012, 04:40 PM
to non knick fans...r the knicks with mike woodson instead of d'antoni a better team, if so how much better?

sample size is only 16 games...but during that 16 game stretch...11 games have been against teams in playoff contention...dont include the bucks and its 9 games against teams currently in the playoffs...theyve lost only 3 of those games...against the pacers which they blew out twice before and blew a 17 pt lead with 13 min left in the game, the bulls which they beat 2 nights prior and the hawks...

basically unlike the linsanity period, its quality teams..with a bunch of blow outs in there...just wondering what the consensus is on this...

ayuntalo
04-13-2012, 04:41 PM
Agreed. That series was closer than the result indicates.

thanks you. im glad some one is aware how the series really went :clap:

smood999
04-13-2012, 04:42 PM
they could possibly upset a sixers, pacers, hawks, magic team, but since they only managed (are still managing) to hang onto the 7th or 8th seed, they won't stand up to Chicago/Miami.

would it really be considered an upset against the sixers, pacers or hawks...im pretty sure even though they r a lower seed...theyd be the favorites to win...

smood999
04-13-2012, 04:44 PM
Agreed. That series was closer than the result indicates.

and that was with billups and amare hurt...if rose was out for a series, bulls fans would have tons of excuses....beginning of the season when the knicks beat the celtics most were using the excuse that pierce was out...dont get the double standard...

smood999
04-13-2012, 04:47 PM
Better question is which team would the knicks fair better agasint, and for that i think they have a better chance vs. the bulls than the heat.

thats probably what he/she was trying to get at...but ive been saying bulls since last yr...bulls r a good team but last yr they had an easy road to the ecf then lost in 5...they remind me of those magic teams a few yrs back...not in style but this team thats suppose to be great but all they did was beat up on teams they were suppose to and get dominated by teams they should be on par with...

ayuntalo
04-13-2012, 04:51 PM
and that was with billups and amare hurt...if rose was out for a series, bulls fans would have tons of excuses....beginning of the season when the knicks beat the celtics most were using the excuse that pierce was out...dont get the double standard...

to be fair, there are also A LOT of knicks fans who talks a lot of excuses and nonsense, so its not fair to stereo type and call out other fan base.
a lot of fan base has its own troll and good guys :nod:

smood999
04-13-2012, 04:54 PM
to be fair, there are also A LOT of knicks fans who talks a lot of excuses and nonsense, so its not fair to stereo type and call out other fan base.
a lot of fan base has its own troll and good guys :nod:

ur right...

smith&wesson
04-13-2012, 04:55 PM
If they were able to climb to the 6th spot and face the pacers it would be possible.

knicks4life33
04-13-2012, 05:01 PM
anythings possible

BSplaya2121
04-13-2012, 05:03 PM
Can they? of course. Will they? Probably not.

Best answer here

Donuts365
04-13-2012, 05:04 PM
to non knick fans...r the knicks with mike woodson instead of d'antoni a better team, if so how much better?

sample size is only 16 games...but during that 16 game stretch...11 games have been against teams in playoff contention...dont include the bucks and its 9 games against teams currently in the playoffs...theyve lost only 3 of those games...against the pacers which they blew out twice before and blew a 17 pt lead with 13 min left in the game, the bulls which they beat 2 nights prior and the hawks...

basically unlike the linsanity period, its quality teams..with a bunch of blow outs in there...just wondering what the consensus is on this...

10 times better defensively

Evolution23
04-13-2012, 05:12 PM
If Amare comes back 100% then its possible.

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 05:13 PM
your team is better without amare, melo at the 4 vs. the bulls is a good advantage for you guys.

Donuts365
04-13-2012, 05:15 PM
your team is better without amare, melo at the 4 vs. the bulls is a good advantage for you guys.

melo can score vs anybody but we need amare because right now hes our only offense

xk4
04-13-2012, 05:16 PM
Good offense can beat good defense in the regular season. But every team in the playoffs is going to put in more effort on D. You can't just magically increase your FG% with hustle, so the Knicks don't have a very good chance

They can pull an upset. But it's a longshot

KnicksR4Real
04-13-2012, 05:16 PM
The have the talent to but they won't be able to do it.

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 05:17 PM
melo can score vs anybody but we need amare because right now hes our only offense

No, you dont need amare. I bet your record without amare is better winning % than your record with amare. Especially considering you dont have a pg to set amare up, trust me, you dont want amare vs the bulls.

beasted86
04-13-2012, 05:23 PM
hahahaha.
hahahahahahahahahahaa

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah








:shrug:

jimm120
04-13-2012, 05:28 PM
i hope they atleast win one game, they havent won a playoff game in like 10 years .

that's more because they haven't MADE the playoffs, lol

k.smith904
04-13-2012, 05:44 PM
that's more because they haven't MADE the playoffs, lol

You say it like its a good excuse. :laugh2:

Donuts365
04-13-2012, 05:48 PM
You say it like its a good excuse. :laugh2:

lmao

JasonJohnHorn
04-13-2012, 05:55 PM
If they were the 6th or 5th seed, I'd say yes, but realisitcally, with no Lin and Amare, this Knicks team is going to struggle in a 7-game series. And even if eithr of them is back, this team still hasn't worked out their chemistry issues. NY fans are going to have to wait until next season to see what this team can do.

giants73756
04-13-2012, 05:56 PM
It's funny how all year everybody's been saying the Heat are better than the Bulls and records don't matter. Meanwhile the Bulls keep winning and the Heat keep losing. It's time to wake up, people. Just because the Heat upset the Bulls last year it doesn't mean they are the favorites to do so again.

jimm120
04-13-2012, 06:15 PM
You say it like its a good excuse. :laugh2:

lol, no. That's why I "lol'd" lol. I was pretty much saying that the comment was redundant really, because they've only had 2 playoff series in like 11 or 10 years.

k.smith904
04-13-2012, 06:18 PM
It's funny how all year everybody's been saying the Heat are better than the Bulls and records don't matter. Meanwhile the Bulls keep winning and the Heat keep losing. It's time to wake up, people. Just because the Heat upset the Bulls last year it doesn't mean they are the favorites to do so again.

It sounds so logical it makes me sick to my stomach.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
04-13-2012, 06:18 PM
Bet? Loser deletes they're account.

you cant delete your PSD account

Raidaz4Life
04-13-2012, 06:20 PM
It will be tough but I think its very possible. They create matchup problems with both teams by having Chandler defending the paint.

D1JM
04-13-2012, 06:22 PM
All about matchups. Thibs is a genius so once melo moves to the four, Thibs will adjust his lineup. He won't show his cards on a meaningless game.

Neosheed
04-13-2012, 06:36 PM
since amare coming back next week and melo playing like carmelo again can you see these two blend together the last few games and figure out a way to play dominant for the knicks to be able to succeed vs bulls or heat?

No.and we can tell ur a knicks fan cause you didn't even mentioned d rose being out and we still beat Yall

Donuts365
04-13-2012, 06:40 PM
that game was meaningless amare lin was out but we give your defense problem and picked it apart imo amare will be ready for playoffs not lin second rd if they get pass the first that is

5ass
04-13-2012, 06:51 PM
All about matchups. Thibs is a genius so once melo moves to the four, Thibs will adjust his lineup. He won't show his cards on a meaningless game.

Im curious to see how they handle it.
If i am woodson I would play shump-fields-jr-melo-tyson.
Shump can try to guard rose, deng is gonna try to guard melo.
This means boozer is gonna end up guarding jr or fields, and ny can exploit this mismatch. IMO thib will counter by taking boozer out and letting gibson guard melo so that whole series might depend greatly on gibsons play. Just my thoughts on what we might see.

5ass
04-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Btw i didnt watch the recent bulls v knicks game. Did thib have boozer or deng on melo? It should be deng

D1JM
04-13-2012, 07:03 PM
Im curious to see how they handle it.
If i am woodson I would play shump-fields-jr-melo-tyson.
Shump can try to guard rose, deng is gonna try to guard melo.
This means boozer is gonna end up guarding jr or fields, and ny can exploit this mismatch. IMO thib will counter by taking boozer out and letting gibson guard melo so that whole series might depend greatly on gibsons play. Just my thoughts on what we might see.

No. All it means is less boozer and/or gibson. Thibs has done it before.

Ladies Man
04-13-2012, 07:25 PM
No they can't. They will only win a game or two because Melo will shoot some lucky shots

Blitzbolt
04-13-2012, 07:27 PM
If the 3 is falling I got them beating the Bulls.

effen5
04-13-2012, 08:10 PM
If the 3 is falling I got them beating the Bulls.

A jump shooting team will not beat the Bulls.

Ezio
04-13-2012, 08:28 PM
A jump shooting team will not beat the Bulls.

Especially if they have no one to rebound the ball.

Hawkeye15
04-13-2012, 08:48 PM
The only ones they will upset if they draw the Heat or Bulls in round 1 is their fans. Sorry. They don't have the roster strength to compete with those 2 teams.

Shmontaine
04-13-2012, 10:09 PM
So it looks like the Knicks will face the heat. Tied in the loss column with Philly. And Philly is only going down. I don't like the Knicks chances any better than vs the bulls

nycericanguy
04-13-2012, 10:13 PM
So it looks like the Knicks will face the heat. Tied in the loss column with Philly. And Philly is only going down. I don't like the Knicks chances any better than vs the bulls

Howard is out the rest of the year, Knicks have a good shot to move to the #6. Maybe even the #4 if they can catch BOS.

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 10:15 PM
So it looks like the Knicks will face the heat. Tied in the loss column with Philly. And Philly is only going down. I don't like the Knicks chances any better than vs the bulls

They arent beating the heat, **** they will be lucky to get more than one game vs miami.

but with dwight out for 10 days, i think NY will grab the 6 seed and orlando will drop down to 7 maybe 8

oak2455
04-13-2012, 10:30 PM
wow wonder if the Knicks can get the 6 seed................

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 10:33 PM
wow wonder if the Knicks can get the 6 seed................

sure they can, dwight is out the rest of the season and have you seen orlandos schedule?

oak2455
04-13-2012, 10:40 PM
sure they can, dwight is out the rest of the season and have you seen orlandos schedule?

if he's really hurt could be huge in general.......hello Dwill:eyebrow: (meaning for the Mavs)

Quietmoney
04-13-2012, 10:51 PM
The Knicks at full health can beat any of these teams. I love how you guys think that what there doing now is a fluke. Y'all are gonna be in for rude awakening if they get Amare back at full health.

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 10:53 PM
The Knicks at full health can beat any of these teams. I love how you guys think that what there doing now is a fluke. Y'all are gonna be in for rude awakening if they get Amare back at full health.

Thats the best thing that could happen for your first round opponent

kdspurman
04-13-2012, 11:05 PM
I honestly think if the Knicks meet Miami, they will win that series. Especially with Lin out. He would not be able to carry them vs. Miami. Could see them winning in 6 or 7.

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 11:07 PM
I honestly think if the Knicks meet Miami, they will win that series. Especially with Lin out. He would not be able to carry them vs. Miami. Could see them winning in 6 or 7.
lol

kdspurman
04-13-2012, 11:12 PM
lol

Insightful response. :facepalm:

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 11:15 PM
Insightful response. :facepalm:

About as insightful as saying knicks would beat miami in 6

kdspurman
04-13-2012, 11:21 PM
About as insightful as saying knicks would beat miami in 6

Right cause Miami is unbeatable to you right? Shocking coming from a Heat fan. Everyone else sees their flaws. NY is a team that can exploit them

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 11:22 PM
Right cause Miami is unbeatable to you right? Shocking coming from a Heat fan. Everyone else sees their flaws. NY is a team that can exploit them

I dont think so. And who said miami is unbeatable? You would be in the minority of those thinking NY will upset miami.

kdspurman
04-13-2012, 11:35 PM
I dont think so. And who said miami is unbeatable? You would be in the minority of those thinking NY will upset miami.

Let's be real..... (I should've said in the East), you think they're unbeatable.

I don't care about being in the minority, from a basketball standpoint, I can see NY upsetting them. I'm not one of those people who believes in the magic "switch" that will come on during playoff time & I see no reason why their tired legs will be rejuvinated come playoffs.

Last years Knicks? No way. But this year they are vastly improved defensively, and literally Miami's 3 main guys need to play flawlessly. NY At least has a bench that can spark the offense and hit shots. Are they sometimes bad shots? Sure, but they are certainly more aggressive and effective than Miami's bench who is in the bottom 5 in terms of production.

And Lebron won't shut down Melo like he can do to like a Derrick Rose. Those 2 go at it, and Melo will welcome the pressure. They have a certain swag to them that would give Miami fits. Not to mention Chandlers presence. How effective would Bosh even be if he defends him? Cause there's no need to guard Miami's centers.

I've seen you post a lot and I know you get all sensitive/touchy with Miami, and understandable as we're all fans. But I think NY matches up just fine with them, which is why most Heat fans want Philly...

Just my 2 cents

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 11:38 PM
Heat fans want philly because we have beat them 15 of the last 16 times. I respect your opinion, i disagree with it, but its your opinion.

We match up just fine with NY and i look forward to seeing them in the 2nd round(i think they will get the 6th seed with dwight out)

xxplayerxx23
04-13-2012, 11:38 PM
tbh I think the knicks would give miami trouble, but I think miami would win in 6, Gotta root to get indy to have a shot at the second round

kdspurman
04-13-2012, 11:41 PM
Heat fans want philly because we have beat them 15 of the last 16 times. I respect your opinion, i disagree with it, but its your opinion.

We match up just fine with NY and i look forward to seeing them in the 2nd round(i think they will get the 6th seed with dwight out)

:cheers:

xxplayerxx23
04-13-2012, 11:41 PM
Heat fans want philly because we have beat them 15 of the last 16 times. I respect your opinion, i disagree with it, but its your opinion.

We match up just fine with NY and i look forward to seeing them in the 2nd round(i think they will get the 6th seed with dwight out)

A heathy ny team gives the most matchup problems to the heat, not saying we would win but look at it this way, Amare and bosh cancle each other out, amare always brings his game defenseivly and does soild, Melo gives lebron fits on the defensive end, wade can take the series over but with Iman and chandler back there for help maybe he gets contained a little bit, Knicks bench also might have the edge over miami, I still say heat in 6 but the matchups would be fun to watch

justinnum1
04-13-2012, 11:44 PM
A heathy ny team gives the most matchup problems to the heat, not saying we would win but look at it this way, Amare and bosh cancle each other out, amare always brings his game defenseivly and does soild, Melo gives lebron fits on the defensive end, wade can take the series over but with Iman and chandler back there for help maybe he gets contained a little bit, Knicks bench also might have the edge over miami, I still say heat in 6 but the matchups would be fun to watch

Your team is worse with amare.

xxplayerxx23
04-13-2012, 11:47 PM
Your team is worse with amare.

this is what everyone said with melo, No we arent, Amare gives a second opition there will have to be less double on melo, He makes us worse defesnivley, but he was also picking it up there before he got hurt, either way we need to vs indy

TeamSeattle
04-13-2012, 11:58 PM
no

You and Jon Barry must be friends

BKLYNpigeon
04-14-2012, 12:11 AM
The Knicks can make a upset in the playoffs if they can take the Sixers to 7 games.

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 12:12 AM
this is what everyone said with melo, No we arent, Amare gives a second opition there will have to be less double on melo, He makes us worse defesnivley, but he was also picking it up there before he got hurt, either way we need to vs indy

Mimai doesnt need to double melo, and we know what kind of fits anthony can give amare

oak2455
04-14-2012, 12:15 AM
Mimai doesnt need to double melo, and we know what kind of fits anthony can give amare

are they good:p is he good??? lol

VillaMaravilla
04-14-2012, 12:17 AM
They're going to get swept again.

im willing to sig bet you if we face the Bulls we take you guys out of the playoffs? you down or just bla bla bla!

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 12:17 AM
My spelling is just horrible:facepalm:

VillaMaravilla
04-14-2012, 12:19 AM
Your team is worse with amare.

you think do you even watch Knick games? as it stands right now we will be facing your team of overpriced chokers.....get ready you or the Bulls whatever overated team we face

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 12:23 AM
you think do you even watch Knick games? as it stands right now we will be facing your team of overpriced chokers.....get ready you or the Bulls whatever overated team we face

:ohno:

And yes, i do think the knicks are worse with amare. Your big advantage right now is melo at the 4, with amare your D will suffer and it just adds another chucker to the mix. If you do face miami in the first round i hope amare plays, **** let lin play too:laugh2:

oak2455
04-14-2012, 12:50 AM
wow last 8... 4-4 could they be tired???

Donuts365
04-14-2012, 12:53 AM
i wonder how orlando will do with the rest of their shedule 91 shots vs hawks in a blowout is just ridiculous

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 12:54 AM
tired waiting for the playoffs to start;)

whoever gets orlando in the first round is basically getting a bi

njnets
04-14-2012, 12:06 PM
i can see it happening against the bulls, not the heat though.

not saying it is easy at all and that it will happen. i think that the knicks talent matches up better with the bulls. chicago is still the better team and it would be their series to lose.

Kenny
04-14-2012, 12:27 PM
:ohno:

And yes, i do think the knicks are worse with amare. Your big advantage right now is melo at the 4, with amare your D will suffer and it just adds another chucker to the mix. If you do face miami in the first round i hope amare plays, **** let lin play too:laugh2:

How the hell are you a chucker when for your career you shoot over 53 percent. Yeah it's not like Melo hasn't been dominating at the 3 his whole career. The whole 3 or 4 thing is so over blown with a lot of times the teams are cross matching anyways.

People are so quick to dismiss players

Jarvo
04-14-2012, 01:07 PM
Can they? of course. Will they? Probably not.

This. If they play the bulls it will go down to the wire I think because I just have a feeling they can upset them, The heat I think they can get one game in.

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 01:47 PM
How the hell are you a chucker when for your career you shoot over 53 percent. Yeah it's not like Melo hasn't been dominating at the 3 his whole career. The whole 3 or 4 thing is so over blown with a lot of times the teams are cross matching anyways.

People are so quick to dismiss players

He isnt shooting over 50% this year, and he has basically turned into an extremely overpaid jump shooter

some stats for you.

Between 3-23 feet he attempts 8 shots a game, on 33% shooting. at the rim he;s much better but he chucks up mid range shots with a horrible efficiency.

If you dont see the matchup advantage your team has with melo at the 4, then there isnt much else to be said.

I do think the knicks have a better chance going agasint the bulls, agasint the heat tho i think the series would be over pretty quickly

JCmasta
04-14-2012, 02:00 PM
since amare coming back next week and melo playing like carmelo again can you see these two blend together the last few games and figure out a way to play dominant for the knicks to be able to succeed vs bulls or heat?

Knicks vs Heat needs to happen, but it probably won't. The Heat are reeling and the Knicks could probably take them in 6 or 7, the meltdowns would be glorious.

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 02:01 PM
Pass that over here

PHX2daDEATH
04-14-2012, 02:12 PM
seems like everyone expects Miami to get out of their funk the minute they say its Playoff time? Look, Wade hasn't been healthy all year.. Bosh is soft as ever and Le'Bron..well he proved to all of us he's not a clutch player AGAIN the other night in Chicago..if I'm Miami I don't want to play the Knicks..Amare or No Amare.. Lin or No Lin.. Everyone Forgets Tyson Chandler.. They forget Carmelo is playing like a mad man..not saying the Knicks would win the Series but damn it I'm a realist who loves this Rivalry and i know anything can happen when these two teams meet regardless of seedings..

meloman1592
04-14-2012, 02:15 PM
I love how quickly the Knicks get bashed in threads. Makes winning in the playoffs that much sweeter

Forever35
04-14-2012, 02:17 PM
Woodson has NY playing defense which is always the key during the playoffs...

I could definitely see NY upsetting Chicago, and as far as Miami, if Woodson can get NY to slow down the pace of play and make it a half court game, the Heat could have their hands full...

Bubba313
04-14-2012, 02:22 PM
The problem with playing Miami, more so than Chicago, is that the Knicks turn the ball over way too much. Turning the ball over against Miami is basically giving them two points every single time. Whereas if the Knicks played Chicago, the main issue would be defensive rebounding.

Since rebounding is much more fixable than turnovers, especially without Lin, I would much rather play Chicago

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 02:30 PM
The problem with playing Miami, more so than Chicago, is that the Knicks turn the ball over way too much. Turning the ball over against Miami is basically giving them two points every single time. Whereas if the Knicks played Chicago, the main issue would be defensive rebounding.

Since rebounding is much more fixable than turnovers, especially without Lin, I would much rather play Chicago

good point with the turnovers

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 02:31 PM
seems like everyone expects Miami to get out of their funk the minute they say its Playoff time? Look, Wade hasn't been healthy all year.. Bosh is soft as ever and Le'Bron..well he proved to all of us he's not a clutch player AGAIN the other night in Chicago..if I'm Miami I don't want to play the Knicks..Amare or No Amare.. Lin or No Lin.. Everyone Forgets Tyson Chandler.. They forget Carmelo is playing like a mad man..not saying the Knicks would win the Series but damn it I'm a realist who loves this Rivalry and i know anything can happen when these two teams meet regardless of seedings..

I cant wait to play the knicks, id rather play philly since we own them but knicks would be a fairly easy series too

Forever35
04-14-2012, 02:36 PM
The problem with playing Miami, more so than Chicago, is that the Knicks turn the ball over way too much. Turning the ball over against Miami is basically giving them two points every single time. Whereas if the Knicks played Chicago, the main issue would be defensive rebounding.

Since rebounding is much more fixable than turnovers, especially without Lin, I would much rather play Chicago

I actually think NY's TO #'s have been getting better under Woodson... He has them slowing the game down, not D'Antoni's chicken without a head offense... That's why he was pretty successful in Atl, he got a very young team to play together and stay under control...

If NY gets bumped in the 1st round, Woodson should definitely be brought back because I can see the NY style of ball coming back...

This is coming from a Boston fan who lives in NY...

R0W
04-14-2012, 07:46 PM
If knicks can make it to the 6th seed and face the pacers. They will have enough time to get lin back if they make it out of the first round which is very likely.

TylerSL
04-14-2012, 07:55 PM
The Knicks dont have a chance. I dont know why 41 people voted Knicks could upset the Bulls. Bulls would destroy them, and it isnt close.

R0W
04-14-2012, 07:58 PM
The Knicks dont have a chance. I dont know why 41 people voted Knicks could upset the Bulls. Bulls would destroy them, and it isnt close.

I hope the knicks play the heat so it can be 1999 all over again.

TylerSL
04-14-2012, 08:02 PM
I hope the knicks play the heat so it can be 1999 all over again.

The Knicks have the talent to accomplish this. Its their style of play that keeps them always mediocre. Just like when the Knicks beat the Bulls. They were down 2 so Melo jacks up a contested 3. Sure that went in and the Knicks won, but that right there is why they will go nowhere. That kind of shot will not go in 4 times in a 7 game series. Thats not how you win consistently. The Knicks refuse to change their style so they will never beat a team like Miami or Chicago as they are now.

R0W
04-14-2012, 08:07 PM
The Knicks have the talent to accomplish this. Its their style of play that keeps them always mediocre. Just like when the Knicks beat the Bulls. They were down 2 so Melo jacks up a contested 3. Sure that went in and the Knicks won, but that right there is why they will go nowhere. That kind of shot will not go in 4 times in a 7 game series. Thats not how you win consistently. The Knicks refuse to change their style so they will never beat a team like Miami or Chicago as they are now.

Good Point but the knicks are getting stat back for the playoffs so he most likley will come off the bench for chandler and still keep melo at the 4 its going to be a match up nightmare for whoever they are playing. they should just hope that they can get rebounds.

TylerSL
04-14-2012, 08:10 PM
Good Point but the knicks are getting stat back for the playoffs so he most likley will come off the bench for chandler and still keep melo at the 4 its going to be a match up nightmare for whoever they are playing. they should just hope that they can get rebounds.

See I dont try to hate on the Knicks, but they are so frustrating to watch. If they would play the game the right way they could win a championship or shock the league with their play much like what Chicago did last year. Who would have thought the Bulls would end up with the 1 seed last year? The Knicks could do the same thing if they wanted too. They could still turn their season around in the last 3 weeks of the season and prove me wrong, but I somewhat doubt it.

R0W
04-14-2012, 08:17 PM
See I dont try to hate on the Knicks, but they are so frustrating to watch. If they would play the game the right way they could win a championship or shock the league with their play much like what Chicago did last year. Who would have thought the Bulls would end up with the 1 seed last year? The Knicks could do the same thing if they wanted too. They could still turn their season around in the last 3 weeks of the season and prove me wrong, but I somewhat doubt it.

Yea its frustrating when i see them, they dont box out and give up the ball on unforced turnover. But melo is doing a good job on the iso but if he is missing he should just give up the ball.

THE MTL
04-14-2012, 08:19 PM
We can upset the Bulls as long as we have Amare and rest of the team is healthy.

Miami, at most we take a game or two. I want NO PART of Lebron James in the playoffs (at least not until the NBA Finals ;) lol)

justinnum1
04-14-2012, 08:22 PM
We can upset the Bulls as long as we have Amare and rest of the team is healthy.

Miami, at most we take a game or two. I want NO PART of Lebron James in the playoffs (at least not until the NBA Finals ;) lol)

Fair enough.

ManRam
04-14-2012, 08:25 PM
Can they? Sure...there have been bigger upsets before.

Will they? Doubt it.

Evolution23
04-15-2012, 03:06 AM
Need Amare back.

meloman1592
04-15-2012, 03:19 AM
To be honest, I believe out of seeds 3-8, NY or Boston have the best chance to take out mia or chi. However, I don't wanna see either round 1

R0W
04-15-2012, 03:23 AM
I think the title is up for grabs for the 1-6 seeds on both conferences.