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StealingSigns
04-11-2012, 07:31 PM
Baltimore Orioles

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VS

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Toronto Blue Jays

April 13-15

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Rogers Centre


Friday, April 13, 7:07 PM ET

http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/default_bal.jpg vs http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_453344.jpg
TBA...........Brandon Morrow
..................0-0 0.00 ERA

Morrow allowed just one hit and two unearned runs over seven innings in his first start of the season against Cleveland. The righty is 2-2 with a 4.46 ERA over 12 career starts against the Orioles.


Saturday, April 14, 4:07 PM ET

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TBA.............Henderson Alvarez
......................0-0, 1.50 ERA

Alvarez allowed just one run on four hits during his last start against Boston. His only mistake was a 2-2 pitch that Dustin Pedroia sent over the wall in left-center field. Alvarez now has seven quality starts in just 11 big league outings.


Sunday, April 15, 1:07 PM ET

http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/default_bal.jpg vs http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_475138.jpg
TBA.................Kyle Drabek
....................1-0, 1.69 ERA

Drabek tossed 5 1/3 innings of one-run ball against the Red Sox to earn the victory in his first start of the season. The 24-year-old, who will face the Orioles next, has faced Baltimore twice in his career and is 0-1, with a 3.86 ERA.



O's, Blue Jays ready to renew AL East rivalry


One constant for the Blue Jays over the past near-decade has been their success against the division-foe Orioles.

When the two clubs meet for the first time this season on Friday night at the Rogers Centre, Baltimore will be looking to start off on the right foot as it attempts to win its first season series against Toronto since 2004. The Orioles went 11-8 against the Blue Jays that season, but they have since posted a 49-79 record, including a 9-27 mark over the past two seasons.

Winning the 2012 series opener won't be an easy task for the Orioles, as Toronto will send Brandon Morrow to the mound. The flamethrower is fresh off a seven-inning, one-hit season debut against Cleveland. The only hit Morrow allowed in that start was a two-run fifth-inning homer by Jason Kipnis after a two-out error allowed the inning to continue.

Though Morrow's overpowering debut might have been overshadowed by the Blue Jays' 12-inning victory, it certainly wasn't lost on Indians manager Manny Acta.

"Brandon Morrow is one of the toughest guys in the American League," Acta said after the game. "He's got elite stuff. When he's around the plate and he pitches ahead, he's as tough as any one of those guys that have big names. He was able to do that today. He was tough."

As for Baltimore, the O's will counter with right-hander Tommy Hunter, who turned in an impressive debut of his own on Saturday. The 25-year-old tossed seven innings and allowed just two unearned runs en route to a victory over the Twins.

Hunter, who left the game in the eighth inning to a standing ovation from the home crowd, wasn't too eager to talk about his solid outing after the game, though. Instead, his focus had already shifted to Friday's showdown with the nemesis Blue Jays.

"I got 33, 34 more starts, I hope," Hunter said. "After that, we'll look back and see how it is."

Orioles: Wieters off to hot start
For the second straight season, catcher Matt Wieters has jumped out to a strong start, belting two homers in the club's first five games.

Wieters, a career .266 hitter, was hitting .353 this season entering Wednesday night's finale against the Yankees. Now in his fourth season, the 25-year-old is batting .279 in the month of April for his career.

"Fortunately, toward the end of [Spring Training], I felt good," said Wieters, who slugged four homers in the season's opening month last year. "It's always a good point to get going toward the end of Spring Training and get ready for the year."

Blue Jays: Bautista continues slow start
Two-time defending home run champion Jose Bautista continued his early-season struggles Wednesday, failing to record a hit for the third straight game.

Manager John Farrell said before Wednesday's game that he isn't worried, despite Bautista going just 1-for-19 since recording three hits, including a homer, on Opening Day.

"He's struggled to find his timing," Farrell said. "We've all been accustomed to seeing Jose just continue to hit balls in the seats. But there were times last year, and I'm sure the year before, where he goes through some stretches where his timing is off a little bit."

Worth noting
J.P. Arencibia and Bautista are a combined 4-for-27 (.148) with six strikeouts and no home runs in their careers against Hunter.

J.J. Hardy has homered in two of his three career at-bats against Morrow.

Toronto outscored Baltimore 97-75 in the teams' 18 meetings last season.

StealingSigns
04-11-2012, 07:33 PM
I'll update the Orioles starters when they are posted. I have a pretty good idea, but won't post them until it is official.

Abdul Mutalib
04-11-2012, 07:36 PM
OH NO, not another 1 lol hope we can dominate the o's like we have last 2 yrs... interesting 2 c how alvarez and drabek will progress in the 2nd starts, particularly drabek.

Toxeryll
04-11-2012, 07:38 PM
Im confident well win the first two . Hopefully Drabek continues to pitch well.

Converged
04-11-2012, 07:39 PM
We have owned the Orioles the last few years and we have some talented throwers on the mound. I can definitely see a sweep if the bats stay consistent.

the_jon
04-11-2012, 08:11 PM
I voted sweep. That's probably a tad optimistic but I'm confident we win the first two at least. If all three pitch like they did in Boston, sweep is very reasonable.

Sanyo
04-11-2012, 08:12 PM
Orioles are doing well against CC today, made him throw 50 pitches in 2 innings, 2-2 tie, O's left the bases loaded.

the_jon
04-11-2012, 08:23 PM
Looking like the matchups will be:

Tommy Hunter vs. Brandon Morrow

Jason Hammel vs. Henderson Alvarez

Brian Matusz vs. Kyle Drabek


Really like those matchups for us. Was hoping to see Bruce Chen but none of these three guys really scare me.

Farsight
04-11-2012, 08:27 PM
I love our starters ERA... Its really sexy ;)

Durkan
04-11-2012, 08:31 PM
Yepp, if we continue to see the stuff that we saw from all three starters, we likely will get the sweep. I voted 2/3 for the Jays cause I just can't be an unbridled optimist yet :p

Edit: Speaking of C.C. 74 pitches in 3.0 innings... Ouch....

Bob Loblaw
04-11-2012, 09:01 PM
Looking like the matchups will be:

Tommy Hunter vs. Brandon Morrow

Jason Hammel vs. Henderson Alvarez

Brian Matusz vs. Kyle Drabek


Really like those matchups for us. Was hoping to see Bruce Chen but none of these three guys really scare me.

Pretty sure he resigned in KC

jamjar
04-11-2012, 09:08 PM
i expect nothing less of a sweep

the_jon
04-11-2012, 09:08 PM
Pretty sure he resigned in KC
Oh.My.God.

I just saw 'Chen' on yesterdays boxscore and thought it was Bruce Chen. It's Wei-Yin Chen but still I wouldn't mind seeing him. :D

Bob Loblaw
04-11-2012, 09:17 PM
Oh.My.God.

I just saw 'Chen' on yesterdays boxscore and thought it was Bruce Chen. It's Wei-Yin Chen but still I wouldn't mind seeing him. :D

he probably wouldnt dominate us like Bruce did last year lol

boms-4
04-11-2012, 09:18 PM
I wanna say Jays take all 3, but the O's are playing some good baseball right now.

StealingSigns
04-11-2012, 09:21 PM
I wanna say Jays take all 3, but the O's are playing some good baseball right now.

Yep, they have some nice starting pitching to start the season. The O's will probably suck later on in the season (they historically have started out stronger than they have finished in recent years) but they can't be taken for granted right now.

Sanyo
04-11-2012, 09:22 PM
Wait till the the Bundy's come up, gonna be a totally different club. If they get Lucas Giolito in the draft, that could be a 1,2 powerhouse (Dylan and Lucas).

StealingSigns
04-11-2012, 09:24 PM
Wait till the the Bundy's come up, gonna be a totally different club. If they get Lucas Giolito in the draft, that could be a 1,2 powerhouse (Dylan and Lucas).

Maybe, but the O's are just so unlucky (and stupid).

Kinglorious
04-11-2012, 09:28 PM
If we can just keep taking 2 of 3 games we'll be in good shape lol.

DwayneMVPwade
04-11-2012, 09:36 PM
Hopefully Bautista heats up

Bob Loblaw
04-11-2012, 10:01 PM
Hopefully Bautista heats up

This.

Lind should be big this series as he usually hammers O's pitching

Krylian
04-11-2012, 10:46 PM
2 out of 3.

On paper everyone should sweep the O's...but even the worst teams win almost 60 games a year.

2009mvp
04-11-2012, 10:55 PM
Back to back extra inning games for them in the Bronx tonight, hopefully the pen is nice and spent for the trip to Toronto.

scottythegreat1
04-11-2012, 10:57 PM
The Os are at their best in the first month of the season, so Im not expecting an easy sweep, but a sweep nonetheless.

DeRozan10
04-11-2012, 10:57 PM
Back to back extra inning games for them in the Bronx tonight, hopefully the pen is nice and spent for the trip to Toronto.

Dang! For some reason I thought we were playing in Baltimore.

Things are looking good for the Jays this series!

Twitchy
04-11-2012, 11:22 PM
Wait till the the Bundy's come up, gonna be a totally different club. If they get Lucas Giolito in the draft, that could be a 1,2 powerhouse (Dylan and Lucas).

I'll believe it when I see it. I've heard the same stuff about Tillman, Loewen, Matsuz, Daniel Cabrera and a dozen other Orioles prospects. When they actually pan out as above average pitchers, let me know.

I figure Matsuz will turn it around, but you get the idea.

AK-50
04-11-2012, 11:26 PM
we should have the sweep

statquo
04-11-2012, 11:28 PM
#sweeptheorioles

bomber0104
04-11-2012, 11:44 PM
If we can just keep taking 2 of 3 games we'll be in good shape lol.

yup thats 90+ wins

bomber0104
04-11-2012, 11:48 PM
well they just got swept by the Yankees at home

StealingSigns
04-11-2012, 11:51 PM
well they just got swept by the Yankees at home

Don't mean ****. The Yankees are a top team.

The Jays will have their hands full with the O's this series.

nithanyo
04-12-2012, 12:26 AM
I really want Bautista to break out of his slump.

WhatSayYou
04-12-2012, 01:27 AM
I am upset after nucks game, give me some positive vibes

statquo
04-12-2012, 02:03 AM
I am upset after nucks game, give me some positive vibes

The Kings are up 1-0 on the canucks.

Toxeryll
04-12-2012, 02:21 AM
if i recall correctly, bautista struggled against O's pitching last year. hopefully, he breaks out this series

Toxeryll
04-12-2012, 02:22 AM
if i recall correctly, bautista struggled against O's pitching last year. hopefully, he breaks out this series

Farsight
04-12-2012, 02:22 AM
I am upset after nucks game, give me some positive vibesHonestly, i loved hockey as a child in my youth. I participated in both hockey and baseball leagues as a child, and at high levels... But hockey takes a back seat to baseball for me to be quiet honest. This country is so hockey centric that im getting sick of it. You know there is something wrong when hockey gets more coverage in their off season on TSN than baseball does during their season lol.

Dont get me wrong, i still love and enjoy it (as i will continue to watch playoff games) but knowing baseball has started again cheers me up in such a tumultuous period when i have 5 exams in the next 2 weeks.

Well thats my rant about hockey lol :p

bomber0104
04-12-2012, 02:35 AM
Honestly, i loved hockey as a child in my youth. I participated in both hockey and baseball leagues as a child, and at high levels... But hockey takes a back seat to baseball for me to be quiet honest. This country is so hockey centric that im getting sick of it. You know there is something wrong when hockey gets more coverage in their off season on TSN than baseball does during their season lol.

Dont get me wrong, i still love and enjoy it (as i will continue to watch playoff games) but knowing baseball has started again cheers me up in such a tumultuous period when i have 5 exams in the next 2 weeks.

Well thats my rant about hockey lol :p

I get into hockey the moment the Leafs season starts and until they inevitably fall out of the race.. After that, I couldn't give a ****. Playoffs hockey is exciting but i dont care much for it if my team isn't playing

WhatSayYou
04-12-2012, 02:58 AM
Honestly, i loved hockey as a child in my youth. I participated in both hockey and baseball leagues as a child, and at high levels... But hockey takes a back seat to baseball for me to be quiet honest. This country is so hockey centric that im getting sick of it. You know there is something wrong when hockey gets more coverage in their off season on TSN than baseball does during their season lol.

Dont get me wrong, i still love and enjoy it (as i will continue to watch playoff games) but knowing baseball has started again cheers me up in such a tumultuous period when i have 5 exams in the next 2 weeks.

Well thats my rant about hockey lol :p

I agree it can be nauseating, expecially here in Vancouver where it gets shoved in my face (not to mention Canuck fans are the worst). But at the end of the day I love the sport and the team, and Im not going to let media or fans ruin it for me :)

fatkev78
04-12-2012, 03:01 AM
Going to the games on Sat & Sun....looking forward to seeing Alvarez & Drabek pitch.
Win or lose this team should be fun to watch no matter who they are playing.

es0terik
04-12-2012, 03:01 AM
if i recall correctly, bautista struggled against O's pitching last year. hopefully, he breaks out this series

Yes Bautista's worst offensive numbers against any team come against the Orioles.

Btw the Boston Herald wrote a story today about how Daniel Bard needs to "Borrow from Morrow".

The link that I read the article at is suddenly not working so I'll post it tomorrow if it comes back around.

mtf
04-12-2012, 04:58 AM
Btw the Boston Herald wrote a story today about how Daniel Bard needs to "Borrow from Morrow".

here you go...
LINK: Borrow from Morrow (http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view/20220412borrow_from_morrow_jay_goodexamplefor_bard/srvc=sports&position=recent_bullet)

will_87
04-12-2012, 08:47 AM
I say Jays take 2/3 from the Orioles. I hope to get to tomorrow's game. I've never seen Morrow live.

ILDD
04-12-2012, 08:51 AM
I went for a sweep, maybe that's a bit too optimistic but I really like our starting 4 pitchers right now.

AA09-?
04-12-2012, 09:06 AM
I think we could sweep them but 2 out of 3 is more realistic. The O's aren't playing bad ball right now

AA09-?
04-12-2012, 09:07 AM
Let's hope the starters keep us in games and our bats come alive.

adid727
04-12-2012, 10:28 AM
• J.P. Arencibia and Bautista are a combined 4-for-27 (.148) with six strikeouts and no home runs in their careers against Hunter.

I guess mathis will start that first game.

Shamrock
04-12-2012, 11:10 AM
Orioles take 2/3.

nithanyo
04-12-2012, 11:19 AM
Orioles take 2/3.

... And the WS crown right?

Sanyo
04-12-2012, 11:25 AM
gonna try to make tomorrow's or saturday game. Morrow or Alvarez can't go wrong.

Bob_at_york
04-12-2012, 11:26 AM
I would like to call a sweep but I wouldn't be surprised if the O's found a way to take one game.

Shamrock
04-12-2012, 11:30 AM
... And the WS crown right?Just maybe. :)

Sanyo
04-12-2012, 11:30 AM
Even if Jays take 2 out of 3 its a success -- 2 out of 3 can net you around 100 wins...not too shabby. I would love a sweep though since the O's are coming off a series where their bullpen got taxed (similar to the Jays in Cleveland).

Shamrock
04-12-2012, 11:31 AM
Hunter pitches for the Orioles on Friday.

the_jon
04-12-2012, 11:40 AM
I say we take the first two and the 3rd is a tossup. Like I said before if Drabek pitches like he did against the Red Sox, we'll win, if he pitches like last year, Orioles win.

Shamrock
04-12-2012, 11:43 AM
The Orioles will have on the hill.

Hunter, Hammel, and Matusz.

JermanJaysFan
04-12-2012, 11:49 AM
I guess mathis will start that first game.
Lets hope not. JPA has an off day today for rest if he needs it, and 4/27 (or JPA's 1/10) is predictive of absolutely nothing.

Sanyo
04-12-2012, 12:45 PM
LOLL classic Yahoo comedy article: A look at O's Robert Andino profile pictures from the last three years...notice how the smile gets smaller each year... lol

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/robert-andino-face-displays-toll-playing-orioles-173610101.html

neemer85
04-12-2012, 12:48 PM
. Like I said before if Drabek pitches like he did against the Red Sox, we'll win, if he pitches like last year, Orioles win.

OMG U DONT SAY?! You must be a baseball analys

Sanyo
04-12-2012, 12:49 PM
OMG U DONT SAY?! You must be a baseball analys

Buck blunder...

Jays Claw
04-12-2012, 01:44 PM
Jays take 2/3.

adid727
04-12-2012, 02:06 PM
Buck blunder...

:laugh2: priceless

Ace Drivers
04-12-2012, 03:31 PM
LOLL classic Yahoo comedy article: A look at O's Robert Andino profile pictures from the last three years...notice how the smile gets smaller each year... lol

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/robert-andino-face-displays-toll-playing-orioles-173610101.html

Just had a peak and yes it's hilarious...on that page I happened to notice a link to another pic...which is even better! Not baseball related...but seriously dude!

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/santos-laguna-player-poses-small-child-playboy-magazine-192930767.html

Ace Drivers
04-12-2012, 03:46 PM
Oh and I take the Jays to sweep

neemer85
04-12-2012, 04:38 PM
Sweep.

Morrow with 8+ strikeouts and a victory

Alvarez will minimize the hits to 5 or less

Drabek will continue from where he left off with the Red Sox, and Orioles pitcher Matusz isn't very good

neemer85
04-12-2012, 04:39 PM
Though JJ Hardy did have his way with us last year. we gotta keep him locked down

TRIUMPHATOR
04-12-2012, 06:59 PM
2 out of 3.

On paper everyone should sweep the O's...but even the worst teams win almost 60 games a year.

There's an old saying that "the best teams lose at least 60 games, and the worst win at least 60 games, its what you do with the remaining games that define the team".

es0terik
04-12-2012, 07:11 PM
There's an old saying that "the best teams lose at least 60 games, and the worst win at least 60 games, its what you do with the remaining games that define the team".
Yeah the exact quote is:
No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games (54). No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games (54). It's the other third (54) that makes the difference.
― Tommy Lasorda

StealingSigns
04-12-2012, 07:52 PM
Just had a peak and yes it's hilarious...on that page I happened to notice a link to another pic...which is even better! Not baseball related...but seriously dude!

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/santos-laguna-player-poses-small-child-playboy-magazine-192930767.html

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

B-Ray
04-12-2012, 08:23 PM
Don't you hate off days?

BBB
04-12-2012, 09:03 PM
Don't you hate off days?

As long as we continue not seeing that fifth starter I'm ok with off days.

the_jon
04-12-2012, 10:14 PM
Yeah the exact quote is:
Explain the 2001 Mariners

116 wins bounced in the ALCS in 5

adid727
04-12-2012, 10:21 PM
good to see Justin Morneau healthy again. Hopefully he has a great comeback year.

Shamrock
04-12-2012, 10:29 PM
Oh and I take the Jays to sweepDefinitely will NOT happen.

JermanJaysFan
04-12-2012, 10:47 PM
Definitely will NOT happen.

We are 27 and 9 against you guys over the past two seasons. On a pure mathematics basis, we "should" take 2.25 out of 3 games from you this series. That's not a sweep, but it's close, and predicting one is far from ludicrous.

2009mvp
04-12-2012, 10:52 PM
Oh the hilarity of an OrioLOLe fan getting cocky on the strength of sweeping one of the two AL teams that might be worse than they are.

the_jon
04-12-2012, 10:53 PM
We are 27 and 9 against you guys over the past two seasons. On a pure mathematics basis, we "should" take 2.25 out of 3 games from you this series. That's not a sweep, but it's close, and predicting one is far from ludicrous.
I don't think you needed to say anything more than "it's the Orioles"

the_jon
04-12-2012, 10:54 PM
Oh the hilarity of an OrioLOLe fan getting cocky on the strength of sweeping one of the two AL teams that might be worse than they are.
There are two? :confused:

adid727
04-12-2012, 10:56 PM
Shoemaker seems to have figured us out. (buck blunder).

TO Rapz
04-12-2012, 10:56 PM
Our starters need to keep being smexy.

the_jon
04-12-2012, 11:00 PM
Bleh I just want to see a damn game that isn't the Marlins.

JermanJaysFan
04-12-2012, 11:36 PM
There are two? :confused:
Twinkies and Mariners?

2009mvp
04-12-2012, 11:40 PM
I was thinking Oakland, but then again I think the M's are a bit better than most seem to.

WolvesJagsOs
04-13-2012, 12:00 AM
The Orioles are not terrible. Only way we will be is if the pitching doesn't progress, which I don't see happening. Arrieta looks very good, outside of one bad pitch to Grandy yesterday, he pitched a hell of a game. Tommy Hunter lost 30 pound over the off-season and should at least be an ok middle of the rotation type pitcher for us. Matusz and Chen are question marks, but both have the potential to be very good pitchers. Matusz struggled with his command against the Yankees who seem to crush him everytime he faces them and was his first start of the year, bound to be a little overly amped. Just hope to see progression in the next couple starts. Worst comes to worst, we see Wada or Britton when they come off the DL. Chen has pin-point location and some good stuff, just not overpowering.

As for Hammel, he has always been ok, just never had consistency after the 4th/5th inning and would get killed after that, had an amazing first start, we'll see what he does in this series.

We are definitely not a crap team, just play in a division where it's hard to play above .500 ball. Got a solid looking lineup that was downright terrible with RISP. We'll see how we do against the Jays. I'm thinking 1 of 3, but we could sneak in 2 pending on how Hammel and Matusz pitch.

Also, don't mistaken me for saying this team will be above .500 when I say this team should have a good year, I mean we will not be a team you can chalk up as wins when you play like the past. Our one main problem in past years has been pitching, it looks quite a bit better this year, and you won't see us throwing out Mitch Atkins and Jakubauskas...2 guys who I didn't know before I saw them pitch for us.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 12:18 AM
The Orioles are not terrible. Only way we will be is if the pitching doesn't progress, which I don't see happening. Arrieta looks very good, outside of one bad pitch to Grandy yesterday, he pitched a hell of a game. Tommy Hunter lost 30 pound over the off-season and should at least be an ok middle of the rotation type pitcher for us. Matusz and Chen are question marks, but both have the potential to be very good pitchers. Matusz struggled with his command against the Yankees who seem to crush him everytime he faces them and was his first start of the year, bound to be a little overly amped. Just hope to see progression in the next couple starts. Worst comes to worst, we see Wada or Britton when they come off the DL. Chen has pin-point location and some good stuff, just not overpowering.

As for Hammel, he has always been ok, just never had consistency after the 4th/5th inning and would get killed after that, had an amazing first start, we'll see what he does in this series.

We are definitely not a crap team, just play in a division where it's hard to play above .500 ball. Got a solid looking lineup that was downright terrible with RISP. We'll see how we do against the Jays. I'm thinking 1 of 3, but we could sneak in 2 pending on how Hammel and Matusz pitch.

Also, don't mistaken me for saying this team will be above .500 when I say this team should have a good year, I mean we will not be a team you can chalk up as wins when you play like the past. Our one main problem in past years has been pitching, it looks quite a bit better this year, and you won't see us throwing out Mitch Atkins and Jakubauskas...2 guys who I didn't know before I saw them pitch for us.

No disrespect.. but like Twitchy said earlier, its getting really hard to expect anything from Orioles pitching. Every year you hear about how great the next wave of Orioles pitchers are gonna be and they all come up and get hammered. They went from Cabrera to Penn to Bergesen and onto the newest bunch (Tillman, Matusz, Arrieta). None of these guys have shown that they can cut it in the majors. Last year they called up Britton with high hopes but he followed in the terrible tradition. Pitchers without strikeout stuff can't survive in this division.

Even if the starters do well, they are handing it over to a pretty terrible looking bullpen. You can't expect anything from a pen that has Johnson as a closer (best member).

The offense is decent but it doesn't really matter as long as the staff is so terrible.

They do have a few great pieces in Wieters, Machado, and Bundy but with their owner situation, it seems like they are much farther away from contending than we thought a couple of years ago

Sanyo
04-13-2012, 12:33 AM
Dylan Bundy is an animal! He will be the ace far and away of that team. Already killing it in the minors to start his pro career. 2 starts, 6 innings, 12 strikeouts, 0 runs, 0 hits. Not sure of any other pitcher who's started off his career this strong! One or two more starts like this and he's moving up to High A ball -- just turned 19. Wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to Double A by the end of the year and get to the majors sometime next year if he keeps it up...

Sanyo
04-13-2012, 12:37 AM
Also if Bundy keeps it up, he will be the #1 prospect on many people's list for 2013.

StealingSigns
04-13-2012, 12:41 AM
Dylan Bundy is an animal! He will be the ace far and away of that team. Already killing it in the minors to start his pro career. 2 starts, 6 innings, 12 strikeouts, 0 runs, 0 hits. Not sure of any other pitcher who's started off his career this strong! One or two more starts like this and he's moving up to High A ball -- just turned 19. Wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to Double A by the end of the year and get to the majors sometime next year if he keeps it up...

And the O's will somehow manage to screw him up...

2009mvp
04-13-2012, 12:42 AM
Not that he isn't awesome, but pitching 3 innings at a time is gonna make those numbers look a bit better than they typically would.

StealingSigns
04-13-2012, 12:48 AM
Not that he isn't awesome, but pitching 3 innings at a time is gonna make those numbers look a bit better than they typically would.

Are you suggesting you want more than an average of 3 IP from a starter in two games before passing judgement? :p

For shame!

Sanyo
04-13-2012, 12:49 AM
Not that he isn't awesome, but pitching 3 innings at a time is gonna make those numbers look a bit better than they typically would.

True its just the start and for him, but if he can pitch consistently with that much domination he could be the the biggest prospect to come through the O's system since...maybe ever.

He's got a ton of hype, but for now its all warranted.

Dol-Fan
04-13-2012, 12:50 AM
Are you suggesting you want more than an average of 3 IP from a starter in two games before passing judgement? :p

For shame!

so...are you saying it's too early to anoint John Stilson a superstar? :eyebrow:

Sanyo
04-13-2012, 12:52 AM
Are you suggesting you want more than an average of 3 IP from a starter in two games before passing judgement? :p

For shame!

I know its only 3 innings, but thats generally the rule in Mid A to start he season. He is clearly way too advanced for Mid A and could actually be in Double or maybe even facing Triple A talent right now. He throws hard but he knows how to spot pitches with 97 mph heat which almost no pitcher his age can do (Syndergaard is a God send for us and I would say even he is not in Bundy's league).

I know some will have reservations about him and thats fine cause its only been two pro starts but im calling it first here and saying he's finishing the season in Double A and will see the Majors in some way or fashion in 2013, probably September, but never know...

StealingSigns
04-13-2012, 12:52 AM
so...are you saying it's too early to anoint John Stilson a superstar? :eyebrow:

The O's fan in me certainly has already done that :)

StealingSigns
04-13-2012, 01:00 AM
I know its only 3 innings, but thats generally the rule in Mid A to start he season. He is clearly way too advanced for Mid A and could actually be in Double or maybe even facing Triple A talent right now. He throws hard but he knows how to spot pitches with 97 mph heat which almost no pitcher his age can do (Syndergaard is a God send for us and I would say even he is not in Bundy's league).

I know some will have reservations about him and thats fine cause its only been two pro starts but im calling it first here and saying he's finishing the season in Double A and will see the Majors in some way or fashion in 2013, probably September, but never know...

There is no doubt the kid is a stud.

Right now.

But you have to realize, the O's have had a plethora of kickass prospects who have flamed out in their system. Some actually make it to the MLB, to be quickly lit up by the bats of the AL East...

Sanyo
04-13-2012, 01:25 AM
There is no doubt the kid is a stud.

Right now.

But you have to realize, the O's have had a plethora of kickass prospects who have flamed out in their system. Some actually make it to the MLB, to be quickly lit up by the bats of the AL East...

True, but that's unfair to say at the same time considering Bundy has nothing to do with the past. No doubt the O's have had duds but the skill that Bundy possess at 19 is unparalleled to anything the O's have drafted in a long time (including Hobgood who would be the closest thing to drafting someone like Bundy. Except he threw around 89-92 mph compared to Bundy's 95-97 mph, touching 100, and having command and mechanics for a 19 year old that is far more advanced than Hobgood could ever dream of). He probably should have gone #1 to be frank in the draft. And Bundy was drafted in what will likely be the best draft pool in a long time (alot of the guys drafted this year will have All star caliber careers).

But anyways he's been impressive so far, I even made a joke last week on what the Jays would have to give to get a guy like Bundy -- he has surely not disappointed in his 2 starts.

WolvesJagsOs
04-13-2012, 01:30 AM
No disrespect.. but like Twitchy said earlier, its getting really hard to expect anything from Orioles pitching. Every year you hear about how great the next wave of Orioles pitchers are gonna be and they all come up and get hammered. They went from Cabrera to Penn to Bergesen and onto the newest bunch (Tillman, Matusz, Arrieta). None of these guys have shown that they can cut it in the majors. Last year they called up Britton with high hopes but he followed in the terrible tradition. Pitchers without strikeout stuff can't survive in this division.

Even if the starters do well, they are handing it over to a pretty terrible looking bullpen. You can't expect anything from a pen that has Johnson as a closer (best member).

The offense is decent but it doesn't really matter as long as the staff is so terrible.

They do have a few great pieces in Wieters, Machado, and Bundy but with their owner situation, it seems like they are much farther away from contending than we thought a couple of years ago

And I understand that, but I can't say that all these guys as of late have to do with the Orioles. Matusz came in out of shape and had 0 confidence last year and was dealing with personal problems. Britton was looking to be a ROY candidate but got hurt and never really got back at it, and Arrieta had bone spurs in his elbow and says he hasn't felt this good since high school and has looked great thus far. Not sure what you mean that you haven't seen anything from Britton or Arrieta to think they can cut it in the majors...They also recently brought in some new guys and are focusing on making sure we can build good arms, Andy McPhail didn't seem to be that worried about the young pitchers not working out, Duquette has.

How do you figure that JJ can't man the closer role? The guy has downright nasty stuff and finally got a look late last year and looked great and has came out of the gates looking good this year after a spring where his velocity was a bit down, but now it's back up. Lindstrom, Strop, O'Day, Patton, as well as Wada/Phillips/Piniero that we should get a look at looks like a solid pen to me. Not sure if you've seen Strop, but he is going to be an excellent guy out of the bullpen.

And again, I said we will be decent if the pitching improves. It can't get worse than last year, honestly, it can't. Look at all the problems I pointed out last year in a few of those young guys I posted above. Add to that we had to put in these random no namers. We won't have that problem this year. We have Arrieta, Britton, Chen, Wada, Hunter, Hammel, Matusz, Tillman, and Eveland who all can start.

WolvesJagsOs
04-13-2012, 01:35 AM
I think Sanyo said it best, that was a while back. Not all pitching prospects are going to turn into studs, and as of right now, i'm really liking the potential of both Arrieta and Britton if Britton can get healthy. Matusz has the stuff to be a very good player, will he? I don't know. It's not the Orioles org. that's stopping Matusz, it's Matusz. As for Tillman, I really don't know about him, but he is also only 23 years old and has plenty of time.

But yeah, like I said, Sanyo said it best, we have brought in quite a few new guys to work with the pitchers in the lower levels. I'm pretty sure Buck as well as Duquette have realized that this organization has had problems developing young pitchers, and I think they are taking steps to fix that.

But yes, we don't know if that is going to happen or not so I can't say. But I do like this rotation this year and I like what i'm seeing, more than I could say for quite some time.

2009mvp
04-13-2012, 01:42 AM
I know its only 3 innings, but thats generally the rule in Mid A to start he season. He is clearly way too advanced for Mid A and could actually be in Double or maybe even facing Triple A talent right now. He throws hard but he knows how to spot pitches with 97 mph heat which almost no pitcher his age can do (Syndergaard is a God send for us and I would say even he is not in Bundy's league).

I know some will have reservations about him and thats fine cause its only been two pro starts but im calling it first here and saying he's finishing the season in Double A and will see the Majors in some way or fashion in 2013, probably September, but never know...

Not really. Might be the O's philosophy, not a general rule. Seems to make more sense to just him go for 5 or 6 innings.

Toxeryll
04-13-2012, 02:22 AM
Not really. Might be the O's philosophy, not a general rule. Seems to make more sense to just him go for 5 or 6 innings.

yup, theyre babying him too much IMO. its easy to dominate when youre only facing the hitters once. and i agree with StealingSigns, O's will somehow screw him up.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 02:39 AM
And I understand that, but I can't say that all these guys as of late have to do with the Orioles. Matusz came in out of shape and had 0 confidence last year and was dealing with personal problems. Britton was looking to be a ROY candidate but got hurt and never really got back at it, and Arrieta had bone spurs in his elbow and says he hasn't felt this good since high school and has looked great thus far. Not sure what you mean that you haven't seen anything from Britton or Arrieta to think they can cut it in the majors...They also recently brought in some new guys and are focusing on making sure we can build good arms, Andy McPhail didn't seem to be that worried about the young pitchers not working out, Duquette has.

How do you figure that JJ can't man the closer role? The guy has downright nasty stuff and finally got a look late last year and looked great and has came out of the gates looking good this year after a spring where his velocity was a bit down, but now it's back up. Lindstrom, Strop, O'Day, Patton, as well as Wada/Phillips/Piniero that we should get a look at looks like a solid pen to me. Not sure if you've seen Strop, but he is going to be an excellent guy out of the bullpen.

And again, I said we will be decent if the pitching improves. It can't get worse than last year, honestly, it can't. Look at all the problems I pointed out last year in a few of those young guys I posted above. Add to that we had to put in these random no namers. We won't have that problem this year. We have Arrieta, Britton, Chen, Wada, Hunter, Hammel, Matusz, Tillman, and Eveland who all can start.

You can easily come up with a legit an excuse for any big prospect that has failed to make it in the majors. At the end of the day, its gonna come down to results and none of these guys have shown results thus far. I'm not saying they won't in the future but as of now, they are bad pitchers.

Matusz was a great prospect coming up and has suddenly lost his velocity and the polish that made him a big prospect in the first place

Arrieta has the fastball velocity but it doesn't seem to help him get strikeouts. A sub 7 K/9 and 4+ BB/9 will be hard to succeed with anywhere let alone in the East

Britton is a nice groundball guy but those kind of pitchers don't have much success in the AL East. You need to be able to strike guys out and none of these guys seem to be able to do that

As for the pen, i'm sorry but these names aren't impressive at all. As Jays fans, we had the same situation last year with a patched up bullpen that we thought was gonna be strong for us and that didn't turn out well. Getting a bunch of journeyman type guys that have had the odd successful year in the past rarely works.

Now I have yet to see Chen and Wada pitch but I can tell you that guys like Hunter, Hammels, Eveland (lol) in the AL East are no better than guys like Eaton, Benson, Hendrikson, JoJo in the AL East.

WolvesJagsOs
04-13-2012, 01:06 PM
You can easily come up with a legit an excuse for any big prospect that has failed to make it in the majors. At the end of the day, its gonna come down to results and none of these guys have shown results thus far. I'm not saying they won't in the future but as of now, they are bad pitchers.

Matusz was a great prospect coming up and has suddenly lost his velocity and the polish that made him a big prospect in the first place

Arrieta has the fastball velocity but it doesn't seem to help him get strikeouts. A sub 7 K/9 and 4+ BB/9 will be hard to succeed with anywhere let alone in the East

Britton is a nice groundball guy but those kind of pitchers don't have much success in the AL East. You need to be able to strike guys out and none of these guys seem to be able to do that

As for the pen, i'm sorry but these names aren't impressive at all. As Jays fans, we had the same situation last year with a patched up bullpen that we thought was gonna be strong for us and that didn't turn out well. Getting a bunch of journeyman type guys that have had the odd successful year in the past rarely works.

Now I have yet to see Chen and Wada pitch but I can tell you that guys like Hunter, Hammels, Eveland (lol) in the AL East are no better than guys like Eaton, Benson, Hendrikson, JoJo in the AL East.

I'm not going to get into an argument with you about this man. I've followed the Orioles closely for the past 8-10 years, and not one year did I feel as confident about our starting rotation as this year. If you have watched Arrieta at all this year which it doesn't sound like you have, he has been very impressive and has shown why many people thought he could be a good #2.

No way can you blame the Orioles organization for Matusz. When Buck got here, that 2nd half he had a mid 3 ERA and was looking great. Than last season he shows up and he has a lot of problems regarding other things and his confidence is shot. His velocity was there for down and it didn't work out for him. He seems to be feeling better this year thus far and his velocity is up and Wieters has said he is starting to shape up into what he saw when Buck showed up but struggled with command in his first game.

Hunter is not a bad pitcher at all man, he is a solid guy that you can put in the back of a rotation. In Texas when he was the starter a couple years back he was an ok arm, and he lost 30 pounds to get into better shape so he can go longer in games this past off-season.

As for Britton, I don't know. He looked tremendous in the beginning of last year and looked to be a guy that can be in the front of a rotation, but than got hurt and hasn't gotten back, so your guess is as good as mine.

I don't know how you can say all the Orioles pitchers are "bad", sure we haven't come up with an ace yet, but it looks a hell of a lot better than last year and you couldn't expect anything better from the young guys after a year like last year with the injuries. We were a 70 win team last year with a team ERA in the mid 5's.

And again, many organizations have pitchers that fail, it happens. You just hope some of your top prospects pan out. There is always plenty that don't turn into what people expect, there is plenty of them in every organization, the Blue Jays included.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 01:28 PM
I'm not going to get into an argument with you about this man. I've followed the Orioles closely for the past 8-10 years, and not one year did I feel as confident about our starting rotation as this year. If you have watched Arrieta at all this year which it doesn't sound like you have, he has been very impressive and has shown why many people thought he could be a good #2.

No way can you blame the Orioles organization for Matusz. When Buck got here, that 2nd half he had a mid 3 ERA and was looking great. Than last season he shows up and he has a lot of problems regarding other things and his confidence is shot. His velocity was there for down and it didn't work out for him. He seems to be feeling better this year thus far and his velocity is up and Wieters has said he is starting to shape up into what he saw when Buck showed up but struggled with command in his first game.

Hunter is not a bad pitcher at all man, he is a solid guy that you can put in the back of a rotation. In Texas when he was the starter a couple years back he was an ok arm, and he lost 30 pounds to get into better shape so he can go longer in games this past off-season.

As for Britton, I don't know. He looked tremendous in the beginning of last year and looked to be a guy that can be in the front of a rotation, but than got hurt and hasn't gotten back, so your guess is as good as mine.

I don't know how you can say all the Orioles pitchers are "bad", sure we haven't come up with an ace yet, but it looks a hell of a lot better than last year and you couldn't expect anything better from the young guys after a year like last year with the injuries. We were a 70 win team last year with a team ERA in the mid 5's.

And again, many organizations have pitchers that fail, it happens. You just hope some of your top prospects pan out. There is always plenty that don't turn into what people expect, there is plenty of them in every organization, the Blue Jays included.

you obviously know your team better than I do .. i'm just saying I personally don't expect their staff to be that much better. We'll just have to wait and see

darth helmet
04-13-2012, 01:29 PM
Honestly, i loved hockey as a child in my youth. I participated in both hockey and baseball leagues as a child, and at high levels... But hockey takes a back seat to baseball for me to be quiet honest. This country is so hockey centric that im getting sick of it. You know there is something wrong when hockey gets more coverage in their off season on TSN than baseball does during their season lol.

Dont get me wrong, i still love and enjoy it (as i will continue to watch playoff games) but knowing baseball has started again cheers me up in such a tumultuous period when i have 5 exams in the next 2 weeks.

Well thats my rant about hockey lol :p

If this were facebook, I would like this post. I share the same sediments as you.

As for this series, I'm calling for a sweep. O's are a bit beaten after the series with the Yanks and all 3 of our starters are coming off strong starts and must be brimming with confidence. If we come out with only 2/3 I'll still be happy though.

I wonder who voted the O's would sweep. That's as crazy as predicting the Leafs to ever make the playoffs.

Converged
04-13-2012, 01:33 PM
Santos has been placed on paternity list so Evan Crawford has been called up for a few days. Excited to see him with all the hype I have heard.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 01:34 PM
Did you see Hunter and Hammel pitch in their first starts? I don't think they will beat both of them.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 01:42 PM
Did you see Hunter and Hammel pitch in their first starts? I don't think they will beat both of them.
Nobody outside of Orioles and Twins fans we're watching that series

Converged
04-13-2012, 01:52 PM
Not to discredit their potential or their starts in opening week, but that does not really alter my views of the Orioles pitching. Once they have proven that they can be consistently dominant against the AL, I will change my stance. It is no different than Drabek. The guy has tons of potential, has had a few dominant starts, but suffers from inconsistency and command. It is nothing against the Orioles in general, but applies to any pitcher. Until you have proven yourself to be consistent at the major league level, you are not going to gain the respect (whether deserved or not) from other teams.

2009mvp
04-13-2012, 01:56 PM
See Arrieta and Matusz still actually have some upside, but Hunter and Hammel? C'mon, they stink.

Toxeryll
04-13-2012, 01:59 PM
Did you see Hunter and Hammel pitch in their first starts? I don't think they will beat both of them.

we usually beat up Hunter and Matusz so i dont think it will be any different this series. ive never seen Hammel pitch but Im confident Alvarez will throw a good game for us so i think well get at least two.

Bob Loblaw
04-13-2012, 02:00 PM
Santos has been placed on paternity list so Evan Crawford has been called up for a few days. Excited to see him with all the hype I have heard.

Ya i hope he gets to see some game action

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 02:02 PM
Can't wait till the series starts tonight. Should be some good games.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 02:03 PM
Hammel had a no hitter going into the 7th inning in his first start.

2009mvp
04-13-2012, 02:08 PM
It. Was. The. TWINS.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 02:10 PM
I don't care what team it was he was still making great pitches.

Bob Loblaw
04-13-2012, 02:13 PM
It. Was. The. TWINS.

Its not like the Jays have been torching the starting pitching so far...

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 02:14 PM
I think if a pitcher makes good pitches it doesn't matter what team they are facing.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 02:16 PM
It. Was. The. TWINS.
Not to mention it's early April where teams are struggling to score runs and hitters are still ironing out their swings.

I haven't seen Chen pitch before, but of those 5 starters Hammel is the least impressive in my eyes. Hunter could actually be pretty solid and Arrieta and Matusz have good upside, possibly even Chen I really don't know anything about him. But to expect Hammel to suddenly break out at the age of 29 after just one start is pretty nieve. The only thing he really has going for him is that he's coming away from Coors.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 02:17 PM
Its not like the Jays have been torching the starting pitching so far...
Good point

2009mvp
04-13-2012, 02:19 PM
I think we're two series' into the season. I think that there's hundreds of innings worth of data showing the Jays have a solid lineup and Hammel and Hunter stink. But you're probably right, the 7 innings where he put up a 5:3 K to BB ratio against one of the worst lineups in baseball is probably a much more accurate representation of his skills. Cy Young baby!

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 02:19 PM
Chen has been pitching pretty good throughout the Spring and his 1st outing in the regular season.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 02:22 PM
Jays had the best record in spring training.... that doesn't mean we're gonna start blowing everyone away.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 02:22 PM
I never said he was great, but he is a serviceable pitcher that can make good pitches. The Jays do have a pretty good lineup, but it certainly can be had if good pitches are made.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 02:26 PM
We don't know that yet because his last start was his first ever in the major leagues. I didn't watch it but his peripherals seem alright but still it's just one start. A regular in the rotation makes anywhere from 30-35 starts a year

WolvesJagsOs
04-13-2012, 02:36 PM
I think we're two series' into the season. I think that there's hundreds of innings worth of data showing the Jays have a solid lineup and Hammel and Hunter stink. But you're probably right, the 7 innings where he put up a 5:3 K to BB ratio against one of the worst lineups in baseball is probably a much more accurate representation of his skills. Cy Young baby!

Hunter stinks? Come on man, not every rotation has high upside players. He is a very respectable end of the rotation guy and dropped a lot of weight so he can eat more innings this year. Hunter is also only 25 years old.

nithanyo
04-13-2012, 04:37 PM
Where's jojo?

dtmagnet
04-13-2012, 04:53 PM
Do the O's still have Kevin Gregg?

StealingSigns
04-13-2012, 05:00 PM
Do the O's still have Kevin Gregg?

They sure do! :nod:

AK-50
04-13-2012, 05:00 PM
Where's jojo?

hes in the pirates minor league system

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 05:05 PM
Do the O's still have Kevin Gregg?Unfortunetly

Kelly Gruber
04-13-2012, 05:43 PM
hes in the pirates minor league system

Sporting a 54.00 era...

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 06:00 PM
Actually Hammels is the guy that scares me out of the pitchers we're facing.. he is by no means good but he shows flashes and the Jays always seems to struggle against those tall righties that have good fastballs. Like a Niemann.

2 of 3 is a must here and a sweep would be nice

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:01 PM
Sporting a 54.00 era...:facepalm:

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:03 PM
Actually Hammels is the guy that scares me out of the pitchers we're facing.. he is by no means good but he shows flashes and the Jays always seems to struggle against those tall righties that have good fastballs. Like a Niemann.

2 of 3 is a must here and a sweep would be niceMaybe his first outing wasn't a fluke. Just maybe.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 06:04 PM
What's Up Jays Fans. Let's Go O''s

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 06:04 PM
Always Liked Morrow's Future.

Tmath
04-13-2012, 06:10 PM
What's Up Jays Fans. Let's Go O''s

Go Padres. :p

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 06:12 PM
Go Padres. :p

Not Gonna Happen. Dodgers = 7-1 After Today's/TOMMs Game Being We May Get Rained Out :sigh:

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 06:15 PM
A bit worried about Morrow tonight

O's hitters have an insane .272/.385/.966 slash against him with 6 HRs in 81 ABs. Guys like Jones, Hardy, Davis, Reimold, Markakis have all hit him well in the past.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 06:17 PM
Maybe his first outing wasn't a fluke. Just maybe.

his other 115 starts would suggest otherwise

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 06:21 PM
his other 115 starts would suggest otherwise

Who We Talking About?

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:23 PM
Let's go O's. It getting close to game time.

StealingSigns
04-13-2012, 06:25 PM
Escobar, Y, SS
Johnson, K, 2B
Bautista, J, RF
Lind, A, 1B
Encarnacion, E, DH
Thames, E, LF
Lawrie, B, 3B
Rasmus, C, CF
Arencibia, J, C

http://toronto.bluejays.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_04_13_balmlb_tormlb_1&mode=preview&c_id=tor#gid=2012_04_13_balmlb_tormlb_1&mode=lineups

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 06:28 PM
Man On Paper That Lineup Looks Real Tough, But It Seems Everybody Is Struggling At The Start, Except Maybe Kelly.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:30 PM
They have a good lineup, but so do the Orioles.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 06:35 PM
lol i can understand an orioles fan being here because the O's forum could feel lonely but what is the Dodgers fan doing

JermanJaysFan
04-13-2012, 06:36 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FrB-M_aP19I/T4iLE2eqbvI/AAAAAAAAAPw/5JaCRj6BCew/s500/slide.gif

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:38 PM
We need more Orioles fan here.

BBB
04-13-2012, 06:39 PM
Per Sportsnet. Bautista hit 2Hrs, OPS .670 against the O's last season.

Surprising.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 06:40 PM
lol i can understand an orioles fan being here because the O's forum could feel lonely but what is the Dodgers fan doing

I'm An O's Fan As Well Bro. Check The O's Forum I'm Active There.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:41 PM
Hardy has also hit 2 HR's last year against the Jays.

phillipmike
04-13-2012, 06:42 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FrB-M_aP19I/T4iLE2eqbvI/AAAAAAAAAPw/5JaCRj6BCew/s500/slide.gif

LOL

In other news, McGowan is expected to start his rehab stint next week.

Also Santos is on the Paternity Leave list and is unavailable tonight but will be ready tomorrow. Evan Crawford has been called up to give the Jays another lefty in the pen. Expect Cordero or Janssen to close if we need a save.

Re: Crawford - I posted this earlier in another thread but Gose said that there is no question that Crawford has the BEST arm in the Jays system. AA also said that Crawford is seen as a long term piece that could be a member of the Jays pen for a long time.

My two cent: He might be look at as a guy to replace Scrabbles and Oliver if and when we lose him at the end of the year.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:43 PM
Lind is the guy that scares the hell out of me tonight.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 06:45 PM
LOL

In other news, McGowan is expected to start his rehab stint next week.

Also Santos is on the Paternity Leave list and is unavailable tonight but will be ready tomorrow. Evan Crawford has been called up to give the Jays another lefty in the pen. Expect Cordero or Janssen to close if we need a save.

Re: Crawford - I posted this earlier in another thread but Gose said that there is no question the BEST arm in the Jays system. AA said he is a long term piece that could be a member of the Jays pen for a long time. He might be look at as a guy to replace Scrabbles and Oliver if and when we lose him at the end of the year.

great new with Dustin.. we need a 5th starter..

I would have wanted to see Beck or something.. Orioles don't exactly have many scary lefty bats.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:49 PM
MASN just said Lind hit 6 HR's against Orioles pitching last season in just 19 AB's.

phillipmike
04-13-2012, 06:52 PM
MASN just said Lind hit 6 HR's against Orioles pitching last season in just 19 AB's.

I think he hit 4 in one series when he came back from an injury.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 06:53 PM
MASN just said Lind hit 6 HR's against Orioles pitching last season in just 19 AB's.

yeah Lind would put up Barry bonds numbers if we played the O's and Rangers every series

phillipmike
04-13-2012, 06:53 PM
I dont know about you guys but i think the new Orioles logo is TERRIBLE. One of the worst i have seen. Very Ugly, i cant help but look and laugh; then look away because it is ugly.

BBB
04-13-2012, 06:54 PM
I dont know about you guys but i think the new Orioles logo is TERRIBLE. One of the worst i have seen. Very Ugly, i cant help but look and laugh; then look away because it is ugly.

I like it.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:55 PM
I love the Cartoon Bird logo.

JermanJaysFan
04-13-2012, 06:55 PM
I dont know about you guys but i think the new Orioles logo is TERRIBLE. One of the worst i have seen. Very Ugly, i cant help but look and laugh; then look away because it is ugly.
I actually like it more than the old one. It's not supposed to be an ornithology textbook, it's supposed to be a logo :shrug:.

BBB
04-13-2012, 06:57 PM
Cool, nice to see George Bell with the club.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 06:58 PM
Orioles are ready to hit some fastballs tonight which Morrow pitches most often.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:00 PM
I Like The New Logo & Uniforms For Both These Teams.

3mikee_
04-13-2012, 07:00 PM
Good feeling about our bats tonight

BBB
04-13-2012, 07:01 PM
Diggin Buck Martinez's hair. XD

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:02 PM
, I don't mind an orioles fan here. Not really many of them in the orioles forum lol. As long as no **** is caused , it might be interesting to hear things from the opposing teams fans perspective

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Time to get this started.

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Diggin Buck Martinez's hair. XD

As always :D

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:03 PM
I'd really like to see Jose pick things up against the O's.

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:04 PM
Time to get this started.

Is that your daughter in your signature?

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:04 PM
Morrow needs to be sharp again tonight.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:05 PM
, I don't mind an orioles fan here. Not really many of them in the orioles forum lol. As long as no **** is caused , it might be interesting to hear things from the opposing teams fans perspective

No Doubt. I Ain't Gonna Cause Any Crap.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 07:05 PM
alright lets kick some Orange ***

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:05 PM
Is that your daughter in your signature?Yep :)

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:05 PM
Always Liked Morrow's Future.

Sup dude, you going to chill here during the series? You should! We had 5,500 posts over the first two series, most active IGT's I think.


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FrB-M_aP19I/T4iLE2eqbvI/AAAAAAAAAPw/5JaCRj6BCew/s500/slide.gif

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Is that Youkilis? When is this from?!?


, I don't mind an orioles fan here. Not really many of them in the orioles forum lol. As long as no **** is caused , it might be interesting to hear things from the opposing teams fans perspective

Exactly. We face the Orioles for 18 games, you guys should bring your group over here and if there isn't a lot of discussion over there. More is always better.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:06 PM
I won't be causing any **** tonight in the thread. Even if the Orioles are winning.

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:06 PM
No Doubt. I Ain't Gonna Cause Any Crap.

:drool:

BBB
04-13-2012, 07:06 PM
Yep :)

Such a cutie, even with the O's gear.

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:07 PM
Really liking Sportsnet this year. Love all the new ads and features and songs and stuff. Only problem I've had with them so far is the hockey segments on the pre-show. Don't remember them having those last year.

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:07 PM
Yeah she's adorable :)

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:07 PM
Such a cutie, even with the O's gear.Thank You.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:08 PM
Sup dude, you going to chill here during the series? You should! We had 5,500 posts over the first two series, most active IGT's I think.

Sup Man, Ya I'll Be Here Guess, Cause The O's Forum Is Rather Quiet.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Is that Youkilis? When is this from?!?

It Is Kelly Shoppach

Exactly. We face the Orioles for 18 games, you guys should bring your group over here and if there isn't a lot of discussion over there. More is always better.

Sup Man, Ya I'll Hang Here This Series. And I'm Pretty Sure That Is Kelly Shoppach

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:08 PM
Beware of the red sox troll, wasn't here during the red sox @ jays, but that's the thing about him, you'll never know when he's gonna pop out

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 07:08 PM
i'd like to see Morrow throw harder than 93 this game

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:08 PM
Wow Jays are 32-12 against the O's in their last 44 meetings.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:09 PM
:drool:

What? LOL

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:09 PM
Like the start with Reimold's double.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 07:09 PM
wow that was close

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:09 PM
Almost gave up a homer there. I'm hoping that means the ball is actually going to carry for once tonight, all the line drive outs are starting to piss me off.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:10 PM
Beware of the red sox troll, wasn't here during the red sox @ jays, but that's the thing about him, you'll never know when he's gonna pop out
I've been wondering where that guy is :laugh2:

JermanJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:10 PM
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Is that Youkilis? When is this from?!?

It's Shoppach, and I am pretty sure it is from today. Saw the .gif on Getting Blanked.

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 07:10 PM
nice curve... Markakis is good in these situations

Dol-Fan
04-13-2012, 07:11 PM
anyone care to PM a stream? I am on campus right now

JermanJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:12 PM
anyone care to PM a stream? I am on campus right now

If someone gets at you with one, mind passing it along?

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:12 PM
What? LOL

Dude I'm RAPING Chi in the ESPN league so far. He's winning 1 category, I'm winning the other 9.

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:12 PM
anyone care to PM a stream? I am on campus right now

I would but whenever I do the person I send it to says it doesn't work

:confused: It works for me though

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:12 PM
Ya, Is There Any Streams Out There?

bomber0104
04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
come on.. punch him out already

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
This at-bat feels like it's gone on forever.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
Dude I'm RAPING Chi in the ESPN league so far. He's winning 1 category, I'm winning the other 9.

chi :facepalm:


I would but whenever I do the person I send it to says it doesn't work

:confused: It works for me though

Let Me Test It Out.

Dol-Fan
04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
I would but whenever I do the person I send it to says it doesn't work

:confused: It works for me though

just send it over, if you don't mind. I am so bored...need my Jays fix after the one day layoff. I'll let you know if it works.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
Liking the Orioles new unis. The old Oriole always reminded me of a pidgey lol.

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
This is going to score a run easily.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:13 PM
Come On Kakis

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:14 PM
Good Sac Fly for Kakis. 1-0 Orioles.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:14 PM
Good Pro Hitting By JJ & Kakis!

BBB
04-13-2012, 07:14 PM
Liking the Orioles new unis. The old Oriole always reminded me of a pidgey lol.

Like the pokemon pidgey?

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:14 PM
BOOM! Get out! WOW

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:15 PM
I hope Showalter gets himself ejected

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:15 PM
Where the hell was the tag!!

BBB
04-13-2012, 07:15 PM
He was safe! lol

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:15 PM
great relay!

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:15 PM
I was JUST about to say that "Escobar hasn't been sharp on D at all this year" but they all made up for it there.

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:15 PM
Like the pokemon pidgey?
Yup

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:16 PM
GTFO Showalter!!

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:16 PM
lmao he was safe by a mile, great break.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:16 PM
Was He Safe Or Out?

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:16 PM
lmao he was safe by a mile, great break.
I have to agree

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:17 PM
Alright let's get on Hunter early

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:18 PM
Buck Martinez acknowledging that Jones was safe

Cabby
04-13-2012, 07:18 PM
For those of you looking for a stream do you guys have an account(eg. mobile account) with rogers. If so you can stream every single game through rogers anywhere tv.

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:18 PM
Jones was safe.

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:18 PM
Let's get it back.

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:18 PM
Was He Safe Or Out?

Jones was easily safe (Lind wildly missed the tag) but the ump called him out.

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:18 PM
Yay, more line drive outs!

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Jones was safe.

not according to the ump.:p

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Escobar put a nice swing on that

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Damn We Got Screwed LOL

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
BOOM! Yeah baby!

Nick O
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
gone!!!

BBB
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Kelly Johnson! Yessir!

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Just give this man the mvp right now!!!

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:19 PM
I have such a boner for Johnson right now.

Nick O
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
ughh always nerve wracking waiting to see if its gonna go :P

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
Kelly Johnson goes yard.

Cabby
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
Johnson looks great so far this season!

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
Home run!

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
KJ goes deep

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
Told you the ball would carry tonight, just based on the first at-bat of the game.

LASportsFan1996
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
Dangit Hunter

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:20 PM
short lived lead for the O"s

the_jon
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
That would never go out in Arizona... KJ should hit quite a few at skydome

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Yes! Walk, good job.

Nick O
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
meh

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
JBau having none of that ****.

BlueJaysFan
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Sent the streams by the way

AA09-?
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Let's tack some on Hunter now

Shamrock
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Hunter doesn't have the command he had back against the Twins.

es0terik
04-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Murphy missed two weeks of Spring Training, no wonder the Jays did so good..