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Fresno
04-06-2012, 03:28 AM
Each team battling for the 8th seed has to make this decision.

- Get the 8th seed and face a much better team in 7 games barring injury

or

- Miss the Playoffs and have a chance in the Draft Lottery to potentially get a Franchise player


* Knicks are unaffected as their 2012 pick is going to Houston regardless of the outcome this season.

metsrock229
04-06-2012, 03:31 AM
Always compete for the 8th spot. Always.

trini_knickfan
04-06-2012, 03:36 AM
Once u get to the playoffs it's a different ball game. Upsets do happen

tredigs
04-06-2012, 03:39 AM
The Warriors have made the playoffs once in the last 16 years. It was as an 8th seed, and we took out the 1 seed out in 6 games; there was a couple of the most exciting games as a fan I've ever witnessed during that series. Trade that for the 14th pick in the draft? Yeah... mahalo but no mahalo homie.

Baller1
04-06-2012, 03:45 AM
Just ask Memphis fans. Or as digs basically just said, ask Warriors fans.

Hell, take it from me as an OKC fan. Look what we did against the Lakers a few seasons ago as an eighth seed. Even though we lost, that series was so awesome. Play for the playoffs, simple as that.

abe_froman
04-06-2012, 04:01 AM
while yes upsets happen,the times the 8th has taken out the one seed can be counted on one hand.so while in theory everyone has a shot,in practice the overwhelming odds say you'll get crushed

so,chance at top player in the draft(potential superstar) or to be cannon fodder for top team in the conference? ...c'mon,miss the playoffs each time

sunsfan88
04-06-2012, 04:19 AM
Its embarrassing to not make the playoffs in a sport where HALF the teams in the league make it!

Of course its better to make the playoffs!

MickeyMgl
04-06-2012, 04:28 AM
The lottery system has ensured that tanking is not worth it, and the fact that the question is even considered is evidence that the NBA was right to make it so difficult to profit from tanking. Go for the 8th seed, try to score the upset, never compromise in trying to win. Tanking damages the faith of your fan base.

MickeyMgl
04-06-2012, 04:31 AM
while yes upsets happen,the times the 8th has taken out the one seed can be counted on one hand.so while in theory everyone has a shot,in practice the overwhelming odds say you'll get crushed

so,chance at top player in the draft(potential superstar) or to be cannon fodder for top team in the conference? ...c'mon,miss the playoffs each time

I would say that, as an act of good faith with your team's fans, if the team is going to tank the rest of the season, tickets should be free.

Saad
04-06-2012, 04:34 AM
From a business point of view, every game is nationally televised giving more exposure to a team, as well as more games = more $$. Much better to BE a play off team rather than a fringe playoff team, a couple spots higher in picks doesnt really give much incentive to miss the playoffs imo.

alencp3
04-06-2012, 04:37 AM
Always compete for the 8th spot. Always.

+1 on this and your signature

tredigs
04-06-2012, 04:38 AM
I would say that, as an act of good faith with your team's fans, if the team is going to tank the rest of the season, tickets should be free.

I would agree that Warriors season ticket holders should have their ticket price cut the same% of the number of games that Monta+Udoh will miss due to trade this season. Management very blatantly tanked in favor of next year (couldn't agree more with the move), and those who bought tickets following the comments of Mark Jackson saying, "we WILL make the playoffs this season" should - in my mind - be compensated. I think it would be both honest AND a great long term business plan.

Deemerc
04-06-2012, 05:38 AM
It feels like 1973. We're baaaaaaack. Knicks baby... Just win :dance:

LakersIn5
04-06-2012, 06:06 AM
Always compete for the 8th spot. Always.

well then tell that to stern's basketball reasonings

FraziersKnicks
04-06-2012, 08:30 AM
If you have a chance at the 8th seed you go for it.. The amount of revenue you can make from even a 4 game sweep trumps a 14th pick and making the playoffs is always a great morale booster.

Hawkeye15
04-06-2012, 08:30 AM
Depends on the situation. But usually it's better to make the playoffs.

Example: Wolves have no pick and are full of youth. It would have been much better to make the playoffs.

Example: Rockets have been stuck in mediocracy for years, always either making the playoffs and getting bounced, or being the "best team in the lottery!", meaning they have never gotten to grab a franchise player in the draft, since Yao.

So, it would be better for the Wolves to make the playoffs this year, and better for the Rockets to have tanked, and gotten out from under having to pick yet again in the 13-16 range.

Gators123
04-06-2012, 08:39 AM
Always try and win. Teams that lose intentionally are pathetic.

LongIslandIcedZ
04-06-2012, 09:18 AM
I think the Knicks pick to Houston is top 5 protected. But either way, you compete for the playoffs

AsfanSince99
04-06-2012, 09:29 AM
Depends, if I'm the Knicks, I make the playoffs because the experience they get this year will help them next year.

If I'm the Bucks, I'd miss the playoffs cause nothing they will do will make any difference if they made the playoffs. I'd take my shot at the lottery.

He115ing
04-06-2012, 09:57 AM
If a team is good enough to make it to the playoffs it has a chance of making an upset.

justinnum1
04-06-2012, 09:58 AM
depends if you have your pick or not

todu82
04-06-2012, 10:19 AM
The 8th seed definitely.

Fly
04-06-2012, 10:25 AM
If you miss the playoffs, you'll get around the 14th pick, if you make it and lose in the first round, you'll get around the 17th pick. It's not worth it to tank and ruin the hopes of your team/fans just to move up 3 spots in the draft.

dhopisthename
04-06-2012, 10:26 AM
assuming that you can keep your pick if you do make the playoffs it is much better to just make the playoffs because more then likely all that you are giving up is like 2-5 spots and very rarely do picks that late . However what is interesting for the jazz is that if they make the playoffs they lose their pick entirely to the wolves so it is different for them.

LanceUpperCut
04-06-2012, 10:30 AM
You always play hard and to the best of your ability as a player but as management say like my team the Raptors coming into this year we all knew we would suck, you always try to win games but we drafted a guy we knew wouldn't be here until next season in Valacunis plus we never committed to any long contracts more of just fillers for the year like Butler, Magliore, Carter and Grey who turned out to be very useful. Plus we traded Blur for a 2nd round pick was a tank move but worked out for both sides giving us more cash before July 1st and giving a guy like Gary Forbes more time which he has taken full advantage of. So overall you don't every tank as a player but as management you might make future moves that will hurt your season which many would call tanking.

Baller1
04-06-2012, 10:42 AM
The NBA Draft is nothing like the NFL draft for example. A mid first round pick in the NFL draft is still extremely valuable, whereas a late lottery pick in the NBA is nothing close to a guarantee... Which is why I still say you always go for the playoff birth.

GIANTKNICK
04-06-2012, 10:49 AM
Not for the knicks we don't have a draft pick. So they need too make the playoffs.

northsid3r
04-06-2012, 10:53 AM
If you miss the playoffs, you'll get around the 14th pick, if you make it and lose in the first round, you'll get around the 17th pick. It's not worth it to tank and ruin the hopes of your team/fans just to move up 3 spots in the draft.

If you miss the playoffs you still have a chance to get the #1 pick. like chicago in 08, it kinda worked out for us.

Fresno
04-06-2012, 03:55 PM
If you miss the playoffs you still have a chance to get the #1 pick. like chicago in 08, it kinda worked out for us.

Exactly.

Chicago packed it in towards the end of that season just 2 years after being considered the future top team of the Eastern Conference, although I dont think they ever thought they would realistically be rewarded Derrick Rose.

PhillyFaninLA
04-06-2012, 04:10 PM
Losers tank.

Loser fans want there team to tank.

Playoffs are always better and I don't want heartless losers on my team or my fanbase.

uprightciti
04-06-2012, 04:12 PM
no question you go for the 8th seed no matter what

Raps08-09 Champ
04-06-2012, 04:43 PM
It's pretty much the 14th or 15th pick.

I doubt there's that much of a difference in the players chosen.

At least going to the playoffs is a good thing to build on.

clydebino
04-06-2012, 05:13 PM
It depends, If I'm in the hunt for the 8th seed with a East Coast team i think I would tank, but if I'm in the West Coast I'm going for the gold

Ebbs
04-06-2012, 05:16 PM
If you can win, win. Last years Grizzlies and 07 Warriors agree. With both fan bases surging during their runs

willabeast77
04-06-2012, 05:18 PM
More likely to get an upset in the West this season than the East.

Blitzbolt
04-06-2012, 05:19 PM
People Forget how the we(Grizzlies)Tank last year to get the Spurs we had the 6th seat lock but Hollins(the coach) like the Spurs match up and took it

itsripcity32
04-06-2012, 06:26 PM
well then tell that to stern's basketball reasonings

Aw no Cp3? Cry cry :'(

itsripcity32
04-06-2012, 06:27 PM
Franchise player??? Do you expect a team that barley misses the playoff to win the lottery!?!?!??!

Lab Rat Robby
04-06-2012, 06:43 PM
i like the eighth seed. it's the best pick you can get in the draft and still have a chance in the playoffs.

theheatles
04-06-2012, 06:47 PM
how many 8th seeds have won it all?

SportsAndrew25
04-06-2012, 08:18 PM
Obviously take the 8th seed. Look at the 1998-99 Knicks. They went all the way to the NBA finals. If they could do it, so can any other team.

JWO35
04-06-2012, 08:36 PM
Depends on the situation, going for the 8th seed in the West or making the playoffs is only probably a 2 pick difference....but in the East where the damn Raptors are still mathematically eligible for the playoffs it's probably best for them to throw in the towel.

ManningToTyree
04-06-2012, 09:01 PM
Playoffs

mdm692
04-06-2012, 09:01 PM
8th seed. Makes it that much more sweet if you manage to pull the upset.

ManningToTyree
04-06-2012, 09:02 PM
how many 8th seeds have won it all?

How many lottery teams won it all?

You have to be in it to win it. Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it can't.

knicks4life33
04-06-2012, 09:08 PM
what team would wanna miss the playoffs

knicks4life33
04-06-2012, 09:09 PM
you try for the upset

KnIckFaN.2883
04-06-2012, 09:22 PM
You have to try to get to the playoffs.

LASportsFan1996
04-06-2012, 09:36 PM
Fail Question :facepalm: Of Course The Playoffs