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damadmonk
04-05-2012, 02:12 AM
I think we have a solid shot at 8 guys (everybody after Escobar) thus breaking the record of 7 tied with a bunch of teams (including 2000 Blue Jays).

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_hr7.shtml

Halladay
04-05-2012, 02:19 AM
Well this team did have third most home runs in a season in history IIRC so I don't see why not. Obviously a good chunk was Jose but nonetheless. I don't put too much stock into homeruns but it's still an accomplishment. Power threats throughout the lineup problem is, not enough OBP guys. I also wouldn't rule out Escobar from hitting around 20, he's in his prime, has shown he has pop and more importantly, he may hit in front of Bautista which means more fastballs then he would if he were leading off. The only two I'd seriously question is Rasmus and Thames. Rasmus hasn't looked very good and I doubt Thames is here long enough to reach 20. I even think Lind will hit 20 no problem. Even with another ****** season, he'll do it.

treeleaf
04-05-2012, 02:36 AM
Well this team did have third most home runs in a season in history IIRC so I don't see why not. Obviously a good chunk was Jose but nonetheless. I don't put too much stock into homeruns but it's still an accomplishment. Power threats throughout the lineup problem is, not enough OBP guys. I also wouldn't rule out Escobar from hitting around 20, he's in his prime, has shown he has pop and more importantly, he may hit in front of Bautista which means more fastballs then he would if he were leading off. The only two I'd seriously question is Rasmus and Thames. Rasmus hasn't looked very good and I doubt Thames is here long enough to reach 20. I even think Lind will hit 20 no problem. Even with another ****** season, he'll do it.

I agree with you that thames probably wont be here long as his stock is higher than ever.

However, i dont see him having difficulties hitting 20 hrs in a season with regular playing time.

StealingSigns
04-05-2012, 04:01 AM
Just don't see it happening.

nithanyo
04-05-2012, 04:03 AM
possibly. i can see everyone hitting 20+ except escobar

mtf
04-05-2012, 04:21 AM
I don't think Encarnacion, Rasmus, Escobar or Thames will hit 20. All are capable of it, but I think each will finish in the 10-15 range.

Twitchy
04-05-2012, 07:13 AM
^^

That's an odd number for Encarnacion given that he's averaged 17 homers a season and 24 per 563 AB's. The only time Encarnacion has hit less than 15 homers was when he didn't get at least 300-400 ABs.

ILDD
04-05-2012, 07:29 AM
The way I see it

Locks for 20+ Bautista, Lawrie, Lind
Likely for 20+ Encarnacion, Johnson, Arencibia
Unlikely 20+ Escobar (just not enough power), Thames (not enough playing time), Rasmus (career year hit 23, hasn't looked that good recently)

I went for 7 exactly, figuring that one of the unlikely guys comes through.

BlueJayFanDan
04-05-2012, 08:07 AM
I think it's possible but I don't see it happening. Thames is not a sure thing as a starter for the whole season which IMO removes one option. Escobar I highly doubt will get near it as his career high is 14. Rasmus we just don't know what to expect out of him. He has the potential to do it, but I don't know how he will perform. Kelly Johnson only hit 3 in his 132 at bats with the Jays last season. He has the power to do it, but I'm not sure I see him getting to 20. Tough to say. Like I said, very possible, yet unlikely.

Krylian
04-05-2012, 08:46 AM
6

AA09-?
04-05-2012, 08:52 AM
I don't think it will happen.

lexecutioner
04-05-2012, 08:56 AM
Ill say Escobar with his quick bat hits 21 :)

Bigred91
04-05-2012, 09:08 AM
I have 6 also with Johnson, Escobar and Rasmus under 20.

Bob_at_york
04-05-2012, 09:33 AM
not this year. Maybe next year.

JMac4PM
04-05-2012, 09:53 AM
Maybe if we play against Brett Cecil acouple times we could break the record.

nithanyo
04-05-2012, 10:16 AM
Im actually expecting 8 players to get it done

Bautista and Lind are locks unless they get hurt for an extended period of time.
EE will do it if he can get into 130 games. Same goes for Arencibia, and Lawrie.
Thames and Rasmus can do it if given a full season.
For some reason Im doubtful to see much power from Johnson but I can see him doing it given a full season.

Id be happy if Escobar leads off for us with a high OBP and average.
AND if you think about it everyone on the team except Escobar has hit 20+ or were on pace to do it.

GO JAYSS!!!!!!!!!

JermanJaysFan
04-05-2012, 11:27 AM
Don't forget that Snider has a chance to reach the mark too if he gets called back up and sticks, and he wouldn't necessarily prevent anyone else from doing it if Thames stays up at a 4th OF/DH and EE still gets ABs as a DH/1B/3B/LF/PH.

mtf
04-05-2012, 10:26 PM
^^

That's an odd number for Encarnacion given that he's averaged 17 homers a season and 24 per 563 AB's. The only time Encarnacion has hit less than 15 homers was when he didn't get at least 300-400 ABs.

Yeah, I know he has some power but I just predict his consistency (or lack thereof) will cost him his job around or just after the all-star game, at which point he'll be replaced. It may just be a personal bias (although I neither like nor dislike Edwin) but I don't think he's going to keep this job for a full season. I'd be happy to be wrong, of course, but Lind and Encarnacion as the 4 and 5 hitters here just make me cringe (despite Encarnacion's 9th inning heroics today).

JermanJaysFan
04-06-2012, 03:59 AM
Yeah, I know he has some power but I just predict his consistency (or lack thereof) will cost him his job around or just after the all-star game, at which point he'll be replaced. It may just be a personal bias (although I neither like nor dislike Edwin) but I don't think he's going to keep this job for a full season. I'd be happy to be wrong, of course, but Lind and Encarnacion as the 4 and 5 hitters here just make me cringe (despite Encarnacion's 9th inning heroics today).
I know it's the streakiness that puts people off of Edwin, but I'll put this out here anyways:

Edwin in 2011: .272/.334/.453 (.787 OPS)

AL avg DH in 2011: .266/.341/.430 (.771 OPS)
AL avg #4 hitter in 2011: .264/.344/.430 (.774 OPS)
AL avg #5 hitter in 2011: .267/.330/.436 (.766 OPS)

mtf
04-06-2012, 04:17 AM
I know it's the streakiness that puts people off of Edwin, but I'll put this out here anyways:

Edwin in 2011: .272/.334/.453 (.787 OPS)

AL avg DH in 2011: .266/.341/.430 (.771 OPS)
AL avg #4 hitter in 2011: .264/.344/.430 (.774 OPS)
AL avg #5 hitter in 2011: .267/.330/.436 (.766 OPS)

I'll assume your numbers are correct, but the thing is even if those numbers are reliable, do you really want someone who is "league average" batting at such an important position? I wonder how his numbers stack up against his "peers" on playoff teams.

I'd really like him to find a reasonable level of consistency and performance, but I just wouldn't predict it. ;)

es0terik
04-06-2012, 11:44 AM
The way I see it

Locks for 20+ Bautista, Lawrie, Lind
Likely for 20+ Encarnacion, Johnson, Arencibia
Unlikely 20+ Escobar (just not enough power), Thames (not enough playing time), Rasmus (career year hit 23, hasn't looked that good recently)

I went for 7 exactly, figuring that one of the unlikely guys comes through.

Somewhat this, but this is the way I see it:

Locks for 20+: Bautista, Lind, Encarnacion, Arencibia
Likely for 20+: Lawrie, Johnson
Possible 20+: Thames, Rasmus
Unlikely 20+: Escobar

I can see anywhere between 5-8 happening. If Snider comes up, I replace Thames on that list with him and put him up to the "Likely" bar.

psuedo
04-06-2012, 06:55 PM
Possible, but probably more reliant on injuries occurring at the right(wrong) time. Bautista getting injured near the allstar break is probably the most likely way it happens. Clearly I don't want this to happen.

masTOR_shake1
04-06-2012, 07:47 PM
i don't see why not

H-MYK
04-06-2012, 07:56 PM
I don't think it would be possible. I can see Bautista, Lawrie, Arencibia and maybe Lind, but it's pretty much it.

Raps08-09 Champ
04-06-2012, 08:15 PM
If we had Manny Ramirez, we probably would.

:pity:

StayOnBoard
04-06-2012, 11:05 PM
Our average lineup on most nights

1 Escobar
2 Kelly Johnson ***
3 Jose Bautista
4 Adam Lind ***
5 EE ***
6 Brett Lawrie
7 Eric Thames ***
8 JPA
9 Colby Rasmus ***

I really only feel the guys in bold are lock, assuming they stay healthy.

BUT - the guys with *** I think could very well also hit 20, I just don't see them as locks to do so. The potential is there, I just can't see them all getting there, some of them will miss out.

Johnson, Lind, EE and Rasmus has all done it before. Thames certainly has the makeup and power to hit > 20 but very far from proven. Everything would have to go right, more than likely I see 3 out of the 5 getting there.... giving us 6 out of 9, which is still pretty impressive I think.

If I had to guess, I'd say Johnson, Lind and EE get there, with Thames and Rasmus hitting in the high teens for home runs. I'd be shocked to see Escobar break more than 15 - with 10 being much more likely.

Nick O
04-07-2012, 11:23 PM
no... Jose , JP SHOULD.. EE wont. Escobar wont, I dont think Lawrie will personally i see 18 or 19. Lind will, Rasmus for sure will not, johnson wont i dont think Thames COULD . but they are maybes.. i honestly see 3 or 4

3mikee_
04-08-2012, 01:04 AM
yea no way this is happening.. maybe a couple those guys have a breakout season but I can't see all of them hitting over 20

will_87
04-08-2012, 12:10 PM
It is theoretically possible, but I don't see it as likely myself. I think that Bautista and Lind should hit 20+ home runs. The potential is there for the other players in the lineup (Escobar aside) to meet that as well. My opinion on the likelihoods are as follows:

I expect to hit 20+: Bautista, Lind
Probably can hit 20+: Lawrie, Arencibia
Have in the past, but I don't know if they'll get there this year: Johnson, Encarnacion
Wild Cards: Thames, Rasmus
Nope: Escobar

Bob_at_york
10-03-2012, 01:09 PM
at the moment we have 3 guys with 20 or more home runs.

MrForever
10-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Can you bring up some more predictions threads?

Bob_at_york
10-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Can you bring up some more predictions threads?

I don't have the time for it. I was looking for a different thread when I found this one and thought this would help us look back on the season and what we feel went wrong.

wagnall
10-03-2012, 02:38 PM
So I haven't seen this thread in so long, I start reading all the posts and going like WTF are all these guys talking about, then after 2 pages I see the posts were from April.
I got to give me one of these.....:facepalm:

pebloemer
10-03-2012, 03:19 PM
Lol, love it. I don't remember this thread, but it is quite humorous to look back on.

adid727
10-03-2012, 09:42 PM
lol "EE hitting "10-15" hrs" lol..."Thames hitting 20".... april fools.