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sacgiants1213
04-01-2012, 04:56 PM
Benches empty. Ubaldo clearly throwing at #Rockies Tulo. Then waves at him, ready to fight. Wow!

https://twitter.com/#!/psaundersdp/status/186550358334640128


Ubaldo after he hit Tulowitzki pounded his chest and walked toward Tulowitzki. Both benches emptied. #Indians. #Rockies.

https://twitter.com/#!/hoynsie/status/186551222566793216


For those asking: earlier this spring, Tulowitzki said bluntly that Ubaldo should just pitch and stop talking about his COL past issues.

https://twitter.com/#!/Buster_ESPN/status/186555381206626304

es0terik
04-01-2012, 04:59 PM
Ubaldo after he hit Tulowitzki pounded his chest and walked toward Tulowitzki. Both benches emptied. #Indians. #Rockies.

What a boss!

the_jon
04-01-2012, 05:01 PM
Ubaldo smash!

sacgiants1213
04-01-2012, 05:02 PM
Here's the article with Tulo's comments:


SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- You bet the Rockies hear former teammate Ubaldo Jimenez rhapsodizing about his new home in Cleveland while taking shots at Colorado in the process.

And Troy Tulowitzki and Carlos Gonzalez have heard enough.

"I don't like bad-mouthing people," Tulowitzki told CBSSports.com Friday. "But it's tough to hear those things.

"While I've been here, everybody's been treated fairly. There's a certain point in this game where you go play and you shut your mouth. And you don't worry about what other people are doing."

"Sometimes players need a different place to play, a different atmosphere," Gonzalez told CBSSports.com.

While Jimenez says Cleveland "is like being in heaven" and says "it was kind of hard being with the Rockies" and admits unhappiness over the fact that Tulowitzki and CarGo were awarded big contracts, the two of them call bull.

Tulowitzki signed a 10-year, $157.75 million deal with the Rockies following the 2010 season. Gonzalez inked a seven-year, $80 million deal later that winter.

Jimenez signed a four-year, $10 million deal before the 2009 season.

"The problem was, we all had great seasons [in 2010]," Gonzalez said. "Tulo got an extension, I got an extension, and he didn't because he was under contract. He took a contract earlier than me and Tulo.

"Sometimes, you make decisions that hurt you later. You have to realize that no one forces you to do anything in this game. Every decision you make is going to be there for the rest of your life.

"Once you make a contract decision, it's always going to be there. As players, we just need to be smart about it. When you decide to sign a contract, you have to be smart about it."

Jimenez went 15-12 in '09 after signing his deal, then had a breakout season in 2010 in which he went 19-8 with a 2.88 ERA, including firing a no-hitter at Atlanta in April.

But jealousy set in almost from the very beginning in 2011 over the new deals granted Tulowitzki and Gonzalez, several Rockies say.

While the Rockies raced out of the gate 17-8 last season, Jimenez started 0-3 with a 6.67 ERA.

It was clear as early as the season's first month that Jimenez had mentally checked out.

"You try to get a feel for a teammate, and we can't get anything back," Tulowitzki said. "People ask, 'Well, he's your teammate, don't you know what's wrong with him?'

"We tried to ask him. And we couldn't get anything in return."

That made for a very uncomfortable clubhouse almost from the Day One.

"Without a doubt," Tulowitzki said. "You don't know what the deal is. You begin hearing trade rumors, and once those started flying, you don't hear a guy say, 'This is the place I want to be.' You don't hear a guy say, 'I don't want to be traded.'

"When you have a situation like that from a team standpoint, you think the guy wants to leave."

Gonzalez said he ran into Jimenez at dinner the other night at Ra Sushi in Scottsdale, and that it was good to see his former teammate. It was the first time the two had seen each other since the trade, Gonzalez said, and "we all wish him the best because he's a great person and a great athlete."

But as for the idea that players are treated more fairly in Cleveland than in Colorado, Gonzalez, earning $5 million this year and $7.5 million next year before his contract shoots up to $10.5 million in 2014, $16 million in 2015, $17 million in 2016 and $20 million in 2017 (while Jimenez will earn $4.2 million this summer), doesn't want to hear it.

"We play baseball, from my standpoint since I was about one-year-old, because we love it," Gonzalez said. "That's what I love. That's what I do. I started playing the game not because of the money, but because it's what I like. We don't play for contracts. There's no other reason than to play the game we love the most.

"When you make those decisions, you have to be smart and then you have to be happy. If you think you deserve more money, no. It's what you get. It's nobody's fault."

Gonzalez noted that he's been through two trades himself.

"Now," he said, "I feel like Denver's heaven."

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/scott-miller/17687402/tulowitzski-cargo-rip-former-teammate-ubaldo-jimenez

CHRISDODGERS
04-01-2012, 05:02 PM
Tulo would **** up Ubaldo anyway

es0terik
04-01-2012, 05:03 PM
COTTSDALE, Ariz — A war of words turned ugly today as the Indians' Ubaldo Jimenez hit Rockies' shortstop Troy Tulowitzki in the back with a fastball on the first pitch of his at-bat.

Jimenez then raced toward the plate in the first inning, motioning for Tulowitzki to come toward him. Teammmates quickly got between the players as benches emptied. Tulowitzki left the game for a pinch-runner. And Jimenez was not ejected.

If that doesn't get Ubaldo ejected, what the hell did Ozzie Guillen do earlier this spring that got him tossed?

Wisdom Listens
04-01-2012, 05:05 PM
Jimenez is upset because he found out he's only an average pitcher afterall.

ESaady
04-01-2012, 05:10 PM
Ubaldo should peg everyone who makes more money than him.

es0terik
04-01-2012, 05:16 PM
Maybe he's also mad that Justin Masterson is better than him.

TO Rapz
04-01-2012, 05:24 PM
Here's the article with Tulo's comments:



http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/scott-miller/17687402/tulowitzski-cargo-rip-former-teammate-ubaldo-jimenez

Cargo's a ****ing boss. :love:

es0terik
04-01-2012, 05:27 PM
Off topic, Cargo and Tulo both struck out each time they came to bat (3 times each) against Darvish lol.

tp13baby
04-01-2012, 05:32 PM
Theres an article that has Tulo rips Ubaldo. haha I find this funny because Ubaldo can't find his groove. I liked him but what a punk.

OneTuzSea
04-01-2012, 05:38 PM
As badass as it sounds, Ulbado is just being ****ing childish. Try to not suck before you go around thumping your chest.

ichitownclowni
04-01-2012, 05:41 PM
Lol awesome

Webslinger
04-01-2012, 05:44 PM
He can't help it, he's just one of those types of players.

ichitownclowni
04-01-2012, 05:48 PM
Lol does anyone have a video. this is classic

BroadStBullies
04-01-2012, 05:52 PM
Anyone have a video?

Super.
04-01-2012, 06:01 PM
The people demand video!

VenezuelanMet
04-01-2012, 06:04 PM
Wow, lost all respect for Ubaldo there.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
04-01-2012, 06:05 PM
Was there anything we didn't know about them in the clubhouse when Ubaldo was in Colorado?

LASportsFan1996
04-01-2012, 06:05 PM
LOL Nice

sf-fanatic
04-01-2012, 06:11 PM
Is this april fools joke or did it really happen? lol

grandsalami
04-01-2012, 06:15 PM
he is at the hospital getting x-rays

Giants-49ers-Ws
04-01-2012, 06:26 PM
video plz

infernoscurse
04-01-2012, 06:35 PM
Jimenez is upset because he found out he's only an average pitcher afterall.

x2 hes so freaking overrated for half of season of brilliance

infernoscurse
04-01-2012, 06:42 PM
http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2012/04/ubaldo_jimenez_hits_troy_tulow.html

tp13baby
04-01-2012, 06:49 PM
We put up 6 runs on Ubaldo in 4 innings. without cargo and Tulo today. Its crazy how far someone can fall. most dominant pitcher for half the season and now playing like a number 5 starter.

hopefully Tulo isn't injured to bad.

Arch Stanton
04-01-2012, 06:50 PM
Jordan Bastian ‏ @MLBastian

Ubaldo said Tulo was calling him names. That's why he challenged him to charge: "I'm a man. If somebody calls me out, I have to go."

Tragedy
04-01-2012, 06:54 PM
Ubaldo said after the game the hit by pitch was UNintentional. Haven't seen the video but it'd be silly to throw at someone on purpose in Spring.

infernoscurse
04-01-2012, 07:41 PM
https://p.twimg.com/Apbsc-OCQAEID8H.jpg

Lincecum4CY
04-01-2012, 07:50 PM
childish and stupid. Grow the **** up.

infernoscurse
04-01-2012, 07:57 PM
childish and stupid. Grow the **** up.

oh please.......

Bin Laden
04-01-2012, 08:14 PM
I bet neither one can fight

Katspinal1313
04-01-2012, 08:16 PM
First off if Ubaldo wanted to scrap throw behind the guy then challenge him. It's a little b**** move to use a weapon, Tulo should get one swing with the stick.

sacgiants1213
04-01-2012, 08:23 PM
#Rockies Jim Tracy calls Ubaldo Jimenez's drilling and challenging Troy Tuliwitzki "the most gutless act I've seen in 35 years in the game."

https://twitter.com/#!/harding_at_mlb/status/186605085479010305

Arch Stanton
04-01-2012, 08:45 PM
Sounds like there was no video. So why are people assuming they know what happened? Unless you were there... How do you know if he intentionally threw at him?

Buster Olney ‏ @Buster_ESPN

Umps at the game didn't read intent from Jimenez, apparently, because they didn't eject him. So can MLB discipline without video? We'll see.

Mudvayne91
04-01-2012, 09:17 PM
Off topic, Cargo and Tulo both struck out each time they came to bat (3 times each) against Darvish lol.

Has Darvish been pitching terrible? I wasn't able to watch it cause it wasn't on, but I did listen to the game. He sounded pretty dominating. Old man Giambi was able to crush one off him though if I memory serves correct.

Considering there was previous badmouthing back and forth in the season, I'd be surprised if Ubaldo is suspended. Although I was surprised the guy didn't get thrown out. Oh well, it's not like he pitched well after. For that matter, nobody pitched well on either side.

Mudvayne91
04-01-2012, 09:20 PM
Sounds like there was no video. So why are people assuming they know what happened? Unless you were there... How do you know if he intentionally threw at him?

Buster Olney ‏ @Buster_ESPN

Umps at the game didn't read intent from Jimenez, apparently, because they didn't eject him. So can MLB discipline without video? We'll see.

Like I said in the Indians forum, there's a recent history of bad blood between them. First thing he does is plunk him in the back? Not the 2nd, 3rd or 4th pitch. Right away, he hits him in the back. He would have had to have horrible command for it to be true. It's not very likely. I was also listening to it on the radio. The announcer sounded fairly certain it was on purpose. The whole crowd was booing Ubaldo. It doesn't look good to say the least.

edit - looks like it was the elbow
I bet neither one can fight

He's 6'3" and 215. He's pretty damn huge. I'd imagine he'd destroy you Mr. Laden.

Jeffy25
04-01-2012, 09:58 PM
Everything is just making Ubaldo look worse and worse.

Hard to see anything here that justifies Ubaldo

mark1125
04-01-2012, 10:13 PM
Everything is just making Ubaldo look worse and worse.

Hard to see anything here that justifies Ubaldo

Hard to do after his recent performances. Ubaldo is irrelevant, but now he is a doucher to boot. He is a hack who will have a horrendous year.

Mudvayne91
04-01-2012, 10:22 PM
Rockies have video evidence if the league would like to look into it according to Olney.

Lincecum4CY
04-01-2012, 10:22 PM
oh please.......

Oh please what? You don't think this whole situation is a joke? It's like a ****ing reality tv show where people making millions of dollars got their diapers wet and started drama.

Is this what the game has come down to? Players *****ing and fighting over who makes more and who has the better contract?

NateyB24
04-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Don't know which side to take on this one because if he really was hitting his chest then the umpires would of ejected him in my opinion but he does sound bitter towards the Rockies organization.

Mudvayne91
04-02-2012, 12:10 AM
He (Ubaldo) definitely did beat his chest and throw his glove down. The teams have video tape of it and multiple media sources confirmed it live.

lol, please
04-02-2012, 12:20 AM
oh please.......

Oh please what? You don't think this whole situation is a joke? It's like a ****ing reality tv show where people making millions of dollars got their diapers wet and started drama.

Is this what the game has come down to? Players *****ing and fighting over who makes more and who has the better contract? :clap:

NateyB24
04-02-2012, 12:21 AM
He (Ubaldo) definitely did beat his chest and throw his glove down. The teams have video tape of it and multiple media sources confirmed it live.

Kind of strange they didn't eject him then wonder if anything was done to provoke him to start beating his chest.

grandsalami
04-02-2012, 12:22 AM
http://t.co/HVLGA2p9

youtube video of the incident

Jeffy25
04-02-2012, 12:24 AM
photos

http://photos.denverpost.com/mediacenter/2012/04/photos-ubaldo-jimenez-hits-troy-tulowitzki/32887/#name%20here

Jeffy25
04-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Definitely intentional, and Ubaldo went right after him after he threw it.

Yeah, that is unjustifiable.

CarniifeX
04-02-2012, 12:40 AM
After watching the video, it looks somewhat unintentional.

It looks like the ball ran in but it wasn't too far in. It looked like a two-seamer that just got away.

It looks like Tulo then shouted out at and he flipped.

NateyB24
04-02-2012, 12:41 AM
After watching that video it looks Ubaldo definitely aimed to hit him on purpose.

Jeffy25
04-02-2012, 12:46 AM
When it's the first pitch you throw to a guy and you have that history with them, and you react before the hitter does of the ball hitting him.

Seems awfully intentional to me.

Mudvayne91
04-02-2012, 12:51 AM
After watching the video, it looks somewhat unintentional.

It looks like the ball ran in but it wasn't too far in. It looked like a two-seamer that just got away.

It looks like Tulo then shouted out at and he flipped.

Are you kidding? If he threw it any more behind him, he probably misses him. Tulo turns his back as a defense mechanism and in returns gets hit high in his outside elbow.

Of course he's going to be pissed with the crap said earlier and getting intentionally hit in a spring training game.

tp13baby
04-02-2012, 12:52 AM
Ubaldo would of got ****ed up.

NateyB24
04-02-2012, 12:57 AM
When it's the first pitch you throw to a guy and you have that history with them, and you react before the hitter does of the ball hitting him.

Seems awfully intentional to me.

It looks like Tulo instigates that part but no doubt Ubaldo aimed to hit him.

-Lavigne43-
04-02-2012, 01:21 AM
This is the official video from the Rockies camera http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7763956

Looks like Ubaldo reacted right after Tulo yelled at him, but that would be a really fast reaction to his words.

Mudvayne91
04-02-2012, 01:27 AM
Doesn't look like Rockies were the ones to release it. Not that it matters much, I suppose

https://twitter.com/#!/TroyRenck
ESPN showed video of Ubaldo from CF view. Rockies did not release it, but Indians had same view. Again be shocked if Ubaldo not suspended

Jeffy25
04-02-2012, 01:42 AM
Either way, Ubaldo went all the way to the plate to yell at Troy.

It's not like Tulo went after him, it's the opposite.

Katspinal1313
04-02-2012, 02:08 AM
Either way, Ubaldo went all the way to the plate to yell at Troy.

It's not like Tulo went after him, it's the opposite.

No kidding, if it wasn't intentionally then why when you plunk a guy first pitch on the damn elbow, worst spot to hit him thats exposed besides the face or hand to u react to him being upset but charging the plate. I don't think, knowing both these players that there is any doubt it was intentional. And Ubaldo can spin it any way he'd like to try to avoid suspension but it's clear it was a malicious act. And Jim Tracy is as mild mannered as they come, when he calls you a coward you know your a god damn douche bag.

I also have lost all respect for Ubaldo, and I'd challenge him if I saw him in person too. Nothing crazy, just a "hey there big man, your a coward, and if you'd like to play the millionare, whoa is me card, I'll take a piece of that action".

todu82
04-02-2012, 08:11 AM
There's no excuse for what Ubaldo did. The guy should be suspended for doing it.

pebloemer
04-02-2012, 08:25 AM
Oh please what? You don't think this whole situation is a joke? It's like a ****ing reality tv show where people making millions of dollars got their diapers wet and started drama.

Is this what the game has come down to? Players *****ing and fighting over who makes more and who has the better contract?

This. I want to watch baseball, not reality TV.

KaiserSose
04-02-2012, 10:34 AM
He hit him on purpose. They both knew what was coming and that is why they acted so quickly. Lets be honest here, neither of them wanted to fight or they would have.

Kelly Gruber
04-02-2012, 11:50 AM
Ubaldo would of got ****ed up.

My dad's tougher than your dad!

OneTuzSea
04-02-2012, 12:23 PM
He hit him on purpose. They both knew what was coming and that is why they acted so quickly. Lets be honest here, neither of them wanted to fight or they would have.

After watching the leaked video there is nooooooo way that wasn't on purpose.

SportsAndrew25
04-02-2012, 12:35 PM
What a dick move by Jimenez. Damn.

Algmuskrats
04-02-2012, 12:42 PM
Completely uncalled for.

GeronimoSon
04-02-2012, 01:13 PM
After watching the video of the incident a couple of times.. there is no doubt Ubaldo was attempting to go inside on Tulo to knock him off the plate and maybe a little bit more.... As far as intentionally trying to hurt him.. not a chance..

No suspension is warranted as there was no intent.. Move on boys..

Mudvayne91
04-02-2012, 01:38 PM
After watching the video of the incident a couple of times.. there is no doubt Ubaldo was attempting to go inside on Tulo to knock him off the plate and maybe a little bit more.... As far as intentionally trying to hurt him.. not a chance..

No suspension is warranted as there was no intent.. Move on boys..

He's not even hugging the plate here. Does he want to move him out of the batters box?

TeamGoku
04-02-2012, 01:43 PM
Any player who does stupid bull crap like this should be suspended for the entire year with out pay period. Crap like this is unexeptable, its no different then the crap down in new orleans

nithanyo
04-02-2012, 02:27 PM
Completely uncalled for.

apparently Tulo called him out.

Jiminez just reacted. If he was actually provoked i don't blame him. Its like the whole Zidan thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOwFLGW2ASg

iam brett favre
04-02-2012, 03:33 PM
Gutless. I loathe Ubaldo Jiminez.

Mudvayne91
04-02-2012, 03:34 PM
If this wasn't a premeditated thing, Tulo would be more to blame. I think you people aren't getting that. BTW, this is by far the best video http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7763956

long ball
04-02-2012, 03:40 PM
Did he try to hit him? Probably. Should he be suspended? **** no.

Philliefan90
04-02-2012, 04:14 PM
I just traded for Tulo before this incident, he better not be hurt, or im flying to Cleveland and kicking Ubaldo in the balls.

Arch Stanton
04-02-2012, 05:22 PM
Looks like he was pitching inside. It's not like he was head hunting.

twentysix
04-02-2012, 06:06 PM
H got 5 game ban.

-Lavigne43-
04-02-2012, 06:14 PM
Even if it was unintentional, which I find hard to believe, he still immediately charged home plate like an idiot.

NateyB24
04-02-2012, 06:17 PM
Looks like the Rockies are taking it out on the Mariners hit Peguero twice and now Montero in the head. Only kidding i know there not but man.

Mudvayne91
04-02-2012, 06:55 PM
Not good, hope they're ok.

Arch Stanton
04-02-2012, 07:50 PM
BS Suspension.

D-Will4Prez
04-02-2012, 08:11 PM
I agree with the 5 game ban. **** looked intentional to me. Even if it wasn't, he did a pretty bad job making it look like an accident. He'll only miss one start, got off easy if you ask me...that pitch could have easily ended Tulo's (and the Rockies') season.

GamerFTW
04-02-2012, 08:26 PM
Even if it was unintentional, which I find hard to believe, he still immediately charged home plate like an idiot.

Yeah his quickness to charge Tulo makes me think it wasn't to unintentional

Laces-Out
04-02-2012, 11:04 PM
he knew exactly what he was doing.... Star player of the team that traded him and with the first pitch no less.....gutless? yes