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sacgiants1213
03-31-2012, 02:15 PM
2011 Standings:

Arizona 94-68
Giants 86-76
Dodgers 82-79
Rockies 73-89
Padres 71-91

4 teams have a legitimate shot to win this division next year, but who do you all think will finish in 1st?

DodgerB24
03-31-2012, 02:21 PM
D-bags, Dodgers and Giants have a shot at it. Up in the air to be honest.

slvr&blck760
03-31-2012, 02:37 PM
A young Padres squad is quietly being built by the BEST farm system in MLB. Watch your backs this years, and years to come. Foolish to overlook the southernmost team in the NL west.

1903
03-31-2012, 02:40 PM
A young Padres squad is quietly being built by the BEST farm system in MLB. Watch your backs this years, and years to come. Foolish to overlook the southernmost team in the NL west.

It's more foolish to think they are ready to compete this season.

VRP723
03-31-2012, 02:42 PM
Voted the Dodgers for kicks, but I think the Giants and Diamondbacks are on par with one another, with the Dodgers a couple games behind. If I had to put odds I'd say Giants 40%, D'Backs 40%, Dodgers 20%

Jilly Bohnson
03-31-2012, 03:05 PM
I'd say it's a dogfight between the D'backs and Rockies. I think the Rockies are being criminally underrated(and not just here)

Shadowplay
03-31-2012, 03:17 PM
Going with my Diamondbacks. Giants second,Dodgers third, Rockies forth,Padres fifth.

koldjerky
03-31-2012, 03:20 PM
I'd say it's a dogfight between the D'backs and Rockies. I think the Rockies are being criminally underrated(and not just here)

They have very very very suspect pitching, on both ends.

I'd say Dbacks.

sacgiants1213
03-31-2012, 03:21 PM
Baseball Prospectus playoffs odds look like this: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

Giants 55.4
Dbacks 39.4
Padres 15.9
Rockies 14.9
Dodgers 9.7

Doesn't mean much, but just saying.

T 980
03-31-2012, 03:50 PM
Baseball Prospectus playoffs odds look like this: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

Giants 55.4
Dbacks 39.4
Padres 15.9
Rockies 14.9
Dodgers 9.7

Doesn't mean much, but just saying.

Off topic, but wow, zero percent chance of the Astros pulling an upset? Is that even possible? lol

Jilly Bohnson
03-31-2012, 03:54 PM
They have very very very suspect pitching, on both ends.

I'd say Dbacks.

True, but they're also going to probably have the best offense in the division, lightyears ahead of the Giants and Padres. I think the D'backs are the (slim) favorites, but think the Rockies need to be mentioned more. Especially, no offense to VRP, way more than the Dodgers.


Baseball Prospectus playoffs odds look like this: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

Giants 55.4
Dbacks 39.4
Padres 15.9
Rockies 14.9
Dodgers 9.7

Doesn't mean much, but just saying.

Thanks. Also for frame of reference, ZiPS has it like this:

Dbacks, 87 wins, 51.8%
Giants, 86 wins, 45.5%
Rockies, 85 wins, 38.8%
Padres, 75 wins, 6.9%
Dodgers, 72 wins, 3.4%

giants73756
03-31-2012, 04:31 PM
I don't think it's homerish of me to say the Giants are the favorites.

Jeffy25
03-31-2012, 04:39 PM
I'm probably alone in this, but I am rooting for the Rockies this year, I think they could surprise.

The NL West should be one of the closer races from first to last in any division, all five teams are relatively close. So I'll bet on the no pitching Rockies.

VRP723
03-31-2012, 04:41 PM
That's crazy to me, we'll see, but we won 82 games last season with every single player either playing on par of their potentials or below other than Matt Kemp and Javy Guerra.

LASportsFan1996
03-31-2012, 04:41 PM
Baseball Prospectus playoffs odds look like this: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/

Giants 55.4
Dbacks 39.4
Padres 15.9
Rockies 14.9
Dodgers 9.7

Doesn't mean much, but just saying.

These Odds Are Ridculous. Dodgers Have A Worse Chance Than The Rockies & SD? Stupid Odds.


A young Padres squad is quietly being built by the BEST farm system in MLB. Watch your backs this years, and years to come. Foolish to overlook the southernmost team in the NL west.

Padres Are Not Ready.

LASportsFan1996
03-31-2012, 04:43 PM
Division Is Always Wide Open. It's Gonna Be AZ, SF, Or LA Without A Doubt. We Shall See. GO DODGERS!

slvr&blck760
03-31-2012, 04:45 PM
It's more foolish to think they are ready to compete this season.

At least we'll compete for a championship instead of trying to purchase one. The Padres surprised everyone in 2010 and will turn heads again this season. A year with no ring for the Yankees is a great year for baseball.

1903
03-31-2012, 05:27 PM
At least we'll compete for a championship instead of trying to purchase one. The Padres surprised everyone in 2010 and will turn heads again this season. A year with no ring for the Yankees is a great year for baseball.

I guess I hurt your feelings.

LASportsFan1996
03-31-2012, 05:55 PM
At least we'll compete for a championship instead of trying to purchase one. The Padres surprised everyone in 2010 and will turn heads again this season. A year with no ring for the Yankees is a great year for baseball.

Dude You Are Being Serious Or Trolling? You Honestly Believe The Padres Are WS Contenders This Year? Foolish. And We Already Have An Owner So We Already Have Purchased Our Franchise

raiderNlakerfan
03-31-2012, 05:56 PM
I honestly dont know. I see LA,AZ,and SF all fightin for 1st all year if id have to make a decision tho id say
LA
AZ
SD
SF
COL

In that order. Last year we were a mess with the whole bankruptcy drama and eithier was not healthy.

LASportsFan1996
03-31-2012, 06:45 PM
No Way SD Finishes Above SF ^^^

giantspwn
03-31-2012, 07:13 PM
I don't really see how the Giants aren't favored to take the division. Unless you think Posey and half the rest of the team will hit the DL for a significant amount of time like last year.

lol, please
03-31-2012, 07:30 PM
I don't really see how the Giants aren't favored to take the division. Unless you think Posey and half the rest of the team will hit the DL for a significant amount of time like last year.This.

ciaban
03-31-2012, 07:50 PM
my friend who is a giants homer fan boy is under a delusion that the giants have it on lock down and gives the rockies/dodgers/padres a 1% chance each and a 7% chance to the d-bags,

that being said i think the d-bags:40% SF-ags: 35% LA:15% Rox:10% i will however give SD a 1% margin of error, because hey they almost won the division in 2010 and they appeared just as unlikely then as they do now lol

long ball
03-31-2012, 08:21 PM
For the sake of psd I hope its the d backs.

THINKBLUE15
03-31-2012, 09:17 PM
Douchebacks
VaGiants
Dodgers
Cockies
Madres

More-Than-Most
03-31-2012, 09:21 PM
Probably not the popular choice but I am sticking with the rockies...I picked them last year and will pick them again this year

Cheezombie
03-31-2012, 09:24 PM
Douchebacks
VaGiants
Dodgers
Cockies
Madres

heh

hagausaf
03-31-2012, 09:26 PM
Rockies. Not a Rox fan but if they go to the playoffs then so can I

LASportsFan1996
03-31-2012, 09:36 PM
Probably not the popular choice but I am sticking with the rockies...I picked them last year and will pick them again this year

Bad Pick Yosef.

THINKBLUE15
03-31-2012, 09:45 PM
People love the Rockies every year. Nothing new. Can't believe someone actually said they are UNDERRATED.

1903
03-31-2012, 10:01 PM
I picked the D'backs but it will be close with the Giants as long as they remain healthy and I doubt they can get any worse on offense.

CarniifeX
03-31-2012, 10:01 PM
It'll be either the Giants or Diamondbacks.

Arizona's got a good staff with Kennedy, Cahill and Hudson leading the way and their bullpen is decent as well. They have multiple offensive weapons with Upton, Montero, Young, Kubel, Goldshmidt and Aaron Hill.

San Francisco has one of the best staffs in the league headlined by Lincecum, Cain and Bumgarner. They're getting Posey back which is huge for them on both ends. Question is can he catch 130+ games? I like the pickups of Pagan and Melky as well as Gregor Blanco who could give them a spark at the top of the lineup.

Flip a coin.

Elway=goat
03-31-2012, 10:05 PM
Dbacks
Giants
Dodgers
Colorado
Padres

I think the Dbacks win by atleast 6 games. They have bar far the more balanced team, from Starting pitching and Bullpen to Lineup. They made some fantastic moves in the offseason, that just added more depth.

If Saunders and Culmentor are butt, they have enough prospects that are ready(imo), that they can throw them in and not worry too much about inexperience.

todu82
03-31-2012, 10:45 PM
San Francisco.

LakersLockdwn
04-01-2012, 06:59 AM
dodgers are guna get a big bat and maybe a pitcher at the deadline so who knows

the_jon
04-01-2012, 07:14 AM
Not sure who will win but Cahill should be pretty beast in the NL West.

BlinkManJan02
04-01-2012, 07:17 AM
zona

Jeffy25
04-01-2012, 11:32 AM
Dbacks
Giants
Dodgers
Colorado
Padres

I think the Dbacks win by atleast 6 games. They have bar far the more balanced team, from Starting pitching and Bullpen to Lineup. They made some fantastic moves in the offseason, that just added more depth.

If Saunders and Culmentor are butt, they have enough prospects that are ready(imo), that they can throw them in and not worry too much about inexperience.

It's too bad they basically gave Haren away and gave up Cargo and Anderson to get Haren originally.

And it's too bad the talent they gave up for Cahill, but Cahill himself is a fine pitcher overall.

leftymo
04-02-2012, 06:10 PM
This is most likely a two team race with AZ and SF... The Rockies are only a consideration b/c of their powerful offense, but if Jamie Moyer is seriously a contender for a starting spot, I highly question their pitching.

The Dodgers starting staff is probably the biggest weakness of their team. (that's why Hamels is a must for them)

Padres are a year away.

There's always a team that nobody expects to make a push, so that will be between the Dodgers/Padres/Rockies.

Pinstripe pride
04-03-2012, 09:58 AM
this division w9ll be a crap shoot, so i'll gve the defending champs their respect

Yankee Clipper
04-03-2012, 10:02 AM
I'm rolling with the D'Backs this year. I really like the way their rotation is set up for this season.

infernoscurse
04-03-2012, 10:03 AM
i picked the yankees

RTL
04-03-2012, 11:46 AM
I voted for the Dbacks as I see them being the best complete team. They have offense, defense, good rotation and bullpen plus a good bench. There isn't a real weakness to this team. The Giants will once again be weak offensively but no where near as bad as last year plus they don't have much pitching depth. The Dodgers will have to have a lot go right for them to be near contention such as Ellis and Uribe playing well, Ethier being healthy, Kemp staying at MVP caliber and the backend of that rotation holding up. The Rockies don't have the pitching plus 3B will once again be a question mark. The Padres are have holes everywhere. Just look at the teams and the Dbacks have a lot of talent and the least amount of holes of anyone.

dodgersuck
04-03-2012, 06:15 PM
It's going to be a tight race between the Giants and D'backs because of their pitching. I think my Giants will pull it out and win the division

stupidmop
04-03-2012, 06:30 PM
I would be shocked if the winner is not the Giants or Diamondbacks. I think the key for the Giants will be whether their offense can get them any support. It's really hard for them to be at or worse than last year. Given that I expect them to be a little better with the bat, and the pitching around the same, I think they will take the Div.

Dodgers are a darkhouse candidate to win, but I don't think they did enough to make their team better to win the division over the off-season. Although, they sure did end the season on a strong note last year. Will be good baseball watching some Lincecum/Kershaw matchups again.

RamOG
04-03-2012, 06:54 PM
my friend who is a giants homer fan boy is under a delusion that the giants have it on lock down and gives the rockies/dodgers/padres a 1% chance each and a 7% chance to the d-bags,

that being said i think the d-bags:40% SF-ags: 35% LA:15% Rox:10% i will however give SD a 1% margin of error, because hey they almost won the division in 2010 and they appeared just as unlikely then as they do now lol

Hopefully you were just uncomposed or perhaps uninhibited momentarily instead of being a complete homophobe there.

metsfaninSTL
04-03-2012, 11:37 PM
dbacks

tp13baby
04-03-2012, 11:59 PM
Im a believer in the D'Backs.
SF will pitch their way to the playoffs.
Dodgers is somewhat balanced but weak in areas.
Rockies have the best lineup in the division without pitching.
Padres are unlikely to do much.

D'Backs
SF
rockies
Dodgers
Padres

roylikeswaffles
04-04-2012, 06:08 AM
The Rockies have a fantastic lineup but when you have Guthrie and Moyer as your 1 and 2 starters, tough luck with that. I feel like the D-Back's rotation is softer than what many seem to think and their lineup isn't exactly unstoppable, so I'm conditionally leaning towards the Giants if Huff and Sanchez can produce. It'll be close though.

OutOfTHEBLUE
04-04-2012, 07:11 AM
If I were a betting man, I'd put money on the Diamondbacks. If the Giants could score any runs for their pitching staff then it'd be them.

Also worth noting is that new Dodgers ownership very well might make a big splash at the deadline, and that could have a huge impact on how it all plays out.

adab
04-04-2012, 09:27 AM
Not predicting win total, but am confident the Giants rotation and pen give them the best chance to win this division. THe offense is better than last year thanks to a full season (hopefully) from Buster Posey and some othert minor additions.
Arizona is still the main obstacle, but no way the Dodgers are as bad as last year. Colorado has too many holes in their rotation and the Padres will need a major miracle to finish above .450.