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AirJordanXVIII
03-28-2012, 08:30 PM
NEW YORK (AP)—Stan Van Gundy said Wednesday the notion that Kentucky could beat an NBA team is “absurd.”

The Orlando Magic coach was asked about comments by former Maryland coach Gary Williams, who told a Washington radio station that he thought the Wildcats could beat the NBA’s Wizards in one game at Rupp Arena.

The Wildcats, the favorites to win the NCAA championship next week, have multiple players who are expected to be NBA lottery picks. Forward Anthony Davis could be the No. 1 overall pick if he enters the draft.

That’s not enough for Van Gundy.

“Look, it’s absurd,” he said before the Magic faced the New York Knicks. “I mean, people will say, `Oh, Kentucky you know’s got four NBA players.’ Yeah, well the other team’s got 13.”

Van Gundy said the talent level, experience and age of the players would favor the NBA team, even one as bad as the Wizards (11-38).

“Could anything happen on a one-night thing? I mean, I suppose, you have major upsets all the time. So maybe, but it’d be rare and in a series it’d be a joke,” Van Gundy said. “It wouldn’t be close. That’s just the way it is. John Calipari’s got a lot of talent, he does not have 13 NBA players. He just doesn’t. And even if those guys all are, they’re all NBA rookies. I mean, when has that ever been a success in the NBA? So no, they’re not going to win.”



http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Av_qG8iYqEMvg0zcsS1RvHm8vLYF?slug=ap-vangundy-kentucky


They could probably beat the Bobcats... haha

Raps08-09 Champ
03-28-2012, 08:33 PM
All the players in the Bobcats are in the NBA(Top Tier level). Half the players on the Kentucky team won't go to the NBA.

I don't necessarily disagree with what he said.

ManRam
03-28-2012, 08:33 PM
He's right

:shrug:

They couldn't beat the Bobcats. Maybe once or twice out of 10...but not more often than not.

MrfadeawayJB
03-28-2012, 08:35 PM
He is exactly right. There was a thread that posed a similar question not too long ago and most posters agree with Van Gundy

*Silver&Black*
03-28-2012, 08:36 PM
6 on 6 they could. Kentucky's top 3 players will be top guys on 3 NBA teams next year. So take the top guy on the 3 worst NBA teams right now and you have Kentucky's team.

Saying every NBA team has top guys from college teams is a bad comparison when 2-3 Kentucky players will be "the guy" on an NBA team next year.

t_money25
03-28-2012, 08:48 PM
I got my money on the Wizards

RipCity32
03-28-2012, 08:49 PM
He is right no college team is going to beat a professional team.lol

mavwar53
03-28-2012, 08:54 PM
I don't see the big deal, as good as the 3 or 4 players are on UK they are all inexperienced and they do not have the skill yet to play as a whole team against any NBA team, if they were all seniors and going up against a team as bad as the Bobcats this year then they'd stand a decent chance probably winning 4 or 5 out of 10 but right now I wouldn't give them a chance of winning more than 1 in 20.

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-28-2012, 08:57 PM
They would probably beat this poor excuse of an Orlando Magic team that his currently getting whooped by an undermanned New York Knicks squad.

heyman321
03-28-2012, 09:06 PM
Even the Bobcats would win ten times out of ten. Most rookies won't come out killing it, with the exception of one usually who does decent. Look at all the draftees last year, not one is on a "good" team solely because of him.

RapsGuy23
03-28-2012, 09:07 PM
I agree with Stan. That being said I would hesitate to look too much into what Kentuckys coach said. His team is in the final four and anything he can say or do to build confidence is understandable. People tend to underestimate how talented NBA players are. Many have excelled in the NCAA and not moved onto the NBA. Futhermore many college players who had a stellar NCAA careers like JJ Reddick for example have not had the same success in the NBA... I'm not knocking JJ, he is a talented player, just want to emphasize that fact that college success by no means translates into NBA success.

No NBA team, even the bottom feeders would allow themselves to loose to a College team, too much pride, and far superior talent.

RaiderKid318
03-28-2012, 09:17 PM
bobcats would slaughter them guys, be ****ing for real here lol

AceMan
03-28-2012, 09:17 PM
Kentucky could ABSOLUTELY beat the Bobcats in one game. Don't give me that "everyone on the Bobcats was a star in college and half of Kentucky's roster won't play in the NBA" crap. Nobody on the Bobcats was remotely close to how good some of Kentucky's guys are now, and in one game you can get away with only playing 7 or 8 guys. Look at it this way: Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd Gilchrist, right now, are better than anyone on the Bobcats roster. Marquis Teague and Terrance Jones will both be NBA starters. Doron Lamb and Darius Miller will likely at least be contributors. Why can't those 6 guys and two scrubs beat a team FULL of scrubs in one game? Kentucky would have the two best players in the game, a far better coach, and enough surrounding talent to win. You can't tell me Kentucky couldn't beat the Bobcats.

chicagocubsfan
03-28-2012, 09:22 PM
Kentucky could ABSOLUTELY beat the Bobcats in one game. Don't give me that "everyone on the Bobcats was a star in college and half of Kentucky's roster won't play in the NBA" crap. Nobody on the Bobcats was remotely close to how good some of Kentucky's guys are now, and in one game you can get away with only playing 7 or 8 guys. Look at it this way: Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd Gilchrist, right now, are better than anyone on the Bobcats roster. Marquis Teague and Terrance Jones will both be NBA starters. Doron Lamb and Darius Miller will likely at least be contributors. Why can't those 6 guys and two scrubs beat a team FULL of scrubs in one game? Kentucky would have the two best players in the game, a far better coach, and enough surrounding talent to win. You can't tell me Kentucky couldn't beat the Bobcats.

no way UK would beat the Bobcats. Bismack would absolutely dominate.

Hawkeye15
03-28-2012, 09:24 PM
Of course no college team in history could beat the worst NBA teams. The worst NBA team is littered with all American caliber college players. The Bobcats would win 10/10 times against the Wildcats.

crewfan13
03-28-2012, 09:25 PM
I don't think Kentucky has the perimeter defense or depth to beat an nba team. I think a pro team has the guards to expose Kentucky's lack of perimeter defense and get Davis into foul trouble. Once Kentucky had to go to the bench, they'd be in deep trouble. Also, I think a pro team would dominate on the glass. Davis goes for the block almost every time leaving an experienced nba big guy on the weak side free. I think most of the time the nba team would win handily.

northsider
03-28-2012, 09:26 PM
Uhh it's cause he is absolutely right.

I mean how often do you see rookies come up and immediately perform let alone they only have 4-5 guys who would even crack an NBA roster. Maybe a 1 out of a 100 shot but, I would put everything that the worst NBA team beats the best college team and it isn't even close.

I mean even with 4-5 possible NBA guys what are they going to do keep them out their the entire ****ing time??? An NBA team would be running circles around these guys and allot of it is based on their know how of the game itself. College players are still very raw coming into the NBA.

RapsGuy23
03-28-2012, 09:26 PM
Kentucky could ABSOLUTELY beat the Bobcats in one game. Don't give me that "everyone on the Bobcats was a star in college and half of Kentucky's roster won't play in the NBA" crap. Nobody on the Bobcats was remotely close to how good some of Kentucky's guys are now, and in one game you can get away with only playing 7 or 8 guys. Look at it this way: Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd Gilchrist, right now, are better than anyone on the Bobcats roster. Marquis Teague and Terrance Jones will both be NBA starters. Doron Lamb and Darius Miller will likely at least be contributors. Why can't those 6 guys and two scrubs beat a team FULL of scrubs in one game? Kentucky would have the two best players in the game, a far better coach, and enough surrounding talent to win. You can't tell me Kentucky couldn't beat the Bobcats.

You're joking right? Unless I'm mistaken no one on Kentucky has played in the NBA. Every player on the Bobcats are NBA players. Not in theory, not hopefully, not probably but in reality. Your point is not only obsure but its completely hypathetical. "Srubs" don't make it into the NBA. Obviously there is a range of talent in the NBA, not everyone is a franchise player, allstar or even a starter for that matter. But to suggest that the Bobcats roster is compossed of players who are inferior to a college basketball team of which the accumulated NBA playing experience is ZERO is outright nonsense.

VRP723
03-28-2012, 09:28 PM
Kentucky could ABSOLUTELY beat the Bobcats in one game. Don't give me that "everyone on the Bobcats was a star in college and half of Kentucky's roster won't play in the NBA" crap. Nobody on the Bobcats was remotely close to how good some of Kentucky's guys are now, and in one game you can get away with only playing 7 or 8 guys. Look at it this way: Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd Gilchrist, right now, are better than anyone on the Bobcats roster. Marquis Teague and Terrance Jones will both be NBA starters. Doron Lamb and Darius Miller will likely at least be contributors. Why can't those 6 guys and two scrubs beat a team FULL of scrubs in one game? Kentucky would have the two best players in the game, a far better coach, and enough surrounding talent to win. You can't tell me Kentucky couldn't beat the Bobcats.

Augustine was better than Teague in college, let alone now he's 4 years older and in his physical prime.

Gerald Henderson was better than Terrance Jones. Maggette was better tha Darius Miller or Lamb or whoever.

Kemba was better than MGK.

Tyrus Thomas at the very least could contain Davis.

Not only would Charlotte win, they'd kick the **** out of them.

northsider
03-28-2012, 09:31 PM
Augustine was better than Teague in college, let alone now he's 4 years older and in his physical prime.

Gerald Henderson was better than Terrance Jones. Maggette was better tha Darius Miller or Lamb or whoever.

Kemba was better than MGK.

Tyrus Thomas at the very least could contain Davis.

Not only would Charlotte win, they'd kick the **** out of them.

This x10000000.

Hawkeye15
03-28-2012, 09:33 PM
Augustine was better than Teague in college, let alone now he's 4 years older and in his physical prime.

Gerald Henderson was better than Terrance Jones. Maggette was better tha Darius Miller or Lamb or whoever.

Kemba was better than MGK.

Tyrus Thomas at the very least could contain Davis.

Not only would Charlotte win, they'd kick the **** out of them.

exactly. Its utterly ridiculous that anyone would suggest a great college team could handle an NBA team. First off, every single player on the Bobcats has proven they are NBA talent. Some of them were all American talents, and on great college teams too. They would crush Kentucky, who has to use guys in their rotations that couldn't get a minute in the D-League.

Ladies Man
03-28-2012, 09:41 PM
Van Gundy is right.. But, I still think they can beat the Bobcats

beasted86
03-28-2012, 09:43 PM
At the end of the day it's men against boys. The first thing out of every college players mouth after a couple games in the league is they are surprised by the speed and physicality... and this is often from some of the top athletes in the nation coming out of college saying the same thing.

The average crappy NBA team would handily beat up on the best college team.

FraziersKnicks
03-28-2012, 09:45 PM
UK wouldn't stand a chance against any NBA team

waveycrockett
03-28-2012, 09:49 PM
He is right Kentucky would get demolished by even the worst NBA team. The Wizards would destroy them.

JasonJohnHorn
03-28-2012, 09:58 PM
All the players in the Bobcats are in the NBA(Top Tier level). Half the players on the Kentucky team won't go to the NBA.

I don't necessarily disagree with what he said.

Kentucky would be lucky if THREE people on the roster had long NBA careers. There is no way, even the WORST NBA team would lose to a college team. The college team just wouldnt have the depth to be competative at more than one position.

waveycrockett
03-28-2012, 10:00 PM
Every single starter on the Bobcats was a monster in college and are way better today than they were then. They would kill Kentucky

GodsSon
03-28-2012, 10:09 PM
Agreed with pretty much everyone else.

Do you think anybody on Kentucky could body a guy like Maggette? As much as he's seen as a scrub in NBA circles, the guy would absolutely abuse the kids on Kentucky. It wouldn't even be fair.

LongIslandIcedZ
03-28-2012, 10:09 PM
Even if Davis, Lamb, and MKG go on to have all star careers, they would lose to the Bobcats every time

1908_Cubs
03-28-2012, 10:14 PM
Any NBA team would beat Kentucky if played enough.

I think Kentucky could get hot, and win a game here or there. Certainly. They could get lucky and win a game. If the worst NBA team can get lucky and beat the best, the best NCAA team can get lucky and beat the worst NBA team. Once.

Do I think Kentucky could beat an NBA team? Sure if all things fell perfectly. I don't think they're better than an NBA team. and that's the real root of the question.

Iodine
03-28-2012, 10:29 PM
Kemba was an elite college player.

Eduardo Najera was a 3rd team all american

DJ Augustine was a 1st team all american

Hendo was a 3rd teamer
Matt Carroll was a 20/5 player as a senior
Derrick Brown was 14/6 as a junior with insane efficiency
Bad Porn was one of the first one and done players
TT was 12/9 as a freshman
DJ White was 2nd team all american
Reggie Williams was a 23/7/3 college player over 4 years.

That doesnt include Bismack/Gana/Higgins
So yeah, excuse me while I laugh at the notion a college team could touch them.

Crackadalic
03-28-2012, 10:31 PM
lol Kentucky would make the bobcats look like the dynasty bulls. Come on now

DoubleDragon
03-28-2012, 10:35 PM
Not a chance. Van Gundy's right. Wizards, Bobcats, either or would whoop the ***** out of the top college team. Period. If you think they could, you're probably 12 or don't watch much basketball.

ridiculous.

Rivera
03-28-2012, 10:36 PM
i think kentucky could beat the wizards or bobcats...they have the #1 and #2 pick in the nba draft...not to mention marquis teague/terrance jones/derron lamb are all future 1st round picks

plus its basketball kentucky plays good d to the point where one of those two teams can have night offs


EDIT: not to mention kentucky might just might have the 2 best players on the floor if kentucky played the bobcats or wizards (AD and MKG)

Iodine
03-28-2012, 10:45 PM
Because there is 100% no way any of them busts or dissapoints?

And what happens when they have to use bench players?

Plus if they were put in the NBA they would player many MANY more games a week

theheatles
03-28-2012, 10:48 PM
the only college team that could beat pro teams was the 2001 miami hurricanes

Rivera
03-28-2012, 10:56 PM
Because there is 100% no way any of them busts or dissapoints?

And what happens when they have to use bench players?

Plus if they were put in the NBA they would player many MANY more games a week

but what happens if terrance jones is better than advertised because hes playing with AD and MKG? than kentucky would have 3 out of 4 of the best players and teague and lamb both can shoot which is all you need from them

you never know :shrug: they could be bust? they could be as advertised? jones is a big wildcard

theheatles
03-28-2012, 10:56 PM
the only college team that could beat pro teams was the 2001 miami hurricanes footb

youngMan
03-28-2012, 11:01 PM
the only college team that could beat pro teams was the 2001 miami hurricanes footb

Being a Cane fan I feel this way lol...

But yes, any NBA team could dominate Kentucky...no debating this topic, don't even see why its mentioned.

justinnum1
03-28-2012, 11:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GoR28LILo

Iodine
03-28-2012, 11:03 PM
So what happens when they have to use their bench?

Or they you know, get matched athletically

dhopisthename
03-28-2012, 11:37 PM
the wildcats might have a chance if they were all in their primes, but right now they would be destroyed. I mean look up some rookie numbers and that is what you will be getting from them. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if most dleauge teams could beat the wildcats

Laces-Out
03-28-2012, 11:46 PM
no, no umm Hell no... they be beat by 20

BigBongTheory
03-29-2012, 12:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-GoR28LILo

Whatever you can put together, Okay? Whatever you can put together, Put it together okay?

That is some amazing stuff for sure lol. He's got some moves though.

Evolution23
03-29-2012, 12:07 AM
That's why I don't watch college ball. As exciting as it is I rather see the highest level of competition.

Birdmannn
03-29-2012, 12:14 AM
No chance they would beat any NBA team haha

krazylegz
03-29-2012, 12:21 AM
whoever thinks that kentucky would be an nba team must have sprinkled pcp in their cornflakes this morning

meloman1592
03-29-2012, 12:26 AM
Out of 10 games the Wildcats would lose 10 times by at least 15 points every single time...come on now

SMH!
03-29-2012, 12:32 AM
It's embarrassing if anyone really thinks any college team would beat ANY NBA team in a series, it be hard enough to even win a game.

Sactown
03-29-2012, 01:25 AM
John wall would have so many career highs lol.. I'm a huge UK fan, but nobody on that team is as physically gifted as John Wall

Raph12
03-29-2012, 01:48 AM
They wouldn't stand a shot, maybe if Wall and Cousins stayed back they'd have a chance to steal a game or two against the Bobcats in a series:

PG - Wall
SG - Lamb
SF - Kidd-Gilchrist
PF - Davis
C - Cousins

But they'd all have to play a minimum of 40mins per game and would probably still finish last in the NBA.

greg_ory_2005
03-29-2012, 01:59 AM
No college team will ever be able to beat an NBA team. Why do people make threads about this?

Byronicle
03-29-2012, 02:05 AM
A wildcat is about the size of a domestic housecat and a bobcat is much, much bigger and heavier than a wildcat

so team bobcat vs team wildcat would win 100%

Cfrey
03-29-2012, 02:37 AM
this is just silly really

people forget about Kemba Walker... REALLY THO?? how can you forget about him?? acting like he was a scrub and ****??

this kentucky is just stupid... maybe if you put this team back together in 5 years after we see where these players go with their careers but right now?? thats just foolish

Valkyrie
03-29-2012, 03:00 AM
I look at it like this

The Bobcats can beat the Heat, Bulls, Thunder etc 1-2 times out of 10. Can Kentucky? No.

/Thread

Cfrey
03-29-2012, 03:01 AM
you are just gonna close it like that man? dont declare the thread yet cause i gotta say bobcat gang or die

now

/thread

Valkyrie
03-29-2012, 03:06 AM
shutup. you shutup right now.

Kyle N.
03-29-2012, 03:59 AM
This topic comes up every year. Never ever not possibly EVER will a college team beat an NBA team. You're delusional if you think so. Everybody else has summed it up perfectly.

Ebbs
03-29-2012, 04:36 AM
Of course no college team in history could beat the worst NBA teams. The worst NBA team is littered with all American caliber college players. The Bobcats would win 10/10 times against the Wildcats.

This.

Tai_chi_bbc
03-29-2012, 04:37 AM
Why does everyone that supports this says Kentucky has 2 best players? Ill give ya Anthony Davis for the sake of the argument but just based on college and not experience MKG and Kemba Walker...
MKG 12 PPG 7.6 RPG 1.9 APG .9 BPG and 1 SPG
Kemba 23.5 PPG 4.5 APG 5.4 RBP .2 BPG and 1.9 SPG
Kemba was an absolute monster last year and now has another year experience with NBA coaches

Sactown
03-29-2012, 04:55 AM
Why does everyone that supports this says Kentucky has 2 best players? Ill give ya Anthony Davis for the sake of the argument but just based on college and not experience MKG and Kemba Walker...
MKG 12 PPG 7.6 RPG 1.9 APG .9 BPG and 1 SPG
Kemba 23.5 PPG 4.5 APG 5.4 RBP .2 BPG and 1.9 SPG
Kemba was an absolute monster last year and now has another year experience with NBA coaches I'd take MKG a legit defensive monster and incredible work ethic at SF over an undersized scoring PG any day of the week

PurpleJesus
03-29-2012, 05:06 AM
it is absurd to think Kentucky could beat any NBA team. CHA for example would win 100+ to 50ish.

king4day
03-29-2012, 10:55 AM
We've seen what teams full of rookies do. Not well. Imagine a team with only rookies? Most of which will never see the light of day on an NBA court? The Wiz would mop up Kentucky. Tell me who will stop Nene? He'd probably have 50 and 20

krazylegz
03-29-2012, 01:51 PM
the bobcats wouldnt have lost to the indiana hoosiers on a buzzer beater.....FACT

BKLYNpigeon
03-29-2012, 02:20 PM
the Bobcats would beat them by 30 point easily.

BKLYNpigeon
03-29-2012, 02:21 PM
I think a D-league team would beat Kentucky.

eddiev22
03-29-2012, 02:29 PM
I agree with Stan, I dont think that would ever happen in my lifetime

Rivera
03-29-2012, 02:34 PM
We've seen what teams full of rookies do. Not well. Imagine a team with only rookies? Most of which will never see the light of day on an NBA court? The Wiz would mop up Kentucky. Tell me who will stop Nene? He'd probably have 50 and 20

anthony davis can stop nene that kid is really gifted...and ill go as far as anthony davis is better than nene

kubernetes
03-29-2012, 02:52 PM
The same claim comes up every once in a while regarding college fb and the NFL, and the response is the same as here: No way, no how.

As good as Kentucky is, remember who they play. Every game is against a team full of scrubs and maybe--maybe-- one or two future NBA players. NBA teams are full of current NBA players. Same with college football--even the best teams have a handful of high draft picks at best.

IMO this is why college bball and fball are so exciting to watch: When a couple superstars play against glorified HS scrubs, they look like golden gods. When they go to the pros, everyone is at that level.

SwatTeam
03-29-2012, 03:22 PM
Well, I think Coach Williams said Kentucky could beat the Wizards if the Wizards were on their 3rd game on a back to back to back and at Kentucky's arena. Still, I think Kentucky would get shat on. But I think this brings up an interesting proposition. Why not play the Wizards against the Wildcats? This happens a lot with interleague games between european teams and NBA teams in the pre-season. I mean this could be great publicity every year and give lots of money to the both the NBA and NCAA.

Here's my idea:
Game would be played every year between worst NBA team and NCAA champion at the end of the NBA regular season just before the NBA playoffs begin. Give college basketball champion team a month or so to prepare for the game. Basically, an appetizer type game before the playoffs begin.

NBA team has to play under college basketball rules and at the College Basketball teams home arena. Basically, anything that stacks the deck against the pro team.

Injuries would be the only concern but this is basketball not football. Again, I think this could bring lots of interest and money to both the NBA and NCAA. I'd definitely watch.

nysportsfan02
03-29-2012, 03:27 PM
Nene would physically abuse UK's front court.

As talented as Davis may be, he's still a raw 19 year old and doesn't have experience yet against NBA talent. Wall was also a star in college, Crawford was a good scorer and you assume he developed, Singleton a 1st round pick, etc. UK would lose to any NBA team. Charlotte, Washington, Toronto, whoever.

dhopisthename
03-29-2012, 03:29 PM
anthony davis can stop nene that kid is really gifted...and ill go as far as anthony davis is better than nene

nene would foul davis out in 12 minutes

gwrighter
03-29-2012, 03:44 PM
Let me put it this way. Italy's national team played BYU during the summer in an exhibition game and Bargnani grabbed 19 rebounds while Italy beat them by 32.

Rivera
03-29-2012, 04:21 PM
Let me put it this way. Italy's national team played BYU during the summer in an exhibition game and Bargnani grabbed 19 rebounds while Italy beat them by 32.

yea but whos BYU??? was jimmer even playing? and even if he was bargnani is still the best player on that floor....id bet kentucky would beat italys national team and would beat BYU by a BIGGER margin than italys national team if they tried to do so

MetsAllTheWay
03-29-2012, 04:52 PM
theres no way kentucky would beat an nba team. if they played ten times maybe once. look at the bobcats they have kemba walker, gerald henderson, maggate and tyrus thomas who were all studs in college

detzfish
03-29-2012, 05:27 PM
kentucky couldnt beat an nba team..end of story

SteveNash
03-29-2012, 06:04 PM
It's like saying a team led by Anthony Randolph and Wesley Johnson could beat NBA teams. Just a joke.

jayjay33
03-29-2012, 06:39 PM
What are the rules? If it's college rules on a college court they could defiantly win 1 or 2 out of 10. play zone against a bad shooting team on a bad shooting night and anything can happen. No dotted circle to protect against the charge, no iso's. Sure they could win 1 or 2.

PatsSoxKnicks
03-29-2012, 07:22 PM
Basketball Prospectus took a statistical look at this:


What if Kentucky Played in the NBA?

by Kevin Pelton

It’s almost an annual right of passage that, at some point each spring, someone brings up the question of whether the best NCAA team could beat the worst NBA team. Last Sunday, that someone was Charles Barkley, who opined on CBS after Kentucky’s easy win over Baylor in the regional final that the Wildcats could beat the Toronto Raptors. Why Barkley picked on the poor Raptors, who had just taken the NBA’s best team to overtime the night before and have a better record than three Eastern Conference teams, is unclear. The message spread virally nonetheless, until a bemused Stan Van Gundy (which is, of course, the best Stan Van Gundy) tried to end it before last night’s Orlando Magic game.

“Look, it’s absurd,” Van Gundy told reporters. “I mean, people will say, ‘Oh, Kentucky you know’s got four NBA players.’ Yeah, well the other team’s got 13.”

Maybe Van Gundy’s response is all this meme deserves; the advantages for any NBA team in this scenario are patently obvious. Nonetheless, I decided to take it seriously. Using my NCAA-to-NBA translations, adjusted to remove the year of aging NBA rookies get credit for, I projected stats for the seven players in the Wildcats’ rotation. Then, with John Calipari’s two years as head coach of the New Jersey Nets serving as team context at the defensive end, I plugged Kentucky into SCHOENE’s projections as a 31st NBA team. The results were not pretty. According to SCHOENE, the Wildcats would average 81.1 points per game and surrender 105.6, far and away the worst margin in NBA history.

Based on player translations, the presence of one Anthony Davis and Calipari’s history, SCHOENE observes that Kentucky would be competent at the defensive end, though still worst in the league. On offense, however, the Wildcats project as scoring 15.3 fewer points per 100 possessions than anyone else in the NBA, a stat that will not be part of National Kentucky’s Offense is Even Better Than its Defense Month.

The same balance that makes the Wildcats tough for NCAA foes to stop would work against in the NBA; nobody on the roster projects as using more than 15.4 percent of his team’s plays at the pro level, which means the adjustment in SCHOENE that forces usage to equal 100 percent for teams devastates already middling efficiency. In particular, point guard Marquis Teague would struggle if forced to play against NBA opponents every night, with a projected 1.35 assist-to-turnover ratio. Aside from Davis, the shooting percentages we project for the roster as part of their NBA stats are ugly:


Player PPG RPG APG FG%

Anthony Davis 14.5 11.8 1.2 .482
Doron Lamb 13.0 3.1 1.6 .349
Terrence Jones 13.0 8.6 1.6 .379
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 11.8 8.7 2.1 .370
Darius Miller 10.1 3.2 2.5 .368
Marquis Teague 9.6 2.9 5.4 .310
Kyle Wiltjer 9.2 4.1 0.9 .322

Would this team win a game? Using Pythagorean expectations, yes. Over the 66-game season, we’d expect them to win 1.6 games–though surely there would be times NBA Kentucky would go 0-66. Most likely, a win would come at the hands of the lowly Charlotte Bobcats. Based on the Wildcats’ projected .024 Pythagorean winning percentage and the Bobcats’ actual .124 Pythagorean mark, the log5 method says Kentucky would win about one out of seven games head-to-head. Against Toronto, that same expectation is one in 23 games. And against Chicago, it’s one in 143, which makes it more lopsided than a 1-16 matchup.

So the Wildcats could beat an NBA team, but it’s not especially likely, even in a simulation that generally makes favorable assumptions. I didn’t penalize Kentucky at all for depth, which is the biggest obstacle to this entire question. Calipari can use a seven-man rotation with occasional contributions from Eloy Vargas over 40-minute college games without any real injuries. (Terrence Jones, with two, is the only ‘Cat regular to miss a game.) Doing the same over 66 games and 48 minutes a night is a different issue, and Kentucky doesn’t have another player outside the top eight who has seen more than 44 minutes of action all season. By contrast, even deep Charlotte reserve Cory Higgins, a rookie who might be the worst player in the NBA this year, averaged 32.2 minutes per game for a good Colorado team as a senior.

The numbers confirm what we already suspected: the best college teams just don’t compare to the worst the NBA has to offer.

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=906

Yeah, so Kentucky's chances are terrible. And this is with an optimistic projection for Kentucky as he didn't include depth or minutes in the projections.

Oh and in case anyone is curious, Kentucky's 1 in 7 chances are about the same odds that a 14 seed has vs. a 3 seed (actually the 14 seed has very slightly better odds). But of course, this is a conservative projection. In reality, when considering depth, Kentucky's odds would be even lower.

NoahH
03-29-2012, 07:55 PM
Kentucky:
PG M. Teague
SG Miller
SF MKG
PF A. Davis
C T. Jones
BENCH D. Lamb

Bobcats:
PG Augustin (all american first team)
SG Henderson (all ACC first team)
SF Maggette (solid Duke player)
PF Tyrus Thomas (SEC Freshman of the Year, MVP Atlantic Region)
C Biyombo (no college)
BENCH K. Walker (we all know his achievements. Better college career/player than all of Kentucky)
BENCH DJ White (Big 10 player of the year)
BENCH Matt Carroll (all american honorable mention)

...As you can see from simply their college achievement list, the Bobcats roster were much better (when in college).
Ill take the Bobcats. Not even getting into the fact that the NBA is such a different game than the NCAA and it would be hard for Kentucky to play with the Bobcats. Yes the bobcats are **** but not that bad