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grandsalami
03-22-2012, 11:42 PM
For the flagrant hit on Blake Griffen?

I say at least 3, there was no need for what he did.
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/03/22/video-jason-smiths-flagrant-foul-on-blake-griffin/

ZebraCity916
03-22-2012, 11:48 PM
A flangrant 2 is an automatic 1 game suspension, right??

I say at the least he should get suspended for 2 games. That was ridiculous. He looked like he was blocking for a running back. Wrong sport, Smith. :facepalm:

NSJ
03-22-2012, 11:49 PM
Wow Blake got tossed to the floor like a *****. Obviously a terrible foul but that boy got manhandled

John Walls Era
03-22-2012, 11:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQmV7ETxj2I Full Video with the Clippers Commentary.

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-22-2012, 11:56 PM
5 Games, no difference than the Bynum-Barrea incident.

Sadds The Gr8
03-22-2012, 11:56 PM
Griffin got folded like a *****. He lied down there like he got shot...

DreStylez
03-22-2012, 11:57 PM
Definitely a flagrant and deserves a few games suspended but Griffin made it worse than it really was. A little acting by Griffin though...

Beltrans Mole
03-22-2012, 11:58 PM
That was a bad foul man he didn't even try to block the shot, he literally bulldozed him lol so cheap.

Gram
03-22-2012, 11:59 PM
Jason Smith. <3

shep33
03-22-2012, 11:59 PM
Out of everybody there after the play, I would say the only guy I wouldn't mess with is Jarret Jack.

shep33
03-23-2012, 12:00 AM
Very cheap play though, he'll get a couple... but lets be real, Blake also sold some of that lol.

dhopisthename
03-23-2012, 12:03 AM
lol smith must have thought it was tackle football.

Mr_Jones
03-23-2012, 12:05 AM
fake

Hustla23
03-23-2012, 12:06 AM
Even when he actually gets fouled, Blake lies on the floor like he got stabbed with a machete.

It was just a shoulder bump. Marcus Camby's foul on Landry Fields the other day was much worse since Fields was in the air and he got forearmed and landed on his back.

allday823
03-23-2012, 12:07 AM
Blake griffin deserved to be put on his ***, he taunts other players and thinks he can just go up and throw it on anybody anytime

gotoHcarolina52
03-23-2012, 12:07 AM
I can't stand Griffin, but that was a dirty play. He'll probably sit for 2 games, though 3-4 wouldn't be unreasonable.

Fnom11
03-23-2012, 12:08 AM
Clean foul.

Fnom11
03-23-2012, 12:09 AM
Blake griffin deserved to be put on his ***, he taunts other players and thinks he can just go up and throw it on anybody anytime

This. I like what Smith did and am glad Griffin didn't get hurt. He needed a good hard foul after all those BS flops.

bulldog312
03-23-2012, 12:10 AM
If this wasn't Blake Griffin or another star would this even be a big deal? I don't feel like he should get suspended any additional games. Maybe an additional game wouldn't be unreasonable. I don't see any reason for more than that.

John Walls Era
03-23-2012, 12:10 AM
Stern is probably fuming over that and if he could have his say it would probably a whole season suspension. It was a flagrant 2, but it wasn't that bad.

Duncan = Donkey
03-23-2012, 12:11 AM
***** got cleaned the **** up

shep33
03-23-2012, 12:11 AM
Smith's reaction after he bulldozes over Blake is so inappropriate, yet hilarious. He puts his hands up as if he hadn't touched him.

He'll get a 3-5 game suspension, because remember the NBA owns the Hornets, they need to set a proper example

greg_ory_2005
03-23-2012, 12:11 AM
Why is Blake acting like he got shot or something?

gatkins11
03-23-2012, 12:12 AM
I wonder if the Hornets have a bounty program like the Saints.

shep33
03-23-2012, 12:12 AM
Jason Smith's reaction makes it seem as if he thinks he had all ball

wizardsfan3
03-23-2012, 12:12 AM
Blake's a *****, he made that more dramatic then it should have been.

chitownbulls
03-23-2012, 12:13 AM
Well...someone had to do it.

Losoway
03-23-2012, 12:15 AM
lmao blake flopped some what ..but still uncalled for foul

heyman321
03-23-2012, 12:22 AM
That wasn't even that bad. That was a hard bump, and Smith should've gotten a flagrant and he did, but he's 6'10, come on. Bynum on Barea isn't even close to this, that was a 7'2 guy tackling a 5'10 guy in MIDAIR. This is just a hard foul.

topdog
03-23-2012, 12:23 AM
1. That was absolutely uncalled for.

2. I have a hard time believing that Blake got hurt that badly from that collsion.

3. I blame both the media and Griffin for how people play him. The media hypes every dunk he has and embarrasses whichever player was involved. Blake jumps into people, gives them facefulls of his junk, taunts, ect wouldn't that piss you off (not justifying it but seriously it's ridiculous what they allow him to do).

RaiderKid318
03-23-2012, 12:24 AM
get owned *** hole! Man Smith just became my favorite hornet, but maybe that will help us start losing again.... lmao

BKLYNpigeon
03-23-2012, 12:24 AM
Shawn Peyton had a bounty on Griffin.

shep33
03-23-2012, 12:25 AM
1. That was absolutely uncalled for.

2. I have a hard time believing that Blake got hurt that badly from that collsion.

3. I blame both the media and Griffin for how people play him. The media hypes every dunk he has and embarrasses whichever player was involved. Blake jumps into people, gives them facefulls of his junk, taunts, ect wouldn't that piss you off (not justifying it but seriously it's ridiculous what they allow him to do).

Probably the most accurate post right here

RSA27
03-23-2012, 12:25 AM
Wow Blake went down hard. Didn't realize that Smith was that strong and Griffin is that soft. Zero game suspension, Blake stop making commercials and get in back in the weight room.

Sadds The Gr8
03-23-2012, 12:27 AM
Why is Blake acting like he got shot or something?

yea he looked like a huge puss. U can see why people call NBA players soft...

C_Mund
03-23-2012, 12:29 AM
yea he looked like a huge puss. U can see why people call NBA players soft...

I'd give him a game for sure, but Blake must be built like a Kia to go down like that.

Marlin234
03-23-2012, 12:31 AM
You got knocked the f-out! B****

theducksmuggler
03-23-2012, 12:37 AM
he had it coming to be honest he is an *** on the court, im glad jason smith did it maybe blake will think twice now

McPeak92
03-23-2012, 12:38 AM
1 game

Sactown
03-23-2012, 12:39 AM
He hadn't even left the ground. that's a flag 1

Iron24th
03-23-2012, 12:42 AM
Lol that's a foul!

justinnum1
03-23-2012, 12:44 AM
blake is a softy

Corey
03-23-2012, 12:48 AM
Very cheap play though, he'll get a couple... but lets be real, Blake also sold some of that lol.

My thoughts exactly.

Probably 3 games.

Blake sold it. It was an unnecessary foul, but there was some good(?) acting too.

Tmath
03-23-2012, 12:52 AM
Good hard foul.

packers12to88
03-23-2012, 12:55 AM
hahahahhahhah **** you blake griffen you little *****!!!!! you got wacked baby!!

lakers4sho
03-23-2012, 01:09 AM
still not CR7 worthy

NSJ
03-23-2012, 01:10 AM
I'd give him a game for sure, but Blake must be built like a Kia to go down like that.

lol that was a good one

kjoke
03-23-2012, 01:28 AM
This happens all the time. How many times do you see lebron run up the court, and someone shoulders him? Lebron doesn't fall, he jumps up and goes for the three-point play/

I picked lebron because Griffen has the same physical strength as lebron/ Should not have flopped like that.

sharqstealth
03-23-2012, 01:29 AM
1 game only, the truth is its not as bad as it looks, Blake sold it... It was a hard foul indeed, but when you look back during those Pistons Bad Boys days its only regular.

heatbb
03-23-2012, 01:31 AM
He just ran through him, it's hilarious, though dangerous. I think he should get 3 games suspended for that.

Knicks21
03-23-2012, 01:31 AM
It seems saints aren't the only team running bounty in NOLA. On a side note, what a bunch of childish fans.

D1JM
03-23-2012, 01:33 AM
keep staring people down blake

sharqstealth
03-23-2012, 01:34 AM
Perkins and Mozgov must be lovin' it!

obie
03-23-2012, 01:38 AM
wtf....Griffin hella threw himself harder to the floor right after he was hit. that's straight BS if he gets suspended at all. i put it on repeat 4932840329 times and can see right after he gets hit and feels the impact he throws himself to the floor....

asandhu23
03-23-2012, 01:38 AM
look at Blake's face. He was aiming towards Smith's stomach as well.

jsthornton7
03-23-2012, 01:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0svJtzqqnU

griffin and vinny del negro didnt see ANY problem with this play whatsoever. vinny del negro even encourages that type of play. it will be funny to hear their reaction to this foul, if del negro even has a job still... lol

NSJ
03-23-2012, 01:43 AM
Blake is soft and this proves it. I know this is off topic but if he wasn't such a puss he could average like 3 4 blocks a game and 15 boards. It's unfortunate too because most players don't develop a defensive mentality, you either have it or you don't. He's like the opposite of Dwight Howard. Explosive offensively and soft on defense compared to Dwight who's soft on offense and explosive on defense. Maybe they should work out together.

bholly
03-23-2012, 01:53 AM
5 Games, no difference than the Bynum-Barrea incident.

You don't believe that. This isn't close to Bynum-Barea.

TheWhiteMamba
03-23-2012, 02:05 AM
Just saw the foul and honestly its not as bad as some of you are making it out to be. Blake sold the **** out of that. IMO Smith should get 1 game at max but because it's Blake (the NBA's poster child) he'll probably get more. LOL @ the people comparing this foul to Bynum's. Not even close.

SouthSideRookie
03-23-2012, 02:08 AM
keep staring people down blake

It wouldn't suprise me if Smith recieved congratulatory texts from players around the league.

Btw Smith should get a few games, need to make an attempt at the ball.

aussie
03-23-2012, 02:10 AM
lol even though it was a blatent foul Griffin still managed to flop and throw himself on the court...im 6 ft and jason smith with that knock would not of put me on the floor

Lakers + Giants
03-23-2012, 02:11 AM
Dont like griffin at all but that was a pretty ****in ******** flagrant. .

obie
03-23-2012, 02:20 AM
lol even though it was a blatent foul Griffin still managed to flop and throw himself on the court...im 6 ft and jason smith with that knock would not of put me on the floor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyXeeHcaGR0

i hate this pansy crap in basketball...

joeboow90
03-23-2012, 02:28 AM
5 Games, no difference than the Bynum-Barrea incident.

:facepalm::facepalm:

It's really not like that Bynum berea incident at all...Bynum had malice intent on that play clearly. I'm not sayin wat smith did wasn't wrong but he wasn't tryna hurt the dude

raidersrock99
03-23-2012, 02:29 AM
you got knocked the **** out

raidersrock99
03-23-2012, 02:30 AM
oh ya who is jason smith?

BULLSFAN0810
03-23-2012, 02:30 AM
Blake griffin deserved to be put on his ***, he taunts other players and thinks he can just go up and throw it on anybody anytime

+1 you cant show off grown men........i say a fine,one game at the most the foul was before Griffen took off,so he wasnt unguarded...man you guys on here are SEISSUP.

Gators123
03-23-2012, 02:32 AM
No blood, no foul. Good play.

Showtime Steve
03-23-2012, 02:34 AM
That was ****ed up...but dudes are tired of being posterized. I think stern comes down hard...and he runs the team anyway.

JeffG20
03-23-2012, 02:49 AM
Jason the enforcer Smith... if there was any team to beat glad it was against Benedict Arnold and flop city

chicagocubsfan
03-23-2012, 03:08 AM
well it looks like the saints just found their new MLB

310Casper
03-23-2012, 03:21 AM
Griffin is already one of the dirtiest players in the league, about time he got served his own medicine.

BigEric
03-23-2012, 03:22 AM
Like Chris Pauls finger pointing from 10 feet away like people are afraid of him. Yeah dude you're soooo scarey at 6 foot even...

Hawkize31
03-23-2012, 03:27 AM
I think he Will be suspended for a couple, but at the same time I don't blame him at all. Blake wants to play a style of game where he just dunks on teams, this is what happens. If that was anyone else, it's probably just a normal foul.

numba1CHANGsta
03-23-2012, 03:35 AM
Jason Smith would look good in a Saints jersey js :D

tredigs
03-23-2012, 03:36 AM
Griffin is already one of the dirtiest players in the league, about time he got served his own medicine.

BG gets hit ridiculously hard every other game and - let's be honest - doesn't play much D, so I'm extra curious how you'll look to back up your stupidity on this one -- >


And that hit tonight was over the top, even by my standards (and I hate how weak the game is called right now). 2 game suspension is in order, and I'd fine the dumb **** pretty big.

Fnom11
03-23-2012, 04:22 AM
BG gets hit ridiculously hard every other game and - let's be honest - doesn't play much D, so I'm extra curious how you'll look to back up your stupidity on this one -- >


And that hit tonight was over the top, even by my standards (and I hate how weak the game is called right now). 2 game suspension is in order, and I'd fine the dumb **** pretty big.

Just because he doesn't do dirty fouls on D doesn't mean he isn't dirty.

the_antz_nest
03-23-2012, 04:25 AM
Blake griffin deserved to be put on his ***, he taunts other players and thinks he can just go up and throw it on anybody anytime

agreed to a certain extent. not say he deserves it but not surprised as how much he poses and looks down on other players..

PraiseJesus
03-23-2012, 04:35 AM
irony of this is that we all know who Jason Smith is now.

He will get a better contract for that foul

tredigs
03-23-2012, 04:37 AM
I feel like I'm somewhat blinded to BG's dick ish ness (as a lot of you see him). I'm trying to figure out how much of it is legit and how much of it is just fans of players who have been immortalized by a Blake smash on their grill.

The truth might lie somewhere in the middle.

I haven't seen him being too big of a dick ever to be honest. You dudes ever see players in the late 80's or 90's who did that? Shawn Kemp? If he smashes on you, you're gonna know it. Period. Check Kemp a little Kemp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbTrmWfSKAY&feature=related

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-23-2012, 04:40 AM
flop

Raps18-19 Champ
03-23-2012, 04:43 AM
I say 3 games is fair.

I think that wasn't as bad of a tackle as Blake's reaction indicates.

OutOfTHEBLUE
03-23-2012, 04:45 AM
Two games max. In fact, just the one game suspension that's mandated by the flagrant II is probably enough.

And that wasn't even comparable to Bynum's foul on Barea (that's coming from a Lakers fan here).

justjames
03-23-2012, 06:19 AM
0 . I want 80s basketball roughness back.

xnick5757
03-23-2012, 06:33 AM
griffin flopped so much in that play, there should be no suspension

also-

griffin - 6-10, 251 pounds
smith - 7-0, 240 pounds

griffin is actually bigger than smith lol


totally different then the barea-bynum midair collision

barea - 6-0, 175 pounds
bynum - 7-0, 285 pounds

YoungOne
03-23-2012, 06:56 AM
5 Games, no difference than the Bynum-Barrea incident.

so it has to be 4 games!?

YoungOne
03-23-2012, 07:03 AM
I feel like I'm somewhat blinded to BG's dick ish ness (as a lot of you see him). I'm trying to figure out how much of it is legit and how much of it is just fans of players who have been immortalized by a Blake smash on their grill.

The truth might lie somewhere in the middle.

I haven't seen him being too big of a dick ever to be honest. You dudes ever see players in the late 80's or 90's who did that? Shawn Kemp? If he smashes on you, you're gonna know it. Period. Check Kemp a little Kemp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbTrmWfSKAY&feature=related

love that dunk, nowadays thats an automatic technical for "taunting" :facepalm:

Jarvo
03-23-2012, 07:32 AM
Haha at some of you saying more than one game, I mean ESPN was talking about it like Smith jacked him up bad when it was just a little bump. Blake did do a little acting on his part so I say Smith should miss no names, But since its Blake who knows. Some of you are just some *******

Jarvo
03-23-2012, 07:36 AM
0 . I want 80s basketball roughness back.

THANK YOU! I mean I seen worse fouls where the NBA looked like the WWF with closelines and other things. But since its Blake and he's an Star you may miss a game(s) which is bs because I think he flopped with that.

da ThRONe
03-23-2012, 07:47 AM
None. It was a blatant flop. He did the same earlier with Bellineli. He flopped and hurt himself in the process. If anybody should be suspended it should be Blake.

Tom Stone
03-23-2012, 07:49 AM
That foul was not that bad.......Flagernt 1...thats all dude wasn't in the air and wasn't from behind.......good hard 80's foul.

Welchman
03-23-2012, 08:01 AM
Laimbeer and Mahorn would be proud!

king4day
03-23-2012, 08:15 AM
1-2 games. He lowered his shoulder and made no play on the ball. Also, Blake wasn't in the air. Doesn't make the act any less wreckless but that's what will be looked at. Nowhere near as bad as Bynum on Barea. Silly that anyone is making that comparison.

theheatles
03-23-2012, 08:15 AM
blake was hollywooding it, it wasn't as bad as he made it seem

MagicHero3
03-23-2012, 08:31 AM
blake was gonna fall down regardless. he knew he was just gona draw the foul at that point. 1 game suspension max

daleja424
03-23-2012, 08:43 AM
no offense... but Griffin is a *****. Lebron and Dwight get fouled harder than that on a nightly basis and they dont crumble to the ground and act like they were just shot. Ya, Smith should get a SMALL suspension... but get real if you think that was a huge hit. He angled into him and lower his shoulder... but come on. And the Clippers announcers talk about that could have ended his season... SHUT UP! He bumped him hard. Thats it.

daleja424
03-23-2012, 08:47 AM
And anyone calling for the Bynum suspension (4-5 games) needs a dose of reality. Bynum got that suspension b/c of a history of taking cheap shots and he took a guy out IN THE AIR (A play that could legitimately end a career).

Jason Smith's was just a good hard foul and not even remotely career threatening. If Griffin didn't crumble to the floor like a little girl it wouldnt have even looked so bad. It only looked bad because Smith went strong into Griffin and Griffin flopped to draw a foul.

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 08:52 AM
2-3 (max) games imo.

LongIslandIcedZ
03-23-2012, 09:07 AM
I think the one game is enough. It's a good hard old school foul. Not only that, fouls like that come with the territory of being a showoff staredown dunker.

CubZwin38
03-23-2012, 09:09 AM
It wouldn't suprise me if Smith recieved congratulatory texts from players around the league.

Btw Smith should get a few games, need to make an attempt at the ball.

If Smith gets 3 games, Griffin and anyone else who flops should get one.

One game for Smith. How many times do we see guys not make an attempt at the ball and get no games? It's only because it's a high profile player.

kdspurman
03-23-2012, 09:12 AM
He shouldn't be suspended at all. Come on now how soft is this league getting. He got a flagrant 2, got ejected and will get 1 game cause I think it's automatic. (can't find the exact ruling on that) But he shouldn't get more than that. If he knocks down Kenyon Martin like that is this even a question? Stop babying these big name players today.

Law25
03-23-2012, 09:42 AM
Damn I know Smith plays in the West,but Blakes flopping *** was acting like he was hit by a Smith and Wesson lol. Seriously though every time i watch him play it pisses me off. I find myself yelling at the screen" Your to damn big to be flopping like that!!!" but its not just him oh no he's learning from the best right now in CP3 and Billups. I know Billups is out but he's teaching. Every screen they come off of they flop, and every time they go to the hole if you just fake towards them its a flop and the foul :facepalm: I hate it!! I hate it!!! I hate it!!!!

nolafan33
03-23-2012, 09:59 AM
JSMOOVE did what he had to do with the way Griffin and the rest of the Clippers acted last night!

The entire Clippers team made it a point to show up the Hornets to do pull ups on the rim after every dunk, the entire bench rushing the floor (seriously they were like under their own basket celebrating DURING play) and not once did the ref even think about warning them or giving them techs.

DJakk
03-23-2012, 10:04 AM
If Blake Griffen did the SAME EXACT thing to Jason Smith this would not even be on the news. The would have called a flagrant one because that was all the foul was. Professional leagues are protecting the players that bring in revenue for the league while equally professional players are being suspended in order to appeal to the media. It is foolish to even consider suspended Jason Smith for this foul.

29$JerZ
03-23-2012, 10:05 AM
New Orleans likes to take out players

WVNowitzki
03-23-2012, 10:09 AM
He shouldn't be suspended at all.

MrfadeawayJB
03-23-2012, 10:14 AM
Blake flopped lol...

but seriously, Smith admitted it was dirty, and with him it seems to be a isolated incident. He showed remorse, but i still feel 3 games suspension is necessary

kdspurman
03-23-2012, 10:16 AM
If Blake Griffen did the SAME EXACT thing to Jason Smith this would not even be on the news. The would have called a flagrant one because that was all the foul was. Professional leagues are protecting the players that bring in revenue for the league while equally professional players are being suspended in order to appeal to the media. It is foolish to even consider suspended Jason Smith for this foul.

Exactly.

I Rock Shaqs
03-23-2012, 10:18 AM
Blake griffin deserved to be put on his ***, he taunts other players and thinks he can just go up and throw it on anybody anytime

Man i swear the nba got so many *******, he was like after the game " i really wanna apoligize to Blake i never wanted to hurt him, i want to take him out on a date and a romantic evening blah blah blah bnlah,
damn cant you just kill a man without apoligizing nowadays...

JasonJohnHorn
03-23-2012, 10:18 AM
a 3 game suspension should send the message...

DenButsu
03-23-2012, 10:19 AM
Blake griffin deserved to be put on his ***, he taunts other players and thinks he can just go up and throw it on anybody anytime

I'm not a Blake fan, but come on, that's ridiculous.

What Smith did out there could easily have caused a serious injury. The league needs to bust down hard on guys who unnecessarily risk the safety of the other players outside the flow of the game. They have to protect their assets. And more than that, there has to be some kind of punitive consequence just for doing the wrong thing.

2 games at absolute minimum, but I'd support 3 or 4 as well.

Gators123
03-23-2012, 10:22 AM
I wonder how long Monty Williams thinks he should be suspended for? Just last month he wanted Monroe suspended for a foul on Jason Smith that wasn't half as bad as that...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1h7T6qBaNaU#!

He even sent that footage to the NBA... :pity:

kdspurman
03-23-2012, 10:30 AM
a 3 game suspension should send the message...

Send the message to who? The guy who tries to foul a show boater who likes to show up teams? Come on Blake is a strong dude. He wasn't even in the air when he got pushed. I know it was a hard foul, but that's all it was. Had Blake been in the air that would've been different cause he would've been defenseless.

sep11ie
03-23-2012, 10:36 AM
This is what happens to showboaters.

ChicagoJ
03-23-2012, 10:37 AM
Reminds me of 90s playoffs. Nonetheless, it was a cheap shot. The league should come down hard on the guy. I'm all for hard fouls to prevent easy dunks, but that was out of line.

torocan
03-23-2012, 10:44 AM
I think 1-3 days suspension is fine.

Griffin was completely blindsided. I've viewed it a number of times.

His eyes didn't even glance in Smith's direction prior to the hit, nor did his legs flex prior to the hit. His flip was purely due to the inertia, not due to some effort to increase the size of the hit.

It was a very dangerous foul. Blindsiding someone from 5 o'clock is very hard to see, and they were both running at full speed. All he needed to do was wrap him up.

That said, I do believe Griffin was milking it a bit after the hit. His head didn't impact the floor on first landing -- though I can imagine his left shoulder wasn't feeling so hot. Wasn't nearly as hard as the hit Lin took from Kidd/Mahini.

Still, 1-3 suspension is appropriate. He wasn't even remotely going for the ball, and took one of the more dangerous ways to hard foul someone.

marferrer
03-23-2012, 10:45 AM
1 game suspension is enough. Let the boys play tough.

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 10:52 AM
Are people seriously making this about Blake Griffin? Seriously? You guys need a life despite of who the two players are this kind of play has no place on a basketball court. Just for this I'm pulling for Blake to go on an absolute tear to end the season.

Da Knicks
03-23-2012, 10:53 AM
It was going to happen with Griffin trying to dunk on everyone all the time however Smith acted like a douche trying to get the fans to cheer him.

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 10:56 AM
Reminds me of 90s playoffs. Nonetheless, it was a cheap shot. The league should come down hard on the guy. I'm all for hard fouls to prevent easy dunks, but that was out of line.

Absolutely nothing in today's NBA reminds me of 90's NBA. Its a girls league now.

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 10:56 AM
If Blake Griffen did the SAME EXACT thing to Jason Smith this would not even be on the news. The would have called a flagrant one because that was all the foul was. Professional leagues are protecting the players that bring in revenue for the league while equally professional players are being suspended in order to appeal to the media. It is foolish to even consider suspended Jason Smith for this foul.


Exactly.

Are you two crazy or something? EVERYTHING Blake does gets blown up. He has become on of the most hated athletes in the NBA because of his theatrics and had he done this this thread would have at least 300+ posts as we speak.

You guys are completely out of your mind if you think things like this have a place in basketball.

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 11:00 AM
He shouldn't be suspended at all. Come on now how soft is this league getting. He got a flagrant 2, got ejected and will get 1 game cause I think it's automatic. (can't find the exact ruling on that) But he shouldn't get more than that. If he knocks down Kenyon Martin like that is this even a question? Stop babying these big name players today.

Yes it would. No one is babying anyone. You're seriously telling me if players going this to others there is no problem with it? That this is acceptable and all you're going to get is a slap on the wrist. :pity:

Vincent
03-23-2012, 11:00 AM
It looked a lot worse than it was.

Smith wanted to foul before Griffin got an easy dunk, but seemed to make a bad decision with lowering his shoulder rather than wrapping him up.

The Hornets were up and Smith was actually having a good game. I don't think getting a flagrant foul and getting kicked out of the game was his intention.

Griffin also basically made sure that Jason Smith was out of the game by staying down and milking it.

If Griffin didn't react the way he did, it wouldn't have been such a big deal.

Just to be consistent with how the league has been dealing with these situations, I would say Smith could get an 1 game suspension. But I think anymore is a bit excessive.

For those who say the league needs to "send a message." The rest of the league already has gotten the message. How often do you see hits like this in a NBA game? Pretty rare. There's no actual problem in the league dangerous hits, and when there is, it's typically taken care of appropriately. No need to be excessive to "send a message."

cbreezy34
03-23-2012, 11:00 AM
Suspend Blake Griffen. In all seriousness Im getting so tired of this guy... hes an amazing athlete... an amazing dunker maybe the best in game dunker ever but every time he gets fouled hard it's the biggest flop fest ive ever seen. Im so tired of everything involving this guy good or bad being completely blown out of poroportion. Elton Brand... whois half the size of Griffen would have taken that like a man and probably not touched the floor.

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 11:03 AM
Are you two crazy or something? EVERYTHING Blake does gets blown up. He has become on of the most hated athletes in the NBA because of his theatrics and had he done this this thread would have at least 300+ posts as we speak.

You guys are completely out of your mind if you think things like this have a place in basketball.

I am seriously not attacking you here, but you must have thought 3 fouls a game had no place in basketball 20 years ago if you thought this was that bad. I am not sure if its because we so rarely see hard fouls anymore or what, but this **** happened every single time the Knicks, Pistons, or Heat played in the early 90's.

Baller1
03-23-2012, 11:03 AM
It's Blake Griffin, he flops on ****ing everything. He's not hurt, so I'm glad Jason Smith did that.

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 11:06 AM
For all the posters saying if it wasn't Blake who was fouled it wouldn't even be a conversation as to if Smith would be suspended I ask you this, who is Gerald Henderson? Drew Gooden was suspended for a way less malicious foul on Henderson the only difference is that Henderson was airborne at the time of impact.

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 11:08 AM
I am seriously not attacking you here, but you must have thought 3 fouls a game had no place in basketball 20 years ago if you thought this was that bad. I am not sure if its because we so rarely see hard fouls anymore or what, but this **** happened every single time the Knicks, Pistons, or Heat played in the early 90's.

But Hawk do you honestly think that that's an acceptable play in basketball where a player shouldn't receive a suspension?

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 11:08 AM
For all the knuckleheads saying if it wasn't Blake who was fouled it wouldn't even be a conversation as to if Smith would be suspended I ask you this, who is Gerald Henderson? Drew Gooden was suspended for a way less malicious foul on Henderson the only difference is that Henderson was airborne at the time of impact.

that is a HUGE difference though. You are completely vulnerable in the air.

mjt20mik
03-23-2012, 11:09 AM
He's probably gonna get like 3 games. But in hindsight I was so happy when I saw that. Blake is one of the biggest *****es in the NBA. He flops so hard, and is such a drama queen.

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 11:13 AM
that is a HUGE difference though. You are completely vulnerable in the air.

It doesn't change the fact that Smith came in clearly not making an attempt to do anything but foul Griffin with malicious intent.

Are we going to wait for a player to be airborne and get seriously injured to then say it was a bad foul deserving of adequate penalization. Whether or not Blake (or any player for that matter) was on the ground or in the air is not the issue here the issue is that Smith's actions was not that of an acceptable basketball hard foul.

We can't wait until something happens to put a stop to it.

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 11:13 AM
But Hawk do you honestly think that that's an acceptable play in basketball where a player shouldn't receive a suspension?

do you really want my honest answer? Yes, I think that should be allowed, as long as a guy doesn't develop a pattern. The way it used to work, is the league would review and fine, and warn the player. If they kept up big hits, they were suspended. I hate these automatic suspensions, because its at the discretion of a single ref, instead of those who can look at it closer.

Would Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Bill Laimbeer, or Rick Mahorn be able to play in today's NBA? I am somewhat disgusted at how sissy the NBA has become, but its that way in this country in general, so it fits the pattern.

Do I want to be on the end of that hit? Hell no. But back in the day, you understood that if you attacked like Blake does, you are going to take some hits. That is what made those guys so much more beast than the players today.

I am old school. I don't like tiny PG's leading the league in points in the paint. I don't like the fact that a guy can come down not only once, but multiple times, and dunk on your face and you can do nothing about it.

I think its being overblown by some here. Like I said, I am not sure if we just don't see hard fouls anymore, but this wasn't that bad. He was on the ground, and it was a body check. Blake is a truck, he sold it.

THE_FLASH_21
03-23-2012, 11:15 AM
5 Games, no difference than the Bynum-Barrea incident.



:facepalm: ????? Barrea is like 5'10 and was kind of in the air.. Blake is like 6'9 6'10b That to me is a hugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee difference..

it will be a 2-3 game suspension!

sep11ie
03-23-2012, 11:19 AM
For all the posters saying if it wasn't Blake who was fouled it wouldn't even be a conversation as to if Smith would be suspended I ask you this, who is Gerald Henderson? Drew Gooden was suspended for a way less malicious foul on Henderson the only difference is that Henderson was airborne at the time of impact.

Really?

tyfreaks brotha
03-23-2012, 11:20 AM
Four games

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 11:21 AM
do you really want my honest answer? Yes, I think that should be allowed, as long as a guy doesn't develop a pattern. The way it used to work, is the league would review and fine, and warn the player. If they kept up big hits, they were suspended. I hate these automatic suspensions, because its at the discretion of a single ref, instead of those who can look at it closer.

Would Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Bill Laimbeer, or Rick Mahorn be able to play in today's NBA? I am somewhat disgusted at how sissy the NBA has become, but its that way in this country in general, so it fits the pattern.

Do I want to be on the end of that hit? Hell no. But back in the day, you understood that if you attacked like Blake does, you are going to take some hits. That is what made those guys so much more beast than the players today.

I am old school. I don't like tiny PG's leading the league in points in the paint. I don't like the fact that a guy can come down not only once, but multiple times, and dunk on your face and you can do nothing about it.

I think its being overblown by some here. Like I said, I am not sure if we just don't see hard fouls anymore, but this wasn't that bad. He was on the ground, and it was a body check. Blake is a truck, he sold it.

My opinion on it differs however then because despite the fact that the game has indeed changed and players aren't allowed to play as freely as they were back in the day that "body check" is a horrible play to be allowed in basketball at any level.

Are we really going to wait till it becomes a habit to put an end to it? To me that doesn't make any sense. If its bad it should be just as bad the 1st time you do it as it is the 15th time you do.

Mikeleafs
03-23-2012, 11:25 AM
It was shoulder to shoulder!! A 50/50 play... A flagrant foul at most!!!

Blake cant expect to get his highlight reel dunks every night without some hard fouls...

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 11:25 AM
My opinion on it differs however then because despite the fact that the game has indeed changed and players aren't allowed to play as freely as they were back in the day that "body check" is a horrible play to be allowed in basketball at any level.

Are we really going to wait till it becomes a habit to put an end to it? To me that doesn't make any sense. If its bad it should be just as bad the 1st time you do it as it is the 15th time you do.

well, we have a difference of opinion on this one. Those hard fouls created a higher degree of competition amongst the players and fan bases imo. I miss that game. Now we have a league of touch fouls, floppers, and rule systems put in place not to protect the players, but to protect the image of the league, protecting its earnings.

Players play much more freely today, where they can't be touched.

Give me old school.

mamba24
03-23-2012, 11:47 AM
Anybody remember when Fisher absolutely flattened Luis Scola a couple years ago? Fisher got 1 game. That is all that is necessary here. Similar type of hit. If Blake was in the air it would warrant a longer suspension.

daboywonder2002
03-23-2012, 12:03 PM
suspended for what? watch the video again. all smith did was bump him. there was no forearm shot. no sticking the hand out to push him.

daboywonder2002
03-23-2012, 12:06 PM
It was shoulder to shoulder!! A 50/50 play... A flagrant foul at most!!!

Blake cant expect to get his highlight reel dunks every night without some hard fouls...

exactly

LongIslandIcedZ
03-23-2012, 12:10 PM
Doug Gotlieb on ESPNNY just said that Smith should get a month because the league has to protect their stars. Thats crap. If he gets suspended any extra amount of time because Blake is a high profile player than this league is a joke.

knicks_champ
03-23-2012, 12:16 PM
He didn't push off with his arms it was a should push, Blake sold it really well... Smith kinda looked like he was trying to change Blake's direction has he was moving towards the basket but he was moving too fast.

No need for a suspension, if it were just another player this would be a non issue.

ElFuturoDeESPN
03-23-2012, 12:24 PM
Even when he actually gets fouled, Blake lies on the floor like he got stabbed with a machete.

It was just a shoulder bump. Marcus Camby's foul on Landry Fields the other day was much worse since Fields was in the air and he got forearmed and landed on his back.

This. Blake sold the **** outta that "hit" and was just bein' a baby.

He deserves to be knocked around a bit after I have to put up with his stupid Kia commercials.

tr3ymill3r
03-23-2012, 12:31 PM
0 games. After watching Blake flop last week in Detroit, I don't believe the foul was that hard.

showtym24
03-23-2012, 12:39 PM
1 game.

Aust
03-23-2012, 12:42 PM
Blake griffin deserved to be put on his ***, he taunts other players and thinks he can just go up and throw it on anybody anytime

I was kind of glad karma got that flopper. I say no more than 3 games

I think it's being over exaggerated, I guess it's a slow news day for the media

Shadowplay
03-23-2012, 12:45 PM
Probably 3 games. Griffin been getting owned lately,first Morris now Smith.

Rivera
03-23-2012, 12:51 PM
Im with hawkeye on this i miss people enforcing themselves on the court...i miss plays like this where there hard fouls but there not dirty

Blake didnt take off yet and it was a hip check he didnt put his hands on blake but he sent him to the floor to send him a message...like hawk said this happened all the times in the 90s

But were in a different era ... were in a pollitically correct world now and because of this hes gonna get suspended 2 games...im not mad about it i just accept it cause were in a different era and world that we are in from 10/15 years ago

kdspurman
03-23-2012, 01:02 PM
Are you two crazy or something? EVERYTHING Blake does gets blown up. He has become on of the most hated athletes in the NBA because of his theatrics and had he done this this thread would have at least 300+ posts as we speak.

You guys are completely out of your mind if you think things like this have a place in basketball.

This was not even that serious. Come on man. There have been harder fouls than that. Blake is one of the most hated? News to me.

kdspurman
03-23-2012, 01:12 PM
Yes it would. No one is babying anyone. You're seriously telling me if players going this to others there is no problem with it? That this is acceptable and all you're going to get is a slap on the wrist. :pity:

Blake sold that foul. Plain and simple. You can't continue to reward his "acting". He can dunk on people and stare them down, but he throws himself when he gets fouled? He's gotten that reputation as a flopper. Big time.

And no I see no problem giving a guy who likes to show boat a hard foul None at all. I say the same thing with guys like Wade/James who want to throw alley-oops when they have a big lead on a team. It's showing up players and the game. Not saying this was the case last night with Blake, but hard fouls are a lost cause in today's game. And we're so accustomed to the new "softness" of the league when something like this happens everyone wants to flip out.

This happened all the time you think about guys like Mason, Oakley, Rodman, Barkley, etc.. in the 80's/90's. Now it's a problem? Come on man.

WAYNEBO
03-23-2012, 01:17 PM
5 Games, no difference than the Bynum-Barrea incident.

I agree... 5 games. This is not football, and to the poster who said Blake got b|itch-handled, he is a basketball player on a fastbreak, not expecting a suckerpunch.... you'd have flown to the seats like a Susan.

ayuntalo
03-23-2012, 01:25 PM
wtf?!
is Blake Griffin made of Paper or something?!
smh this is clearly a flagrant but i dont think this deserved a suspension.

Griffin got bumped hard by Smith, didnt go for the ball so that was flagrant.
but really?! a 6"9 guy would fold like that?!
come on man! Blake Griffin is slowly becoming the player that i hate the most!
he taunts when he dunks and he flops more than pau gasol

homestarunner93
03-23-2012, 01:29 PM
0 games. Nice hit.

KnickaBocka.44
03-23-2012, 01:31 PM
I agree... 5 games. This is not football, and to the poster who said Blake got b|itch-handled, he is a basketball player on a fastbreak, not expecting a suckerpunch.... you'd have flown to the seats like a Susan.

First of all there was no punch so it can't be a suckerpunch.

Second of all, this is much less dangerous than letting him go airborn and then swatting at his head/shoulders.

This was a good hard foul and in my opinion he shouldn't be suspended at all.

TeamSeattle
03-23-2012, 01:31 PM
Yes If Bynum got suspended 5-games, the punishment here should be the same. He just straight ran into him with out any remorse & tried to play it off.

KnickaBocka.44
03-23-2012, 01:35 PM
I agree... 5 games. This is not football, and to the poster who said Blake got b|itch-handled, he is a basketball player on a fastbreak, not expecting a suckerpunch.... you'd have flown to the seats like a Susan.


Dude, come on. Bynum took a few steps and clotheslined a guy half his size. What Smith did is not even remotely close to as violent and malicious as the Bynum-Barea incident. Get real.

Ezio
03-23-2012, 01:57 PM
Must of been a nice bounty on Griffin. That's nothing compare to what Bynum did.

Chronz
03-23-2012, 01:59 PM
Nothing to see here, Blake milked it but only to get a breather. After a foul like that its in your right to milk it if you feel it helps the team.


Absolutely nothing in today's NBA reminds me of 90's NBA. Its a girls league now.

Cmon now

90's got rid of those rules for a GOOD reason, the league was becoming the 90's jacked up. If things had gone your way the league would suffer.

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 02:03 PM
BS

90's got rid of those rules for a GOOD reason, the league was becoming the 90's jacked up. If things had gone your way the league would suffer.

Because it got excessive. I am not saying it was awesome watching the Heat, Knicks, and Pistons, but hard fouls were always part of the game. They just got out of control, and the league decided to pull the bandaid. My point is, its a sissy league now compared to back then. It is. I would love to see a mix. Basically, don't act like its the end of the world when someone lays out a hard foul, but keep it under control to where the fights and **** don't start happening.

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 02:04 PM
Nothing to see here, Blake milked it but only to get a breather. After a foul like that its in your right to milk it if you feel it helps the team.

It wasn't that bad of a foul really. My dad used to do that all the time he told me. Take a hard foul or take a charge and get some rest haha

KnickaBocka.44
03-23-2012, 02:07 PM
The only reason this play is even being discussed is because it involves Blake Griffin.

Lakersfan2483
03-23-2012, 02:22 PM
3 to 5 games

sep11ie
03-23-2012, 02:23 PM
I just hate to see the white on kinda white violence.

Sadds The Gr8
03-23-2012, 02:27 PM
should be a fine or 1 game suspension AT MOST. he shouldn't be suspended though.

tredigs
03-23-2012, 02:36 PM
Blake sold that foul. Plain and simple. You can't continue to reward his "acting". He can dunk on people and stare them down, but he throws himself when he gets fouled? He's gotten that reputation as a flopper. Big time.

And no I see no problem giving a guy who likes to show boat a hard foul None at all. I say the same thing with guys like Wade/James who want to throw alley-oops when they have a big lead on a team. It's showing up players and the game. Not saying this was the case last night with Blake, but hard fouls are a lost cause in today's game. And we're so accustomed to the new "softness" of the league when something like this happens everyone wants to flip out.

This happened all the time you think about guys like Mason, Oakley, Rodman, Barkley, etc.. in the 80's/90's. Now it's a problem? Come on man.

Dude give me a ****ing break, "sold it"? A 7 footer dipped his shoulder at near full speed and took him out without showing even a passable attempt at making a play on the ball.

I'm ALL for hard fouls, but that **** was bush league. Has no place in the NBA, especially coming from a scrub one of the worst teams in basketball. Is he trying to set the tone for his team in their playoff push or something?

WaltonSystem
03-23-2012, 02:40 PM
:eyebrow: Fake Griffin at his finest

BIG worm
03-23-2012, 02:48 PM
lots of wack *** jokes on here. and anyone who says this was just a hard foul, not dirty, no suspension etc.....all you guys would be crying bloody murder if this happened to the star on your favorite basketball team. gtfo!

Swashcuff
03-23-2012, 02:52 PM
Dude give me a ****ing break, "sold it"? A 7 footer dipped his shoulder at near full speed and took him out without showing even a passable attempt at making a play on the ball.

I'm ALL for hard fouls, but that **** was bush league. Has no place in the NBA, especially coming from a scrub one of the worst teams in basketball. Is he trying to set the tone for his team in their playoff push or something?

I want to know if Oakley, Laimbeer, Rodman, Barkley etc ever cheaply body checked a player to the ground then went one to lead the crowd in a cheer for the fact that they just made a bush league move.

Like I said it matters not who did it or who it was done to what matters is a play like that has no place on the basketball floor and if anyone thinks it does then the really need to get a reality check. Had it been Blake doing it to Josh Smith 95% of those saying Blake is this and that would be calling for a 5+ game suspension.

Public Enemy #1
03-23-2012, 03:21 PM
I don't feel sorry for Blake, the dude is a flopper and actor. Hornets fans cheering because they injured CP3's teammate. :laugh: It's all about payback...

Vinylman
03-23-2012, 03:34 PM
awesome foul

no chance he gets hurt on a foul like that and it sends a message... no free rides to the rim...

the funny thing is guys like griffin are just so use to other players slowing up right before he goes into launch mode that it caught him off guard...

as for Griffin he is a flopper and a bully... he loves to shove PG's around but can't handle a hard foul by a big?

Cfrey
03-23-2012, 03:52 PM
THIS IS AWESOME

lmao its funny cause if this happened to anyone other than griffen I would be a little disappointed but griffen deserved to get put on his ***

what a ****ing baby it wasn't even that big of a hit

Chronz
03-23-2012, 04:00 PM
Because it got excessive. I am not saying it was awesome watching the Heat, Knicks, and Pistons, but hard fouls were always part of the game. They just got out of control, and the league decided to pull the bandaid. My point is, its a sissy league now compared to back then. It is. I would love to see a mix. Basically, don't act like its the end of the world when someone lays out a hard foul, but keep it under control to where the fights and **** don't start happening.

I loved watching the Knicks vs Heat series, my point wasnt that it couldnt be enjoyable, just that its unfair to call these guys sissies when the league was just equaling out the playing field. And that it acted in the interest of the fans worldwide.

Chronz
03-23-2012, 04:01 PM
It wasn't that bad of a foul really. My dad used to do that all the time he told me. Take a hard foul or take a charge and get some rest haha

If your dad worked as hard as Blake does to get his, he deserves the breather too

SeoulBeatz
03-23-2012, 04:09 PM
That's my boy right there. Glad he's still contributing.

grandsalami
03-23-2012, 04:10 PM
Marc Stein ‏ @ESPNSteinLine Close
Just going out online/on air: Sources say NBA suspended Hornets forward Jason Smith for two games for Thursday night hit on Blake Griffin

Hawkeye15
03-23-2012, 04:13 PM
I loved watching the Knicks vs Heat series, my point wasnt that it couldnt be enjoyable, just that its unfair to call these guys sissies when the league was just equaling out the playing field. And that it acted in the interest of the fans worldwide.

you're right. We don't know which ones would have been sissies :p

It was a mans league is all. Much more so then today. Touch fouls, floppers, and no hard fouls without everyone making a big deal of them. That foul on Blake happened 3 times a night back in the day

justinnum1
03-23-2012, 04:13 PM
2 games lol

Cfrey
03-23-2012, 04:21 PM
**** sign my to an NBA contract and my only job will be to take out opposing players

kind of like an enforcer in hockey.. that would be the ****

jon32
03-23-2012, 04:36 PM
Smith Should get 5.......but Id also give Griffin a game for being a pansy, suck it up man , nba players arent the toughest athletes goin thats for sure

Vinylman
03-23-2012, 04:36 PM
do you really want my honest answer? Yes, I think that should be allowed, as long as a guy doesn't develop a pattern. The way it used to work, is the league would review and fine, and warn the player. If they kept up big hits, they were suspended. I hate these automatic suspensions, because its at the discretion of a single ref, instead of those who can look at it closer.

Would Charles Oakley, Anthony Mason, Bill Laimbeer, or Rick Mahorn be able to play in today's NBA? I am somewhat disgusted at how sissy the NBA has become, but its that way in this country in general, so it fits the pattern.

Do I want to be on the end of that hit? Hell no. But back in the day, you understood that if you attacked like Blake does, you are going to take some hits. That is what made those guys so much more beast than the players today.

I am old school. I don't like tiny PG's leading the league in points in the paint. I don't like the fact that a guy can come down not only once, but multiple times, and dunk on your face and you can do nothing about it.

I think its being overblown by some here. Like I said, I am not sure if we just don't see hard fouls anymore, but this wasn't that bad. He was on the ground, and it was a body check. Blake is a truck, he sold it.

+1 billionity

jsthornton7
03-23-2012, 04:39 PM
Hilarious tweet from Eric Pincus

If I'm correct - the NBA will now pay itself for two games of Jason Smith's contract (suspension)

KnicksR4Real
03-23-2012, 04:55 PM
I ****ing agree with what Smith did Blake Griffin is a giant tool.

mjt20mik
03-23-2012, 04:58 PM
2 games.. :D

mjt20mik
03-23-2012, 04:59 PM
And I can't wait for the playoffs. He's going to be pushed around like crazy, and history shows he will just take it and not retaliate.

lakersfan01
03-23-2012, 05:04 PM
He shouldn't get a suspension at all. Griffin wasn't even in the air. It's too bad he didn't wait another second.

Griffin is the biggest flopper at pf in the entire NBA. Look at him laying there acting it up.

I thought the little brothers were supposed to be better than the Lakers this year... :laugh2:

LakersA's49ers
03-23-2012, 05:13 PM
poster boy got leveled. good for jason smith. made a name for himself ;)

Dcup
03-23-2012, 05:16 PM
Way overblown.

Gram
03-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Jason Smith. <3

nolafan33
03-23-2012, 06:55 PM
That's my boy right there. Glad he's still contributing.

He's doing more than just contributing, dude has improved so much from when he first came here last year.

VinceCarter
03-23-2012, 07:43 PM
Very cheap play though, he'll get a couple... but lets be real, Blake also sold some of that lol.

lol at him on the ground crying.

VinceCarter
03-23-2012, 07:44 PM
jason smith. <3

+1

beasted86
03-23-2012, 10:15 PM
I'll say 2 because it was pretty malicious and he made no attempt whatsoever to make a play on the ball and if Blake started to jump it could have been a serious injury.

Lake_Show2416
03-23-2012, 10:30 PM
u cant go after Sterns baby!! suspend him for the entire season lol

but really probably 2-4 games, most likely 4 if they go with the Bynum criteria

SportsAndrew25
03-23-2012, 10:31 PM
5 game ban. What an jerk.

Chronz
03-24-2012, 03:29 PM
you're right. We don't know which ones would have been sissies :p

It was a mans league is all. Much more so then today. Touch fouls, floppers, and no hard fouls without everyone making a big deal of them.
So would you call basketball in the developmental stages before the NBA, a true mans league? And compared to those barbaric stages, 90s ball was for baby girls?

Would you agree the 60s 70s were manlier as well?



That foul on Blake happened 3 times a night back in the day
No way

ManRam
03-24-2012, 03:38 PM
The ejection was enough IMO. One game more would have been fitting too.

2 games? IDK. It was a pointless foul, but far from dangerous.

Plus, Blake sucks ;)

But seriously. It's hard for me to have sympathy for him when he's the master embellisher and the master taunter/showboater in the league.

Chronz
03-24-2012, 03:42 PM
When you take the kind of hits Blake does your allowed to take a breather. He just took another hard fall/foul and got right up. As the game wears on, he gets up alil more slowly.

ManRam
03-24-2012, 03:46 PM
When you take the kind of hits Blake does your allowed to take a breather. He just took another hard fall/foul and got right up. As the game wears on, he gets up alil more slowly.

As much as Blake annoys me...I wish Dwight would be more like him. Dwight never ever embellishes and will fight through any contact. That's a big reason why he's never drawn a flagrant in his career (I believe), despite being fouled as much as anyone in the league, and intentionally so, and violently so.

Blake takes a beating, but he'll make sure the refs are aware of it.

tredigs
03-24-2012, 03:53 PM
As much as Blake annoys me...I wish Dwight would be more like him. Dwight never ever embellishes and will fight through any contact. That's a big reason why he's never drawn a flagrant in his career (I believe), despite being fouled as much as anyone in the league, and intentionally so, and violently so.

Blake takes a beating, but he'll make sure the refs are aware of it.

Howard takes a ton of consistent contact, and I'm sure he's taken a few flagrants along the way that weren't called (can't recall any, but I only watch a dozen or so Magic games a year + playoffs), but I find it VERY hard to believe he's ever taken the types of flagrants that Blake already has.

If Dwight took the type of foul that Elton Brand or Jason Smith put on Blake then there's no chance it wouldn't be whistled a flagrant. Doesn't matter who he is.

Blake's fouled harder than anyone in the league. And there's no close 2nd.

5ass
03-24-2012, 03:58 PM
As much as Blake annoys me...I wish Dwight would be more like him. Dwight never ever embellishes and will fight through any contact. That's a big reason why he's never drawn a flagrant in his career (I believe), despite being fouled as much as anyone in the league, and intentionally so, and violently so.

Blake takes a beating, but he'll make sure the refs are aware of it.

I agree with u, the only problem i have with flopping and throwing urself around is that it increases risk of injury.
The only Flagrant i can remember Howard drawing is back in the 09 finals, when Gasol tried to lay him out, instead Howard made him look like a *****. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf04adVhiBc

Chronz
03-24-2012, 04:55 PM
When you take the kind of hits Blake does your allowed to take a breather. He just took another hard fall/foul and got right up. As the game wears on, he gets up alil more slowly.

As much as Blake annoys me...I wish Dwight would be more like him. Dwight never ever embellishes and will fight through any contact. That's a big reason why he's never drawn a flagrant in his career (I believe), despite being fouled as much as anyone in the league, and intentionally so, and violently so.

Blake takes a beating, but he'll make sure the refs are aware of it.
Blake is a smaller player so the hits he takes wear on him more than Dwight. Blake would probably get to the line more if he didn't complain to the refs as much so there is something to be said for keeping quiet

Chronz
03-24-2012, 05:01 PM
Blake just drew another flagrant, OJ tripped him up, the play itself doesn't look bad but the refs are trying to get a handle on the Blake mugging.

Agreed on no other player taking this kind of beating, hes a slashing bigman, who else can say that?

Redskins10
03-24-2012, 05:06 PM
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