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itsripcity32
03-20-2012, 09:33 PM
1. Bobcats
2. Hornets
3. Wizards
4. Raptors
5. Pistons
6. Kings
7. Nets
8. Warriors
9. Cavaliers

Do the Warriors get their lotto pick????????????????? I think that's a pretty simple question.

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Sactown
03-20-2012, 09:36 PM
What are the specifics on GSW pick?

Raps08-09 Champ
03-20-2012, 09:38 PM
What?

itsripcity32
03-20-2012, 09:39 PM
If they finish within the seven seeds after the actual lottery.

Lloyd Christmas
03-20-2012, 09:40 PM
What are the specifics on GSW pick?

Top 7 protected

beasted86
03-20-2012, 09:40 PM
OP, please read your own post and let us know if it makes sense.

Lloyd Christmas
03-20-2012, 09:41 PM
What are you asking OP?

black1605
03-20-2012, 09:46 PM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lc0o8eNTRP1qd5giho1_500.jpg

itsripcity32
03-20-2012, 09:47 PM
Okay..

The first part is for you to list your predicted worst teams by record.

The second part is for you to predict whether or not the warriors get to keep their pick. This means that they'd either have to finish within the 7 seeds.

Monta is beast
03-20-2012, 09:48 PM
If the Warriors finish with one of the 7 worst records they keep there pick, if not it goes to Utah. But The Warriors and Jazz are talking about a trade, where the Warriors would get it back.

beasted86
03-20-2012, 09:49 PM
OP, your post still isn't clear, but I assume you are asking if the Warriors will get their lotto pick with how the standings sit right now.


Utah Jazz: Receives Golden State’s 2012 first-round pick (top-7 protected in 2012 and 2013, top-6 protected in 2014, else 2014 and 2016 second-round picks) via Utah (from the Marcus Williams trade on 9/29/09) from the Deron Williams trade on 2/23/11.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/draft-pick-debt

Right now the Warriors have the 9th worst win percentage, so unless they won the lottery and moved up, they would not get their own 1st round pick if the season ended today.

Raps08-09 Champ
03-20-2012, 09:49 PM
If I was going to care about a protected first round pick, it would be the Nets first.

itsripcity32
03-20-2012, 09:50 PM
If the Warriors finish with one of the 7 worst records they keep there pick, if not it goes to Utah. But The Warriors and Jazz are talking about a trade, where the Warriors would get it back.

Yea that's why I put **Barring any trades in the original post. But these guys don't understand, so I took it off

Sactown
03-20-2012, 09:52 PM
Now it makes sense why they're purposely tanking

itsripcity32
03-20-2012, 09:52 PM
OP, your post still isn't clear, but I assume you are asking if the Warriors will get their lotto pick with how the standings sit right now.


http://www.hoopsworld.com/draft-pick-debt

Right now the Warriors have the 9th worst win percentage, so unless they won the lottery and moved up, they would not get their own 1st round pick if the season ended today.

It's pretty much implied man.

They can very well end up with a 6th or 7th worst record and won't need to win the lottery. Or they can win it as you said

Beantownsboss
03-20-2012, 09:56 PM
Well i know one thing for sure, nobody is catching the Bobcats. It sucks that they suck so bad, and don't even get the number 1 pick for sure. At least it prevents team's from throwing games like the NFL.

Beantownsboss
03-20-2012, 09:57 PM
And i don't think the Knicks are back necessarily IMO. They are getting there, but what are they back from they were never good?

Fresno
03-20-2012, 09:59 PM
You guys also need to take note of how the Draft Lottery odds work as well.

To be sure they get a Top 7 pick they have to finish with one of the 5 worst records in the NBA. This ensures that they will get no lower than the 7th pick in the 2012 NBA Draft unless a team lower than 8 beats the odds and gets a Top 3 pick. Then that bumps a team down a spot.

Also thats the other possible scenario as well.

Golden State finishes with the 8th or 9th worst record and and ends up with a Top 3 pick despite having less than a 3% chance to get it. Thats how Chicago got Derrick Rose and Cleveland got Kyrie Irving.

You never know. We all know David Stern rigs the Lottery anyways.

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KnicksR4Real
03-20-2012, 10:00 PM
perp scerp?

bholly
03-20-2012, 10:05 PM
If the Warriors finish with one of the 7 worst records they keep there pick, if not it goes to Utah. But The Warriors and Jazz are talking about a trade, where the Warriors would get it back.

This isn't quite right. It's about whether the pick ends up in the top 7, not about whether they have a bottom-7 record. They could have the 10th worst record but jump up to the top three in the lottery and would keep it. They could also have the 7th best record and end up with the 8th, 9th, or 10th pick if other teams leap them in the lottery, in which case they'd lose it.

itsripcity32
03-20-2012, 10:22 PM
Thank you. Finally, some people who understand that they the Warriors can get their lotto pick in more than just one way.

As a piston fan in the bay area, I just don't want them to picking ahead of the pistons ;)

Cal827
03-20-2012, 10:44 PM
There's just too much of a story for half of the Lottery teams in order for Stern to take Advantage:

- New Orleans might have problems selling themselves to a new owner. Might as well be assured that if Minnesota is 9th in the West at the end of the year. That the pick that the Hornets have from them is going to be first overall.

- New Jersey is relocating. With The Russian and the Rapper as the owners, they want to make sure that New Jersey doesn't lose their pick (their future especially since Deron might be Gone).

- Cleveland cause Dan Gilbert's head is still in Sterns Lap.

- Sacramento since they now are staying there... award the loyal fans with another good piece to their already high potential core.

- Utah still acquiring pieces for losing Deron

Wizards cause that team is doomed and will likely have Wall end up wanting out if they can't add any other talent around him (Other than NE-NE)

Detroit, Charlotte and Toronto are going to get screwed in this draft too lol.

But In conclusion, the answer is clear: THE KNICKS ARE BACK.

I basically agree with your end records, but I see GS falling to 10th or 11th as a team below I feel will move up to the top 3. Which would mean that Utah would get the pick.

49warriors
03-20-2012, 10:55 PM
Hello everyone.....we will have San Antonio pick regardless....so its a good chance we have 2picks...in front of the pistons...rip that....

itsripcity32
03-20-2012, 10:57 PM
I don't think the Cavs and Wizards are gonna luck out, since they already got recent number one picks.
As for Utah, Favors (number 3 pick) and Kanter (number 3 pick) should be enough.

Hornets are getting a top 3 pick for sure tho.

NoahH
03-21-2012, 01:05 AM
It looks like GSW is tanking for the pick

Sactown
03-21-2012, 01:15 AM
I don't want the Kings to win the lottery.. I hope the Bobcats get it... they're the only team without any sort of future franchise corncerstone.. if there is a god the Bobcats get it

Public Enemy #1
03-21-2012, 01:18 AM
Tanking... but will be enough? Leave it to David Stern to find out on LottoBall day

BKLYNpigeon
03-21-2012, 01:24 AM
Thank you. Finally, some people who understand that they the Warriors can get their lotto pick in more than just one way.

As a piston fan in the bay area, I just don't want them to picking ahead of the pistons ;)


It happened last year Warriors got Ekpe Udoh, Pistons got Greg Monroe.

dont worry, Warriors dont know how to draft.

BKLYNpigeon
03-21-2012, 01:25 AM
who cares....this topic doesnt really need to be discussed.

Gram
03-23-2012, 05:20 PM
Thank you. Finally, some people who understand that they the Warriors can get their lotto pick in more than just one way.

As a piston fan in the bay area, I just don't want them to picking ahead of the pistons ;)

Hey, last time they did they did us a favour. ;)

Deemerc
03-23-2012, 05:28 PM
hahahahaaha @ the third poll answer. thats hilarious