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ManRam
03-14-2012, 03:07 PM
Portland's talks with Minnesota on a Jamal Crawford deal are gathering momentum again, sources tell Y! Sports.


Portland's talks with Minnesota for Jamal Crawford are part of a 3-way scenario with Lakers, source says. Michael Beasley would go to LA.

@WojYahooNBA

Makes sense for all three parties...depending on what Portland is getting out of this.

LA gets Beasley
Minny gets Crawford
Portland gets ????

Hellcrooner
03-14-2012, 03:09 PM
Beasley :facepalm: liek there arent already problems about touches between Kobe and the Twin towers.

Chronz
03-14-2012, 03:10 PM
I wanted Crawford, I just knew Hawks team would be pursuing every damn player we have an eye on, we have the same ****ing team with the same damn needs. Only I think they have more expendable assets.

Anyways, putting my bias aside, I think its a good move all around depending on who else is involved. Minny wants to make a playoff push and LAL could use more talent.

CB29
03-14-2012, 03:11 PM
why does minny want crawford?

Chronz
03-14-2012, 03:11 PM
Beasley :facepalm: liek there arent already problems about touches between Kobe and the Twin towers.

I think the idea is to alleviate Kobe, with 2 perimeter threats it could open up the inside game. I dont know if Beasley will live up to it, I highly doubt it actually, but hes talented so its worth the gamble.

ManRam
03-14-2012, 03:11 PM
why does minny want crawford?

They seem OK about adding a SG even with a mildly expensive contract. They've been in discussions with Orlando about Richardson.

I guess they could use a veteran scoring wing? I mean, it is a need of theirs.

I initially thought the same thing, thinking there's no way they'd want Richardson (or Crawford), but the rumors won't die. Maybe they actually do.

Hellcrooner
03-14-2012, 03:12 PM
why does minny want crawford?

cause their Sg players are a mess and they no longer can user ridnour and barea at the position with rubio out.

Chronz
03-14-2012, 03:13 PM
why does minny want crawford?

Cuz hes a SG who can log some time playing PG (Rubio is injured, Barrea is Barea)

bluefire7002
03-14-2012, 03:13 PM
Portland would probably settle for that TPE?

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-14-2012, 03:14 PM
Oooooh yeaaahh!

**** gonna go down in Lakerland! :rock:

Davidgta1
03-14-2012, 03:14 PM
Portland would get lakers first or second pick? Or Luke Walton?

justinnum1
03-14-2012, 03:15 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

CB29
03-14-2012, 03:15 PM
i haven't been following them that much but i thought that they had decent wings in wesley and ellington... i think that they need a better defensive presence.

Aust
03-14-2012, 03:17 PM
I'm guessing LA throws in a pick, or we go back to that Felton for Blake deal and add it in.

HouRealCoach
03-14-2012, 03:17 PM
Minny wins

DaLakerz Rulz
03-14-2012, 03:20 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

It doesn't. All this does is create more ball hogging/bad shot problems.

Mcdoh
03-14-2012, 03:21 PM
so in return what will LA give?... walton.. ? :D

lakerboy
03-14-2012, 03:21 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

It solves our scoring problem. It will relieve us from watching Ron Artest shoot bricks with 75% accuracy

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-14-2012, 03:21 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

Beasley addresses our main bench scoring threat.

PG will be someone like Sessions, or, if LAL can somehow can some more players and assets involved and get Ray Felton from Portland as well.

310Casper
03-14-2012, 03:22 PM
beasley and goldilocks off the bench, scoring. Want. Need. Get it!!!

Kaspa
03-14-2012, 03:25 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

I would think there will be another move after this one. Sessions anyone???

nickdymez
03-14-2012, 03:26 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

What makes you think they would not make anymore trades?

tyfreaks brotha
03-14-2012, 03:30 PM
Wonder what Blazers get

king4day
03-14-2012, 03:31 PM
I see Portland getting a first rounder from LA.

310Casper
03-14-2012, 03:33 PM
I see Portland getting a first rounder from LA.

If the Lakers also get sessions, then I'd give away that 1st round pick for Beasley. God, I hope this happens.

PurpleJesus
03-14-2012, 03:34 PM
i haven't been following them that much but i thought that they had decent wings in wesley and ellington... i think that they need a better defensive presence.

No. Our wings completely blow. Ellington never even plays, and Wes J is statistically the worst starter in the NBA....and we dont have much help coming off the bench for that position either.

Lake_Show2416
03-14-2012, 03:35 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7q8ud6o

+ Lakers 1st going to the Blazers

310Casper
03-14-2012, 03:38 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7q8ud6o

+ Lakers 1st going to the Blazers

:drool:

PurpleJesus
03-14-2012, 03:44 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7q8ud6o

+ Lakers 1st going to the Blazers

lol, no.

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-14-2012, 03:49 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7q8ud6o

+ Lakers 1st going to the Blazers

That's the best trade scenario I see Lake_Show2416. Then sign Rasheed to fill McBob's void and we're good to go to get that Larry O'Brien trophy!

dsonLAL24
03-14-2012, 04:02 PM
Wonder what Blazers get

steve blake.

blystr2002
03-14-2012, 04:04 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

It doesn't, but they have also been looking for a SF/SG who can score. We need offense from the bench and another scorer from mid range/perimeter. Need to create space for bigs and right now that is only Kobe.

kobebabe
03-14-2012, 04:04 PM
how does this help us? last time i checked our biggest need was PG

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-14-2012, 04:04 PM
how does this solve LA's pg problem?

we slide murphy to PG:drool:

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-14-2012, 04:16 PM
Lakers also engaging in a 3-team deal to acquire Sessions.

Lakers trade their 1st rounder to Houston, Houston trades Flynn to the Cavs and Cavs trade Sessions to LA.

numba1CHANGsta
03-14-2012, 04:24 PM
Beasley=Odom 2.0

Hellcrooner
03-14-2012, 04:29 PM
Beasley=Odom 2.0

odom, deffends, passes, has iq, plays for the team, rebounds.

beasely, plays for him and chuks the ball.


yeah....identical...:rolleyes:

ThunderousDemon
03-14-2012, 04:31 PM
You can have Luke Walton, he has a High basketball I.Q. :nod:

Bruno
03-14-2012, 04:45 PM
LAL should try to get back Felton.

dannyh1469
03-14-2012, 04:56 PM
If the lakers come out with Beasley and sessions I'll be happy

Hawkeye15
03-14-2012, 04:58 PM
as a Wolves fan, I am fine with this. Beasley is losing minutes by the day to Williams, and we are in even more of a need at SG with Rubio going down and Ridnour having to run the point full time. Crawford can opt out of his deal after the next 23 games if he wants to, or stay another year.

kblo247
03-14-2012, 05:02 PM
@Daniel Artest I guess Ron is out of LA by tomorrow. So long Tinseltown.

@Daniel Artest #15 TWolves jersey. Blahhhh.


Not sure if Ron's bro is serious but I know hawk eye would cut a mother****er if true lol

LA_Raiders
03-14-2012, 05:25 PM
Another Touble SF to LA... At least he can run...

mgsports
03-14-2012, 05:34 PM
This deal is getting closer to becoming a reality, according to Chris Haynes of CSNNW.com. Haynes says (via Twitter) there will be other pieces involved if the teams reach an agreement, but that Crawford, Beasley, and Blake are the primary parts. Jerry Zgoda of the Star Tribune agrees that this trade is the most likely move for the Timberwolves (Twitter link)

Hawkeye15
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
oh god, no on Artest to the Wolves, PLEASEEEEEEE

LA_Raiders
03-14-2012, 05:37 PM
we slide murphy to PG:drool:

:clap:

mgsports
03-14-2012, 05:38 PM
The Blazers would receive a first-round pick in addition to Blake, tweets Joe Freeman of The Oregonian. Freeman isn't sure where the pick would be coming from, though I have to assume it'd be one of the Lakers' first-rounders. Meanwhile, Crawford's agent tells Jason Quick of The Oregonian that the deal is close to being done (Twitter link).

shep33
03-14-2012, 05:40 PM
oh god, no on Artest to the Wolves, PLEASEEEEEEE

lol

LA_Raiders
03-14-2012, 05:40 PM
If this gets done, looks like the Lakers will do another trade, we have too many SFs...

shep33
03-14-2012, 05:43 PM
If this gets done, looks like the Lakers will do another trade, we have too many SFs...

and only one pg

AI4MVP
03-14-2012, 05:45 PM
If Artest comes, he is not allowed to shoot. Or speak.

rockbottom2010
03-14-2012, 05:45 PM
gasol mite be going to portland

mgsports
03-14-2012, 05:48 PM
Morris also plays PG.
Arenas?
Everything has been agreed upon except for what the Blazers would receive from the Lakers, tweets Chris Haynes. According to Haynes (on Twitter), the Blazers wants a draft pick, with Blake being the fallback option. I don't see how the deal gets done if Blake is the only asset heading to Portland.
If Gasol in deal then Camby or Wallace or Thomas or Smith is coming back.

shep33
03-14-2012, 05:48 PM
gasol mite be going to portland

Unless Lamarcus is coming back, which he isn't... no way in hell

KnokOut
03-14-2012, 05:49 PM
Wolves insider Jerry Zgoda just tweeted he is hearing this likely gets done.

Beantownsboss
03-14-2012, 05:54 PM
My guess is Portland will be getting the Lakers 1st round draft pick they received from Dallas, and an expiring contract or semi-decent prospect.

shep33
03-14-2012, 05:56 PM
Lot's of chatter on twitter about this being done, nothing confirmed yet

lakersfan01
03-14-2012, 05:56 PM
i haven't been following them that much but i thought that they had decent wings in wesley and ellington... i think that they need a better defensive presence.

Sweet sig gif

king2218
03-14-2012, 05:57 PM
Minny shouldn't do this trade...they should trade Beasley to ORL for J-Rich & the Magic's 1st rd pick! :D

lakersfan01
03-14-2012, 05:57 PM
My guess is Portland will be getting the Lakers 1st round draft pick they received from Dallas, and an expiring contract or semi-decent prospect.

Blake and a 2nd rd pick

KnokOut
03-14-2012, 05:58 PM
Darren Wolfson ‏ @DarrenWolfson
Jamal Crawford's agent, Andy Miller, can't say yet the deal is done. But certainly appearing that way. #Twolves

BigCityofDreams
03-14-2012, 05:58 PM
How good is Beasley?

Sota4Ever
03-14-2012, 05:58 PM
pass on that contract.

ManRam
03-14-2012, 06:04 PM
http://minnesota.sbnation.com/minnesota-timberwolves/2012/3/14/2871822/nba-trade-rumors-minnesota-timberwolves-jamal-crawford-los-angeles-lakers-derek-fisher


Wait...so Fisher is an asset?

I don't get this...for Portland.

KnokOut
03-14-2012, 06:05 PM
Hearing it's Steve Blake+1st round to POR.

Chaoticone33
03-14-2012, 06:08 PM
Derek Fisher wouldn't make sense for Portland.. Blake sounds like a better fit.

SmartestGuyHere
03-14-2012, 06:09 PM
Fisher + Blake hopefully...

dsonLAL24
03-14-2012, 06:09 PM
Hearing it's Steve Blake+1st round to POR.

WTH! first it was just a 1st round pick and the Lakers turned it down, and now we have to give away both blake and 1st round??!!

mgsports
03-14-2012, 06:11 PM
Is Fisher better then Felton?

Lake_Show2416
03-14-2012, 06:19 PM
there hasn't been any confirmation wut the Lakers will be sending the Blazers in the trade, everything is speculation

it's unclear whether Portland want a player, just a 1st or both

the only thing thats clear is Crawford will go to the Wolves & Beasley will go the the Lakers

mgsports
03-14-2012, 06:23 PM
It appears the Lakers will send a first-round pick to the Blazers in the deal, reports Sam Amico of Fox Sports Ohio. The Lakers would like to target a point guard in another, but giving up the pick makes that difficult.

DaLakerz Rulz
03-14-2012, 06:24 PM
Is Fisher better then Felton?

is this question a joke?

Gibby23
03-14-2012, 06:25 PM
WTH! first it was just a 1st round pick and the Lakers turned it down, and now we have to give away both blake and 1st round??!!

I heard we are also getting Sessions from the Cavs in the same deal. Is it a 4 team deal?


The Wolves, Lakers and Blazers are talking about a three-team trade that would send Ramon Sessions to L.A. along with Michael Beasley while Jamal Crawford would head to Minnesota. The Cavs are looking for a first-round pick in the deal and Steve Blake would go to Portland, according to multiple reports.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17791257/trade-deadline-buzz-31412-lakers-wolves-and-blazers-talking-deal

SmartestGuyHere
03-14-2012, 06:25 PM
Is Fisher better then Felton?

LOL terrible.

Ashby
03-14-2012, 06:26 PM
WTH! first it was just a 1st round pick and the Lakers turned it down, and now we have to give away both blake and 1st round??!!

There were two reports (weeks ago) that had the Lakers giving a 1st round pick for Beasley and another for Sessions. The TPE we have can't take on both contracts, so we'd have to send somebody out for both to work regardless, if we want both Beasley and Sessions.

Lake_Show2416
03-14-2012, 06:27 PM
It appears the Lakers will send a first-round pick to the Blazers in the deal, reports Sam Amico of Fox Sports Ohio. The Lakers would like to target a point guard in another, but giving up the pick makes that difficult.

where did u hear that?

Ashby
03-14-2012, 06:28 PM
I heard we are also getting Sessions from the Cavs in the same deal. Is it a 4 team deal?



http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/17791257/trade-deadline-buzz-31412-lakers-wolves-and-blazers-talking-deal

I like this. Instead of giving Blake + 2 first rounders , we end up giving Blake + 1.

Lakeshow24KB
03-14-2012, 06:29 PM
We badly need blake. If we send him then we should bring Felton and send a SF to portland

Gibby23
03-14-2012, 06:29 PM
where did u hear that?

Look at the link I posted on the last page. it say the lakers are getting Sessions and Beasley in the deal and sending out Blake to Portland and looks like a 1st to the cavs.

mgsports
03-14-2012, 06:34 PM
Hoopsrumors.com
Felton is younger then Fisher but Fisher would be a better starter for Trailblazers at moment.
Also maybe also Jamison or Gibson or Parker in Deal to

mgsports
03-14-2012, 06:34 PM
Hoopsrumors.com
Felton is younger then Fisher but Fisher would be a better starter for Trailblazers at moment.
Also maybe also Jamison or Gibson or Parker in Deal to

Lake_Show2416
03-14-2012, 06:37 PM
Look at the link I posted on the last page. it say the lakers are getting Sessions and Beasley in the deal and sending out Blake to Portland and looks like a 1st to the cavs.

there isn't anything bout a 4 team deal, that is a badly written speculation blog site that starts by saying its a 3 team deal

I only believe the credible reports that have come out, it's only a deal between Wolves, Lakers & Blazers....... no Cavs mentioned by any reporter i trust

Gibby23
03-14-2012, 06:39 PM
there isn't anything bout a 4 team deal, that is a badly written speculation blog site that starts by saying its a 3 team deal

I only believe the credible reports that have come out, it's only a deal between Wolves, Lakers & Blazers....... no Cavs mentioned by any reporter i trust

Check out Sam Amico's tweets, I think he is a Cavs beat guy. he mentions 2 firsts going out and Lakers getting Beasely and Sessions.

Mcdoh
03-14-2012, 06:48 PM
include felton atleast..

Sota4Ever
03-14-2012, 06:53 PM
Kahn doesn't lose trades.

jpagemn
03-14-2012, 09:48 PM
I like Jamal for Beasley, but if we have to take back Metta, this could be trouble.

unwantedplayer
03-14-2012, 10:04 PM
Looks like its done.


Yes, it's official Jamal Crawford has played his last game as a Portland Trail Blazer

https://twitter.com/#!/ChrisBHaynes/status/180108580370915328

SmartestGuyHere
03-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Wouldn't Crawford be better pickup than Beasley for the Lakers? Crawford is a consistent scorer..

reffahead
03-14-2012, 10:17 PM
Minny don't do this to yourselves. Craw is a chemistry killer. He worked in the A because it was known he could chuck it just about anytime he wanted.

shep33
03-14-2012, 10:24 PM
As a Laker fan, Crawford makes more sense lol. But realistically we have the worst bench in the NBA, so anything helps right now.

kblo247
03-14-2012, 11:13 PM
Wouldn't Crawford be better pickup than Beasley for the Lakers? Crawford is a consistent scorer..

We need a stretch 4 in the vein of Horry or Odom. Murphy and McRoverts have gave us less than out PG's. Beasley could pretty much play with one of Drew or Pau at all times and score for a bench that lacks scoring. Odom and Brown averaged 23 last year by themselves, this year the bench as a whole averages 20. Beasley would be our second unit offense as just getting 10-15 from, anyone but the bug 3 is huge

Burrzy
03-15-2012, 02:10 AM
LA will be happy with Beasley, if they can land Sessions they have the best line up in the NBA. There is no way Beasley will be on the bench with Metta starting, the guy is just terrible.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Pau
Bynum

That team would win the championship imo, Beasley is figuring it out and I think he'd have enough respect for Kobe that he can play off of him pretty well. Beasley can hit the 3 the mid range is his bread and butter. The guy can score almost as easily as Kobe. I am sad to see him go as a Wolf fan, but Williams is our long term answer at the 3. Beasley would be awesome to resign at a cheaper price though. I'd love it if he would play it out in LA, get some post season experience then walk and get resigned by the Wolves lol. I'd rather play for LA though.

SmartestGuyHere
03-15-2012, 02:17 AM
LA will be happy with Beasley, if they can land Sessions they have the best line up in the NBA. There is no way Beasley will be on the bench with Metta starting, the guy is just terrible.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Pau
Bynum

That team would win the championship imo, Beasley is figuring it out and I think he'd have enough respect for Kobe that he can play off of him pretty well. Beasley can hit the 3 the mid range is his bread and butter. The guy can score almost as easily as Kobe. I am sad to see him go as a Wolf fan, but Williams is our long term answer at the 3. Beasley would be awesome to resign at a cheaper price though. I'd love it if he would play it out in LA, get some post season experience then walk and get resigned by the Wolves lol. I'd rather play for LA though.

Metta defense compensates for his lack of offense. Don't just read the box score and act like you know everything. Artest's defense basically won us the game tonight.

Jenceman
03-15-2012, 03:09 AM
Yeah Beasley would be far better coming off the bench, with about 15-20 minutes at SF, and 10-15 at PF. Lakers really need a scorer off the bench to pair with Bynum and the second unit.

Anyways, I feel that if the Lakers pull in Beasley and Sessions they are right there with the Heat, Bulls, and Thunder.

JJ_JKidd
03-15-2012, 03:29 AM
NEW ORLEANS -- Los Angeles Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak vowed he would be pursuing deals ever since the Chris Paul trade fell through on the eve of training camp and he finally might have found his trade on the eve of Thursday's noon PT trade deadline.

The Lakers revisited talks to acquire Minnesota Timberwolves forward Michael Beasley on Wednesday, multiple league sources told ESPNLosAngeles.com. Several variations of the trade have been discussed. One would land Beasley on the Lakers in a three-team deal that would send Portland Trail Blazers guard Jamal Crawford to the Wolves and Luke Ridnour from Minnesota to Portland. Los Angeles would give up one of its two 2012 first round draft picks in the deal and use its $8.9 million trade exception, acquired when it traded Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks in December, to absorb Beasley's approximate $6.3 million salary. Portland would also receive the Lakers' first round pick.

As of late Wednesday night no deal was completed, but a source familiar with the negotiations said, "the sides have momentum."

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7689325/sources-los-angeles-lakers-heating-trade-talks-minnesota-timberwolves-michael-beasley

C-Style
03-15-2012, 03:34 AM
I agree Lakers would be scary if they do get Beasley n Sessions. They r the 3rd best team in the West with no bench, PG OR SF. These 2 moves will fix all issues.

Zefflin
03-15-2012, 03:44 AM
we're gonna get him, but we need a PG...both would help immensely

ThunderousDemon
03-15-2012, 03:51 AM
Come on Mitch, DO IT!

JJ_JKidd
03-15-2012, 03:56 AM
LA will be happy with Beasley, if they can land Sessions they have the best line up in the NBA. There is no way Beasley will be on the bench with Metta starting, the guy is just terrible.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Pau
Bynum

That team would win the championship imo, Beasley is figuring it out and I think he'd have enough respect for Kobe that he can play off of him pretty well. Beasley can hit the 3 the mid range is his bread and butter. The guy can score almost as easily as Kobe. I am sad to see him go as a Wolf fan, but Williams is our long term answer at the 3. Beasley would be awesome to resign at a cheaper price though. I'd love it if he would play it out in LA, get some post season experience then walk and get resigned by the Wolves lol. I'd rather play for LA though.

:confused:

jsthornton7
03-15-2012, 03:57 AM
Metta defense compensates for his lack of offense. Don't just read the box score and act like you know everything. Artest's defense basically won us the game tonight.

sadly because of a lack of production from this lakers team, metta's defense became important against an awful hornets squad.

Interesting stat i noticed: Jarrett Jack was 8-8. Metta guarded him for a lot of the second half and he wound up 13-21.

D1JM
03-15-2012, 04:00 AM
why do the lakers need him exactly? beasley shoots without touching his conscious. or is kobe going to keep him in line?

Yunqn
03-15-2012, 04:11 AM
I think the idea is to alleviate Kobe, with 2 perimeter threats it could open up the inside game. I dont know if Beasley will live up to it, I highly doubt it actually, but hes talented so its worth the gamble.

no i think its because l.a has probably the worst bench in the league or maybe 2nd to miami's...

beasley would bring the scoring that lamar brought.. hopefully for them he plays under team concept..

Yunqn
03-15-2012, 04:15 AM
.

jsthornton7
03-15-2012, 04:15 AM
i just hope he takes all of troy murphy's minutes. i also think mcroberts has been playing much better recently. i think mcroberts + pau works way better than murphy + pau when bynum isnt on the floor

-Kobe24-TJ19-
03-15-2012, 04:15 AM
we need a SF who can shoot the three...wonder if the Heat would gonna bait if we offer Murphy straight up for LeBron:shrug:

Bruno
03-15-2012, 04:16 AM
LAL should try to pry Felton from Portland in this deal.

Felton/Fisher
Bryant/Glock
Artest/Barnes
Gasol/Beasley
Bynum/McRoberts.

team could go deep with a little luck.

Yunqn
03-15-2012, 04:37 AM
shouldnt the lakers use their tpe to trade for a young wing like ariza who already knows how to play with this team.. doesnt new orleans want some cap space and already have acquired a young sf in aminu who was a lotto pick.. lakers could give the hornets a pick seperately..

4 way trade


lakers : sessions

minnesota : crawford

portland : blake and l.a 1st

cleveland : beasley

then l.a would look like

sessions / goudelock
kobe / barnes
ariza / artest
gasol / murphy
bynum or dwight / mcroberts

and i used dwight as a possibilty because bynum for dwight maybe the best deal they may have available at this point..

kblo247
03-15-2012, 04:49 AM
why do the lakers need him exactly? beasley shoots without touching his conscious. or is kobe going to keep him in line?

The knock is no one on the second unit can score besides Goudelock who is too small to play SG and doesn't have the handles of a PG.

They are playing Blake who is right there with Fosh in terrible shooting, and Josh/Troy who both haven't done anything as Odoms replacement which hurts LA. Las bench this year averages 20ppg, but last year Shannon and Lamar averaged 23 by themselves without even counting the production from Matt and Steve. The team is also scoring it's least amount of points in the shot clock era on average

Beasley fits needs. Bench scoring being the first, heck scoring of any kind consistently after KGB. He also has the size to play stretch 4 with either Bynum or Gasol which McRoberts and Murphy have failed at on the glass and scoreboard.

Beasley also indirectly rests Kobe. Beasley can play sf and score which allows Matt to move over to SG for spurts which has been a problem this year when Kobe sits. Blake and Goudelock cant defend SG's, which is why Kobe has played 12 games this year in which he has not sat a second of the 3rd and 4th quarters simply because they can't be hid. Matt and Ron can't play together because Ron can't score, but Beasley can so they can go with Matt, Beasley, and the two bigs to give Kobe 10 to 15 minutes of rest where he isn't asked to score by manufacturing every shot or create for everyone

The other need for LA is obvious, but they could just do patch work and sign Gilbert to go with Blake and Fish if they cant land a Felton or Sessions.

kblo247
03-15-2012, 04:50 AM
shouldnt the lakers use their tpe to trade for a young wing like ariza who already knows how to play with this team.. doesnt new orleans want some cap space and already have acquired a young sf in aminu who was a lotto pick.. lakers could give the hornets a pick seperately..

4 way trade


lakers : sessions

minnesota : crawford

portland : blake and l.a 1st

cleveland : beasley

then l.a would look like

sessions / goudelock
kobe / barnes
ariza / artest
gasol / murphy
bynum or dwight / mcroberts

and i used dwight as a possibilty because bynum for dwight maybe the best deal they may have available at this point..
Buss ain't dealing with Stern after being screwed by him. He killed the Paul fiasco when t was dragging on that Saturday from the hospital because he knew the team was being screwed with

Chronz
03-15-2012, 05:27 AM
no i think its because l.a has probably the worst bench in the league or maybe 2nd to miami's...

beasley would bring the scoring that lamar brought.. hopefully for them he plays under team concept..
They go hand in hand, Kobe is forced into more MPG because the bench isnt trustworthy

JayW_1023
03-15-2012, 05:45 AM
Finally the stupid trade talk is over. We can finally talk basketball now.

Aust
03-15-2012, 06:26 AM
Depending on how much production Beasley gives us can go a long way into us signing him long term in the offseason. He has the youth and athleticism (and potential) we've been looking for, and seems to have matured at least a lil bit.
We amnesty Metta in the offseason, and trade Luke at some point since his contract will FINALLY become valuable, we'll have good space for Beasley. We should also resign Barnes as I've always been really high on everything he does for us.
Beasley/Barnes would completely solve our SF issues imo.

NFLNBA
03-15-2012, 06:50 AM
As long as we dont give up Blake im really happy with this move! We get a young guy who can score. He shoots the 3 better then anyone else we have and can play the 3 and 4. If we lose Blake we NEED another PG in return. Blake is the best PG we got and should be starting.

Blake
Kobe
Beasley
Gasol
Bynum

Will be the line-up we finish games with GARENTEED! So why wont that be our starting 5? Well cause fish gets to start for his past accomplishments and Artest SUX off the bench, its a mental thing for him to start.

Beasley helps us a lot, is it enough to compete for a title? No, but i think we can meet up with the Thunder in the Con Finals with the help Beasley gives us. Still a PG who can drive and finish away but maybe next year we get that.

Citanoxeno
03-15-2012, 08:53 AM
Beasley is not coming off the bench. I don't know why you guys have him listed as such. He will be the starting sf and Ron will finish out coming off the bench and amnestyed at the end of the season. The lakers are not going to give up this much for a bench player.

Aust
03-15-2012, 08:56 AM
^Who said he'd be coming off the bench?

Chacarron
03-15-2012, 09:15 AM
we need a SF who can shoot the three...wonder if the Heat would gonna bait if we offer Murphy straight up for LeBron:shrug:

Bro we don't want Murphy to kill us in the Finals.

NFLNBA
03-15-2012, 09:17 AM
^ MWP is proven to be better with starting unit, it seems to be a mental thing but dont be suprised! Fisher is still starting over Blake right?

Also Beasley is 6' 10 he is a tall SF isnt he more of a PF? Has that Odom body but Odom couldnt play the SF position was a bad 3 pt shooter and wasnt quick enough but Beasley is a lot better shooter so guess it could work!

Thats a HUGE line-up and we get even more length

Bynum 7'
Gasol 7'
Beasley 6 '10

Someone tell me why Beasley being this tall, athletic 23 yr old is not a good shot blocker? If he could add that to his game no-one could go to the rim with him and bynum/Gasol

thesparky33
03-15-2012, 09:28 AM
Beasley is far more effective at the 4 than at the 3. For the Lakers, it would be more beneficial to have him play a 6th man roll, and have him play PF.

thesparky33
03-15-2012, 09:30 AM
Someone tell me why Beasley being this tall, athletic 23 yr old is not a good shot blocker? If he could add that to his game no-one could go to the rim with him and bynum/Gasol

Beasley's listed at 6'10, but I think he's more realistically in-between 6'8 and 6'9.

WSU Tony
03-15-2012, 09:52 AM
You're absolutely right, Sparky.

I don't see this deal going down without Blake going to Portland.

Hawkeye15
03-15-2012, 09:58 AM
reading through here, it seems Laker fans think Beasley is much better than he really is. The guy is a chucker who heats up occasionally, but doesn't defend, ever, is a subpar passer and ball handler, doesn't rebound well, and simply has been a waste of talent. There is a reason he was had for two 2nd rounders, and there is a reason the Wolves are trying to trade his *** for anything right now. I understand Artest has sucked, but Beasley isn't going to help anymore than Artest does, because what you gain on offense is lost on the other end.

Davidgta1
03-15-2012, 10:08 AM
reading through here, it seems Laker fans think Beasley is much better than he really is. The guy is a chucker who heats up occasionally, but doesn't defend, ever, is a subpar passer and ball handler, doesn't rebound well, and simply has been a waste of talent. There is a reason he was had for two 2nd rounders, and there is a reason the Wolves are trying to trade his *** for anything right now. I understand Artest has sucked, but Beasley isn't going to help anymore than Artest does, because what you gain on offense is lost on the other end.

Hey he could put up 10 - 15 points per game that's what the lakers bench needs which is the worst in the nba.

C-Style
03-15-2012, 10:11 AM
Hawkeye.....its just what the doctor ordered... The only thing Lakers want from >beasley is to chuck the ball off the bench nothing more nothing less. As long as he keeps shooting 45%

shep33
03-15-2012, 10:14 AM
I wouldn't give up a first for Beasley in all truth. What's sad however, is that he automatically becomes our 4th best player

Hellcrooner
03-15-2012, 10:15 AM
reading through here, it seems Laker fans think Beasley is much better than he really is. The guy is a chucker who heats up occasionally, but doesn't defend, ever, is a subpar passer and ball handler, doesn't rebound well, and simply has been a waste of talent. There is a reason he was had for two 2nd rounders, and there is a reason the Wolves are trying to trade his *** for anything right now. I understand Artest has sucked, but Beasley isn't going to help anymore than Artest does, because what you gain on offense is lost on the other end.



PRetty much .

Im telling its a HORRIBLE trade for us , but no one in lakers forum believes me.

Hawkeye15
03-15-2012, 10:15 AM
Beasley's point come but they don't help. I am simply letting you guys know in advance that despite his talents, he isn't a winning basketball player. He just puts up numbers that don't do anything in the W column.

Hawkeye15
03-15-2012, 10:16 AM
PRetty much .

Im telling its a HORRIBLE trade for us , but no one in lakers forum believes me.

I have already fought Miami and Minnesota fans regarding Beasley.

Hellcrooner
03-15-2012, 10:20 AM
I have already fought Miami and Minnesota fans regarding Beasley.

Its a pity that this young generation sees the stat sheet reads "many points" and dotn care to focus on anything more.

Then they get angry if you tell them dudes like Arenas, Jennings, Gay, Ellis, Beasley etc ARE NOT GOOD in reality.

Avenged
03-15-2012, 10:21 AM
Beasley will alleviate Kobe, he shoots a higher % than him, and it's not like it's going to be asked of him to put 20 shots per game. He's going to get a lot of easy looks with Kobe, Pau, and Bynum demanding a lot of attention. I'd much rather him get those open looks than Metta.

We have Metta for defensive purposes, as well as Barnes. He's not coming to L.A (if he does) with the intent of him being a 1-3 option.

3ballbomber
03-15-2012, 10:21 AM
I have already fought Miami and Minnesota fans regarding Beasley.
ask miami fans about me regarding beasley ;)


No way LA want Beasley!!! he is a knuckle head. Again he's too short for his natural position and can't guard SF's if they have to play him in the 3 spot. did i mention he's a knuckle head?

Mr_Amaziing
03-15-2012, 10:24 AM
Beasley will alleviate Kobe, he shoots a higher % than him, and it's not like it's going to be asked of him to put 20 shots per game. He's going to get a lot of easy looks with Kobe, Pau, and Bynum demanding a lot of attention. I'd much rather him get those open looks than Metta.

We have Metta for defensive purposes, as well as Barnes. He's not coming to L.A (if he does) with the intent of him being a 1-3 option.

This

luke21
03-15-2012, 10:25 AM
He don't put wins cause he plays for the god damn Wolves......he shoots over 40% from the field and 43% from 3 pt range!!The Lakers need a scorer off the bench. I don't care about rebounding and D from him so much as his time per game is limited. We our one of the best defensive teams in the league, we are the best rebounding team in the league.......the two 7ft trees behind him will help with that. Bottom line he can score and Lakers need scoring from other than their Big 3

DaLakerz Rulz
03-15-2012, 10:26 AM
Look Beasley isn't ideal, but I think you guys don't understand how bad the Lakers bench is. We need someone to take some minutes from the starters and score to at least maintain the lead. No one on the bench now can do that, its the WORST BENCH IN THE NBA. So as bad as you guys think Beasley is, he is better than whatever crap the Lakers have.

Sota4Ever
03-15-2012, 10:29 AM
Its a pity that this young generation sees the stat sheet reads "many points" and dotn care to focus on anything more.

Then they get angry if you tell them dudes like Arenas, Jennings, Gay, Ellis, Beasley etc ARE NOT GOOD in reality.

Why did you put Gay in there?

BKLYNpigeon
03-15-2012, 10:30 AM
Beasley is young.. with alot of promise and talent. if he played on the Lakers im sure he will get his act together. its worth the risk. look at how many player that cam through LA and actually turned their career around and started to get better.

Caron Butler, Ariza, Shannon Brown , etc.

C-Style
03-15-2012, 10:30 AM
Some ppl think we want him to perform as our 2nd or 3rd best player, that was probably ur expectations for him but not for most Laker fans. We only want him to score off the bench and rebound..hes pretty good at that period.

Chinoeyes
03-15-2012, 10:38 AM
Its still a low risk trade since he's coming off the books next season.
Lakers have a few months to evaluate his potential. If it doesnt workout then he's gone.
If it does then we'll have to decide who to keep with him, barnes or artest.

With the current bench situation, Bealey updgrades the roster. can play 4 and have barnes on 3rd. he can shoot all he want with the second unit.

Its frustrating to have leads and blow it up when the reserves take on the court.

RaiderLakersA's
03-15-2012, 11:05 AM
The Lakers have had a bench problem for as long as I can remember. Next to his failure to add a young, quality PG, I'll say that that has been the biggest issue that I have with Mitch.

Bring us Beasley if you can, but I'd feel better if we actually used our draft picks and drafted better for depth.

nyKnicks126
03-15-2012, 11:08 AM
Mitch almost got rid of Gasol in that CP3 deal.. I can see Lakers try the bulls trade.. get Deng, Gibson, and Asik...

Bynum
Gibson/Ron
Deng
Kobe
Fisher

Much rather have Pau though.

Hawkeye15
03-15-2012, 12:12 PM
Beasley is young.. with alot of promise and talent. if he played on the Lakers im sure he will get his act together. its worth the risk. look at how many player that cam through LA and actually turned their career around and started to get better.

Caron Butler, Ariza, Shannon Brown , etc.

having him around Kobe and Artest isn't going to help him get his act together, sorry.

Anyways, hope the trade goes thru. Laker fans, have fun with Beasley. He will wow you 1/8 games, and piss you off the other 7.

Kashmir13579
03-15-2012, 12:15 PM
^ hope Crawford plays well for you guys.

nickdymez
03-15-2012, 12:26 PM
having him around Kobe and Artest isn't going to help him get his act together, sorry.

Anyways, hope the trade goes thru. Laker fans, have fun with Beasley. He will wow you 1/8 games, and piss you off the other 7.

Yea because Kobe's low work ethic and party lifestyle will definitely be a huge distraction.

Chacarron
03-15-2012, 12:27 PM
having him around Kobe and Artest isn't going to help him get his act together, sorry.

Anyways, hope the trade goes thru. Laker fans, have fun with Beasley. He will wow you 1/8 games, and piss you off the other 7.

Well we had Shannon Brown the past 3 seasons and he did exactly that, show up 1 game and disappear the next 5 or so. We need offense from the bench badly and Beasley will provide that.

VCaintdead17
03-15-2012, 12:48 PM
I think Kobe would be a great influence on Beasley. Artest on the other hand...

justjames
03-15-2012, 02:14 PM
With the Sessions trade, I definitely see Blake gone even though Fisher is the one that should get a reduction in minutes.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Pau
Bynum

That is a pretty decent starting 5.

justjames
03-15-2012, 02:14 PM
double post

Hawkeye15
03-15-2012, 02:23 PM
Yea because Kobe's low work ethic and party lifestyle will definitely be a huge distraction.

that has nothing to do with what I am referring to dude, but as usual, you attempt to come to Kobe's rescue.

DaLakerz Rulz
03-15-2012, 02:26 PM
having him around Kobe and Artest isn't going to help him get his act together, sorry.

Anyways, hope the trade goes thru. Laker fans, have fun with Beasley. He will wow you 1/8 games, and piss you off the other 7.

I assure you, that is still better than showing up 0/43 games, which is what our bench has done this year. Beasley is not some amazing player that is going to deliver the Lakers a championship - most of us fans know that.

reemy
03-15-2012, 02:33 PM
With the Sessions trade, I definitely see Blake gone even though Fisher is the one that should get a reduction in minutes.

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley
Pau
Bynum

That is a pretty decent starting 5.

Better than decent, their good with Beas off the bench. He would be the 4th best player in that line-up and probably wouldn't get his shots. Like the Laker fans say he would provide much needed depth off the bench.

Hawkeye15
03-15-2012, 02:37 PM
I assure you, that is still better than showing up 0/43 games, which is what our bench has done this year. Beasley is not some amazing player that is going to deliver the Lakers a championship - most of us fans know that.

haha, good point. Beasley can occasionally chuck up 18-20 points if given some minutes and he is on. I don't think anyone else on your bench is capable of that right now. Its crazy to think the Lakers have subplanted the Heat from last year as by far the worst bench of a contending team.

Tony_Starks
03-15-2012, 02:40 PM
having him around Kobe and Artest isn't going to help him get his act together, sorry.

Anyways, hope the trade goes thru. Laker fans, have fun with Beasley. He will wow you 1/8 games, and piss you off the other 7.


The point is all we need him for is scoring off the bench. Our bench is so weak that literally any scoring he does is a total bonus. On B Easy worst day he's good for 10 points.

All the other off the court stuff will handle itself. When players come to LA they usually tend not to screw around too much i.e. World Peace. The standard is much higher.....

Hawkeye15
03-15-2012, 02:43 PM
The point is all we need him for is scoring off the bench. Our bench is so weak that literally any scoring he does is a total bonus. On B Easy worst day he's good for 10 points.

All the other off the court stuff will handle itself. When players come to LA they usually tend not to screw around too much i.e. World Peace. The standard is much higher.....


I am not talking about off court. The dude is just a complete idiot. He is slowly turning into such a waste of talent. Oh well. And in reality, I only care about the deal from the Wolves side. I doubt it goes through anyways.

AI4MVP
03-15-2012, 03:23 PM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...cricket cricket

valade16
03-15-2012, 03:41 PM
On the Blazers Forum there is a tweet that said the talks have died involving the Blazers, so don't expect any deal forthcoming.

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-15-2012, 04:00 PM
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