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justinnum1
03-09-2012, 10:41 AM
magicinsider
If it's true Dwight's ($400 mill) shoe deal in Brooklyn is larger than DRose's, plus Russian billionaire promi$e$, can't blame D12 for move

If thats true, he will be in brooklyn no matter what
400 million :speechless:

thats the magic beat writer by the way

gwrighter
03-09-2012, 10:45 AM
And then we the fans ***** about these guys being divas. If this is true, that is an insane amount of money. I don't think he is worth that much for just a shoe deal, but hey, make your paper.

Gritz
03-09-2012, 10:47 AM
Who the hell wants to wear some "Dwight Howard's"?

lol

elonepb
03-09-2012, 10:49 AM
That seems crazy to me, and I'm a Nets fan. How could it be $400M? Rose's deal was $260M and he's a flashy guard. Who is buying a Dwight Howard sneaker?

That said, I don't know who buys any of these shoes. Lebron James is probably the only guy who a $400M sneaker contract would make sense for (even that's crazy though).

gwrighter
03-09-2012, 10:49 AM
Who the hell wants to wear some "Dwight Howard's"?

lol

If you think about it, the shoe will be optimized for big men, but it's not common that you get a human over 6'6, so not many people? But I could be wrong, you never know the kinds of designs they have up their sleeve.

rurichie
03-09-2012, 10:50 AM
I just bought drose 2.5 & i'm a nets fan lol

Master Mind
03-09-2012, 10:50 AM
This sickens me...To think that there are families living out of their cars. Not hating on Dwight

C-Wick925
03-09-2012, 10:57 AM
I just bought drose 2.5 & i'm a nets fan lol

What are you 11 years old?

Gritz
03-09-2012, 11:05 AM
If you think about it, the shoe will be optimized for big men, but it's not common that you get a human over 6'6, so not many people? But I could be wrong, you never know the kinds of designs they have up their sleeve.

What are current big men wearing now? Shaq's??

oak2455
03-09-2012, 11:22 AM
I call BS on the $$$$

deaner
03-09-2012, 11:24 AM
What are you 11 years old?

it a model... not the size....

BALLER R
03-09-2012, 11:30 AM
Jordan is retired and he still sells more shoes than any of these guys

Shmontaine
03-09-2012, 11:38 AM
I call BS on the $$$$

+1

on chicago radio they questioned the validity of the 'adidas not wanting d12 and drose in the same town because it would hurt sales' notion... they had a guy on that said adidas is already losing money on dwight, and "he doesn't sell two pairs of shoes a year"... i can't see them giving d12 that much money... max i would guess would be 100 million, and that's pushing it for me...

raiderNlakerfan
03-09-2012, 11:53 AM
Rose shouldnt of even gotten 260 mil

Rockice_8
03-09-2012, 12:16 PM
Can't deny the power of NY. I'd expect something similar to what Rose got, $400 just sounds crazy.

Davidgta1
03-09-2012, 12:18 PM
Hey Dwight let me hold a dollar

MTL_123
03-09-2012, 12:32 PM
If this is true OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 400 Mill OH MY ****ING GOD WOW

oak2455
03-09-2012, 12:37 PM
Funny ppl believe anything they read .... Lmao

chicago lulz
03-09-2012, 12:46 PM
I just bought drose 2.5 & i'm a nets fan lol


What are you 11 years old?


it a model... not the size....

****inig lol'd!

kozelkid
03-09-2012, 12:50 PM
This sickens me...To think that there are families living out of their cars. Not hating on Dwight

This sickens you?

Don't buy his damn shoes then. ****, I hate when people complain about athletes making money. If you don't like it, don't endorse the produce they're producing by watching their games or buying their products (i.e. jerseys or shoes). Like any business, they provide a product that has an incredibly high demand. They earn their money. That's supply and demand for you.

Not that I believe this particular story. Now I haven't been much of a basketball shoe guy for a LONG time, but since when has there been such a high demand for Dwight Howard shoes? Or for any big man footwear, ever? Even Shaq.

D12 fan
03-09-2012, 12:57 PM
+1

on chicago radio they questioned the validity of the 'adidas not wanting d12 and drose in the same town because it would hurt sales' notion... they had a guy on that said adidas is already losing money on dwight, and "he doesn't sell two pairs of shoes a year"... i can't see them giving d12 that much money... max i would guess would be 100 million, and that's pushing it for me...

Addidas is more than about shoes,Dwight is way more popular than Drose globally,Dwight is the 2nd biggest NBA star in China behind Kobe,Dwight makes more money in China than in the US.Dwight has more endorsements than Drose,people just like his personality.If im not mistaken he has been the leading allstar vote getter the past 3yrs.

Forbes top NBA 10 highest paid athelets yearly(incuding endorsements)

1.Kobe 53mil a year
2.Lebron 48mil a year
3.Dwight 27.6 mil a year
4.Dwade 26.2 mil a year
5.Carmelo 25.1 mil a year
6.Amare 24.5 mil a year
7.KG 23.8 mil a year
8.VC 21.8 mil a year
9.Duncan 21.2 mil a year
10.CP3 20.9 mil a year

Kobe2324
03-09-2012, 12:57 PM
I can't see this being true, as far as the 400 mil goes, im sure he could get a lucrative shoe deal but 400 mil is more than lebron, kobe and drose make for shoe deals and thease are flashy guard who appeal to the majority. but anything close to 200 mil is probly more realistic and I could def see that being enough to get him to go somewhere, but I cant see a shoe deal having any relevance to where you play.

Master Mind
03-09-2012, 01:03 PM
This sickens you?

Don't buy his damn shoes then. ****, I hate when people complain about athletes making money. If you don't like it, don't endorse the produce they're producing by watching their games or buying their products (i.e. jerseys or shoes). Like any business, they provide a product that has an incredibly high demand. They earn their money. That's supply and demand for you.

Not that I believe this particular story. Now I haven't been much of a basketball shoe guy for a LONG time, but since when has there been such a high demand for Dwight Howard shoes? Or for any big man footwear, ever? Even Shaq.

You sicken me :p

Naw but seriously that's how I feel. It still suck, no matter how you put it.

D12 fan
03-09-2012, 01:06 PM
You sicken me :p

Naw but seriously that's how I feel. It still suck, no matter how you put it.

You're just a hater,let the man make his money.

jd25213
03-09-2012, 01:17 PM
Wow, all that for shoes? If this is true now I k ow why he wants Brooklyn so bad.

D12 fan
03-09-2012, 01:23 PM
I doubt this is true,Dwight will not be making 200mil more than his addidas partner Drose,I think it will be in the same range as Drose (200-260 mil range).

Master Mind
03-09-2012, 01:24 PM
You're just a hater,let the man make his money.

If you read my previous post I stated I wasn't hating on Dwight, he can make his money. 400 mill is ridiculous, heck 260 mill is ridiculous. Just thinking about the homeless. If that makes me a turd than whatever, I guess I'm the stinkiest. :shrug:

D-Block21-Chito
03-09-2012, 01:34 PM
What are you 11 years old?

I bought his shoes too. So what? You just looking to pick fights?

Shmontaine
03-09-2012, 01:44 PM
Addidas is more than about shoes,Dwight is way more popular than Drose globally,Dwight is the 2nd biggest NBA star in China behind Kobe,Dwight makes more money in China than in the US.Dwight has more endorsements than Drose,people just like his personality.

http://www.adidas-group.com/en/investorrelations/assets/pdf/quarterly_reports/Q3_2011_En.pdf


2011 Nine months net sales by region:

31% Western Europe
23% North America
16% Other Asian Markets
12% European Emerging Markets
10% Latin America
9% Greater China


adidas sells the least in china... so the 'fact' (unverified) that d12 sells more in china than drose doesn't matter if that's the smallest market for adidas...


2011 Net sales by product category: Miliions of Euros

Footwear: 4,849 - 48.1%
Appearal: 4,199 - 41.65%
Hardware: 1,033 - 10.25%

Adidas sells shoes the most... and sells 2.5x more in America than China... so i don't know how you can make the argument that adidas makes more off of d12 than drose... :shrug:


If im not mistaken he has been the leading allstar vote getter the past 3yrs.

leading in all star votes speaks more to the crappy centers in the league today and not overall popularity... everyone knows d12 is the best center in the league, and there is no way to debate it, so of course he will get the most all star votes for center position... there is much more competition for all star votes in every other position...


Forbes top NBA 10 highest paid athelets yearly(incuding endorsements)

1.Kobe 53mil a year
2.Lebron 48mil a year
3.Dwight 27.6 mil a year
4.Dwade 26.2 mil a year
5.Carmelo 25.1 mil a year
6.Amare 24.5 mil a year
7.KG 23.8 mil a year
8.VC 21.8 mil a year
9.Duncan 21.2 mil a year
10.CP3 20.9 mil a year

what does player income have to do with shoe sales??... btw, drose just got a 100 mil. contract and 250 mil. shoe deal... going forward he will be making 35 million per year from just nba and adidas alone...He has also signed with Wilson Sporting Goods, Skullcandy headphones, Powerade, and Force Factor sports drinks.. it's safe to say drose will be making $40 million per going forward...

Sinestro
03-09-2012, 01:48 PM
I find it hard to believe but if its true more power to him

ichitownclowni
03-09-2012, 02:01 PM
Lol i'm gonna go but my some D12's.......NOT

BklynKnicks3
03-09-2012, 02:10 PM
I wonder the diff in melos sneaker sales since he became a knick anyone know?

ThunderousDemon
03-09-2012, 02:11 PM
All for the love of money, I don't blame him though I would have done the same thing too.

RCSownsU
03-09-2012, 02:35 PM
No way, 400 million for a shoe deal. I just can't see the number being that high.

Chicagofaithful
03-09-2012, 02:37 PM
This sickens me...To think that there are families living out of their cars. Not hating on Dwight

completely agree

D12 fan
03-09-2012, 02:47 PM
http://www.adidas-group.com/en/investorrelations/assets/pdf/quarterly_reports/Q3_2011_En.pdf



adidas sells the least in china... so the 'fact' (unverified) that d12 sells more in china than drose doesn't matter if that's the smallest market for adidas...



Adidas sells shoes the most... and sells 2.5x more in America than China... so i don't know how you can make the argument that adidas makes more off of d12 than drose... :shrug:



leading in all star votes speaks more to the crappy centers in the league today and not overall popularity... everyone knows d12 is the best center in the league, and there is no way to debate it, so of course he will get the most all star votes for center position... there is much more competition for all star votes in every other position...



what does player income have to do with shoe sales??... btw, drose just got a 100 mil. contract and 250 mil. shoe deal... going forward he will be making 35 million per year from just nba and adidas alone...He has also signed with Wilson Sporting Goods, Skullcandy headphones, Powerade, and Force Factor sports drinks.. it's safe to say drose will be making $40 million per going forward...

:speechless:Wow

All that you just wrote can be the same for Dwight,he's about to get a even bigger contract (5yr 120 mil) if he is traded before the deadline,he's about to get a new shoe deal with addidas,he has even more endorsement deals than Drose,D12 has been in movies and everything.Look im not hating on Rose,he's my 2nd favorite player in the NBA,but he is not as global as Dwight,and he is not making more money than Dwight.If he was he would be up there as the richest nba athletes.Just go to Forbes and look at the top 50 richest athletes in sports,and tell me where Dwight and Drose compare to earnings yearly.

justinnum1
03-09-2012, 02:53 PM
the better question is how much would rose's contract have been if he played in NY? my guess is 350+

PhillyFaninLA
03-09-2012, 02:54 PM
magicinsider

If thats true, he will be in brooklyn no matter what
400 million :speechless:

thats the magic beat writer by the way


I never doubted for a second (well I should say don't doubt to be more accurate) that he would be anywhere else.

When the Deron deal happened out of the blue and the Dwight rumors advanced to the next level I never doubted for a second both will be in Brooklyn. You have 2 highly successful self made men that own the Nets so they know what they are doing and how to get things done.

Rockice_8
03-09-2012, 03:00 PM
the better question is how much would rose's contract have been if he played in NY? my guess is 350+

Exactly, the lure/power of NY can't be matched.

D12 fan
03-09-2012, 03:14 PM
D12 see ya in Brooklyn.

sjbirds
03-09-2012, 03:22 PM
not sure if its true but lets say it is... why doesnt he sign for vet min so they can get better players around him... you cant possilbly need more money

THE MTL
03-09-2012, 03:25 PM
a 1/2 billion dollar shoe deal. ABSURD!

H.E.R.
03-09-2012, 03:38 PM
If it really is a $400 million deal, it'll be a very long term contract. Let's be serious, he's not going to get that all at once. I doubt it's that high, but either way, it'll be more than enough for him to forget whatever amount of money a 5th year and the 7.5% increases he would get if he stayed in Orlando.

Raph12
03-09-2012, 03:47 PM
Wow talk about some major paper...

faridk89
03-09-2012, 03:58 PM
Who the hell wants to wear some "Dwight Howard's"?

lol

That's what I'm saying, I just got the Rose 2.5's cause they're nasty... Rose should be making more than Howard :facepalm:

netsgiantsyanks
03-09-2012, 04:51 PM
I bought his shoes too. So what? You just looking to pick fights?

he thought 2.5 was the shoe size.

rurichie
03-09-2012, 05:02 PM
****inig lol'd!

smdh man it's a shoe the most recent shoe make of D-Rose

ramsizzle
03-09-2012, 05:03 PM
Big men dont sell shoes. Dwight does not sell a lot of shoes. Anyone who collects sneakers knows this is bull crap. ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

rurichie
03-09-2012, 05:03 PM
That's what I'm saying, I just got the Rose 2.5's cause they're nasty... Rose should be making more than Howard :facepalm:

there extremely light too and fix nice

ramsizzle
03-09-2012, 05:05 PM
just as an fyi..when mj resigned with nike it was for ten years and 400 million. Dwight is not getting that kind of money

xILLN355
03-09-2012, 05:09 PM
whats the duration? it has to be something like 20+ years

justinnum1
03-09-2012, 05:29 PM
just as an fyi..when mj resigned with nike it was for ten years and 400 million. Dwight is not getting that kind of money

400m million back then is like a billion today...

YungDaSensai
03-09-2012, 05:44 PM
Addidas is more than about shoes,Dwight is way more popular than Drose globally,Dwight is the 2nd biggest NBA star in China behind Kobe,Dwight makes more money in China than in the US.Dwight has more endorsements than Drose,people just like his personality.If im not mistaken he has been the leading allstar vote getter the past 3yrs.

Forbes top NBA 10 highest paid athelets yearly(incuding endorsements)

1.Kobe 53mil a year
2.Lebron 48mil a year
3.Dwight 27.6 mil a year
4.Dwade 26.2 mil a year
5.Carmelo 25.1 mil a year
6.Amare 24.5 mil a year
7.KG 23.8 mil a year
8.VC 21.8 mil a year
9.Duncan 21.2 mil a year
10.CP3 20.9 mil a year

Is this list outdated man?? KG, Vince, and Duncan?? Duncan had some nice kicks though back in the days

ramsizzle
03-09-2012, 05:55 PM
400m million back then is like a billion today...

that contact was signed after the jordan 23 came out. his original shoe contract ended after the 23rd installment of the jordan series.

JayW_1023
03-09-2012, 06:02 PM
I would have liked to see Dwight play in the same era as Hakeem, Ewing, Parish, prime Shaq and Zo.

justinnum1
03-09-2012, 06:21 PM
I would have liked to see Dwight play in the same era as Hakeem, Ewing, Parish, prime Shaq and Zo.

He's prob have to be a PF back then

Raph12
03-09-2012, 06:40 PM
I would have liked to see Dwight play in the same era as Hakeem, Ewing, Parish, prime Shaq and Zo.

Parish and Prime Shaq? So we're just throwing random names into the mix? By the time Shaq hit his prime (~1999/2000) all of the players you just listed were crap... Shaq didn't play any great centers on his way to any of his 4 rings, not any.

FriedTofuz
03-09-2012, 07:28 PM
What are you 11 years old?

You seem to catch on slow, what are you 5 years old?:laugh2: just kidding :laugh2: he was refering to the model not the size.

ManRam
03-09-2012, 07:35 PM
I mean this as no slight to Rose, but if I'm Adidas, Dwight easily is worth way more to me. His marketability, especially if he flees to a big market, is much higher since he's a bit more bubbly, personable, talkative and outspoken. He's more of an entertainer, and we all know Rose hates doing that...unless it's on the court, and that's very commendable.

kozelkid
03-09-2012, 07:44 PM
I mean this as no slight to Rose, but if I'm Adidas, Dwight easily is worth way more to me. His marketability, especially if he flees to a big market, is much higher since he's a bit more bubbly, personable, talkative and outspoken. He's more of an entertainer, and we all know Rose hates doing that...unless it's on the court, and that's very commendable.

Ya but people enjoy the blazing speed and domination of Rose as a perimeter player over Dwight as a post player. The average fan has little attention for great defensive play and post play. Whatever the reason, people like that. Much like Durant, average fans seem more interested in fighting the sort of culture that players like Lebron, Paul,or Melo bring.

ManRam
03-09-2012, 08:01 PM
Ya but people enjoy the blazing speed and domination of Rose as a perimeter player over Dwight as a post player. The average fan has little attention for great defensive play and post play. Whatever the reason, people like that. Much like Durant, average fans seem more interested in fighting the sort of culture that players like Lebron, Paul,or Melo bring.

Perhaps...

I do feel that if Dwight was in a bigger market he'd be a significantly bigger star. I mean, he's more bubbly, more lively, creates more entertaining soundbites and video clips and has a personality way more conducive what these shoe companies want.

I really don't think many non-bias business men would say that Rose's marketable, given equal markets, is higher than Dwight's. Rose cares about one thing and one thing only: playing basketball and winning at basketball. That's why he's so adorned by his fans, and that's why he's infallible. But that's boring. Who the **** knows what Dwight cares about? He's volatile. He's dramatic. He's whiny. He's got some female emotions. He is more outgoing in the media and prone to more cheap marketing ploys. He likes to dance, he likes to joke, he likes to fool around...all of those are marketing gold. He's a much better speaker if we want to get to a more technical comparison. If he's actually going out of his way to sell his brand, he more naturally is able to. :shrug:

justinnum1
03-09-2012, 08:13 PM
dwights personality>>>>>>>>>>rose's personality

and yes, that is a factor in marketability

waveycrockett
03-09-2012, 08:42 PM
I call BS on the $$$$
Really where are your sources?

Punk
03-09-2012, 08:47 PM
This sickens me...To think that there are families living out of their cars. Not hating on Dwight

How the hell is that anyone's problem? Just because a guy can get 400 million or someone is willing to give out that money, doesn't mean it makes them evil to the less fortunate.

I just want to see Dwight and Rose and all of these guys give back and really do it for the goodness for their heart and not for publicity.

Chill_Will_24
03-09-2012, 11:21 PM
Dwight was doing promotional work in Russia last summer and was rumored to have met with Prokhorov.

Im not saying this is true but it also wouldnt surprise me if it is cuz Prokhorov didnt make his fortune by being classy and fair. Im sure there are things going on behind the scenes with this situation.

oak2455
03-09-2012, 11:30 PM
Really where are your sources?

really? one source.... ok good job Kojak:clap:

luke21
03-09-2012, 11:45 PM
I hope D12 has a season ending injury......then there won't be much talk about him until the summer.

Dude is a beast with a little girl toughness......

Bears99
03-09-2012, 11:56 PM
maybe $40m lol

Chill_Will_24
03-10-2012, 12:01 AM
I hope D12 has a season ending injury......then there won't be much talk about him until the summer.

Dude is a beast with a little girl toughness......

thats ****ed up

Raph12
03-10-2012, 12:09 AM
I hope D12 has a season ending injury......then there won't be much talk about him until the summer.

Dude is a beast with a little girl toughness......

And I hope you have a significant injury to your hands (also lasting a few months) so that we don't have to read any of your bs posts anymore... Seriously dude, there's no need for posts like that.

oak2455
03-10-2012, 12:18 AM
And I hope you have a significant injury to your hands (also lasting a few months) so that we don't have to read any of your bs posts anymore... Seriously dude, there's no need for posts like that.

THAT WAS FUNNY!!!!!:clap:

Pistol_Pete
03-10-2012, 12:50 AM
I only see this being posted in forums by forum members. Is there actually a source for this? Or was this a "someone on twitter who know someone inside the Magic said..." type of situation.

And really, I'll believe this when I see it. Derrick Rose's contract was ridiculous and this supposed deal destroys that. I just can't see how Adidas would spend that much money on one guy. Maybe LeBron, if he were still a hero and not a villain, maybe.

jrm2054
03-10-2012, 01:12 AM
That is insane for a shoe deal i never even seen a pair of D12's

faridk89
03-10-2012, 01:25 AM
there extremely light too and fix nice

yeah guy, yet pretty firm.... Rose > Howard all day er day

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 01:50 AM
there extremely light too and fix nice

yeah guy, yet pretty firm.... Rose > Howard all day er day

Do you mean Rose is a better player than Howard? Thats HIGHLY debateable and even if true that means nothing really. Being a better player doesnt mean you will have more endorsement money than the next guy. Howard is way more marketable, recognizable and has a greater personality for a company to push than Rose therefore he will get more money

Ovratd1up
03-10-2012, 03:54 AM
This sickens you?

Don't buy his damn shoes then. ****, I hate when people complain about athletes making money. If you don't like it, don't endorse the produce they're producing by watching their games or buying their products (i.e. jerseys or shoes). Like any business, they provide a product that has an incredibly high demand. They earn their money. That's supply and demand for you.

He wasn't complaining. He just expressed a feeling. Not towards Dwight, as he specified. Why doesn't an individual have the right to feel utterly disgusted with the twisted circumstances that people find themselves in? It's a feeling that we all should share, honestly.

Master Mind
03-10-2012, 04:03 AM
How the hell is that anyone's problem? Just because a guy can get 400 million or someone is willing to give out that money, doesn't mean it makes them evil to the less fortunate.

I just want to see Dwight and Rose and all of these guys give back and really do it for the goodness for their heart and not for publicity.

Never said they were evil dude, it just sucks that's all. I hate to see people in unfortunate circumstances.

Deemerc
03-10-2012, 01:08 PM
Never said they were evil dude, it just sucks that's all. I hate to see people in unfortunate circumstances.

Sorry but people put themselves in unfortunate circumstances, then want everyone else to help them out. Majority of bums could work they just don't, therefore I do not feel sorry for them.

justinnum1
03-10-2012, 01:24 PM
He wasn't complaining. He just expressed a feeling. Not towards Dwight, as he specified. Why doesn't an individual have the right to feel utterly disgusted with the twisted circumstances that people find themselves in? It's a feeling that we all should share, honestly.

compassion is not a word most americans are familiar with

xbrackattackx
03-10-2012, 01:28 PM
This is Russian guys way of over paying to make sure he gets Dwight, guarantee that Russian guy is giving adidas 400 million under the table. Smart guy.

Bigbadmoffo
03-10-2012, 01:33 PM
If you read my previous post I stated I wasn't hating on Dwight, he can make his money. 400 mill is ridiculous, heck 260 mill is ridiculous. Just thinking about the homeless. If that makes me a turd than whatever, I guess I'm the stinkiest. :shrug:

You should be complaining about the owners of these companies throwing money away!

Bigbadmoffo
03-10-2012, 01:34 PM
This is Russian guys way of over paying to make sure he gets Dwight, guarantee that Russian guy is giving adidas 400 million under the table. Smart guy.

I'm thinking if this is true he's pushing some buttons. I love owners like this, I wish my raps had an owner like him or Cuban!

xbrackattackx
03-10-2012, 01:39 PM
I'm thinking if this is true he's pushing some buttons. I love owners like this, I wish my raps had an owner like him or Cuban!

Yea ballsy owners are the best. plus shoe contracts have nothing to do with the team so as long as he just gives adidas the money to do whatever, I think he would be clear of tampering. and Brooklyn starts off with...

Deron
Brooks
Morrow
Hump
Dwight/Lopez

Instead of a depleted roster from trading for him.

swirl54
03-10-2012, 01:49 PM
He isn't getting a deal close to 400 million for shoes he doesn't sell any shoes. I see him getting a 100 mil shoe deal tops.

RaJAxTWa
03-10-2012, 01:58 PM
let me buy some D12s i cnt see people referring them as "dwight howard's"

Donk'E'Dic
03-10-2012, 02:08 PM
let me buy some D12s i cnt see people referring them as "dwight howard's"

I've never heard an actual person call him D12, it's just something I see online

Fnom11
03-10-2012, 03:12 PM
I read somewhere that Lebron made something close to 150mill last year off of his Shoes and Clothing lines so 400 mill doesn't seem too out of reach although Rose>Dhoward in terms of marketing so who knows

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 03:14 PM
He isn't getting a deal close to 400 million for shoes he doesn't sell any shoes. I see him getting a 100 mil shoe deal tops.

Haters in the house,always have a hater in da crowd.lol..

OJ da Juiceman.

Fnom11
03-10-2012, 03:17 PM
Haters in the house,always have a hater in da crowd.lol..

OJ da Juiceman.

It's the truth. As a person who frequents Orlando quite a bit and plays local ball there a lot I can safely say I have never seen anyone wear a pair of D12 shoes.

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 03:22 PM
I read somewhere that Lebron made something close to 150mill last year off of his Shoes and Clothing lines so 400 mill doesn't seem too out of reach although Rose>Dhoward in terms of marketing so who knows

:punish:Go to your room.

Did you just say Drose is more marketable than Dwight,Dwight has more personality than Rose.Have you ever seen Drose when he talks to the media,he talks kinda slow and his answers are very short,nobody wants a guy who is shy.Dwight has already been in movies (Just Wright,Valentines Day),Dwight is the nba's 3rd most marketable player behind Lebron/Kobe.Please don't ever say something that stupid again.


You can come out of your room now.:phew:

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 03:26 PM
It's the truth. As a person who frequents Orlando quite a bit and plays local ball there a lot I can safely say I have never seen anyone wear a pair of D12 shoes.

:facepalm:Please don't ever comment on this thread again.

I play ball at a local chicago gym,and I have never seen a guy were a pair of Drose shoes.:rolleyes:

Fnom11
03-10-2012, 03:28 PM
:punish:Go to your room.

Did you just say Drose is more marketable than Dwight,Dwight has more personality than Rose.Have you ever seen Drose when he talks to the media,he talks kinda slow and his answers are very short,nobody wants a guy who is shy.Dwight has already been in movies (Just Wright,Valentines Day),Dwight is the nba's 3rd most marketable player behind Lebron/Kobe.Please don't ever say something that stupid again.


You can come out of your room now.:phew:

Big men don't have nearly as much marketability as PG/SG/SF and it's a fact. Dwight's certainly not the exception and has little to no appeal to people trying to emulate NBA players game. His personality? His personality has nothing to do with his marketability.

Fnom11
03-10-2012, 03:29 PM
:facepalm:Please don't ever comment on this thread again.

I play ball at a local chicago gym,and I have never seen a guy were a pair of Drose shoes.:rolleyes:

I live in South Florida and the Rose Crazy Lights are one of the most worn shoes around here. They're up their with Lebrons, Hypersizes, Hyperfuses, and Jordans. You're clearly a troll.

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 03:44 PM
Big men don't have nearly as much marketability as PG/SG/SF and it's a fact. Dwight's certainly not the exception and has little to no appeal to people trying to emulate NBA players game. His personality? His personality has nothing to do with his marketability.

Big men don't have as much marketability,do you remember this guy who used to play for your team he goes by the name Shaq.Shaq was a global icon,he had the personality and charisma to market his brand.It's not just about shoe sales it's what else yo can do to sell your brand.Blake Griffin has a lot of marketability as well.You must don't understand the word MARKETABILITY,it's not just about shoe sales.Until Drose host shows like Dwight has did for BET with 106&park,and appear on disney channels for kids,and movies with Hollywood actors,he will not grow his brand.It's more than basketball when it comes to marketability.

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 03:47 PM
I live in South Florida and the Rose Crazy Lights are one of the most worn shoes around here. They're up their with Lebrons, Hypersizes, Hyperfuses, and Jordans. You're clearly a troll.

How am I a troll when this is a thread about Dwight Howard,you are the troll.Quit getting mad it's just a message board.

Fnom11
03-10-2012, 03:50 PM
Big men don't have as much marketability,do you remember this guy who used to play for your team he goes by the name Shaq.Shaq was a global icon,he had the personality and charisma to market his brand.It's not just about shoe sales it's what else yo can do to sell your brand.Blake Griffin has a lot of marketability as well.You must don't understand the word MARKETABILITY,it's not just about shoe sales.Until Drose host shows like Dwight has did for BET with 106&park,and appear on disney channels for kids,and movies with Hollywood actors,he will not grow his brand.It's more than basketball when it comes to marketability.

I was under the impression we were relating marketability towards his shoe deal. I guess the whole point of this thread went right over your head.

Also like to point out Rose's "brand" has already surpassed Dwight's. Rose has millions of diehard fans while Dwight does not.

Fnom11
03-10-2012, 03:52 PM
How am I a troll when this is a thread about Dwight Howard,you are the troll.Quit getting mad it's just a message board.

You're a troll by posting ludicrous statements which are completely false, which apparently means I'm upset by calling you out as such?

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 03:58 PM
I was under the impression we were relating marketability towards his shoe deal. I guess the whole point of this thread went right over your head.

Also like to point out Rose's "brand" has already surpassed Dwight's. Rose has millions of diehard fans while Dwight does not.

How do you know this,did you take a poll worldwide to see who has more fans.Last time I checked Dwight was the leading allstar vote getter the past 3 years.

Fnom11
03-10-2012, 04:05 PM
How do you know this,did you take a poll worldwide to see who has more fans.Last time I checked Dwight was the leading allstar vote getter the past 3 years.

Alright.

faridk89
03-10-2012, 04:09 PM
How do you know this,did you take a poll worldwide to see who has more fans.Last time I checked Dwight was the leading allstar vote getter the past 3 years.

because Rose is a boss, I haven't gone out and gotten a ball shoe on release day since Carter was the **** in Toronto and released the VC 1's... AND Rose released his shoe :p

I can't believe you are actually arguing that Howard might have more fans than Rose :facepalm:

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 04:10 PM
Alright.

Ok.:win:

Mr Costanza
03-10-2012, 05:02 PM
How do you know this,did you take a poll worldwide to see who has more fans.Last time I checked Dwight was the leading allstar vote getter the past 3 years.

I credit that to lack of competition at his position.

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 06:09 PM
I credit that to lack of competition at his position.

Derrick Rose has NONE of Dwight's notoriety to the casual person in the united states who isn't a huge fan of the NBA and he got 250MM. Dwight is going to make more than him for sure especially in a NY market.

Raph12
03-10-2012, 06:16 PM
People forget that Rose plays in Chicago (3rd largest basketball market [New York and Los Angeles takes precedence]) and Dwight plays in Orlando (20th-30th largest market).

Did you see how big Shaq's brand got when he moved to LA from Orlando? Dwight is already a bigger star globally; if he goes to Brooklyn and makes them a legit contender, he easily surpasses Rose in the US as well... Personality is huge when it comes to marketability, Rose tries to sell his brand on the court, Dwight sells his brand on the court, off the court, in interviews, in movies and constantly travels the globe promoting his brand.

If Dwight goes to a bigger market, his brand would blow up and he knows it.

justinnum1
03-10-2012, 06:19 PM
People forget that Rose plays in Chicago (3rd largest basketball market [New York and Los Angeles takes precedence]) and Dwight plays in Orlando (20th-30th largest market).

Did you see how big Shaq's brand got when he moved to LA from Orlando? Dwight is already a bigger star globally; if he goes to Brooklyn and makes them a legit contender, he easily surpasses Rose in the US as well... Personality is huge when it comes to marketability, Rose tries to sell his brand on the court, Dwight sells his brand on the court, off the court, in interviews, in movies and constantly travels the globe promoting his brand.

If Dwight goes to a bigger market, his brand would blow up and he knows it.

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BULLSFAN0810
03-10-2012, 06:35 PM
if he gets the money ADIDAS IS DUMB..NO BIG SELLS SHOES, SO TO GIVE HIM ALL THAT BREAD....DAF

BULLSFAN0810
03-10-2012, 06:41 PM
:facepalm:Please don't ever comment on this thread again.

I play ball at a local chicago gym,and I have never seen a guy were a pair of Drose shoes.:rolleyes:

If you dont see Drose...where do you play? i got 2 pair. and they are for ball...hell all my buddies like either adidas or nike bc imo theyre better grip wise and comfy. I go to alota places and hoop, i see bout 2 pair maybe more at the least... i never seen these shoes over the years...David Robinson Sig Line Flights After they came out over a few series...no one wore shaqs....Kgs,Duncan sig shoe...ONLY BIG SHOE I LIKED WERE THE SHEEDS...,AIR FOCE ONE ,HIGH TOP, ALL BLACK PATENT LEATHER..SLICK...

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 06:41 PM
if he gets the money ADIDAS IS DUMB..NO BIG SELLS SHOES, SO TO GIVE HIM ALL THAT BREAD....DAF

This is the dumbest thing I"VE EVER READ. No big has sold shoes RECENTLY because 99% of bigs suck Dwight is the 1%. KG, Barkley, Duncan and Shaq all had extremely popular shoes in their prime. When Adidas starts pushing Dwight his shoes will sell.

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 06:49 PM
FOR THOSE SAYING BIG MEN CANT SELL SNEAKERS PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF


5 of those most popular sneakers of ALL TIME were from Big Men

Shaq- http://www.nicekicks.com/2011/05/bring-em-reebok-shaqnosis/

Duncan- http://www.kicksonfire.com/2008/12/06/bring-it-back-nike-total-air-foamposite-max-tim-duncan/

KG- http://www.nicekicks.com/nike-air-garnett-iii/

Barkley- http://www.nicekicks.com/tag/charles-barkley/

Shawn Kemp- http://www.nicekicks.com/reebok-kamikaze-ii/

BULLSFAN0810
03-10-2012, 06:52 PM
This is the dumbest thing I"VE EVER READ. No big has sold shoes RECENTLY because 99% of bigs suck Dwight is the 1%. KG, Barkley, Duncan and Shaq all had extremely popular shoes in their prime. When Adidas starts pushing Dwight his shoes will sell.

SHAQ didnt sell..he had to sell at payless.

KG shoe was "OK"

Barkley isnt a center...and by Big i mean over 7 foot or close.

EVERYSHOE I BOUGHT WAS BY A SMALLER PLAYER

JORDANS
A.I
GRANT HILL
PENNY
KOBE.

And im pretty sure thats close to alot of ppls list..ppl arent over 7 foot normally,and kids buy shoes...whod they rather be...A.I or Howard ? Who shoes normally looked better? Smaller players. MJ or Howard?
Grant hill retro throwback style or a Center who shoe isnt made for their feet?

Penny or howard?

Kobes or howards?

Rose or Howards?

Its not saying howard cant play,its how ppl view them selves..am i fast and can be spectacular or am i a big dude who is in the post? sounds dumb but i believe it to be true...then you add on top style of shoe.

BULLSFAN0810
03-10-2012, 06:55 PM
FOR THOSE SAYING BIG MEN CANT SELL SNEAKERS PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF


5 of those most popular sneakers of ALL TIME were from Big Men

Shaq- http://www.nicekicks.com/2011/05/bring-em-reebok-shaqnosis/

Duncan- http://www.kicksonfire.com/2008/12/06/bring-it-back-nike-total-air-foamposite-max-tim-duncan/

KG- http://www.nicekicks.com/nike-air-garnett-iii/

Barkley- http://www.nicekicks.com/tag/charles-barkley/

Shawn Kemp- http://www.nicekicks.com/reebok-kamikaze-ii/


Shaq...couldnt sell really...sold at payless

Duncans foam posite...Basically a Vince Carter Branch of a shoe

Nickle dimes...i had a pair...decent

Barkley...wasnt over 7 foot

Shawn kemp? wtf?

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 06:59 PM
SHAQ didnt sell..he had to sell at payless.

KG shoe was "OK"

Barkley isnt a center...and by Big i mean over 7 foot or close.

EVERYSHOE I BOUGHT WAS BY A SMALLER PLAYER

JORDANS
A.I
GRANT HILL
PENNY
KOBE.

And im pretty sure thats close to alot of ppls list..ppl arent over 7 foot normally,and kids buy shoes...whod they rather be...A.I or Howard ? Who shoes normally looked better? Smaller players. MJ or Howard?
Grant hill retro throwback style or a Center who shoe isnt made for their feet?

Penny or howard?

Kobes or howards?

Rose or Howards?

Its not saying howard cant play,its how ppl view them selves..am i fast and can be spectacular or am i a big dude who is in the post? sounds dumb but i believe it to be true...then you add on top style of shoe.
Your culeless and it's NO SURPISE.

Shaq had to sell at Payless?? I didn't know they sold Reebok at payless!?! His shoes with Reebok where one of the most popular of HIS TIME.

When Shaq went off and split from Reebok he started his own company similar to Starbury for cheap who WHOOPS wasnt a BIG MAN. So their goes that theory. :facepalm:

Howard hasn't signed his new huge deal so why are you even comparing guys who have had a major shoe campaign to a guy who hasn't?? OBVIOULSY when they give the dude 400 MILLION they are going to market the hell out of his shoe like they did with Rose.

I'm sad for you you only where shoes by smaller players. You must not be too up on sneakers then.

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 07:00 PM
Shaq...couldnt sell really...sold at payless

Duncans foam posite...Basically a Vince Carter Branch of a shoe

Nickle dimes...i had a pair...decent

Barkley...wasnt over 7 foot

Shawn kemp? wtf?

Reeboks sold at payless?? Either your under 12 or you don't know much about sneakers. I think both.

elizur
03-10-2012, 07:08 PM
Reeboks sold at payless?? Either your under 12 or you don't know much about sneakers. I think both.

Ahh, the humanity... He doesnt know about sneakers!! how terrible. I mean the dude is wrong, they have a plan in place where they are not making a bad investment. However, why would you feel sad for somebody not knowing about shoes then ask if he is 12 in the same sentence. I believe you sound younger, regardless who I agree with.

justinnum1
03-10-2012, 07:08 PM
Reeboks sold at payless?? Either your under 12 or you don't know much about sneakers. I think both.

:laugh:

D12 fan
03-10-2012, 07:09 PM
Reeboks sold at payless?? Either your under 12 or you don't know much about sneakers. I think both.

:facepalm:Shut up dude.

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 07:17 PM
:facepalm:Shut up dude.

I'm sorry are facts hurting your brain?

BULLSFAN0810
03-10-2012, 07:24 PM
Reeboks sold at payless?? Either your under 12 or you don't know much about sneakers. I think both.

i NEVER HAD A PAIR OR SEEN A PAIR OF SHAQS NOT AT KMART OR PAYLESS AFTER HIS REEBOKS..HIS REBOK ONES SOLD DECENT. Im not saying bigs CANT SELL DECENT...im saying,A PERIMETER PLAYER VS A POST PLAYER WHEN IT COME TO SHOES,THE SMALLER PLAYER SELLS MORE. AND TO GIVE ANY BIG MORE THAN YOU DO A SMALLER MORE SPECTACULAR PLAYER MORE MONEY ISNT SMART. YEAH YOU SELL THE SHOES REGUARDLESS; BUT LETS SAY ....WESTBROOK HAD A PAIR OF NIKES...ID LOOK INTO THEM OVER D12 SHOES.... NOT BC i HATE HOWARD,ITS WE DONT PLAY THE SAME. HIS SHOES ARE MORE AND LIKELY SOME BIG HIGH TOPS..I DONT LIKE BIG HIGH TOPS.

The name Westbrook is more flashier than Howrds...Marketing,buddy.

waveycrockett
03-10-2012, 07:28 PM
i NEVER HAD A PAIR OR SEEN A PAIR OF SHAQS NOT AT KMART OR PAYLESS AFTER HIS REEBOKS..HIS REBOK ONES SOLD DECENT. Im not saying bigs CANT SELL DECENT...im saying,A PERIMETER PLAYER VS A POST PLAYER WHEN IT COME TO SHOES,THE SMALLER PLAYER SELLS MORE. AND TO GIVE ANY BIG MORE THAN YOU DO A SMALLER MORE SPECTACULAR PLAYER MORE MONEY ISNT SMART. YEAH YOU SELL THE SHOES REGUARDLESS; BUT LETS SAY ....WESTBROOK HAD A PAIR OF NIKES...ID LOOK INTO THEM OVER D12 SHOES.... NOT BC i HATE HOWARD,ITS WE DONT PLAY THE SAME. HIS SHOES ARE MORE AND LIKELY SOME BIG HIGH TOPS..I DONT LIKE BIG HIGH TOPS.

The name Westbrook is more flashier than Howrds...Marketing,buddy.

It's illegal for Payless to even sell Reebok's shoes because they dont have a contract to sell those shoes. Shaq had an incredibely popular sneaker 15 years ago but split with Reebok and started his own brand similar to starbury which sold for cheap so poor kids could by them. Thats why you saw them at payless. Also if you think Westbrook has a bigger name than Howard you need to troll harder.

BULLSFAN0810
03-10-2012, 07:37 PM
Reeboks sold at payless?? Either your under 12 or you don't know much about sneakers. I think both.


Man , i use to work for a place that sold shoes,and i STOLE and BOUGHT every pair of shoes from 97-05. Thats how i know those Duncans were a brach of Foamposites made popular before timmy wore those.....and ppl bought them due to i think VC wearing the name,,,Nike tried to push VC name on soo much crap at one time but couldnt turn him into MJ...AND ALL THE SHOES I NAMED A.I TO ROSES...i OWN 2 PAIR OF EACH...STILL! I dont buy too much of the CRAP younger dudes buy except for SB DUNKS, or some Kobes or Drose..i Mainly Buy throwback...those Concords...got 5 pair..still looks new,from like 10 years ago..I get Kobes..i hunt down Huraches,and barkleys. Got all the Kobes from Adidas to Nike..most i got through Adidas and Nike camps..do you feel me? Read in between the lines.

and i never said Westbrook was better than Howard ..i said more flashier..pull up Westbrooks highlight reel,and then Howards..Howrd<Westbrook,but west brook has 1o1 move and dunks for days ..try telling a little dumb kid who THINKS HE KNOWS BALL WESTBROOK ISNT IN HOWARDS CLASS..THEYLL TUNE YOU OUT AND WATCH THE HIGHLIGHTS

H.E.R.
03-10-2012, 07:56 PM
I'm guessing it's a shoe contract and more of a spokesperson deal. They'll connect him more with New York if he's wearing a Brooklyn Nets jersey by plastering his face all over the city like the Nets have started to do with Deron Williams. He'll be available for commercials (featuring NYC of course) and events sponsored by Adidas. I doubt it's a $400 million deal, but I think it will be more than Rose's contract because of Dwight's personality.

BULLSFAN0810
03-10-2012, 08:03 PM
I'm guessing it's a shoe contract and more of a spokesperson deal. They'll connect him more with New York if he's wearing a Brooklyn Nets jersey by plastering his face all over the city like the Nets have started to do with Deron Williams. He'll be available for commercials (featuring NYC of course) and events sponsored by Adidas. I doubt it's a $400 million deal, but I think it will be more than Rose's contract because of Dwight's personality.


NOW..i can buy this..so basically i believe you believe Howard is going to NJ? I can buy it.

chitownbulls
03-11-2012, 12:12 AM
Reeboks sold at payless?? Either your under 12 or you don't know much about sneakers. I think both.

Haha dude your ********.

Mr Costanza
03-11-2012, 12:45 AM
Shawn kemp? wtf?

I loved the kemp kamikazes

Fnom11
03-11-2012, 12:51 AM
I loved the kemp kamikazes

Those Barkleys were on point too.

lakerboy
05-02-2012, 01:49 AM
Bs

mdm692
05-02-2012, 02:12 AM
Hahahahahahhaha this just teaches the new up and coming stars that if you behave like a diva and disrespect your organization/team you will be heavily rewarded. Next thing you know addidas gives mcgee a 600 million shoe deal =/.