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Joshtd1
03-08-2012, 04:06 PM
http://blogs.ajc.com/hawks/2012/03/08/atlanta-hawks-josh-smith-still-wants-a-trade/


Miami–Even as Josh Smith is having a strong season for the Hawks he has let the team know he wants to be traded as the March 15 deadline approaches, according to people with knowledge of Smith’s thinking.

And the reasons for Smith’s dissatisfaction with the team now have to make the Hawks wonder if they will be able to sign him to a contract extension next season.

By the end of last season Smith wanted out of Atlanta because he believed he was singled out for unfair criticism by coaches and media. Those concerns have died down for the most part this season but now Smith believes he needs a fresh start with a franchise where he can better reach his potential on and off the court, according to one of the people with knowledge of Smith’s thinking.

The person said one of Smith’s complaints is that he believes the Hawks didn’t do enough to promote him for selection to the All-Star team, which he thinks contributed to lesser players being voted to the team by Eastern Conference coaches. Smith, an Atlanta native who has played his entire seven-year career with the Hawks, also would like to play for a franchise he believes is more committed to winning a championship.

As the trade deadline approaches, the Hawks have taken calls from teams interested in acquiring Smith—Golden State is among the teams who have inquired. But the Hawks so far have given no indication that they intend to part with Smith, who likely would command a high price in a trade.

Hellcrooner
03-08-2012, 04:08 PM
hinrich+ J Smith for Pau.
Best trade possible for both parts.
Pau+JJ+Horford ( when he is back) is really competitive.

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 04:10 PM
Lopez will be available if the Nets can sign Dwight in the offseason. Then they could move Horford to his more natural position, PF. Win Win for both teams especially since Smith and Dwight are best friends.

LAKobeBryant
03-08-2012, 04:11 PM
hinrich+ J Smith for Pau.
Best trade possible for both parts.
Pau+JJ+Horford ( when he is back) is really competitive.

lakers need offence don't think j smith would make them any better

Iodine
03-08-2012, 04:12 PM
Im not really sure what to make of this, kinda vague. Chad ford has him for Nash as a possibility, because I think he doesn't understand how free agency works

M.Bibby2.0
03-08-2012, 04:13 PM
Tyreke + Hickson + Jason Thompson for Smith and Hinrich

justinnum1
03-08-2012, 04:15 PM
nash and lopez for smith and teague

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7jhvjlg

uprightciti
03-08-2012, 04:15 PM
Tyreke + Hickson + Jason Thompson for Smith and Hinrich

not bad but....johnson is to much like tyreke and hickson is a week replacement for a big post player

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 04:17 PM
Im not really sure what to make of this, kinda vague. Chad ford has him for Nash as a possibility, because I think he doesn't understand how free agency works


:up:

YoungOne
03-08-2012, 04:17 PM
come heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeee

M.Bibby2.0
03-08-2012, 04:17 PM
not bad but....johnson is to much like tyreke and hickson is a week replacement for a big post player

Well JT is definitely better than Hickson. Scrappy offensive rebounders, could move horford to the PF :shrug: I think it works nicely. Tryeke could learn so much from JJ

cbreezy34
03-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Sixers..... Jrue Turner Josh Smith wow

mRc08
03-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Oh josh smith. How i have enjoyed watching this player over the years and wishing the bulls could somehow pick him up. he's been one of my fav's for awhile now. regardless, this is kinda surprising to me. But he claims the reason he wants out is the allstar voting and a team not committed to winning? first off, who gives a ef about the allstar voting? that shouldn't be one of his priorities if he is concerned about a team committed to winning. i think that starts with players on the team committed to winning, not allstar appearances? Also, i think the team is committed to winning. They took on kirks contract to hopefully make them better, signed T-mac, and were even willing to overpay for joe johnson to hopefully stay competitive. I don't see how the hawks haven't done enough to try and put the best players out there? A fresh start would probably be good for smith, but I think he needs to look in the mirror a little bit before boasting how the team doesn't do enough for him. outside of this year, he has never done enough for the team.

sep11ie
03-08-2012, 04:19 PM
Scola for Smith.

reffahead
03-08-2012, 04:20 PM
"according to people with knowledge of Smith’s thinking."

It's probably a ploy to get management to trade some unproductive players.

utl768
03-08-2012, 04:20 PM
no way he gets traded

uprightciti
03-08-2012, 04:22 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7xnhc5z

GiantsSwaGG
03-08-2012, 04:22 PM
Amare, TD, and Jortz for Smith

uprightciti
03-08-2012, 04:23 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=77tqfz6

HATERS

sep11ie
03-08-2012, 04:24 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7zbe8cc

Panthers4life
03-08-2012, 04:25 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7xnhc5z

that would never happen

nickdymez
03-08-2012, 04:25 PM
Luke Walton + Troy Murphy + TPE = Josh Smith

The goods
03-08-2012, 04:26 PM
I agree with him he should've been in the all star game if he were in a bigger market he mightve started....maybe but he would've been there for sure,I want him on the lakers but I want him to play the 3.
If the nets get him for lopez they'll sign dwight and it'll be an atlanta high flying connection with Dwill throwing the alleys I like that,but I'm not sure if they nets will do it.

Pierzynski4Prez
03-08-2012, 04:26 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7zbe8cc

I think that is pretty good, although I'm not sure about how much ATL would need Flynn.

Sadds The Gr8
03-08-2012, 04:27 PM
I'd find this easier to believe if Horford wasn't injured.

Chronz
03-08-2012, 04:28 PM
Smith has been underrated in Atlanta for too long, I would be fed up with not making the All-Star team, playing behind the most overrated player in the league. Id want out too

mRc08
03-08-2012, 04:28 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=77tqfz6

HATERS

There would be just way too many arm sleeves on the knicks if this happened. ;)

Pakman
03-08-2012, 04:28 PM
Luke Walton + Troy Murphy + TPE = Josh SmithLOL I'm a lakers fan an even I kno that's highway robbery

Chronz
03-08-2012, 04:28 PM
Luke Walton + Troy Murphy + TPE = Josh Smith

Not legal

D12 fan
03-08-2012, 04:31 PM
I agree with him he should've been in the all star game if he were in a bigger market he mightve started....maybe but he would've been there for sure,I want him on the lakers but I want him to play the 3.
If the nets get him for lopez they'll sign dwight and it'll be an atlanta high flying connection with Dwill throwing the alleys I like that,but I'm not sure if they nets will do it.

The Nets should be all over this,they would be a lock to sign D12 this summer.

Lopez,Petro,1rd for Jsmoove

Dwill/D12/Jsmoove=:drool:

The goods
03-08-2012, 04:31 PM
Luke Walton + Troy Murphy + TPE = Josh Smith

WHAT!!!! No way we give up murphy he's the goat,replace him with kobe and we gotta deal lol.

Fisher
Glock
Smith
Gasol
Bynum

sep11ie
03-08-2012, 04:32 PM
I think that is pretty good, although I'm not sure about how much ATL would need Flynn.

Flynn would be to make salaries match, plus he's an expiring contract.

nickdymez
03-08-2012, 04:33 PM
what!!!! No way we give up murphy he's the goat,replace him with kobe and we gotta deal lol.

Fisher
glock
smith
gasol
bynum

agreed!

Gram
03-08-2012, 04:36 PM
Come to my Pistons. <3

Sadds The Gr8
03-08-2012, 04:36 PM
Luke Walton + Troy Murphy + TPE = Josh Smith

:laugh:

Shadowplay
03-08-2012, 04:37 PM
nash and lopez for smith and teague

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7jhvjlg


Atlanta would probably also what Pheonix's first round pick this year. I'd still do it if I were Phoenix

Joshtd1
03-08-2012, 04:38 PM
RJ/Blair/Anderson-1st rd pick :)

RCarlson85
03-08-2012, 04:38 PM
Smith is overrated. He plays good defense and is a decent rebounder, but leaves a lot to be desired with his offensive play. He has terrible shot selection. If I were someone defending him, I would let him shoot long jumpers all day because he will just settle for them. If someone could actually get him to stay in the paint and post up or be more selective on his shots, he could be a much better player.

Chronz
03-08-2012, 04:45 PM
Smith is overrated. He plays good defense and is a decent rebounder, but leaves a lot to be desired with his offensive play. He has terrible shot selection. If I were someone defending him, I would let him shoot long jumpers all day because he will just settle for them. If someone could actually get him to stay in the paint and post up or be more selective on his shots, he could be a much better player.

He has flaws, but how can he be overrated when hes not making All-Star teams and his teammate Joe Johnson is?

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 04:47 PM
I agree with him he should've been in the all star game if he were in a bigger market he mightve started....maybe but he would've been there for sure,I want him on the lakers but I want him to play the 3.
If the nets get him for lopez they'll sign dwight and it'll be an atlanta high flying connection with Dwill throwing the alleys I like that,but I'm not sure if they nets will do it.

I agree that it would be nice for the Nets but the only way I can see it happening is for a third team to get involved like LAL who is looking for a PG.

Nets get Smith

ATL gets Lopez, Petro, the Hou 1st, and part of the Laker TPE.

LAL gets Farmar back for part of the TPE

That would leave the Nets enough space to sign Dwight and D-Will to about $15.5-16 mil dollar contracts. It's a little risky for them to make the deal now. It would be much better if they could S&T Lopez in the offseason for him since they're not sure if D-Will and Dwight would take the slight pay cut.

Hustlenomics
03-08-2012, 04:49 PM
come play with your friend Rajon

BullsBearsSox11
03-08-2012, 04:49 PM
Boozer for Smith LOL

I'd would love to do this!!!

b@llhog24
03-08-2012, 04:51 PM
Lopez will be available if the Nets can sign Dwight in the offseason. Then they could move Horford to his more natural position, PF. Win Win for both teams especially since Smith and Dwight are best friends.

J-Smoove and Dwight on defense :drool:

justinnum1
03-08-2012, 04:51 PM
people need to learn to save the trade first then copy that link, dont just paste the trade machine url....

SluggeR
03-08-2012, 04:52 PM
Amare, TD, and Jortz for Smith

Replace Jorts with Walker or Fields and the Knicks take on Marvin Williams contract and the two sides might sit at the table. STAT would give the ATL another go-to-guy offensively and Smoove would be a player that can impact a game for the Knicks in more ways than just scoring.

RCarlson85
03-08-2012, 04:59 PM
He has flaws, but how can he be overrated when hes not making All-Star teams and his teammate Joe Johnson is?

Joe Johnson is better than than Smith in my opinion. I do think they are both somewhat overrated though. The best player on that team is Horford and since he was injured no one really deserved to make the all-star team from Hawks I don't think.

Sportfan
03-08-2012, 05:00 PM
Hopefully he demanded a trade to a couple certain teams. Logic says Boston will be one :nod:
Ray Bass and 1st for Smoove and Marvin's

mamba24
03-08-2012, 05:01 PM
hinrich+ J Smith for Pau.
Best trade possible for both parts.
Pau+JJ+Horford ( when he is back) is really competitive.

I totally agree. Lakers better jump on this

Gritz
03-08-2012, 05:01 PM
Call up the homies its about to go down

Gritz
03-08-2012, 05:02 PM
I totally agree. Lakers better jump on this

Hinrich is whack

CubZwin38
03-08-2012, 05:03 PM
Can you say blockbuster?!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88fn6h5

oak2455
03-08-2012, 05:03 PM
Call up the homies its about to go down

That's funny:clap:

mamba24
03-08-2012, 05:05 PM
Hinrich is whack

Smith isnt

FriedTofuz
03-08-2012, 05:08 PM
smith definatly got subbed. 17 and 10 on a winning team and he couldnt make it to the all star team. He isnt being acknowledged well enough and wants a fresh start. I would do that trade hellcronnerwas suggesting earlir
Gasol for Smith+ Hinrich

D12 fan
03-08-2012, 05:12 PM
Can you say blockbuster?!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88fn6h5

:punish:Go to your room.

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 05:13 PM
Can you say blockbuster?!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88fn6h5

ORL gives up their two best players for Smith and crap. :down:

CubZwin38
03-08-2012, 05:16 PM
ORL gives up their two best players for Smith and crap. :down:

Hey that's cool. Have fun watching Howard walk away for nothing.

Gritz
03-08-2012, 05:18 PM
:punish:Go to your room.

lmao

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 05:21 PM
Hey that's cool. Have fun watching Howard walk away for nothing.


Nice try but I hope he walks away for nothing, that's when I :dance2:

Durant is hype
03-08-2012, 05:24 PM
Joe Johnson is better than than Smith in my opinion. I do think they are both somewhat overrated though. The best player on that team is Horford and since he was injured no one really deserved to make the all-star team from Hawks I don't think.

So lets give the all star nod to Jerry Stackhouse right? C'mon I know people only mention his flaws BEFORE his brilliance and let's not act like he DOESN'T ANCHOR a top 10 Defense,rebound,score,assist,defend & his shot selection is just as bad as some of the other stars. His impact is far beyond scoring.

shep33
03-08-2012, 05:29 PM
I wouldn't trade Pau for Smith. But that's just me.

FriedTofuz
03-08-2012, 05:30 PM
Can you say blockbuster?!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88fn6h5

As much as I would like that trade, The hawks wouldnt need us to get it done. They could just trade Hinrich and smith for howard themselves instead of us lakers leeching off and getting howard

see atlanta doesnt need us
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=44qxx9v
They can get howard on their own

kingsdelez24
03-08-2012, 05:31 PM
Evans and a 2nd round pick for him and tmac

kingsdelez24
03-08-2012, 05:32 PM
Tyreke + Hickson + Jason Thompson for Smith and Hinrich

Nevermind, this sounds better

FriedTofuz
03-08-2012, 05:35 PM
I wouldn't trade Pau for Smith. But that's just me.

this trade would actuall really benefit both teams. Hellcrooner came up with pau for hinrich and smith.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=423gzfw

That would help both teams because then the hawks could play horford at the PF spot and move pau to the 5 if they wanted to. I think a more athletic PF who plays better defense and is versatile like smith can be quite serviceful for the lakers. Also, Hinrichs veteran play and playoff exeperience can be very good for the lakers. And lets face it , any pg in the league is better than fisher. Ill take Hinrich!

5ass
03-08-2012, 05:35 PM
Can you say blockbuster?!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88fn6h5

thats a horrible trade, anderson is putting up 19-9 per 36 and smith is putting up 17-10 (not saying anderson is better, but anderson is no throw in). Then u have howard for zaza :facepalm:
Thats one of the worst trades i've seen on PSD.

MELO 15
03-08-2012, 05:36 PM
Amare for j smooth and hinrich

Lin
Shumpert
Melo
J smooth
Chandler

Can we say Defense

Sportfan
03-08-2012, 05:43 PM
Amare for j smooth and hinrich

Lin
Shumpert
Melo
J smooth
Chandler

Can we say Defense
Why? You have Melo and Lin starting...

MELO 15
03-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Why? You have Melo and Lin starting...

What?????????????????

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 05:46 PM
Amare for j smooth and hinrich

Lin
Shumpert
Melo
J smooth
Chandler

Can we say Defense


:puke:

People need to remember there are two sides to a trade.

PhillyFaninLA
03-08-2012, 05:47 PM
What do people think about Iguadola for Smith straight up, assuming Smith will sign an extension. It gives the Sixers what they need and gives the Hawks a versatile player. Money works just checked on trade machine.

MELO 15
03-08-2012, 05:48 PM
:puke:

People need to remember there are two sides to a trade.

Exactly, both teams would benefit

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 05:49 PM
What do people think about Iguadola for Smith straight up, assuming Smith will sign an extension. It gives the Sixers what they need and gives the Hawks a versatile player. Money works just checked on trade machine.

Not terrible value wise but I don't think ATL needs Iggy unless they can move Williams first. I think they'd want to either get a center so they can move Horford to the 4 or get a high pick and salary relief.

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Exactly, both teams would benefit

Please explain

He115ing
03-08-2012, 05:53 PM
Smith for STAT

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 05:57 PM
Smith for STAT

Why would ATL do that? I've seen it posted quite a few times now and have yet to hear a logical reason why they'd take that.

MELO 15
03-08-2012, 05:59 PM
I believe that amare needs a change in scenary, and I believe that with the personel that the hawks have he can be that player he was last year, and josh doesnt need the ball in his hands to be effective plus he brings something that amare doesnt, defense

ThunderousDemon
03-08-2012, 05:59 PM
Fisher,luke, and Mike Brown for Kirk Hinrich ans smith. :pray:

YoungOne
03-08-2012, 06:01 PM
then atlanta would have 2 horrible contracts..

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 06:05 PM
I call BS on Smith wanting a trade. Rumors always trying to dump him off because we have Horford. Dump, amnesty, Joe's a5s before trading off Smith.

ThunderousDemon
03-08-2012, 06:05 PM
then atlanta would have 2 horrible contracts..

Fine, they can have Troy Murphy too

rythym
03-08-2012, 06:06 PM
If J-Smoov gets moved there will be one less poster here on PSD. I honestly believe this is more Josh pleading for some sort of help/commitment from the Hawks brass.

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 06:06 PM
I believe that amare needs a change in scenary, and I believe that with the personel that the hawks have he can be that player he was last year, and josh doesnt need the ball in his hands to be effective plus he brings something that amare doesnt, defense

OK now lets look at it from the Hawks perspective. Amare is having a down year, has a longer bigger contract, has a history of knee problems, and still doesn't help move Horford to the PF.

So basically they are getting the lesser player, with the injury history on a bigger longer contract, who is showing signs of slowing down, and doesn't fill their greatest need the center position.

A change of scenery isn't a chance the Hawks are going to take. Amare is on the verge of being an immovable contract if he continues playing this bad.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 06:08 PM
Smith is overrated. He plays good defense and is a decent rebounder, but leaves a lot to be desired with his offensive play. He has terrible shot selection. If I were someone defending him, I would let him shoot long jumpers all day because he will just settle for them. If someone could actually get him to stay in the paint and post up or be more selective on his shots, he could be a much better player.

How is he overrated when he alone almost beat Lebron, Wade, Bosh, the refs, and the rest of the NBA yesterday (he beat Durant and Westbrook this past weekend)? Never has been an all-star, yet Joe and Horford has. He is underrated.

KmB728
03-08-2012, 06:08 PM
:)

Rockice_8
03-08-2012, 06:10 PM
If J-Smoov gets moved there will be one less poster here on PSD. I honestly believe this is more Josh pleading for some sort of help/commitment from the Hawks brass.

He's just putting the wheels in motion to ask for a trade to Brooklyn to pair up with his boy Dwight.

Lopez for Smith in the offseason works perfect for both teams.

onlythisfar41
03-08-2012, 06:12 PM
At this point id give up Amare for him if the Hawks would take him.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 06:12 PM
How about the Hawks management grow a pair and trade for Howard. Howard and Smith in ATL. I can't see Josh Smith and his Hawks tattoo in another team's jersey.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 06:15 PM
Smith for Rondo. I would trade him for Lamarcus Aldridge too (I would trade Horford as well).

rythym
03-08-2012, 06:16 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/fba/playerrater?

I enjoy comparing like this. Especially when random trades (especially unbalanced) are being thrown around.

rythym
03-08-2012, 06:18 PM
I like Hollinger's system too. Just can't seem to locate it. Every year Smith outperforms Horford and Johnson.

KmB728
03-08-2012, 06:27 PM
I only want Smith if the C's keep Rondo.... You can have anyone else

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 06:30 PM
Our GM's contract is up after this season. THERE IS NO WAY he trades Smith.

This rumor is so BS. Joe will be gone before Smith unless we get equal value for Smith and Gortat, Amare, etc isn't that.

RCarlson85
03-08-2012, 06:33 PM
So lets give the all star nod to Jerry Stackhouse right? C'mon I know people only mention his flaws BEFORE his brilliance and let's not act like he DOESN'T ANCHOR a top 10 Defense,rebound,score,assist,defend & his shot selection is just as bad as some of the other stars. His impact is far beyond scoring.

No, not every team sends a player to the all-star game. I don't think anyone on Atlanta deserved to go. Sure he does do a lot for the team, but after how ever many years it's been with this core of players always finishing in the middle of the pack in the East and getting nowhere in the playoffs you have to start analyzing things. Him jacking up questionable shots far too often hurts them on offense. He needs to stay within what he can do and not try to be some great shooter.

Chronz
03-08-2012, 06:34 PM
Smith for STAT

Have you beaten Blood Money?

akesh99
03-08-2012, 06:38 PM
Lakers need to make a move- Smith, Hinrich, Marvin for Pau, Walton and Barnes.

JC_
03-08-2012, 06:39 PM
Injuries are really ****ing the Hawks in the anus this year

Getting UGGLA
03-08-2012, 06:40 PM
The Magic and Hawks should trade entire teams. More pi**ing and moaning than you can shake a stick at.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 06:42 PM
Smith and Howard in ATL with a new ownership and all the problems would just go away.

310Casper
03-08-2012, 06:43 PM
We finally get some spicy news/trade deadline potential action. I was tired of the usual daily "dwight says he wont play with lakers" and "Rondo might possibly be traded" stories.

About time...i was starting to get worried there. Let the trade deadline drama begin!! :D

D12 fan
03-08-2012, 06:47 PM
He's just putting the wheels in motion to ask for a trade to Brooklyn to pair up with his boy Dwight.

Lopez for Smith in the offseason works perfect for both teams.

:nod:

SeoulBeatz
03-08-2012, 06:49 PM
Thad Young and Elton for J Smoove and filler.

sep11ie
03-08-2012, 06:50 PM
Tellin y'all JSmoov to Houston before or at the deadline.

Ebbs
03-08-2012, 06:50 PM
Lol selfish prick. They didn't promote you enough for the all star game lolz. . .

Smoove + Hinrich for Bradley + KG

kobebabe
03-08-2012, 06:55 PM
Luke Walton + Troy Murphy + TPE = Josh Smith

This is not ethical...

LongWayFromHome
03-08-2012, 06:56 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7pgfhx2

Celticsfan2007
03-08-2012, 06:56 PM
Tellin y'all JSmoov to Houston before or at the deadline.

:bla:

YoungOne
03-08-2012, 06:56 PM
Lol selfish prick. They didn't promote you enough for the all star game lolz. . .

Smoove + Hinrich for Bradley + KG

in a heartbeat!

DaVille
03-08-2012, 07:00 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7pgfhx2


you crazy. I know Joe is an allstar, but that contract has to be worst contract in NBA contract history. What were Hawks thinking?

LongWayFromHome
03-08-2012, 07:02 PM
you crazy. I know Joe is an allstar, but that contract has to be worst contract in NBA contract history. What were Hawks thinking?

I know but over the cap is over the cap right? You guys probably aren't attracting any free agents. WIth this trade you have a very similar makeup to when you were going to the finals (+a way better Rondo).

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:03 PM
Smith will not be traded, unless someone wants Joe too. Rebuilding would have to include him, and I don't see an expiring GM and coach trading the best players they have for salary dumps (while keeping Joe) unless it's a rebuild.

thedfactor
03-08-2012, 07:05 PM
Hard to move Gasol's contract, but I think Gasol for Smith and Hinrich is good for both teams.

shep33
03-08-2012, 07:07 PM
Gasol would give the Hawks a center. Matching Gasol with Horford (hope he gets back by the playoffs), would be a really nice front line. I bet Pau averages like 20 and 11 with the Hawks.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:10 PM
Hard to move Gasol's contract, but I think Gasol for Smith and Hinrich is good for both teams.

A guy in his prime for a guy over his prime that plays the same position. Add in a expiring contract that will become the Lakers best PG, and that is a fair deal for the Hawks? I know this is PSD and everyone is thinking about 1 side of trades but come on.

If we trade Smith, it's rebuilding time. Now if someone can't think of a trade for Joe, then Smith isn't getting traded. Why would a GM, who is wanting a new contract trade Josh "just to trade him"? Come on internet, let's think about this. No Amare, no Gasol (Lakers don't even want him). No Gortat. Celtics seem like a good partner, but thats if they want Joe too (giving the Hawks KG and Allen's expiring contracts).

LongWayFromHome
03-08-2012, 07:14 PM
A guy in his prime for a guy over his prime that plays the same position. Add in a expiring contract that will become the Lakers best PG, and that is a fair deal for the Hawks? I know this is PSD and everyone is thinking about 1 side of trades but come on.

If we trade Smith, it's rebuilding time. Now if someone can't think of a trade for Joe, then Smith isn't getting traded. Why would a GM, who is wanting a new contract trade Josh "just to trade him"? Come on internet, let's think about this. No Amare, no Gasol (Lakers don't even want him). No Gortat. Celtics seem like a good partner, but thats if they want Joe too (giving the Hawks KG and Allen's expiring contracts).

Right would you as a hawks fan like this? Would leave the Hawks with about 24 mil on payroll next season

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7pgfhx2

D12 fan
03-08-2012, 07:17 PM
A guy in his prime for a guy over his prime that plays the same position. Add in a expiring contract that will become the Lakers best PG, and that is a fair deal for the Hawks? I know this is PSD and everyone is thinking about 1 side of trades but come on.

If we trade Smith, it's rebuilding time. Now if someone can't think of a trade for Joe, then Smith isn't getting traded. Why would a GM, who is wanting a new contract trade Josh "just to trade him"? Come on internet, let's think about this. No Amare, no Gasol (Lakers don't even want him). No Gortat. Celtics seem like a good partner, but thats if they want Joe too (giving the Hawks KG and Allen's expiring contracts).

The only team desperate enough to take on Johnson's contract is Orlando,but they have nothing to offer.

D12/Joe/Jsmoove would do damage in the playoffs.

MagicBucsSox
03-08-2012, 07:18 PM
Smith will not be traded, unless someone wants Joe too. Rebuilding would have to include him, and I don't see an expiring GM and coach trading the best players they have for salary dumps (while keeping Joe) unless it's a rebuild.

Orlando would. That bad contract is up their ally. But Dwight,Jj & JS would be filthy.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:18 PM
Right would you as a hawks fan like this? Would leave the Hawks with about 24 mil on payroll next season

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=7pgfhx2

I would be up for any trade that gives up Joe and Josh for nothing but expirings, if they add in a 2012 1st rounder (wouldn't be much to them anyways seeing they would have a core of Rondo, Joe, Pierce, and Smith).

All I know is the Hawks' GM wouldn't trade Smith for a salary dump or a move that nets us what we had with Smith. His contract is up and that wouldn't look good for him to re-sign as our GM. Rebuilding is what would be right.

shep33
03-08-2012, 07:21 PM
A guy in his prime for a guy over his prime that plays the same position. Add in a expiring contract that will become the Lakers best PG, and that is a fair deal for the Hawks? I know this is PSD and everyone is thinking about 1 side of trades but come on.

If we trade Smith, it's rebuilding time. Now if someone can't think of a trade for Joe, then Smith isn't getting traded. Why would a GM, who is wanting a new contract trade Josh "just to trade him"? Come on internet, let's think about this. No Amare, no Gasol (Lakers don't even want him). No Gortat. Celtics seem like a good partner, but thats if they want Joe too (giving the Hawks KG and Allen's expiring contracts).

The problem is when you have Joe Johnson's contract, you can't rebuild.

Even if Josh get's traded the Hawks have 40 mill per season spread out on 3 players (Joe, Al, and Marvin Williams), that's assuming you've traded Smith for expirings.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:21 PM
Orlando would. That bad contract is up their ally. But Dwight,Jj & JS would be filthy.

That would screw the Hawks more than giving Smith away for nothing.:D

Hawks help the Magic keep Dwight and smash us every year while we re-build would suck.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:23 PM
The problem is when you have Joe Johnson's contract, you can't rebuild.

Even if Josh get's traded the Hawks have 40 mill per season spread out on 3 players (Joe, Al, and Marvin Williams).

We can still amnesty him but Joe is still a good player. There are teams desperate. We as fans see Joe's money and freak out. The NBA is a weird place.

Gators123
03-08-2012, 07:26 PM
He would be an awesome fit next to Monroe. Its too bad the Pistons don't have anything to trade for him.

MagicBucsSox
03-08-2012, 07:39 PM
That would screw the Hawks more than giving Smith away for nothing.:D

Hawks help the Magic keep Dwight and smash us every year while we re-build would suck.

I agree with what your saying but Horford+Jj was confirmed offer from atl to Orl. I'm sure atl would get Ryan Anderson & J redick back in the deal. It's hard to rebuild with a crap Joe contract, only one GM is dumb enough to take it on lol "ours"

Amnesty means u still gotta pay it

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:41 PM
I agree with what your saying but Horford+Jj was confirmed offer from atl to Orl. I'm sure atl would get Ryan Anderson & J redick back in the deal. It's hard to rebuild with a crap Joe contract, only one GM is dumb enough to take it on lol "ours"

That was if the Hawks got Howard. The Horford/Smith and Joe for Howard was the rumor, not Horford and Joe for expirings.

shep33
03-08-2012, 07:42 PM
We can still amnesty him but Joe is still a good player. There are teams desperate. We as fans see Joe's money and freak out. The NBA is a weird place.

I agree, Joe can still play, he gets knocked because of his contract, but he's still an excellent 2 guard.

If they do trade Josh, like you said, try desperately to have a team take on Joe too. That would be the ultimate win if your rebuilding.

reffahead
03-08-2012, 07:45 PM
Thinking like a Vulcan....

Theoretically, we could amnesty Joe and have 16-17 million to offer Dwight. Draft hits could hinder it down around 15 million.

You could have a core of Teague, Dwight, Josh, and Horford. Also have both MLE and LLE exceptions and the 15-20th draft pick and 2 second round draft picks in this draft. You could also make Al Horford available for a couple of strong pieces.

The only problem is eating Joes contract which with the worst ownership in the league is almost impossible of happening.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:46 PM
I agree, Joe can still play, he gets knocked because of his contract, but he's still an excellent 2 guard.

If they do trade Josh, like you said, try desperately to have a team take on Joe too. That would be the ultimate win if your rebuilding.

+1. Teague, Horford, our 1st and maybe a 1st in a Josh/Joe for expirings trade would be a good rebuild.

Hopefully Michael Kidd-Gilchrist comes out this year, I would trade both our picks for him. Teague/Gilchrist/Horford would be awesome.

reffahead
03-08-2012, 07:49 PM
If the cap rises to 60-61 million opposed to the current 58, Atlanta could offer upwards of 20 million to offer Dwight with of course an amnesty to Mr. Albatross.

*Silver&Black*
03-08-2012, 07:51 PM
If the cap rises to 60-61 million opposed to the current 58, Atlanta could offer upwards of 20 million to offer Dwight with of course an amnesty to Mr. Albatross.

ESPN never heard of a team in Atlanta. Dwight wants to go to where ESPN wants Dwight to go.

RaJAxTWa
03-08-2012, 08:21 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8x6xfh4

makes sense for both teams especially since okur contract is expiring

spreadeagle
03-08-2012, 08:42 PM
"player from my favorite team that probably is not as good as Smith" for Smith

justinnum1
03-08-2012, 08:51 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8x6xfh4

makes sense for both teams especially since okur contract is expiring

i like

RaJAxTWa
03-08-2012, 09:02 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8x6xfh4

makes sense for both teams especially since okur contract is expiring

if needed be we can add houstons first rounder but that should be enough to do it bring in smith to brooklyn!!

DWILL
MARSHON BROOKS
JOSH SMITH
KRIS HUMPHRIES
DWIGHT HOWARD

harrison barnes, jordan farmer, and morrow off the bench!!! DAMN

lkingratedr
03-08-2012, 09:04 PM
Josh smith to knicks for amare stoudemire and toney Douglas

Metsboi69
03-08-2012, 09:06 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8x6xfh4

makes sense for both teams especially since okur contract is expiring

Why does Atlanta want an injured Brook Lopez, and I guess this means they'd play Horford at the 4?

Crackadalic
03-08-2012, 09:06 PM
I would trade J-smoove for high lottery picks and young players. Then amnesty Joe johnson

Start building around Al horford

RaJAxTWa
03-08-2012, 09:11 PM
Why does Atlanta want an injured Brook Lopez, and I guess this means they'd play Horford at the 4?

if they want to rebuild then teague, hortford, and lopez isnt a bad start? ALL they would need to start competing would be a small foward which they can draft one or sign in free agency(not sure whose avaible at sf)

dnewguy
03-08-2012, 09:21 PM
Dude lives in Atlanta, his family is in Atlanta...grew up in Atlanta. This is a b.s story. Close tread pls.

bbcmillionaire
03-08-2012, 09:38 PM
Josh smith for boozer
Lol man smith with the bulls defense

corky831
03-08-2012, 09:57 PM
come join ya boy rondo in boston....then boston can sign howard in FA (pipe dream of course)

rondo
pietrus
pierce
smith
howard

LA_Raiders
03-08-2012, 11:40 PM
Josh & Horford for Bynum, 2 1st picks and TPE

29$JerZ
03-08-2012, 11:55 PM
Josh Smith and Marvin Williams for Amar'e Stoudemire and Mike Bibby
:sigh:
I wish

29$JerZ
03-08-2012, 11:57 PM
Josh & Horford for Bynum, 2 1st picks and TPE

A TPE can't be used in a deal with other players from the same team
It's the TPE or nothing

hawks4
03-09-2012, 12:37 AM
SHOCKED that there aren't any Heat fans in this thread. Or did I overlook?

LongWayFromHome
03-09-2012, 12:39 AM
A TPE can't be used in a deal with other players from the same team
It's the TPE or nothing

This is not correct. But the trade he mentioned wouldn't work because the TPE has to be the same size or bigger than the player's salary, it can't be a fraction of a player's salary.

hawks4
03-09-2012, 12:40 AM
Like some of you have said, this rumor is BS. Here's what stuck out the most in the article.....

“[Teammates] know that I have good intentions, no matter how it’s delivered. I am saying stuff because I want to win games. It’s not nothing personal or to try to hurt or bash any one of my teammates or anyone else.”

Good enough for me. I think a deal will be done before March 15th, but not involving Josh. There's no way he really wants to leave. He just wants a better situation in Atlanta. So does every single Hawks fan. Hopefully he can knock some sense in to ASG.

*Silver&Black*
03-09-2012, 01:00 AM
Dude lives in Atlanta, his family is in Atlanta...grew up in Atlanta. This is a b.s story. Close tread pls.

Even has the Hawks logo on his arm.

Deemerc
03-09-2012, 01:02 AM
Why does Atlanta want an injured Brook Lopez, and I guess this means they'd play Horford at the 4?

and also an injured okur lol. but if then nets can pull that one off id love it

Deemerc
03-09-2012, 01:04 AM
if needed be we can add houstons first rounder but that should be enough to do it bring in smith to brooklyn!!

DWILL
MARSHON BROOKS
JOSH SMITH
KRIS HUMPHRIES
DWIGHT HOWARD

harrison barnes, jordan farmer, and morrow off the bench!!! DAMN

damn that would be unbelievable

Young2Kinsler
03-09-2012, 01:04 AM
This thread is awesome!

Someone from My Team for Smith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee

*Silver&Black*
03-09-2012, 01:08 AM
I thought Hawks players are overrated? Then a BS rumor comes out, "I want him on my team!".


Also I would like to know who "overrates" the Hawks' players? Is it ESPN who talks all-Hawks all the time? Is it the storm of Hawks fans on PSD? Is it the people who always puts them out of the playoffs every year, even though they are one of only 3 teams to have made the 2nd round of the playoffs 3 straight years? Interesting.

Let me ask some questions. If Bynum was never a Laker but a Hawk instead, would he still be considered the 2nd best (and to some homers the best) center in the NBA, or just an overrated bum who is always hurt? How about Mr. Lin?

John Walls Era
03-09-2012, 01:26 AM
SHOCKED that there aren't any Heat fans in this thread. Or did I overlook?

Why would the Heat want him? Doesn't add much to them.

John Walls Era
03-09-2012, 01:28 AM
I thought Hawks players are overrated? Then a BS rumor comes out, "I want him on my team!".


Also I would like to know who "overrates" the Hawks' players? Is it ESPN who talks all-Hawks all the time? Is it the storm of Hawks fans on PSD? Is it the people who always puts them out of the playoffs every year, even though they are one of only 3 teams to have made the 2nd round of the playoffs 3 straight years? Interesting.

Let me ask some questions. If Bynum was never a Laker but a Hawk instead, would he still be considered the 2nd best (and to some homers the best) center in the NBA, or just an overrated bum who is always hurt? How about Mr. Lin?

WTF since when did anyone say Hawks players are overrated. Maybe Joe Johnson because of his contract.

Smith being 26 is going to make almost every team want him.

aussie
03-09-2012, 01:42 AM
Kaman/Jack for Jsmoove

then move hinrich somewhere

Pushes Horford to PF and Kaman to C

Teague/JJ
JJ
Marvin
Horford/Johnson
Kaman/Zaza

hawks4
03-09-2012, 01:45 AM
Why would the Heat want him? Doesn't add much to them.

Because anytime there is a trade rumor with a good player Heat fans jump all over it. Besides, I was just being sarcastic.

biglows27
03-09-2012, 02:12 AM
3 way deal ...
Boston .. e bledsoe j smith j teague r foye and a Lac draft pick
Atl ... R rondo b bass r gomes t thompkins
Lac... R Allen t mcgrady k dooling

Lol ....

Wolfman01
03-09-2012, 02:17 AM
I would understand why Josh Smith wants out of ATL. The guy wants a fresh start on a different team. After dealing with losing season for numbers of year in ATL and now winning a lot but not good enough to win in the playoffs.

kjdills13
03-09-2012, 02:26 AM
Suns- Tmach, Smith

Hawks- dudley,Lopez, Morris, suns first round pick


Hawks can play Lopez at center, get a young PF in morris, a GREAT 6th man in dudley, then a decent first round pick.

hawks4
03-09-2012, 02:28 AM
Suns- Tmach, Smith

Hawks- dudley,Lopez, Morris, suns first round pick


Hawks can play Lopez at center, get a young PF in morris, a GREAT 6th man in dudley, then a decent first round pick.

Highway robbery for the Suns

kjdills13
03-09-2012, 02:31 AM
Highway robbery for the Suns

think so? I mean Morris is a VERY good young PF , Dudley is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the NBA and just a do everything guy, Lopez is a solid big who next to horford( when returns) would make the hawks big. Then the suns first round pick that COULD be top 10,

kjdills13
03-09-2012, 02:33 AM
suns- Smith, T-mac

Mavs- Lopez, Morris

Hawks- Odom, Duds, suns 1st

What about this? I think this is probably a more fair trade.

hawks4
03-09-2012, 02:35 AM
think so? I mean Morris is a VERY good young PF , Dudley is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the NBA and just a do everything guy, Lopez is a solid big who next to horford( when returns) would make the hawks big. Then the suns first round pick that COULD be top 10,

Yeah, but I'm one of the Hawks fans that doesn't want to trade Josh unless it is for a deal that will make us better immediately. The above deal could work out eventually, but for me I would need an offer that could still keep us in the playoff race.

Method28
03-09-2012, 02:47 AM
To the clips for bledsoe? Lol

BIG-D
03-09-2012, 02:52 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6nxq2px

hawks4
03-09-2012, 12:51 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6nxq2px

:facepalm:

Giraffes Rule
03-09-2012, 01:03 PM
It's pretty much impossible for the Spurs to get him, but damn he'd be perfect next to Tim Duncan.

C-Style
03-09-2012, 03:20 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6nxq2px

is this a joke?

Gators123
03-09-2012, 03:23 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6nxq2px

I like it man. Great deal for both teams.

Rockice_8
03-09-2012, 03:33 PM
I like it man. Great deal for both teams.

It's there like a green font for sarcasm cause you must be kidding.

Mr.ATLHawks
03-09-2012, 03:59 PM
No, not every team sends a player to the all-star game. I don't think anyone on Atlanta deserved to go. Sure he does do a lot for the team, but after how ever many years it's been with this core of players always finishing in the middle of the pack in the East and getting nowhere in the playoffs you have to start analyzing things. Him jacking up questionable shots far too often hurts them on offense. He needs to stay within what he can do and not try to be some great shooter.

So did Chris Bosh deserve to be an All Star? How about Carmelo Anthony...? Its one thing to say Joe Johnson shouldnt have gotten the nod, but this year Josh Smith deserved it...what the !@#$ does the core have to do with making the All-Star team? Josh is right...they overpaid Joe Johnson and should have just let him walk...clearly they can compete without him. Horford better then Josh...IDK about that..Horford has a better 10-15 jump shot but thats about it. Smith is a better defender, rebounder, passer, hustler...etc. Hawks should have gotten a center years ago but are fiddly farting around...they also need a PG b/c Jeff Teague is not the answer.

Hopefully, Josh wont be traded and hasnt asked to be traded because I think he is the heart and soul of this team. I'd rather see ANYONE else go but Josh. Joe Johnson needs to be amnestied and Al Horford/Marvin Williams needs to be traded and Hinrich dumped....they can start over and try to put some pieces around Smith. If they absoluely are hell bent on trading him then I wouldnt take anything back that isnt named Bynum, Gasol or Howard...or Top Tier SG/PG. Steve Nash...no...why would he come to Atlanta to play with Horford and Johnson...that isnt a championship team...not with this offense. Tyreke Evans? We already have a mediocre SG...Amare...he needs a quality PG which ATL does not have.

IDK...Please kill me if he gets traded...

hawks4
03-09-2012, 06:24 PM
So did Chris Bosh deserve to be an All Star? How about Carmelo Anthony...? Its one thing to say Joe Johnson shouldnt have gotten the nod, but this year Josh Smith deserved it...what the !@#$ does the core have to do with making the All-Star team? Josh is right...they overpaid Joe Johnson and should have just let him walk...clearly they can compete without him. Horford better then Josh...IDK about that..Horford has a better 10-15 jump shot but thats about it. Smith is a better defender, rebounder, passer, hustler...etc. Hawks should have gotten a center years ago but are fiddly farting around...they also need a PG b/c Jeff Teague is not the answer.

Hopefully, Josh wont be traded and hasnt asked to be traded because I think he is the heart and soul of this team. I'd rather see ANYONE else go but Josh. Joe Johnson needs to be amnestied and Al Horford/Marvin Williams needs to be traded and Hinrich dumped....they can start over and try to put some pieces around Smith. If they absoluely are hell bent on trading him then I wouldnt take anything back that isnt named Bynum, Gasol or Howard...or Top Tier SG/PG. Steve Nash...no...why would he come to Atlanta to play with Horford and Johnson...that isnt a championship team...not with this offense. Tyreke Evans? We already have a mediocre SG...Amare...he needs a quality PG which ATL does not have.

IDK...Please kill me if he gets traded...

:clap: I wish there was a slow clap smilie

Kings&BucsFan
03-09-2012, 11:02 PM
Josh Smith would be niiiice paired with Demarcus Cousins.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7hzuucx

How about that Hawks fans?^ ;)

*Silver&Black*
03-09-2012, 11:15 PM
The trade could have one thinking, if there was a way to get Joe off the team with Teague/Evans being our new backcourt. Also Hawks fans like Thompson instead of Hayes.

Would the Kings actually want Smith and Cousins? Talk about needing vets.

Kings&BucsFan
03-09-2012, 11:33 PM
The trade could have one thinking, if there was a way to get Joe off the team with Teague/Evans being our new backcourt. Also Hawks fans like Thompson instead of Hayes.

Would the Kings actually want Smith and Cousins? Talk about needing vets.

Even tho I like Hayes, I'd rather Thompson too. Idk what the Kings would want but I personally wouldn't mind a few players with attitude. I've been getting sick of watching soft Kings teams since our heyday. Doubt Smith would want to come here tho.

*Silver&Black*
03-09-2012, 11:36 PM
Even tho I like Hayes, I'd rather Thompson too. Idk what the Kings would want but I personally wouldn't mind a few players with attitude. I've been getting sick of watching soft Kings teams since our heyday. Doubt Smith would want to come here tho.

Hawks are in the same boat man (soft players). That is why I like Smith. Nobody knows what Smith wants (besides winning), he has came out and said he didn't say anything about wanting to get traded today.

I like your Kings team and hopefully Cousins works out for you all.

Lakerfan In NY
03-10-2012, 10:09 AM
lakers need offence don't think j smith would make them any better

No team w/ Kobe needs offense. The Lakers need a better overall defense, especially at the PG, shooters & people to run the floor.

Add in MWP & S Blake for M. Williams protected 1st or 2nd rounder & im in.

Gasol, MWP, Blake
Smith, Hinrich, M. Williams, pick

nyKnicks126
03-10-2012, 04:40 PM
Do you want Carmelo Anthony for Josh Smith a filler and a first round pick?

*Silver&Black*
03-10-2012, 04:49 PM
Do you want Carmelo Anthony for Josh Smith a filler and a first round pick?

sure. Smith, Marvin and a 1st for Melo works.

Teague/Johnson/Anthony/Horford/Zaza

Sign me up.

Quietmoney
03-10-2012, 04:53 PM
sure.

Teague/Johnson/Anthony/Horford/Zaza

Sign me up.

How about Amare and fields for Josh Smith and whatever else makes the numbers work?

ManRam
03-10-2012, 04:54 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6nxq2px

Wrong.

Try this!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6sv5agz

Not only do we get the two best players, but we also save about like 40 million dollars in the long run! Great deal for both teams!

I Rock Shaqs
03-10-2012, 05:01 PM
wrong.

Try this!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradema...radeid=6sv5agz

not only do we get the two best players, but we also save about like 40 million dollars in the long run! Great deal for both teams! lmfao

hawks4
03-10-2012, 05:26 PM
Wrong.

Try this!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6sv5agz

Not only do we get the two best players, but we also save about like 40 million dollars in the long run! Great deal for both teams!

Stop

ManRam
03-10-2012, 05:38 PM
Stop

Haha. Sorry. I'm just illustrating how poor of a job some people do at proposing these trades. No wonder they're always so suprised their team never pulls off a good trade...they don't realize how hard it is to get two sides to agree. Nor do they understand how to look at their silly proposals and ask "if I were the other team, would I honestly ever do this?".


Obviously that's an awful trade...but you see them all the time. It's amazing the inability some people have to come up with fair trades.

Mayweather&NYK
03-10-2012, 05:46 PM
Great trade for both teams.... NY and ATL

Amare Stoudemire, Jeremy Lin, and Landry Fields

for

Josh Smith, Jeff Teague, and Kirk Hinrich

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=8868esa

upgrades both lineups......

Atlanta

PG Jeremy Lin
SG Joe Johnson
SF Marvin Williams
PF Stoudemire
C Al Horford

our Lineup

PG Jeff Teague
SG JR Smith/SHump
SF Carmelo
PF Josh SMith
C Tyson.......... a new look for both teams..... and a fresh start for 2 stars....

hawks4
03-10-2012, 06:38 PM
Haha. Sorry. I'm just illustrating how poor of a job some people do at proposing these trades. No wonder they're always so suprised their team never pulls off a good trade...they don't realize how hard it is to get two sides to agree. Nor do they understand how to look at their silly proposals and ask "if I were the other team, would I honestly ever do this?".


Obviously that's an awful trade...but you see them all the time. It's amazing the inability some people have to come up with fair trades.

Hahaha. Oh okay I thought you were serious.

*Silver&Black*
03-10-2012, 10:30 PM
Wrong.

Try this!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6sv5agz

Not only do we get the two best players, but we also save about like 40 million dollars in the long run! Great deal for both teams!

Great deal for both teams? No. We help Magic keep Dwight, give up our best player, and get Hedo.

Edit: Sorry, seen that you were joking in later post.

JordansBulls
03-12-2012, 05:39 PM
suns- Smith, T-mac

Mavs- Lopez, Morris

Hawks- Odom, Duds, suns 1st

What about this? I think this is probably a more fair trade.

Who exactly does this deal help out?