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MagicBucsSox
03-06-2012, 06:35 PM
Has that time come?



http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-la-espns-ric-bucher-lakers-should-consider-trading-kobe-bryant-20120306,0,1696311.story

Venomous88
03-06-2012, 06:37 PM
Time come for Ric Bucher to lose his job?

Aust
03-06-2012, 06:49 PM
lol Ric Bucher.

First, it would be up to Kobe since he has that no-trade clause. And truthfully, no one would want him due to that fat contract killing your wiggle room

Iron24th
03-06-2012, 06:54 PM
Ric Bucher...

Chronz
03-06-2012, 06:54 PM
Lets see what Dymez has to say about this clown now

Panthers4life
03-06-2012, 06:59 PM
i agree but will never happen.

championships
03-06-2012, 06:59 PM
Not even possible unless Kobe says so.... No Trade Clause!

ThunderousDemon
03-06-2012, 07:00 PM
http://www.pic4ever.com/images/ugly004.gif

stawka
03-06-2012, 07:02 PM
lol nothing this ****ing clown says can surprise me

naps
03-06-2012, 07:07 PM
Lets see what Dymez has to say about this clown now

He'll say it's LeBron's fault that Bucher said it. You know it already Chronz.

Evolution23
03-06-2012, 07:10 PM
Wtf?

hgtiger32
03-06-2012, 07:11 PM
How can people take Bucher serious?

wjmoffatt
03-06-2012, 07:16 PM
Time has come to trade him! They really need to consider clearing up some cap space to either get guys to build with Bynum or to get howard and bring in DWill, either way time has come for Bryant to go. That contract is eating up to much space on their salary, about a 1/3rd.

And this is coming from one of the biggest LAkers fans, haven't missed a playoff game in over a decade. Kobe fans or none lakers fans will say no. But LAKERS fans not Kobe fans will say yes

KB-Pau-DH2012
03-06-2012, 07:22 PM
Ric Bucher also said in the summer of 2007 that we have seen the last of Kobe Bryant in a L.A. Lakers uniform.

thekmp211
03-06-2012, 07:25 PM
hes the worst. worse than stephen a., skip, all of them. by a mile. he's just not as bombastic as them. i hate ric bucher.

Burkey3472
03-06-2012, 07:29 PM
ESPN should look into firing Ric Bucher.

BULLSFAN0810
03-06-2012, 07:30 PM
Logically from a bussiness"New England Patriots" perspective....Yes,he can only decline and his lifespan now is maybe 3 years depending if he can take backseat to Bynum,which is NO. Its hard to say really. But if LA is in full rebuild mode id say yes. You can get almost whatever you like ;almost.If you can trade a Kobe You can possibly have the team to put around a Pau and Bynum Tandem OR you can trade Pau also and build around Bynum with more pieces. Its Logical but "CRAZY LOGIC" if you want to trade Kobe....but Organizations like New England seem to apply this logic and you see them in the hunt more than not.

shep33
03-06-2012, 07:30 PM
I bet Bucher would rank Javale McGee as a top 5 shooting guard

ManRam
03-06-2012, 07:33 PM
I actually don't think it's 100% preposterous...but it still won't ever be considered, nor should it really.

Certainly not this year, but his contract will slowly start to cripple that team. The window is slamming shut, IMO. A shake up might keep that window open, but as this roster is, the window is close to shutting.

I mean, $28M next year, and then $30M a year after that? Yikes. He and Gasol are gonna make up like 75% of the cap alone.

Problem is, they wouldn't get close to fair value for him...not at all.

thedfactor
03-06-2012, 07:38 PM
Eh Bucher sounding more and more of an idiot

Leftcoast_yg
03-06-2012, 07:43 PM
Time has come to trade him! They really need to consider clearing up some cap space to either get guys to build with Bynum or to get howard and bring in DWill, either way time has come for Bryant to go. That contract is eating up to much space on their salary, about a 1/3rd.

And this is coming from one of the biggest LAkers fans, haven't missed a playoff game in over a decade. Kobe fans or none lakers fans will say no. But LAKERS fans not Kobe fans will say yes

Really??? Cuz I'm a Laker fan and I say NO, who made you a Laker Fans Rep.

Angelus™
03-06-2012, 07:44 PM
Stupidest thing i have heard all day

Cano-Montero...
03-06-2012, 07:45 PM
I actually don't think it's 100% preposterous...but it still won't ever be considered, nor should it really.

Certainly not this year, but his contract will slowly start to cripple that team. The window is slamming shut, IMO. A shake up might keep that window open, but as this roster is, the window is close to shutting.

I mean, $28M next year, and then $30M a year after that? Yikes. He and Gasol are gonna make up like 75% of the cap alone.

Problem is, they wouldn't get close to fair value for him...not at all.

Good thing about it though that him and gasol expire in the same year and Lakers have no contracts more than 2 years... SO its not that hard to rebuild.. They give the team 2 more run after this season and start from scratch after that..

Gormans Mic
03-06-2012, 07:47 PM
his age and contract mean you will never get fair value in return. It really is kind of as crazy as it sounds. If this was NBA2K12 I would trade him 100% right now....lol but its reality.

Chronz
03-06-2012, 07:49 PM
Hypothetically speaking, what could Kobe fetch in the trade market?

Ill21
03-06-2012, 07:50 PM
Dick bucher also thinks russel Westbrook is the greatest basketball player of all time

Kyben36
03-06-2012, 07:51 PM
it would be very dificult for them to trade kobe, he makes alot of money, and would want to go to a competing team, meaning, that competing team, would have to trade 20 mil back in oreder to get him, bassicaly taking that team and completly breaking it up.

MagicBucsSox
03-06-2012, 07:51 PM
La's problem is they overrate Bynum (respectively)and haven't moved Gasol when they could've

Reyes6
03-06-2012, 07:53 PM
Dumb... Kobe IS the Lakers and should retire a Laker. He's worth more than what you'll get in return.

Jesse2272
03-06-2012, 07:54 PM
Nice Bucher :D

:bla:

MeLaPelan!
03-06-2012, 07:56 PM
Since Ric Bucher's career as a serious analyst/insider is over, he's decided to take the Skip Bayless/Steven A.Smith route and be a clown.

h1gh3rl1mt1s
03-06-2012, 08:03 PM
Now that's a dumb suggestion. Not only to think Kobe's jersey sells the most in the entire world and not including that he is playing in one of the biggest market, why would the Lakers trade him.

Ric needs to be in Def Jam cause he's a serious comedian.. Good stuff

RaiderLakersA's
03-06-2012, 08:08 PM
No Trade Clause.

No Trade Clause.

No Trade Clause.

/openBucherseyes.

/closethread.

PHX2daDEATH
03-06-2012, 08:24 PM
Hypothetically speaking, what could Kobe fetch in the trade market?
even though they wont, cant see the Lakers trading him within the conference so your're limited to east teams..
Hawks-Joe Johnson, Josh Smith for Metta and Kobe, I would actually do this if I were the Lakers, Keep Gasol and Bynum..trade for Ray Felt and the Lakers are more balanced then ever..
Celtics-makes no sense.. and they don't want the staples center burning down
Bobcats-yeah right
Chicago-Lakers would almost certainly want Noah and Deng...not worth it for Chicago, the Lakers or Kobe.
Cleveland-Dan Gilbert could take a shot at winning now and getting that title before Lebron, would it cost them Kyrie? Almost certainly.
Detroit-Monroe stands out only..
Indiana-Interesting, George or Granger..Pacers would wanna give Granger and Lakers would ask for George..doesnt make sense.
Miami-ha
Knicks-only team that really stands out also..you would think the Knicks would jump at a Melo for Kobe deal but not vice versa

kobebabe
03-06-2012, 08:26 PM
Who cares what Bucher says or what Bucher thinks!

idrinkpepsi
03-06-2012, 08:58 PM
Didn't Bucher claim last week that Paul is the fifth best PG in the league?

Master Mind
03-06-2012, 09:09 PM
You don't trade a Kobe Bryant. Period.

bballswishanet
03-06-2012, 09:15 PM
Lol wut?

How can he say "Lakers need to look what they can get for Kobe Bryant" when Kobe has a no-trade clause?

wtf

Lol

HE HAS A NO TRADE CLAUSE so it is not even a "what if"

TubbyBucket
03-07-2012, 02:04 AM
Just further reinforces my opinion that the vast majority of sports journalists are nothing more than glorified celebrity gossip reporters.

J4KOP99
03-07-2012, 02:11 AM
Trade him+Fisher to NJ for D-will, Brooks, and Okurs expiring

Rego247
03-07-2012, 02:18 AM
Ric bucher is a ****ing moron.

brooklynball
03-07-2012, 02:37 AM
lol bucher...hes ridiculous

KingPosey
03-07-2012, 02:44 AM
Did we start a thread, about a Journalist saying they SHOULD trade a player? Has THAT time come?

C-Style
03-07-2012, 05:42 AM
Blashemy

Lim
03-07-2012, 06:18 AM
they should but it will never happen. they should literally trade everyone except Bynum and start the rebuilding process. again, wont happen though

Reptar
03-07-2012, 06:42 AM
Logically from a bussiness"New England Patriots" perspective....Yes,he can only decline and his lifespan now is maybe 3 years depending if he can take backseat to Bynum,which is NO. Its hard to say really. But if LA is in full rebuild mode id say yes. You can get almost whatever you like ;almost.If you can trade a Kobe You can possibly have the team to put around a Pau and Bynum Tandem OR you can trade Pau also and build around Bynum with more pieces. Its Logical but "CRAZY LOGIC" if you want to trade Kobe....but Organizations like New England seem to apply this logic and you see them in the hunt more than not.

Yea, except Kobe is the Lakers's Tom Brady. And the Patriots don't trade Tom Brady.

Should the Bulls have traded Jordan late in his career? Niiiiiiiice

kurivaimu
03-07-2012, 07:47 AM
About the no-trade clause. Do you actually think that if the Lakers tell KObe that they don't want him anymore, then Kobe won't surrender his no-trade clause IF he's being dealt to a team he likes?
In 2007 Kobe was close to being dealt to the Suns and he was willing to drop the no-trade clause.

Overall, trading him might not be a bad idea. His contract is horrid limiting the lakers caps space and his production will eventually go down.

naps
03-07-2012, 07:49 AM
If you take the emotion out of it then YES they should look into moving him for the best of the franchise. There is no question about it. And loyalty factor should not work much here because Kobe was as good as gone when they sucked. Now, LA won't do/think about it naturally and even if they did there will be no one offering them anything worthy for his fatass contract. I still cannot believe Kobe signed that contract. I mean I understand everyone wants millions but he made his money and he should have thought of giving the team wiggle cap room to add more depth and thus positioning himself at a much better chance at winning a couple more. He's eating up half of team's cap. Ridiculous!

69centers
03-07-2012, 08:28 AM
Ric Bucher is a complete waste of air time on ESPN. Just yesterday on TV he put Westbrook above Chris Paul and Deron Williams in his top PG's in the league ranking.

jgthegame1982
03-07-2012, 08:45 AM
Wow!!

wjmoffatt
03-07-2012, 09:11 AM
Really??? Cuz I'm a Laker fan and I say NO, who made you a Laker Fans Rep.

Well then you must be an idiot, cause I'm not content with be an average franchise.

theheatles
03-07-2012, 10:22 AM
bucher has to be a puppet, maybe a ventriloquist doll

Dankster
03-07-2012, 10:30 AM
I can't see him leaving, the guy has been the face of the franchise for so long. What would be considered a fair trade for someone like Kobe factoring in his age and his contract but still playing at a very high level??

It would be so odd to see Bryant in any other uniform.

whitemamba33
03-07-2012, 02:20 PM
About the no-trade clause. Do you actually think that if the Lakers tell KObe that they don't want him anymore, then Kobe won't surrender his no-trade clause IF he's being dealt to a team he likes?
In 2007 Kobe was close to being dealt to the Suns and he was willing to drop the no-trade clause.

Overall, trading him might not be a bad idea. His contract is horrid limiting the lakers caps space and his production will eventually go down.

Consider who he'd be traded to.

If you know anything about Kobe Bryant, you know that he isn't going to waive his no trade clause to go to a non-contending team. So we can already rule out most of the league as likely destinations.

Out of the remaining teams, how many of them are willing to completly blow up all of their success to match the contracts...all for a guy who has a couple years left? The Lakers will definitly want some strong pieces in return, so even on a previously WINNING team Kobe is going to be left with a squad that has lost some major talent.

None of it adds up.

JoeyDubb23
03-07-2012, 02:30 PM
JoeyDubb23: ESPN Should look into trading Ric Bucher

pd1dish
03-07-2012, 02:42 PM
Time come for Ric Bucher to lose his job?

haha this

Bucher always says nonsense and has false reports

sep11ie
03-07-2012, 02:49 PM
I'd rather listen to Ric Flair talk about basketball.

Sadds The Gr8
03-07-2012, 02:49 PM
Ric bucher is a ****ing moron.

this.

RaiderLakersA's
03-07-2012, 07:08 PM
About the no-trade clause. Do you actually think that if the Lakers tell KObe that they don't want him anymore, then Kobe won't surrender his no-trade clause IF he's being dealt to a team he likes?
In 2007 Kobe was close to being dealt to the Suns and he was willing to drop the no-trade clause.

Overall, trading him might not be a bad idea. His contract is horrid limiting the lakers caps space and his production will eventually go down.

Cut off their nose to spite their face? I'm not saying that they wouldn't do it, but it's not very likely. I may be a Lakers fan for life, but there are some fans who would definitely bail on the new regime if they were to maliciously and systematically alienate Kobe to the point that he'd want to relinquish his No Trade provision. It would mean that the team itself had been reduced to a putrid pit of sewer slime.

Kobe isn't going anywhere. Not until his contract is up.

justinnum1
03-07-2012, 07:21 PM
mr. :puke:er

Bruno
03-07-2012, 07:31 PM
ESPN should look into trading Ric Bucher to Bleacherreport.com

theheatles
03-07-2012, 07:44 PM
ESPN should look into trading Ric Bucher to Bleacherreport.com

bucher for chris chase works on the trade machine to send bucher to yahoo

DR. Pepper
03-07-2012, 08:07 PM
trade him to new jersey for Dwill and lopez/brooks with fillers. then go out and get D12. maybe Brooks, Gasol fillers/picks for Dwight and turkoglu.

Bruno
03-07-2012, 08:46 PM
trade him to new jersey for Dwill and lopez/brooks with fillers. then go out and get D12. maybe Brooks, Gasol fillers/picks for Dwight and turkoglu.

LAL would have Bynum and Howard? not sure if that would work.

Hawkeye15
03-07-2012, 08:58 PM
hes the worst. worse than stephen a., skip, all of them. by a mile. he's just not as bombastic as them. i hate ric bucher.

I think Stephen A is the worst for sure, but Ric has lost so much credibility, if he had any, over the past few years.

They can't trade that salary, Laker fans would revolt, and Kobe has a no trade clause. Why even write this?

MagicFan1976
03-08-2012, 09:10 AM
Has that time come?



http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-la-espns-ric-bucher-lakers-should-consider-trading-kobe-bryant-20120306,0,1696311.story

Don't know who would want him. Kobe occupies almost 50% of cap space and shoots 17-57 from the field.

No thanks. I would rather take Hedo Turkoglu

UPRock
03-08-2012, 09:34 AM
Don't know who would want him. Kobe occupies almost 50% of cap space and shoots 17-57 from the field.

No thanks. I would rather take Hedo Turkoglu

:laugh:

MagicHero3
03-08-2012, 11:14 AM
Don't know who would want him. Kobe occupies almost 50% of cap space and shoots 17-57 from the field.

No thanks. I would rather take Hedo Turkoglu

u want to use cap space as an argument and then say youd rather have the cancerous, ball chucking, turnover machine, black hole named Hedo? PLEASE tell me u werent actually serious.