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SteBO
02-29-2012, 11:35 PM
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http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/OKC_wordmark.png-@- http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/ORL_wordmark.png

Location: Amway Center
Time: 8:00 P.M.
Channel: TNT



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Location: US Airways Center
Time: 9:00 P.M.



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http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/LAC_wordmark.png-@- http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/SAC_wordmark.png

Location: Power Balance Pavillion
Time: 10:00 P.M.



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http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/MIA_wordmark.png-@- http://www.nba.com/tvc/image/assets/wordmarks/POR_wordmark.png

Location: Rose Garden
Time: 10:30 P.M.
Channel: TNT

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:49 AM
Thunder/Magic :drool:

We're gonna lose, but it should be fun!

UPRock
03-01-2012, 10:11 AM
The Miami game begin at 11:30 over here, chit! I've to wake up early tomorrow to go to college... :(

Aust
03-01-2012, 10:35 AM
Heat Blazers should be good

Baller1
03-01-2012, 11:37 AM
The TNT games are going to be good tonight. Good thing I work...

Chi StateOfMind
03-01-2012, 02:06 PM
Miami vs Portland will be good. I expect OKC to handle Orlando.

shep33
03-01-2012, 02:38 PM
Man, the Wolves got a back to back to back out of the break, that's tough

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2012, 04:19 PM
Brian Windhorst

Chris Bosh won't play tonight in Portland or tomorrow at Utah because of a personal matter.

:(

UPRock
03-01-2012, 04:32 PM
Brian Windhorst


:(

Maybe some problems with his pregnant wife.

knicks_champ
03-01-2012, 04:32 PM
Thunder
Wolves
Clippers
Heat

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 04:36 PM
Brian Windhorst


:(

I read he was having custosdy problems with his ex and there daughter, he was in orlando court monday morning filing some motions. Hopefully everything is ok

We just might unleash curry tonight;)


and great sig^

Briggurlacher
03-01-2012, 04:39 PM
I read he was having custosdy problems with his ex and there daughter, he was in orlando court monday morning filing some motions. Hopefully everything is ok

We just might unleash curry tonight;)


and great sig^


Lmao.. I forgot good old Cheeseburger Eddy was even on the Heat. Hopefully they've reinforced the floors in Portland.

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2012, 04:51 PM
Ira Winderman

Chris Bosh to miss the next two games (Portland, Utah) due to the death of his grandmother. Coach Erik Spoelstra said the Heat is hopeful of getting him back for Sunday's game against the Lakers at Staples Center.

RIP Grandma Bosh

kntresistheheat
03-01-2012, 04:59 PM
Ira Winderman


RIP Grandma Bosh

UD to start?

Chalmers
Wade
Lebron
Haslem
Anthony

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 05:06 PM
UD to start?

Chalmers
Wade
Lebron
Haslem
Anthony

rio
wade
jones
bron
anthony

?

Haberstroh
Bosh-related info: LeBron James' PER at small forward: 29.1. At power forward? 43.1.:speechless:

Evolution23
03-01-2012, 06:11 PM
I read he was having custosdy problems with his ex and there daughter, he was in orlando court monday morning filing some motions. Hopefully everything is ok

We just might unleash curry tonight;)


and great sig^

oh no, not Curry. The whole league is scared now.

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 06:11 PM
oh no, not Curry. The whole league is scared now.

You should be, he will eat you.

zo#33
03-01-2012, 06:11 PM
43.1!? smfh

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 06:13 PM
43.1!? smfh

Yea, absurd. He is so efficient in the post.

PleaseBeNice
03-01-2012, 07:37 PM
Let's gooooooo Kings!!!

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 08:26 PM
Thunder
Wolves
Clippers
Heat

Ur sig:laugh2:

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:09 PM
KD and Dwight are two of the most underrated players in the league, should be a fun game.



Also: Rip City FTW

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:21 PM
How excited are you all to talk Magic with me tonight?! Probably your collective dream come true.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:22 PM
KD and Dwight are two of the most underrated players in the league, should be a fun game.



Also: Rip City FTW

KD, underrated? I think it's widely known that these are top 5 players, at worst...

But OK...

tredigs
03-01-2012, 09:22 PM
KD and Dwight are two of the most underrated players in the league, should be a fun game.



Also: Rip City FTW

Underrated? How so? Year in/out MVP candidates and considered top 5 players in the league by most people.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:23 PM
The amount of goaltends Dwight makes on shots that aren't going in is astronomical...

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Underrated? How so? Year in/out MVP candidates and considered top 5 players in the league by most people.

"KD can only shoot jumpers and Dwight can only dunk"

tredigs
03-01-2012, 09:24 PM
I'd say Westbrook is one one of the more underrated players in the league, and Dwight one of the more overrated frankly.

@ChiSox - no non-blind/hating fan says that. And he is widely considered the #1 defender in basketball.

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:26 PM
Why can't a highly ranked player be underrated? You guys are too closed minded.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:26 PM
"KD can only shoot jumpers and Dwight can only dunk"

I have never once in my life heard anyone simplify either of those two to that much of an extreme. KD is a perennial top 2-3 MVP candidate. Howard has been a top 5 player for years. What do you want people to think of them as? The absolute best players in the NBA?

Underrated? I just don't get it.

Westbrook is underrated, because the media bashes his every move and criticizes him constantly. I mean, look at TNT's coverage to start this whole thing...they talked about his flaws for the first five minutes of the pregame show...

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:27 PM
I'd say Westbrook is one one of the more underrated players in the league, and Dwight one of the more overrated frankly.


:speechless:

tredigs
03-01-2012, 09:27 PM
Though Dwight is one of the poorer passing elite bigs of the past few generations, and still doesn't have a jumper/can't hit the side of a barn from the line. Also, his blocks could be SO MUCH more effective if he was less about the show of them.

/Dwight rant.

Love when these two teams play btw.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:30 PM
Dwight I think became underrated at times last year to overrated later on. This year, he hasn't been as great as he was last year. His flaws are real, and at times, he's a major detriment. He can't hit FTs, he's useless late in games offensively, and he's a TO machine. His offensive game has not improved this season, perhaps even regressing. I thought he was the 2nd or 3rd best player in the league last year (heavily emphasizing his defense...which also has been markedly worse), but this year, if you still think that, I'm not sure you're right. He's probably rated correctly. A few people overrate him, a few people underrate him, most get it right...and it averages out.

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2012, 09:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUqaIUPRhhU

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:33 PM
Howard has improved his passing, but it's still not where it needs to be. The amount of times he gets doubled and even tripled necessitates that he passes it more...and he often doesn't. Most times that results in missed shots or turnovers...

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:33 PM
Dwight I think became underrated at times last year to overrated later on. This year, he hasn't been as great as he was last year. His flaws are real, and at times, he's a major detriment. He can't hit FTs, he's useless late in games offensively, and he's a TO machine. His offensive game has not improved this season, perhaps even regressing. I thought he was the 2nd or 3rd best player in the league last year (heavily emphasizing his defense...which also has been markedly worse), but this year, if you still think that, I'm not sure you're right. He's probably rated correctly. A few people overrate him, a few people underrate him, most get it right...and it averages out.

this year is weird because of the circus but once that is settled Dwight will be back to the #1 player and no worse than #2.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUqaIUPRhhU

Disclaimer, they just added a penis drawing to the first page, so if you're at work, don't click.

Rose don't dance! (http://rosedontdance.tumblr.com/)

tredigs
03-01-2012, 09:35 PM
Dwight I think became underrated at times last year to overrated later on. This year, he hasn't been as great as he was last year. His flaws are real, and at times, he's a major detriment. He can't hit FTs, he's useless late in games offensively, and he's a TO machine. His offensive game has not improved this season, perhaps even regressing. I thought he was the 2nd or 3rd best player in the league last year (heavily emphasizing his defense...which also has been markedly worse), but this year, if you still think that, I'm not sure you're right. He's probably rated correctly. A few people overrate him, a few people underrate him, most get it right...and it averages out.

I hold my homeboy ManRammer's opinion on Dwight about as highly as anyone, and this mirrors my less informed thoughts on him also - so there ya have it ChiSox.

I hate on Dwight slightly more than I should simply because I DO think he's overrated by many (less so this year, though). His skill level exceeds his actual positive impact, and I don't think ManRam even touched on a few other big knocks on his game that other top 1-5 players don't have (some mental).

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:37 PM
I hold my homeboy ManRammer's opinion on Dwight about as highly as anyone, and this mirrors my less informed thoughts on him also - so there ya have it ChiSox.

i did not say Dwight has no weaknesses, only that he is underrated. Howard's strengths have such an impact on winning but people almost always focus on the things he can't do. I'd give everything the Bulls have to offer short of Rose and I'm terrified of Deron being paired with Dwight.

NBA_Starter
03-01-2012, 09:37 PM
Good game so far

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:38 PM
God I love Earl Clark.

#FreeEarlClark

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:39 PM
i did not say Dwight has no weaknesses, only that he is underrated. Howard's strengths have such an impact on winning but people almost always focus on the things he can't do. I'd give everything the Bulls have to offer short of Rose and I'm terrified of Deron being paired with Dwight.

He makes things easier for everyone else, for sure. He makes it easier for shooters to get open, and defensively his impact is probably underrated. But still, you factor in his flaws and he's just not the best player in the NBA. He is useless offensively late in games. You think LeBron chokes, making him less of a player, but at least he can score 10-15 points in any given 4th quarter...Dwight can't do that.

But yes, his overall impact on the game, both ends considered, is rivaled by few, if any.

tredigs
03-01-2012, 09:40 PM
i did not say Dwight has no weaknesses, only that he is underrated. Howard's strengths have such an impact on winning but people almost always focus on the things he can't do. I'd give everything the Bulls have to offer short of Rose and I'm terrified of Deron being paired with Dwight.

Paired with a go to playmaker/true #1 option Dwight would thrive. But I don't think he can be the #1 option on a title winning team.

He has monster strengths and monster weaknesses, but those weaknesses can be hidden on the right roster. That's what he'll need to win.

To give him credit, I do think he could be the best player on a title winning team.

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:41 PM
He makes things easier for everyone else, for sure. He makes it easier for shooters to get open, and defensively his impact is probably underrated. But still, you factor in his flaws and he's just not the best player in the NBA. He is useless offensively late in games. You think LeBron chokes, making him less of a player, but at least he can score 10-15 points in any given 4th quarter...Dwight can't do that.

But yes, his overall impact on the game, both ends considered, is rivaled by few, if any.

I think Dwight should get some blame but with a competent PG and possibly a different coach, I think this could be remedied.

kdspurman
03-01-2012, 09:41 PM
A Magic win would be nice :D

kdspurman
03-01-2012, 09:43 PM
Paired with a go to playmaker/true #1 option Dwight would thrive. But I don't think he can be the #1 option on a title winning team.

He has monster strengths and monster weaknesses, but those weaknesses can be hidden on the right roster. That's what he'll need to win.

To give him credit, I do think he could be the best player on a title winning team.

He can't because he does not have a great post game yet. He's gotten much better over the years. Not to mention his FT shooting. Getting him someone like Deron, his numbers on offense would surely go up.

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:43 PM
Paired with a go to playmaker/true #1 option Dwight would thrive. But I don't think he can be the #1 option on a title winning team.

He has monster strengths and monster weaknesses, but those weaknesses can be hidden on the right roster. That's what he'll need to win.

To give him credit, I do think he could be the best player on a title winning team.

Dwight scores 30 a night and wins at least one title if he's playing with Deron

NBA_Starter
03-01-2012, 09:44 PM
Magic looking good at home

NBA_Starter
03-01-2012, 09:45 PM
Big Baby

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:45 PM
I think Dwight should get some blame but with a competent PG and possibly a different coach, I think this could be remedied.

No. He doesn't fight to get position, or get open.

And, we try feeding him late in the 4th, and he just stinks. He's either fouled (missing one or two FTs), turns it over, or is stopped. His FG% in the 4th is awful. I kept track of his 4th quarter touches in a GT the other day, I can find it for you. He was like 1-4, 3 TOs and an assist or something.

You can blame the PGs all you want, but the team moves the ball well as a whole...and that's more important than relying on just one player. Dwight just isn't that advanced yet, and doesn't work hard enough either.

knicks_champ
03-01-2012, 09:46 PM
Ur sig:laugh2:
Haha

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae56/BXDSOM/shaqnem.gif

NBA_Starter
03-01-2012, 09:47 PM
My boy Anderson :dance2:

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:47 PM
No. He doesn't fight to get position, or get open.

And, we try feeding him late in the 4th, and he just stinks. He's either fouled (missing one or two FTs), turns it over, or is stopped. His FG% in the 4th is awful. I kept track of his 4th quarter touches in a GT the other day, I can find it for you. He was like 1-4, 3 TOs and an assist or something.

You can blame the PGs all you want, but the team moves the ball well as a whole...and that's more important than relying on just one player. Dwight just isn't that advanced yet, and doesn't work hard enough either.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=single&year_id=2011&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&c1stat=fga&c1comp=ge&c1val=25&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=efg_pct

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:47 PM
hey, OKC, Anderson doesn't miss from there. might wanna body him ;)

tredigs
03-01-2012, 09:49 PM
Dwight scores 30 a night and wins at least one title if he's playing with Deron

zero chance he scores 30 a night. If anything he scores the same or less as he'll have a guy taking more shots away from him. You don't increase your scoring load in year 9 10ppg miraculously because you're playing with a better point. POSSIBLY if he was on a team like the Heat and went to a team like... Orlando. But not in the scenario you're talking about.

And that team would still need quite a few nice pieces and a strong coach to win a ship.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:50 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/plus/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=single&year_id=2011&is_playoffs=N&team_id=&opp_id=&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&shot_pts=&is_make=&shot_type=&shot_distance_min=&shot_distance_max=&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&c1stat=fga&c1comp=ge&c1val=25&c2stat=&c2comp=ge&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=ge&c3val=&order_by=efg_pct

OK. First, he's taken such a tiny amount all year. Secondly, only a fifth of those are assisted, so I'd bet you a huge chunk of those made FGs are off of put backs and broken plays. He's great at cleaning up garbage, and of those 17 FGs he's made that weren't assisted, I'd bet a huge chunk of those are cleaning up garbage, not running offense through him.

I've watched all but one Magic game this year. You don't have to trust me, or anyone else who watches or even covers the team regularly...that's fine. He's not a go-to scorer. Period.

We bring the ball up, hand it off to him, and he's not scoring often. :shrug:

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:50 PM
OK. First, he's taken such a tiny amount all year. Secondly, only a fifth of those are assisted, and I'd bet you a huge chunk of those made FGs are off of put backs and broken plays.

I've watched all but one Magic game this year. You don't have to trust me, or anyone else who watches or even covers the team regularly...that's fine. He's not a go-to scorer. Period.

We bring the ball up, hand it off to him, and he's not scoring often. :shrug:

last years numbers ^^^

like i said, this year is a circus

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:52 PM
OK. I'm done arguing against how good is...that was so two years ago. I'm not worrying about trades, so I'm not going to waste effort on this. I just wanna enjoy these 2.5 hours of basketball...and not have to worry about off-the-court crap.

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:53 PM
zero chance he scores 30 a night. If anything he scores the same or less as he'll have a guy taking more shots away from him. You don't increase your scoring load in year 9 10ppg miraculously because you're playing with a better point. POSSIBLY if he was on a team like the Heat and went to a team like... Orlando. But not in the scenario you're talking about.

And that team would still need quite a few nice pieces and a strong coach to win a ship.

Dwight is R I D I C U L O U S on the P&R and if he had Deron passing to him instead of Jameer, Duhon, Hedo you are going to see a big jump in production. Sub Nash for Deron and same result.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:53 PM
last years numbers ^^^

like i said, this year is a circus

OK. Well, my same logic can translate over to last year.

This year, it's been a circus...but everyone is performing great in the clutch...and I'm not cutting him any slack since the circus is 100% his own down.

Slimsim
03-01-2012, 09:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUqaIUPRhhU

that bull 1:34 was doing the blood walk

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:55 PM
Dwight is R I D I C U L O U S on the P&R and if he had Deron passing to him instead of Jameer, Duhon, Hedo you are going to see a big jump in production. Sub Nash for Deron and same result.

Of course you'll see some improvement...but that's not HIM being better, that's others making it easy for him. We're arguing how good he is, right?

He's R I D I C U L O U S on it because he has to do less work. It's easier to score off the P&R if you're set up perfectly.

Jameer and Hedo are great P&R players...not great when they're not in the P&R.

I'm done with this. Not sure why the Magic fan is downplaying Dwight and the Chicago fan is defending him relentlessly :laugh:

tredigs
03-01-2012, 09:56 PM
If Nets can keep Deron and also luck out enough to get Anthony Davis in the draft while signing Howard? Then yeah, along with Marshon Brooks+Morrow you have yourself the title winners or contenders going forward. A lot of if's there though. I think Dwight is a ~19/12 player on that team.

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 09:56 PM
OK. Well, my same logic can translate over to last year.

This year, it's been a circus...but everyone is performing great in the clutch...and I'm not cutting him any slack since the circus is 100% his own down.

No doubt about that, all I'm saying is Dwight will be the same player after the circus is over as he was before it started.

UPRock
03-01-2012, 09:59 PM
Big Baby is stupid.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 09:59 PM
Anderson's effort on the offensive glass is amazing. People just chalk it off as Dwight, but it's all effort. He's so good at that..

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 10:00 PM
If Nets can keep Deron and also luck out enough to get Anthony Davis in the draft while signing Howard? Then yeah, along with Marshon Brooks+Morrow you have yourself the title winners or contenders going forward. A lot of if's there though. I think Dwight is a ~19/12 player on that team.


Of course you'll see some improvement...but that's not HIM being better, that's others making it easy for him. We're arguing how good he is, right?

He's R I D I C U L O U S on it because he has to do less work. It's easier to score off the P&R if you're set up perfectly.

Jameer and Hedo are great P&R players...not great when they're not in the P&R.

I'm done with this. Not sure why the Magic fan is downplaying Dwight and the Chicago fan is defending him relentlessly :laugh:

damn dwight is underrated

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:01 PM
Everything for the Magic always boils down to effort. It really does. Stan has said it, Dwight has said it, JJ has said it, and everyone around the team has said it...

The effort tonight has been top notch. It often wavers from quarter to quarter, but this is great.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:01 PM
damn dwight is underrated

OK. I don't think he's the best player in the NBA and I think he has flaws. Therefore, he's underrated. Makes sense...

Been a joy debating with you...moving on...

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 10:02 PM
7.3% of Dwight's offensive plays have been pick n rolls, get that number up to 30% or so and Dwight's dropping 30 with ease

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 10:03 PM
OK. I don't think he's the best player in the NBA and I think he has flaws. Therefore, he's underrated. Makes sense...

Been a joy debating with you...moving on...

go ahead move on, i'm still here

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:06 PM
Loving the ball movement tonight. When we move it like this, we're great. When we stagnate the offense, force one on ones and force it to Dwight, we crumble...

One of the better halves we've played all year. Amazing effort...and like I said, this team's problems are 90% effort


And damn, Russy :drool:

UPRock
03-01-2012, 10:06 PM
Orlando is rolling! I hope they keep that up, I want the Thunders to lose.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:09 PM
Craig, expecting Otis to actually tell you anything: foolish.

UPRock
03-01-2012, 10:11 PM
Shut up Otis, you don't know chit!

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 10:12 PM
KD euro step is damn near unstoppable

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:13 PM
Haha. Hedo mad.

I like it, shows he cares (I think he always cares, he just a relaxed laissez faire demeanor)

Baller1
03-01-2012, 10:19 PM
I wanna watch... :sigh:

tredigs
03-01-2012, 10:19 PM
Random thought: I've never seen so many NBA nets stuck on the rim as there have been this season (from dunks or swishes). Could be a new net?

Also, Steve Nash's new haircut makes him look like a lesbian. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:23 PM
Russy has a great half, and not a peep about him. I'm sure if he wasn't balling, he'd be torn to bits right now...


ChiSox, these guys are all "underrating" Dwight too...

tredigs
03-01-2012, 10:24 PM
Russy has a great half, and not a peep about him. I'm sure if he wasn't balling, he'd be torn to bits right now...


ChiSox, these guys are all "underrating" Dwight too...

He took 1 more shot than KD ManRam! This is why they never win and they both hate each other!

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 10:24 PM
ChiSox, these guys are all "underrating" Dwight too...

who's that?

UPRock
03-01-2012, 10:25 PM
Rubio with 7 points already, looks like he wants to beat his career high tonight.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:25 PM
who's that?

The TNT crew. Granted, everything they say I don't take seriously. Although, Shaq was actually being respectful about Dwight, and really making positive points...but he and Chuck said Dwight is "60% of the player he should be".

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 10:29 PM
The TNT crew. Granted, everything they say I don't take seriously. Although, Shaq was actually being respectful about Dwight, and really making positive points...but he and Chuck said Dwight is "60% of the player he should be".

oh i got rubio-nash on

but that's the other thing, Dwight is freak and people expect him to be Shaq but he's not and so people view Dwight as even less of a player than he actually is

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:30 PM
oh i got rubio-nash on

but that's the other thing, Dwight is freak and people expect him to be Shaq but he's not and so people view Dwight as even less of a player than he actually is

True. Dwight brings some of that on himself...but that's true. He won't ever be Shaq, but there is some obvious room for major improvement. 60% is way harsh...but I'd say he's about 80-85% of what he should/could be.

Hellcrooner
03-01-2012, 10:32 PM
i say dwight is 10% of what he could be if he had Hakeems feet cordination, shoot, skills, fundamentals , court vision, work ethics, basketball IQ etc.

Yep im telling it, if he had suck a freakis body and you could put the dreams mind into it we would be beholding the best player in history, by far.


but hey you know what? shaq was also only like 30% of what he could have been

tredigs
03-01-2012, 10:34 PM
i say dwight is 10% of what he could be if he had Hakeems feet cordination, shoot, skills, fundamentals , court vision, work ethics, basketball IQ etc.

Yep im telling it, if he had suck a freakis body and you could put the dreams mind into it we would be beholding the best player in history, by far.


but hey you know what? shaq was also only like 30% of what he could have been

And this post is 7% of what it could have been.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:34 PM
i say dwight is 10% of what he could be if he had Hakeems feet cordination, shoot, skills, fundamentals , court vision, work ethics, basketball IQ etc.

Yep im telling it, if he had suck a freakis body and you could put the dreams mind into it we would be beholding the best player in history, by far.


but hey you know what? shaq was also only like 30% of what he could have been

So you're saying he can be 9 times the player he is? That's scary!

But yeah...some of those aren't going to ever happen if they haven't happened by now...

Add leadership to that list too.

Hellcrooner
03-01-2012, 10:35 PM
And this post is 7% of what it could have been.

obviously, i could write a book bout it.

Hellcrooner
03-01-2012, 10:36 PM
So you're saying he can be 9 times the player he is? That's scary!

But yeah...some of those aren't going to ever happen if they haven't happened by now...

Add leadership to that list too.

there arent many players that do really become 100% of what they can be.

they usually end up being on the top 15-20 players ever.

right now in the league i think only Duncan and Kobe have met their 100% potential.

tredigs
03-01-2012, 10:37 PM
Westbrook gets lazy and falls in love with that 15 foot jumper a little too often.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:37 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we have already set a season high in fastbreak points...

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 10:38 PM
magic looking good

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:42 PM
The offense fluctuates, but the defense, for the most part is consistent. It's been solid tonight...especially at breaking up plays and getting in the fast break.

The wonders Stan and Dwight can do...

tredigs
03-01-2012, 10:42 PM
Wish the Thunder had a good coach. Guy like Adelman would be so huge for this squad.

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 10:43 PM
westbrook settling for dumb shots

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 10:43 PM
good pass by westbrook

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:44 PM
When we move the ball like this, we're a damn good team. The problem is when the ball stops moving and we force things to one player.

There's no reason the team ball movement shouldn't always be this good. We have capable passers. What's better than having one player do all the passing? Having 5 guys do it all...

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Dwight gets good position, and look what happens! Keep fighting Dwight.

Fnom11
03-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Dwight is hustling at the moment

kdspurman
03-01-2012, 10:48 PM
OKC struggling in the slowed down half court game... Has to improve

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:49 PM
Dwight looking sexy. Showing a lot of the moves he showed off last year...

ManRam
03-01-2012, 10:54 PM
Duhon is in, things will now go to ****.

When Dwight is an offensive threat, and this team hustles like they have today, I love this team.

I will now stop with the Magic-obsessed and gushy post-padding. :nod:

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 10:58 PM
Dwight howards post game has improved so much...he's fun to watch

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 10:58 PM
best dwight offensive qtr this season?

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 10:59 PM
Duhon is in, things will now go to ****.

When Dwight is an offensive threat, and this team hustles like they have today, I love this team.

I will now stop with the Magic-obsessed and gushy post-padding. :nod:

Why can't they play like this more often?

gotoHcarolina52
03-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Eric Reid

@ShaneBattier will start in place of @chrisbosh. Battier's 5th start of the season (4-0). Expect @KingJames to play the 4.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:04 PM
Why can't they play like this more often?

IDK. Like I've said a million times in this thread, their problems IMO are effort. They're playing with a lot more effort, unselfishness and smarts than normal. When they play hard, and lately that's been in 4th quarters, the offense is a well-oiled machine. When they start forcing isos, forcing it excessively to Dwight and jack bad threes, it all goes to ****.

All about effort. Everyone's a willing passer, everyone is moving around when they don't have the ball (that's key too, they tend to ball watch) and the defense has been tremendous.

Effort.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:06 PM
:laugh: Big Baby ends up on the floor a minimum of two times a game...

UPRock
03-01-2012, 11:06 PM
Big Baby :laugh:

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 11:07 PM
you can but dwight back in now

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:08 PM
OK...get the bench out of there...

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:11 PM
LOL dwight is so funny

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:12 PM
Hedo in summation: intentionally sucks for 3 quarters, tries in the 4th so he can look like a hero.

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:12 PM
Move around kd god he's horrible with out the ball

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:13 PM
I have a man crush on jj

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:13 PM
Ball movement stopped that time...hopefully that's just a fluke.

It will be VERY interesting to see how we utilize Dwight here. Hes been better than normal, probably the best offensive quarter of the season. Basically has earned the ball here. We don't give it to him much in the 4th...so we'll see.

Tmath
03-01-2012, 11:14 PM
Hedo in summation: intentionally sucks for 3 quarters, tries in the 4th so he can look like a hero.

I don't think he intentionally sucks, he just sucks period.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:16 PM
And Dwight showing why he can be a liability on offense late in games...not many good possessions lately with him being the focus.

Baller1
03-01-2012, 11:16 PM
KD/Westy/Harden time.

Baller1
03-01-2012, 11:17 PM
Finally off work, thank god.

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:18 PM
Fear the beard

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:19 PM
Dwight, you want to be the closer. You're getting the ball, so close.


I'm just not sure he can :sigh: If it keeps failing, I hope we go back to the perimeter game that has led us to a lot of prosperous 4th quarters.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:26 PM
It does seem like when Dwight is on, everyone else starts to stink...and vise-versa. They rarely coexist. Right now, everyone else is struggling...at least since the half. Dwight is playing well/getting the looks.

thekmp211
03-01-2012, 11:27 PM
ohhhhhrlando...

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:27 PM
Damn kd shot is beautiful

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 11:28 PM
magic cant buy a basket

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:28 PM
This was my greatest fear. Like I said, we've been great in the 4th quarters lately, but it's been basically 100% without Dwight doing anything offensively. We get him involved, and everyone else starts to lose their aggression. Now we're just screwed, because that's happened, and Dwight can't close.

J4KOP99
03-01-2012, 11:28 PM
Howard is looking like ****. Half-assing screens two possessions in a row. He just goes through these spurts of lackadaisical play when he isn't getting calls or can't get shots to go down or isn't getting the ball.

One of my main problems that I have had with howard since day 1 has been his body language.

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 11:31 PM
KD :drool:

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:31 PM
Dont do em like that kd

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:32 PM
This is why, even more than a PG, the Magic need a go-to scorer. They just don't have one.

J4KOP99
03-01-2012, 11:33 PM
It's amazing to me that a guy like Royal Ivey has found a way to stay in the league for 8 years...

I remember I once had to look up who he was when he was playing for the Longhorns because I was using them in an old NCAA (2k3 maybe) game cause they had TJ ford... I would edit in everyone's names so I knew who the hell I was playing with.

NBA_Starter
03-01-2012, 11:33 PM
Dwight got wayyyyyyyyy up

J4KOP99
03-01-2012, 11:34 PM
Nelson playing very well right now

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:34 PM
Wow. KD just happened...

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 11:34 PM
dirk

NBA_Starter
03-01-2012, 11:34 PM
That is just filthy Durantula, I didn't even think he knew the shot clock was almost expired

J4KOP99
03-01-2012, 11:34 PM
That sucks haha... Durant off of 1 ft, off balance, releasing it from in front of his head

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 11:35 PM
to good

zo#33
03-01-2012, 11:36 PM
wtf KD

ChiSox219
03-01-2012, 11:36 PM
This is why, even more than a PG, the Magic need a go-to scorer. They just don't have one.

there's been a couple where dwight came free off a pnr and would've had an easy oop but his guy passed out or took a mid range jumper, whole offense is out of sync

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:37 PM
Bron guarding la on the post LOL

30+ points for him tonight

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:37 PM
Wow. Some great defense there...we got too three happy.

Baller1
03-01-2012, 11:37 PM
:drool:

UPRock
03-01-2012, 11:37 PM
WTF Nelson, two easy shots.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:38 PM
oh well. we're a good team, that's clear, we just are a piece away from being about to compete with these elite teams. need a go-to wing scorer.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:41 PM
I bet you a million bucks the first thing Chuck says is that the Magic need a go-to scorer. Been saying that for YEARS.

I'll take a moral victory here...kinda. Not at all a championship team, but definitely a very, very good team.

ManRam
03-01-2012, 11:42 PM
Haha. What a tease.

Good game :shrug:

UPRock
03-01-2012, 11:43 PM
I agree, good game :)

UPRock
03-01-2012, 11:50 PM
Battier is going to play 4 tonight it seems.

b@llhog24
03-01-2012, 11:52 PM
Portland about to get raped by the Lebron show :sigh:

theheatles
03-01-2012, 11:52 PM
heat are going to lose by 20 and we are going to start hearing the heat ain't **** without bosh arguments

UPRock
03-01-2012, 11:52 PM
LeBron in hyper mode tonight!

theheatles
03-01-2012, 11:54 PM
tnt's cameras crap on sun sports

UPRock
03-01-2012, 11:57 PM
Aldridge can go for 50 if he wants to tonight :(

b@llhog24
03-01-2012, 11:57 PM
Lma making me eat my words so far :laugh:

Khri
03-01-2012, 11:57 PM
heat are going to lose by 20 and we are going to start hearing the heat ain't **** without bosh arguments

Really? Already giving up? I do miss Bosh :(

justinnum1
03-01-2012, 11:58 PM
anthony needs to sit down for the redt of the night

also this was hilarious http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/528787892.gif?key=480272&Expires=1330661663&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=oV2hPLkjtxYDq~uABvXDl~7G1hOZdk6b8f2L0~ZO 2l5UqKJQn5imMsLJegv6X6Ze08nz6C-gxvcg4HRv9vreLiJ8WenXhyC3LWHL6zpHT5IWtQgJ1hxV~9wM~ RViud~AFbYaW3Jc8QfDUd0KAspAQ-4dWiMQ8qXm2aMi-G1aCUY_

Fnom11
03-01-2012, 11:58 PM
Aldridge can go for 50 if he wants to tonight :(

Not sure why they wouldn't just play Haslem over Battier... Joel can't seem to guard LMA.

TheRunKiller
03-01-2012, 11:59 PM
La is a beast

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:01 AM
heat are going to lose by 20 and we are going to start hearing the heat ain't **** without bosh arguments

Don't worry u have 2 more superstars...must be nice

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:03 AM
Aldridge footwork is looking good as always.

Khri
03-02-2012, 12:03 AM
Anthony is so bad omg, kick this guy of the team

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:05 AM
Lets give Burger King some minutes, I'd bet he can guard L.A. better than Anthony.

xfyre
03-02-2012, 12:05 AM
Anthony is so bad omg, kick this guy of the team

they dont have anyone else O_0

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:06 AM
**** yea!

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:06 AM
they dont have anyone else O_0

Haslems a very solid defender.

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:06 AM
they dont have anyone else O_0

We have Burger King, Haslem and Howard on the bench.

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:06 AM
nasty oop!

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Miami Lob City!

kozelkid
03-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Man, that was a ****ing ridiculous play. If I was Rose, I'd envy Wade. Having a guy who you can throw up anywhere and expect the end of an alley oop.

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:07 AM
speaking of burger king, im gonna have to get me that italian chicken sanwich buy one get one free tomorrow:drool:

Khri
03-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Lebron and Wade: 18 points

rest of the HEAT team : 0 points

smh.

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Lets see who else gets a big game today besides Wade and Bron.

mrs rose
03-02-2012, 12:09 AM
#lobbeach

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:10 AM
That's Haslem! retire his number already LMAO.

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:10 AM
I like how LeBron has that look after a ally oop....make a game winning shot then do that same look. Douche bag

Khri
03-02-2012, 12:10 AM
Finally :clap:

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:14 AM
:)

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:14 AM
Haslem LOL

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:14 AM
:)

The_Jamal
03-02-2012, 12:21 AM
Jimmer just swagged all over the 2nd quarter

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:21 AM
Who's worse, Pittman or Anthony? God.

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 12:23 AM
^^^Pittman at least Anthony is really good at defense

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:23 AM
Why can't the bulls have scorers like every other team on the NBA coming off the bench? That really pisses ne off

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:23 AM
Who's worse, Pittman or Anthony? God.

pittman by a mile

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Who's worse, Pittman or Anthony? God.

I was thinkin the same thing lol

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:28 AM
Prysbilla , you traitor!

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:28 AM
Wade too stronk

gotoHcarolina52
03-02-2012, 12:28 AM
Dexter Pittman makes a 39 year old Juwan Howard look like a prime Kareem

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:29 AM
wades post game is rediculous

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Wade would look so good in a bulls uniform

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:30 AM
It sucks too because I had such high hopes for Pittman. Dude just doesn't have that scorer's mentality I guess.

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:33 AM
Dexter Pittman makes a 39 year old Juwan Howard look like a prime Kareem

:laugh:

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:33 AM
Udonis!!!!!!

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:35 AM
Udonis!!!!!!

You done it!

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 12:35 AM
^^^^ U Did It

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:35 AM
one man zone buster:cool:

naps
03-02-2012, 12:36 AM
Wade is too good. What a player!

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Wade:drool:

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:38 AM
That was goal tending :(

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:38 AM
dwayne wade's jumper is back, last time he had a jumper like this was 06

naps
03-02-2012, 12:39 AM
Wade is truly the most amazing thing to watch in basketball when he's healthy.

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:39 AM
And people still say that Kobe is the best SG in the game.

naps
03-02-2012, 12:40 AM
dwayne wade's jumper is back, last time he had a jumper like this was 06

And in 2008-09. But I agree in 2006 it felt like he couldn't miss a jumper.

naps
03-02-2012, 12:41 AM
And kobephiles still say that Kobe is the best SG in the game.

Fixed. You are welcome :cool:

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:41 AM
dwayne wade's jumper is back, last time he had a jumper like this was 06

U got caught slippin...I'm sure that's the last time u watched them:facepalm:

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:42 AM
What Gabrielle Union is doing to Wade is working!

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:42 AM
I'm really glad that Lebron and Wade figured out how to shoot a FT

gotoHcarolina52
03-02-2012, 12:43 AM
Wade sick nasty :drool:

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:43 AM
Wade's doing some 2K moves out there.

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:44 AM
Fixed. You are welcome :cool:

:clap:

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:44 AM
Portland sucks

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:45 AM
lbj is unreal

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:46 AM
U got caught slippin...I'm sure that's the last time u watched them:facepalm:

:facepalm: it was better in 06 than 08, nice try tho

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 12:46 AM
I'm really glad that Lebron and Wade figured out how to shoot a FT

Thank Noah!

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:46 AM
Who needs rupaul?

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:46 AM
udonis!!!!!!!

naps
03-02-2012, 12:46 AM
A Wade hater who creats threads like "Should Wade come off the bench?" OR "Miami Heat should trade Wade because they are a much better team without Wade" is viewing this thread. This game must be burning his *** right now :laugh2: I wonder you people know who I am talking about ;)

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:47 AM
No way in hell the Mavericks wins the title against THIS Heat.

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:47 AM
Who needs rupaul?
He's our bulls killer:p

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 12:47 AM
Damn Miami just looks so strong now compared to last year

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:48 AM
Haslem has 11 rebounds already :)

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 12:48 AM
great first half, the defense was on point in that half

Lakers + Giants
03-02-2012, 12:48 AM
goal tend. . .

Fnom11
03-02-2012, 12:48 AM
I like how NBA/TNT is doing a lot of bits with Kevin Heart, dude's mad funny.

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 12:49 AM
^^^ btw i thought Lebron thos dance moves

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:50 AM
He's our bulls killer:p

Oh yeah? We'll see this year

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 12:51 AM
Lebron N Wade- 41pts
Whole Portland team- 42pts wow

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:51 AM
Damn Miami just looks so strong now compared to last year

Chemistry my man, mixed with a better bench, Bron playing godly, and the team playing with a Mission of destroying everything at sight.

tredigs
03-02-2012, 12:51 AM
So Lebron and Wade are essentially outscoring the entire Blazers team.

On 21 less shots...

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:52 AM
^^^ btw i thought Lebron thos dance moves

Teach him how to make a winning shot then ill be impressed

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 12:53 AM
Teach him how to make a winning shot then ill be impressed

well i guess i have to teach rose as well:D

UPRock
03-02-2012, 12:54 AM
Teach him how to make a winning shot then ill be impressed

Yeah, teach Rose how to dance and I'll be impressed.

tredigs
03-02-2012, 12:56 AM
Teach him how to make a winning shot then ill be impressed

http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Prepare to be impressed?

He made more game winning shots in that 5 year span then every other player in the NBA (and I'm sure when it's updated, the trend continues). Every. Other. Player.

And this is your #1 knock on him.

Whoops.

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:57 AM
well i guess i have to teach rose as well:D

I did i guess u missed the games a couple days ago

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 12:58 AM
http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Prepare to be impressed?

He made more game winning shots in that 5 year span then every other player in the NBA (and I'm sure when it's updated, the trend continues). Every. Other. Player.

And this is your #1 knock on him.

Whoops.

Who the **** is talking about the last 5 years?

UPRock
03-02-2012, 01:00 AM
I did i guess u missed the games a couple days ago

I guess u missed the games before the games a couple days ago. Stop overrating Rose because he made a lucky shot a couple days ago.

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 01:00 AM
http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Prepare to be impressed?

He made more game winning shots in that 5 year span then every other player in the NBA (and I'm sure when it's updated, the trend continues). Every. Other. Player.

And this is your #1 knock on him.

Whoops.

is this site even updated cuz i didnt even see roses name lol but really is he there cuz i cant find him n plus lebron is ranked 1 on most makes 17 and i dont think thats right

gotoHcarolina52
03-02-2012, 01:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUqaIUPRhhU

MTL_123
03-02-2012, 01:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUqaIUPRhhU

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tredigs
03-02-2012, 01:03 AM
Who the **** is talking about the last 5 years?

That's the only stats available easily if you google the question **** brick.

I guarantee if there is an updated version he's right up there if not #1 still. But I challenge you to prove us wrong.

Punk
03-02-2012, 01:04 AM
Shaq doesn't know the difference between pubic hair and chest hair Lol

Lidz
03-02-2012, 01:07 AM
Who the **** is talking about the last 5 years?

Well then, what about last year?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg_DLzwoZ_I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPhG1yRGFoo

Recent enough?

justinnum1
03-02-2012, 01:08 AM
suffocating d

UPRock
03-02-2012, 01:11 AM
Wikipedia: "Derrick Rose went from Middle School straight to the University because he couldn't pass his classes in High School" I didn't know that o.O

gotoHcarolina52
03-02-2012, 01:15 AM
Good God that was beautiful

TheRunKiller
03-02-2012, 01:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUqaIUPRhhU

Ok?? He didn't make a fool out of himself like LeBron did