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KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 05:47 PM
From Orlando, Fl.—
NBA All-Star Game week has all the movers and shakers of the sport in the same place. So it makes it a great place for rumors.

Here's the latest one on Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard coming to the Lakers, courtesy of Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel.

The Magic send Howard, Hedo Turkoglu and Jameer Nelson to the Lakers for Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. The Toronto Raptors are also part of the rumor sending Jose Calderon to Orlando, although no one is quite sure what would complete that part of the trade.

The rumor also has all this happening on March 1.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-dwight-howard-to-lakers-20120226,0,7656235.story

shep33
02-26-2012, 05:54 PM
As a Laker fan, I highly doubt this

BcEuAbRsS
02-26-2012, 05:54 PM
Wouldn't that tickle ur fancy?

Jenceman
02-26-2012, 05:55 PM
I massively doubt this as well, but i've said from the beginning that if the Lakers are sending away Pau and Bynum, that Jameer or Anderson need to come back as well.

Hellcrooner
02-26-2012, 05:56 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

Sadds The Gr8
02-26-2012, 05:57 PM
I call bull **** on this...

shep33
02-26-2012, 05:58 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

I'm not gonna lie, the Magic would be a SF away from being a ridiculous team. But I still highly doubt this rumor.

utl768
02-26-2012, 05:59 PM
one could argue orlando becomes a better team after this

NYsFinest
02-26-2012, 05:59 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

your love for calderon and pau is hilarious...that keeps them as a decent team, but does not make them a contender. a calderon, reddick, richardson starting line up isnt scaring anyone.

latinofire21
02-26-2012, 06:00 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

lol I like your posts man. SPANISH POWERRR lmao

That looks like a really good team considering that Orlando has no leverage lol right nets fans lol?

I have been saying that I can see a team for contender aspirations making a strong play for Howard. I used the Hawks as my example but Lakers definitely fit that bill as well.

I think it comes down to whether the Lakers would be willing to bring Deron into LA next year and I dont really think they can do that so they would really have to work some magic in the offseason to make the space to make Howard happy. That Lakers team would be very scary to play.

Da Knicks
02-26-2012, 06:01 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

That would be a very scary team but give up? Come on now!

kenzo400
02-26-2012, 06:01 PM
So the Raptors would throw in Calderon for what exactly? I can't imagine them getting back anything good.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 06:01 PM
Dynamic of Calderon+Pau+Bynum > Nelson+Howard

numba1CHANGsta
02-26-2012, 06:01 PM
The Lakers would have a gap at the PF position, but if the Lakers can get Beasley from Minny for the TPE and a draft pick then im all for this trade!

Nelson/Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Goudlock/Kapono
Hedo/MWP/Barnes
Beasley/McRoberts
D12/Murphy

All of a sudden the Lakers become a deep team and will have the best duo in the league!

raiderNlakerfan
02-26-2012, 06:02 PM
pau and bynum?

Gators123
02-26-2012, 06:02 PM
Yeah...no.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 06:03 PM
one could argue orlando becomes a better team after this

For sure, isn't that was GM Otis Smith always wanted. To still stay in contention after trading away Dwight?

Stuckey#3
02-26-2012, 06:03 PM
Nelson
Bryant
World Peace
Sheed
Howard

This actually looks as if Dwight engineered this. He and Nelson are inseparable (otherwise he would have been gone already). And Dwight has always looked up to Sheed. Now all he needs is the Lakers to trade Kobe for Josh Smith and Joe Johnson and it will be team Dwight in LA.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 06:05 PM
Nelson
Bryant
World Peace
Sheed
Howard

This actually looks as if Dwight engineered this. He and Nelson are inseparable (otherwise he would have been gone already). And Dwight has always looked up to Sheed. Now all he needs is the Lakers to trade Kobe for Josh Smith and Joe Johnson and it will be team Dwight in LA.

Joe Johnson is an overrated overpaid bum.

utl768
02-26-2012, 06:06 PM
orlando is a 3rd or 4th seed with bynum gasol and calderon although i cant see them getting past miami or chicago unless they get a good sg/sf type scorer

shep33
02-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Stupid trade for the Lakers.

Tony_Starks
02-26-2012, 06:09 PM
I actually like that earlier rumored 3 way deal with LA/Minny/ ORl better.........

If Im Orlando I'd rather have a young frontcourt of Bynum and Williams for the long haul than Bynum/ Gasol. I guess it depends on how bad they want to shed contracts though.....

Lakers + Giants
02-26-2012, 06:09 PM
I hope not. don't like this deal. .

29$JerZ
02-26-2012, 06:10 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

Seeing as how Jeremy Lin alone beat the Lakers who both had Bynum/Gasol and NY had no Melo/Amar'e I wouldn't be worried. Not to mention we have a Calderon shut down player in Iman

lvlheaded
02-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Highly doubt that

Jenceman
02-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Seeing as how Jeremy Lin alone beat the Lakers who both had Bynum/Gasol and NY had no Melo/Amar'e I wouldn't be worried. Not to mention we have a Calderon shut down player in Iman

Holy ****, one good game against a team with the worst point guards in the league and you think that proves everything?

Stuckey#3
02-26-2012, 06:13 PM
And Lin yet again makes his way into a forum that has nothing to do with him.

NYsFinest
02-26-2012, 06:14 PM
i like this deal for both teams.... lakers know they arent winning a fitle with this core and this is a great way to start rebuilding on the fly. orlando gets a lot of talent back and remains relevant in the east. WIN -WINP

RaffyBoy
02-26-2012, 06:16 PM
raps would probably get one of their draft picks, either lakers or magics, i think.

numba1CHANGsta
02-26-2012, 06:16 PM
Seeing as how Jeremy Lin alone beat the Lakers who both had Bynum/Gasol and NY had no Melo/Amar'e I wouldn't be worried. Not to mention we have a Calderon shut down player in Iman

LMAO umm so when Lin had Melo and Amare back they lose to the Nets? haha

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 06:16 PM
not a fan of this deal..

29$JerZ
02-26-2012, 06:16 PM
Holy ****, one good game against a team with the worst point guards in the league and you think that proves everything?

My point was NY has nothing to fear about an Orlando team with Calderon/Pau/Bynum since we have a rookie who literally shut down Calderon in our last game and Lin was able to go to work against a 7 foot front court.

Relax?

Tmath
02-26-2012, 06:18 PM
If this is true hopefully the Raptors get back something decent in return but as saddler said its probably BS.

MJ-BULLS
02-26-2012, 06:18 PM
“I can tell you for a fact the Lakers offered Andrew Bynum and the Magic do not want him,” said a Western Conference executive.”



That’s why the Nets continue on the prowl for an acceptable centerpiece to send to the Magic. Brook Lopez doesn’t meet Smith’s specifications.

Per Peter Vecsey

meloman1592
02-26-2012, 06:19 PM
The Lakers would have a gap at the PF position, but if the Lakers can get Beasley from Minny for the TPE and a draft pick then im all for this trade!

Nelson/Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Goudlock/Kapono
Hedo/MWP/Barnes
Beasley/McRoberts
D12/Murphy

All of a sudden the Lakers become a deep team and will have the best duo in the league!

Im sorry, did wade and lebron get kidnapped during all star weekend?

5ass
02-26-2012, 06:19 PM
With a front line of Pau/Bynum/Anderson. Pau splits his time at both positions. With a good passing PG in calderon, just get them perimeter defense+3pt shooting, and leave redick on the team for back court 6th man and we can compete with any1

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 06:20 PM
Per Peter Vecsey

with that reply then there is no way he ends up in NJ...lol

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:21 PM
As a Laker fan I don't want to give both Pau and Bynum for dwight, nelson, and Hedo. I would rather have them give us Ryan Anderson and Dwight only.

Stuckey#3
02-26-2012, 06:21 PM
Im sorry, did wade and lebron get kidnapped during all star weekend?

There it is.

5ass
02-26-2012, 06:22 PM
As a Laker fan I don't want to give both Pau and Bynum for dwight, nelson, and Hedo. I would rather have them give us Ryan Anderson and Dwight only.

No way the magic trade u Anderson as well, his stock is just too high right now.

29$JerZ
02-26-2012, 06:22 PM
Marshon Brooks
Brook Lopez
1st rounder
Something else?

If Orlando just doesn't want Bynum I find it hard NJ will find a better package unless Dwight makes it clear its NJ all the way

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:22 PM
There it is.

I think the best duo is in Oklahoma to be honest. :p

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:23 PM
Marshon Brooks
injured Brook Lopez
1st rounder
Something else?

If Orlando just doesn't want Bynum I find it hard NJ will find a better package unless Dwight makes it clear its NJ all the way

Fixed it for you. ;)

numba1CHANGsta
02-26-2012, 06:23 PM
Im sorry, did wade and lebron get kidnapped during all star weekend?

a duo of Kobe/D12 would win more championships than a duo of Wade/LeBron

oak2455
02-26-2012, 06:26 PM
Holy **** wtf

Tmath
02-26-2012, 06:27 PM
Give the Raptors JJ.Redick and some 1st rounders and I'm happy.

latinofire21
02-26-2012, 06:27 PM
a duo of Kobe/D12 would win more championships than a duo of Wade/LeBron

Well all they would have to do is win 1 and mission accomplished on that one.

Mr Costanza
02-26-2012, 06:28 PM
lmao so you're telling me Wade/LeBron is better than Kobe/D12? n

Yes.

justinnum1
02-26-2012, 06:29 PM
Interesting, i knew chaz had something sneaky up his sleeve

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:29 PM
Give the Raptors JJ.Redick and some 1st rounders and I'm happy.

You sure you wouldn't be happier if they took the Commander with them. :D

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:30 PM
Well all they would have to do is win 1 and mission accomplished on that one.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Tony_Starks
02-26-2012, 06:30 PM
Per Peter Vecsey


Peter Vecsey saying that means Dwight will be in a Laker uniform soon. He's about as reliable as a baby mamma......

Raps18-19 Champ
02-26-2012, 06:30 PM
a duo of Kobe/D12 would win more championships than a duo of Wade/LeBron

Depends how long Kobe plays.

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:30 PM
Yes.

May I know how you came to this conclusion?

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:31 PM
Interesting, i knew chaz had something sneaky up his sleeve

:drunk:

Raps18-19 Champ
02-26-2012, 06:31 PM
We better not get ****.

And I want Daniel Orton along with it.

shep33
02-26-2012, 06:31 PM
Okay this is actually starting to spread on the web :(

Tmath
02-26-2012, 06:32 PM
You sure you wouldn't be happier if they took the Commander with them. :D

Who? Rasual Butler? If one of the Lakers or Magic want to take him off our hands I would be ecstatic. The Lakers should take him since he basically won the game for them the last time we matched up.

Mr Costanza
02-26-2012, 06:33 PM
May I know how you came to this conclusion?

Simply an opinion. Easily debatable for both sides.

5ass
02-26-2012, 06:34 PM
how would toronto fans feel if they traded calderon+davis for Ebanks+Redick+1st+2 2nds

Tmath
02-26-2012, 06:34 PM
As long as he doesn't go to the Nets or the Atlantic I'm happy.

sargon21
02-26-2012, 06:34 PM
No way the magic trade u Anderson as well, his stock is just too high right now.

not if orlando doesnt want to pay him, which they shouldn't

5ass
02-26-2012, 06:35 PM
not if orlando doesnt want to pay him, which they shouldn't

how do u know? why wouldnt they want to pay him?

Tmath
02-26-2012, 06:36 PM
how would toronto fans feel if they traded calderon+davis for Ebanks+Redick+1st+2 2nds

Hey, its ok with me, I would prefer 2 1st rounders but you can't have everything you want.

soundjunkies2
02-26-2012, 06:36 PM
I have mixed feelings about this if true.

Fireworld
02-26-2012, 06:36 PM
I don't like it right now but if they prove they can win then I'm all for it.

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:36 PM
Who? Rasual Butler? If one of the Lakers or Magic want to take him off our hands I would be ecstatic. The Lakers should take him since he basically won the game for them the last time we matched up.

We have our own version of Rasual Butler already , his name is :puke: walton.

Mr Costanza
02-26-2012, 06:37 PM
Guys keep in mind this is really just one of many rumors you are going to hear from "credible" sources over the next few weeks. Tomorrow the soup of the day will be the Nets, Tuesday the Mavs...

kblo247
02-26-2012, 06:37 PM
Per Peter Vecsey

The one guy who can make Bucher look credible and accurate

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 06:38 PM
plssss no....

ThunderousDemon
02-26-2012, 06:39 PM
Hey, its ok with me, I would prefer 2 1st rounders but you can't have everything you want.

Can we have DeMar DeRozan? :pray:

Tony_Starks
02-26-2012, 06:40 PM
The one guy who can make Bucher look credible and accurate


Lol Peter Vescey is so horrible they don't even let him get on tv anymore. Whens the last time you saw espn or nbtV interviewing or even quoting him?
Everyone knows dude lives in the land of make believe......

knicks=love
02-26-2012, 06:41 PM
one could argue orlando becomes a better team after this

this might be the one time i agree with you

Raps18-19 Champ
02-26-2012, 06:42 PM
how would toronto fans feel if they traded calderon+davis for Ebanks+Redick+1st+2 2nds

Why would we trade the best player and the guy with the best potential for a role player who is only really serviceable on a playoff team, late picks and a guy who hasn't shown anything appealing in his short NBA career?

knicks=love
02-26-2012, 06:42 PM
i hope dwight stays in orlando. i'll have so much more respect for the guy than i already do.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 06:42 PM
I want to see Nets fans try to argue Lopez + picks > Bynum & Gasol :facepalm:

knicks=love
02-26-2012, 06:43 PM
Why would we trade the best player and the guy with the best potential for a role player who is only really serviceable on a playoff team, late picks and a guy who hasn't shown anything appealing in his short NBA career?

raps to the rescue :superman:

Kaspa
02-26-2012, 06:44 PM
Talk to me when something's official, until then I don't believe any of the bull**** "sources" say.

justinnum1
02-26-2012, 06:45 PM
The one guy who can make Bucher look credible and accurate

lol :puke:er

Tmath
02-26-2012, 06:45 PM
Can we have DeMar DeRozan? :pray:

No.

kjoke
02-26-2012, 06:46 PM
If the magic then go and trade anderson+ for josh smith and

Calderon
Reddick
Smith
Pau
Bynum

beasted86
02-26-2012, 06:46 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

I honestly don't know how serious to take your comments anymore.

I don't know where the split lies anymore between stuff you say just to get a reaction and stuff you believe in that lunatic perception of yours in regards to basketball talent. :shrug:

kntresistheheat
02-26-2012, 06:46 PM
I'm seeing this trade all over the net. This can't be true?

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 06:50 PM
This is all per Brian Schmidtz, Magic Insider and from the Orlando Sentinel.


Orlando Magic fans, please let us know how credible this guy is and how insync he is to the talks that go on in Magic FO.

5ass
02-26-2012, 06:50 PM
Why would we trade the best player and the guy with the best potential for a role player who is only really serviceable on a playoff team, late picks and a guy who hasn't shown anything appealing in his short NBA career?

Calderon isnt really worth a lottery 1st anyway, he has a bad contract, he was a candidate for being Amnestied last summer. He might be the best player on the raptors, but thats not saying much. They atleast get some cap relief, and a player like JJ redick who they can trade for another pick if need be, plenty of play off teams will want him. They're giving up ed davis, but its not like the guy is going to get his minutes with Bargnani there. Both are PFs and cant play C.

RaiderLakersA's
02-26-2012, 06:51 PM
rumor?

Kaspa
02-26-2012, 06:52 PM
I'm seeing this trade all over the net. This can't be true?

Funny...I don't see it mentioned anywhere that has any credibility what so ever.

LOOTERX9
02-26-2012, 06:52 PM
The trade is a LIE

knicks=love
02-26-2012, 06:53 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

:facepalm: look at their bench.. i'm not afraid of that lineup if no one is afraid of the knicks' lineup. give up as a knicks or celtics fan? come on crooner, that's ridiculous.

Tmath
02-26-2012, 06:53 PM
Calderon isnt really worth a lottery 1st anyway, he has a bad contract, he was a candidate for being Amnestied last summer. He might be the best player on the raptors, but thats not saying much. They atleast get some cap relief, and a player like JJ redick who they can trade for another pick if need be, plenty of play off teams will want him. They're giving up ed davis, but its not like the guy is going to get his minutes with Bargnani there. Both are PFs and cant play C.

Calderon is one of the most underrated PG's in the NBA, his contract only has one year left so its not that bad and he was never going to be amnestied our owners are to cheap for that and Ed Davis was a 13th pick so we should get 2 first rounders out of the deal you proposed.

Lakeshow24KB
02-26-2012, 06:55 PM
PLEASE don't do it.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-26-2012, 06:57 PM
Calderon isnt really worth a lottery 1st anyway, he has a bad contract, he was a candidate for being Amnestied last summer. He might be the best player on the raptors, but thats not saying much. They atleast get some cap relief, and a player like JJ redick who they can trade for another pick if need be, plenty of play off teams will want him. They're giving up ed davis, but its not like the guy is going to get his minutes with Bargnani there. Both are PFs and cant play C.

What kind of logic is that?

Trade JJ for a pick? Why the hell don't I just trade Calderon for a pick. He's sure as hell more valuable and is more in demand.

And just because the PF position is crowded doesn't mean I'm gonna take a ****** offer like that.

KB24PG16
02-26-2012, 06:58 PM
bad trade for la

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 06:59 PM
People fail to realize that this is so good for Orlando, it's probably too good to be true for them. They get that Spanish connection with Jose and Pau and you add Drew and a couple of shooters? That's a dangerous team that you can build around for sure. Pau and Drew will probably benefit from SVG's system then they were with playing of Mike Brown and a guy who likes to get his first in Kobe. Pau would be the first option on the Orlando team.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 07:00 PM
bad trade for la

Dwight will attract free agents right now and post-Bryant era. Bynum and Gasol unfortunately don't have that star and personality appeal to do that for the Lakers organization.

5ass
02-26-2012, 07:02 PM
What kind of logic is that?

Trade JJ for a pick? Why the hell don't I just trade Calderon for a pick. He's sure as hell more valuable and is more in demand.

And just because the PF position is crowded doesn't mean I'm gonna take a ****** offer like that.

essentially u are trading calderon for a pick, and then davis for redick+ebanks+2 2nds. Chill out i dont get why ur so mad, im just asking here how u guys would feel. It could end up being another 1st instead of 2 2nds, i really dont know, and im not saying its not plausible. I just dont agree with it.

Pakman
02-26-2012, 07:03 PM
Do it. All u lakers fans get over it. This is a trade for the future. Which I don't mind at ALL. Haha complain bout Howard n kobe. Ridiculous.

showtym24
02-26-2012, 07:03 PM
Cant wait to get my D12 jersey thursday! LMAO.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-26-2012, 07:05 PM
essentially u are trading calderon for a pick, and then davis for redick+ebanks+2 2nds. Chill out i dont get why ur so mad, im just asking here how u guys would feel. It could end up being another 1st instead of 2 2nds, i really dont know, and im not saying its not plausible. I just dont agree with it.

And in both scenarios, trading Calderon for a pick and Davis for that package is horrible.

Most Raptors fan want young talent, not necessarily a pick, for Calderon. And Davis can net better than Reddick.

And it's not getting mad. It's just putting an end to a bad trade idea.

lakersiznumber1
02-26-2012, 07:05 PM
wth lakers noooooooooooo no dont give away gasol no way

rockbottom2010
02-26-2012, 07:06 PM
what would the raptors get in return...def a first rounder

Tmath
02-26-2012, 07:10 PM
And in both scenarios, trading Calderon for a pick and Davis for that package is horrible.

Most Raptors fan want young talent, not necessarily a pick, for Calderon. And Davis can net better than Reddick.

And it's not getting mad. It's just putting an end to a bad trade idea.

I think you are overvaluing ED, I would take Reddick for him easy.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 07:10 PM
I hope we get someone like a Barbosa from Toronto and a knockdown 3 pt shooter from Orlando like a Reddick.

sargon21
02-26-2012, 07:13 PM
how do u know? why wouldnt they want to pay him?

middle of the road player having a contract year, not really a game-changer, and they don't want another rashard lewis type mistake...

Tmath
02-26-2012, 07:14 PM
I hope we get someone like a Barbosa from Toronto and a knockdown 3 pt shooter from Orlando like a Reddick.

Man, Lakers fans are greedy.

PhillyFaninLA
02-26-2012, 07:15 PM
Yeah this is real because people always say lets agree to this trade today and wait a 5 days to make it official so you know players can injured or something along those lines.

justinnum1
02-26-2012, 07:15 PM
Cant wait to get my D12 jersey thursday! LMAO.

lol

5ass
02-26-2012, 07:15 PM
middle of the road player having a contract year, not really a game-changer, and they don't want another rashard lewis type mistake...

ok otis

soundjunkies2
02-26-2012, 07:16 PM
I thought Toronto wasn't interested in trading Calderon?

Gram
02-26-2012, 07:17 PM
Seeing as how Jeremy Lin alone beat the Lakers who both had Bynum/Gasol and NY had no Melo/Amar'e I wouldn't be worried. Not to mention we have a Calderon shut down player in Iman

See this is why Knick fans get harped on and laughed at. And yet they still wonder why no one likes them.

KB24PG16
02-26-2012, 07:19 PM
most of these rumors never turn into actual trades so i doubt this happens

29$JerZ
02-26-2012, 07:23 PM
See this is why Knick fans get harped on and laughed at. And yet they still wonder why no one likes them.

Knick fans get harped on because its NY and they get large attention regardless of it being Negative/positive.

Replying to a comment that NY should fear a Calderon/Pau/Bynum lineup when they beat both teams players without their best players is a problem to you?

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 07:25 PM
Yeah this is real because people always say lets agree to this trade today and wait a 5 days to make it official so you know players can injured or something along those lines.

March 1st is when players like Dwight can sign their extensions, so if a deal were to be made to the Lakers, it would be an "Extend-and-trade" deal on March 1st.

Badluck33
02-26-2012, 07:27 PM
lolololololol.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 07:28 PM
How come if New Jersey is Dwight's main trade destination, then how come no trade proposals have come out yet? :confused:

Gram
02-26-2012, 07:29 PM
Knick fans get harped on because its NY and they get large attention regardless of it being Negative/positive.

Replying to a comment that NY should fear a Calderon/Pau/Bynum lineup when they beat both teams players without their best players is a problem to you?

They get laughed at because they think way too highly of their players. (Shumpert being the big one, some a you have a man crush on Novak, Lin I understand but he needs to be Linsane all season for me to appreciate his value.)

Thought you were talking about the Lakers - my bad. Although Shumpert isn't a lockdown defender like Knick fans think he is.

Badluck33
02-26-2012, 07:31 PM
How come if New Jersey is Dwight's main trade destination, then how come no trade proposals have come out yet? :confused:

because ORL doesn't want any thing NJ has to offer.

a 3rd team has to be involved to get Howard over to NJ.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 07:37 PM
because ORL doesn't want any thing NJ has to offer.

a 3rd team has to be involved to get Howard over to NJ.

Even then it'll be tough to get a 3rd team involved because outside of Deron Williams, and if Lopez and Marshon going to be used in going to Orlando, there's no one really outside of those 2 with a big enough contract and talent that New Jersey can use in a trade to that 3rd team to acquire the type of assets that Orlando will like.

oak2455
02-26-2012, 07:39 PM
See this is why Knick fans get harped on and laughed at. And yet they still wonder why no one likes them.

really GRAM

DODGERS&LAKERS
02-26-2012, 07:39 PM
I could have sworn I heard Dwight would still opt out if traded to the Lakers? That's a lot of money coming back. Can the Lakers even absorb those three?

poleandreel
02-26-2012, 07:42 PM
The Lakers would have a gap at the PF position, but if the Lakers can get Beasley from Minny for the TPE and a draft pick then im all for this trade!

Nelson/Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Goudlock/Kapono
Hedo/MWP/Barnes
Beasley/McRoberts
D12/Murphy

All of a sudden the Lakers become a deep team and will have the best duo in the league!

No.

Rather have Lebron/Wade or Lebron/Bosh or Westbrook/Durant

gwrighter
02-26-2012, 07:43 PM
BS, The sentinel writer is just trying to stir the pot.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 07:43 PM
BS, The sentinel writer is just trying to stir the pot.

The Sentinel writer is also a Magic Insider.

LTBaByyy
02-26-2012, 07:45 PM
Please happen!!!!!!!! :dance:

Deron to Dallas would be for sure

Bruno
02-26-2012, 07:45 PM
i'd rather see turk go to Toronto, Calderon go to LA, Nelson stay in Orlando and Anderson go to LA :)

Tmath
02-26-2012, 07:47 PM
i'd rather see turk go to Toronto, Calderon go to LA, Nelson stay in Orlando and Anderson go to LA :)

Yeah because Toronto really wants Turk back. :rolleyes:

FriedTofuz
02-26-2012, 07:47 PM
am I the only one who think the magic would be a better team? Calderon is a lot better than nelson, and pau and bynum would be a very good frontcourt. With the way bynum is playing he could really lead this team well. The magic lose howard turkoglu( who cares) and gain calderon bynum and pau. I think the magic do pretty alright. I dont want no turdofshit on my team though. ammesty his *** and I rather have calderon than nelson.

GOON MUSIC
02-26-2012, 07:48 PM
The Lakers would have a gap at the PF position, but if the Lakers can get Beasley from Minny for the TPE and a draft pick then im all for this trade!

Nelson/Fisher/Blake
Kobe/Goudlock/Kapono
Hedo/MWP/Barnes
Beasley/McRoberts
D12/Murphy

All of a sudden the Lakers become a deep team and will have the best duo in the league!

That's not a deep team, that bench is horrible

LTBaByyy
02-26-2012, 07:48 PM
Lakers get worse in this trade and Magic get better

Calderon
Richardson
Who Cares
Gasol
Bynum

6th man: Ryan Anderson, JJ Reducing

Best Big Man Rotation

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 07:49 PM
Please happen!!!!!!!! :dance:

Deron to Dallas would be for sure

I wouldn't say that for the simple fact that New Jersey won't let Deron just walk, so they might do a S&T of Deron to LA just so NJ can get something in return, like an expiring Jameer Nelson + fillers. Deron can get the Max by Dallas if he wants to play with an aging Dirk, or can get 15 Mil a yr (what LeBron, Bosh and Wade did in Miami) to play with aging Kobe and Prime Dwight in the bright lights of LA. If Deron and Dwight are that tight, and Deron doesn't want to totally screw New Jersey, leaving them for nothing, this could very well happen.

FriedTofuz
02-26-2012, 07:49 PM
i'd rather see turk go to Toronto, Calderon go to LA, Nelson stay in Orlando and Anderson go to LA :)

Toronto would boo him while at thepress conference if he came back. I think turkoglu would kill himself too if he were to get sent back to toronto. Not becaue its not a good city or organizatin but because he hates toronto because he was using them to get the best contract he could.

Tmath
02-26-2012, 07:49 PM
am I the only one who think the magic would be a better team? Calderon is a lot better than nelson, and pau and bynum would be a very good frontcourt. With the way bynum is playing he could really lead this team well. The magic lose howard turkoglu( who cares) and gain calderon bynum and pau. I think the magic do pretty alright. I dont want no turdofshit on my team though. ammesty his *** and I rather have calderon than nelson.

Its a fantastic deal for the Magic and still pretty darn good for the Lakers, as long as the Raptors get players like Reddick and Ebanks + a first, everyone wins really.

FriedTofuz
02-26-2012, 07:51 PM
I dont get how Toronto is involved in this. What will the magic give up

LTBaByyy
02-26-2012, 07:51 PM
Magic still have Big Baby, Ryan Anderson and JJ Reddick plus Calderon Richardson Gasol and Bynum

I would take this in a heart beat

FriedTofuz
02-26-2012, 07:52 PM
Its a fantastic deal for the Magic and still pretty darn good for the Lakers, as long as the Raptors get players like Reddick and Ebanks + a first, everyone wins really.

the magic pick would be a late lottery pick. Trading calderon to the lakers straight up for both their picks would help the lakers more in my opinion. andit would definatly give the raptors some youth in a deep deepp draft

LTBaByyy
02-26-2012, 07:53 PM
Magic and Mavericks would be the winners of this trade!

AceMan
02-26-2012, 07:55 PM
What happens to Ryan Anderson? Does he go to the bench? Offensively a unit of Calderon-Redick-Anderson-Pau-Bynum is a match up nightmare, but they'd give up a ton of points. I'd love to see that.

5ass
02-26-2012, 07:58 PM
big baby goes to LA imo

Lucky.
02-26-2012, 07:59 PM
What happens to Ryan Anderson? Does he go to the bench? Offensively a unit of Calderon-Redick-Anderson-Pau-Bynum is a match up nightmare, but they'd give up a ton of points. I'd love to see that.

Just about to post this..

LTBaByyy
02-26-2012, 07:59 PM
Can't wait for this to happen, hope it does

I know Dirk is hanging out with Deron this weekend

knicks=love
02-26-2012, 07:59 PM
They get laughed at because they think way too highly of their players. (Shumpert being the big one, some a you have a man crush on Novak, Lin I understand but he needs to be Linsane all season for me to appreciate his value.)

Thought you were talking about the Lakers - my bad. Although Shumpert isn't a lockdown defender like Knick fans think he is.

shumpert has a steal in 23% of his 1 on 1 match ups this season. as a rookie, that's very impressive. needs to be linsane for a season to appreciate his value? are you nuts? got waived twice, rid the bench for 20+ games playing nothing but garbage time then comes in and leads the knicks to a 7 game win streak, and had a better chance at being president of the united states than being an NBA player, but his value isn't appreciable.. wow, ok. as far as novak, i honestly believe people would be talking about him if it wasn't for all of this lin madness going on. novak is recognized all over the NBA as a very good pure shooter. stop hating on the knicks when you don't know what you're really talking about.

LTBaByyy
02-26-2012, 08:00 PM
Gasol-Bynum-Anderson Rotation is amazing.

superwill
02-26-2012, 08:03 PM
so you think that new jersey is going to just let him walk and get nothing for him really???

LakersMaster24
02-26-2012, 08:05 PM
Oh god Dallas fans...acting worse than some Lakers fans I know...

"FOR SURE DERON IS COMING TO DALLAS! FOR SURE"

FriedTofuz
02-26-2012, 08:05 PM
The nets gm should have a deal in place to trade deron williams if howard is traded. otherwise, the nets are screwed since they dont even have draft picks since they traded them to utah.

superwill
02-26-2012, 08:08 PM
The nets gm should have a deal in place to trade deron williams if howard is traded. otherwise, the nets are screwed since they dont even have draft picks since they traded them to utah.

im sure they will its no way in hell they dont get something for him.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 08:09 PM
We won't hear more confirmation of this news until after the all-star game ends. If indeed true, I expect this rumor to be reporter more by other media people either late tonight or tomorrow Monday morning.

Metsboi69
02-26-2012, 08:11 PM
The nets gm should have a deal in place to trade deron williams if howard is traded. otherwise, the nets are screwed since they dont even have draft picks since they traded them to utah.

First of all I don't believe any of these new LA rumors, Lakers aren't making that trade. Second the Nets have their first, and the Rockets lottery protected first this year, so your wrong. I think Billy King and Deron Williams are on the same page and I trust BK will make the right decision.

Metsboi69
02-26-2012, 08:13 PM
What I will also say is if Dwight is traded in the next 10 days Billy King will try and assemble another blockbuster deal for a player Deron likes, before he thinks about dealing him.

Avenged
02-26-2012, 08:13 PM
I hope this doesn't happen.

None of our issues get fixed. We would probably become a worst team. As great as Dwight is, our PG situation sucks and we have no bench.

topdog
02-26-2012, 08:13 PM
So the Raptors would throw in Calderon for what exactly? I can't imagine them getting back anything good.

Cap space to make a run at Wilson Chandler and likely some picks or something for their trouble.

FriedTofuz
02-26-2012, 08:14 PM
First of all I don't believe any of these new LA rumors, Lakers aren't making that trade. Second the Nets have their first, and the Rockets lottery protected first this year, so your wrong. I think Billy King and Deron Williams are on the same page and I trust BK will make the right decision.

yeah? orlando sentinel is reporting the trade too. They are both good sources
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-magic-schmitz-sunday-0226-20120225,0,424129,full.columnRumor mill to work overtime


Bynum probably has the best approach. Magic fans, you're going to hear wild rumors galore surrounding Howard until the March 15 trade deadline.

There's a rumor circulating involving Howard, where the deal actually will come down March 1.

It goes something like this: The Magic send Howard, SF Hedo Turkoglu and Nelson to the Lakers; the Magic receive Bynum and Gasol. The salaries are close to matching up, making the deal work.

A third team, the Toronto Raptors, could be part of the deal or in a separate trade with the Magic, sending PG José Calderon to Orlando.

Could be a great deal for the Magic, under the circumstances. There are some obvious holes in the scenario or scenarios.

For one, what do the Raptors get out of it? But the biggest hole is this: Howard is apparently cool on joining Kobe in L.A.

You've been warned.

49erGiantLaker
02-26-2012, 08:14 PM
Hope this does not happen. It most likely won't anyways.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 08:15 PM
I hope this doesn't happen.

None of our issues get fixed. We would probably become a worst team. As great as Dwight is, our PG situation sucks and we have no bench.

Our point guard is Jameer Nelson, our small forward is Turk, who might I add is like a point-forward because he's good at passing and facilitating and a good post-entry passer (Dwight has benefited playing with Turk).

SportsAndrew25
02-26-2012, 08:17 PM
Interesting. We will have to see though.

DeRozan10
02-26-2012, 08:18 PM
Great deal for Orlando

Decent deal for Lakers

Kobe and Pau will be a great duo but they'll have a ton of overpaid average players (Jameer, Hedo, Blake, Artest)

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 08:19 PM
Great deal for Orlando

Decent deal for Lakers

Kobe and Dwight will be a great duo but they'll have a ton of overpaid average players (Jameer, Hedo, Blake, Artest)

Fixed

DeRozan10
02-26-2012, 08:28 PM
Fixed

Thx B!

D-Block21-Chito
02-26-2012, 08:30 PM
The best scenario for them is to trade to new jersey for expirings and draft picks and groom Brooks into an all-star.. That being said I think he ends up a laker.... They will never beat heat and Bulls with that team tho... Best chance is getting another future all-star in draft picks

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 08:32 PM
The best scenario for them is to trade to new jersey for expirings and draft picks and groom Brooks into an all-star.. That being said I think he ends up a laker.... They will never beat heat and Bulls with that team tho... Best chance is getting another future all-star in draft picks

There is so much wrong with this post. Where do I begin?????



Well, as long as the Lakers get Dwight, I could care less about this nonsensical post. ;)

oak2455
02-26-2012, 08:32 PM
shumpert has a steal in 23% of his 1 on 1 match ups this season. as a rookie, that's very impressive. needs to be linsane for a season to appreciate his value? are you nuts? got waived twice, rid the bench for 20+ games playing nothing but garbage time then comes in and leads the knicks to a 7 game win streak, and had a better chance at being president of the united states than being an NBA player, but his value isn't appreciable.. wow, ok. as far as novak, i honestly believe people would be talking about him if it wasn't for all of this lin madness going on. novak is recognized all over the NBA as a very good pure shooter. stop hating on the knicks when you don't know what you're really talking about.

Dont even bother....

LakersA's49ers
02-26-2012, 09:01 PM
Gasol AND bynum? Hell no!

Hellcrooner
02-26-2012, 09:02 PM
am I the only one who think the magic would be a better team? Calderon is a lot better than nelson, and pau and bynum would be a very good frontcourt. With the way bynum is playing he could really lead this team well. The magic lose howard turkoglu( who cares) and gain calderon bynum and pau. I think the magic do pretty alright. I dont want no turdofshit on my team though. ammesty his *** and I rather have calderon than nelson.

bynum would lead what?

sorry to burst your bubble but pau has passed him again the last few weaks with his play.

and who do you think is going to look for calderon to pass the ball?

calderon to Pau is what fisher is to Kobe.

dsonLAL24
02-26-2012, 09:09 PM
LOL! this trade is not gonna happen. Just another rumor.

dodie53
02-26-2012, 09:10 PM
just do it.
hehe

Giraffes Rule
02-26-2012, 09:11 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

I wouldn't if I'm the Bulls, because Rose could just get whatever the **** he wants against that back court.

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 09:16 PM
March 1st may be my last day as a magic fan, possibly the worst trade for a superstar in history

Cfrey
02-26-2012, 09:17 PM
Lol it's funny that no one has talked about Dwight to Minny yet.

My uncle knows that Otis and Kahn hVe been talking for hours today.

king4day
02-26-2012, 09:18 PM
Didn't a rumor come out earlier saying Orlando was offered Bynum but said they don't want him?
IMO, why wouldn't they. Second best center in the league, still young, and has been staying healthy lately.
If this does happen, NJ better start looking for Deron deals. That'd be it for him.

ChaseHamels
02-26-2012, 09:23 PM
Our point guard is Jameer Nelson, our small forward is Turk, who might I add is like a point-forward because he's good at passing and facilitating and a good post-entry passer (Dwight has benefited playing with Turk).

What was your name on PSD prior to 3 months ago?

championships
02-26-2012, 09:23 PM
Can't really belive any rumors right now. Yesterday it was the Magic didn't want Bynum, today it's a different story.

All of these reporters are at the AS game fishing for rumors like high school girls.

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 09:24 PM
Lol it's funny that no one has talked about Dwight to Minny yet.

My uncle knows that Otis and Kahn hVe been talking for hours today.

I'd dove Dwight for Live straight up but your and your Uncle are liars. Ninny would never w/o an extentsion so stop frauding

somedude728
02-26-2012, 09:25 PM
Lol it's funny that no one has talked about Dwight to Minny yet.

My uncle knows that Otis and Kahn hVe been talking for hours today.

ever think that could be about a trade sending Beasley to the Wolves? Just a thought...

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 09:26 PM
What was your name on PSD prior to 3 months ago?

I signed up 3 months ago with the hopes that the Lakers would acquire Dwight without having to give up Pau. I signed up before the nixed CP3 deal ever happened.

I would love for us to keep Pau, but I understand that if that were not to happen, the front office has back up plans to shore up that 4 spot.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 09:27 PM
Can't really belive any rumors right now. Yesterday it was the Magic didn't want Bynum, today it's a different story.

All of these reporters are at the AS game fishing for rumors like high school girls.

They don't want Bynum straight up. They want him with Pau.

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 09:28 PM
Bynum can't even finish an all star game , no way would Orlando ever trade for him

king4day
02-26-2012, 09:29 PM
Lol it's funny that no one has talked about Dwight to Minny yet.

My uncle knows that Otis and Kahn hVe been talking for hours today.

The same could be said for every single team in the league though. He didn't list Minnesota so there's no reason anyone would talk about them.

Minny would be a title contender if he went there.

Hellcrooner
02-26-2012, 09:30 PM
March 1st may be my last day as a magic fan, possibly the worst trade for a superstar in history

go check some trades for supperstars.

Shaq? **** and more ****.

Barkley? **** and more ****.

Kareem? some nice role players.



You would be getting TWO ALLSTARS, thats unprecedent, in fact you could even argue that right away the trade is better for the Magic.

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 09:35 PM
You guy buy this crap story when Dwight said he's no signing no extentsion in LAL. Bynum is hurt as We speak, today Dwight said he's playing out the season in Orlando and that crap trade leaves us with no perimeter play

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 09:40 PM
You guy buy this crap story when Dwight said he's no signing no extentsion in LAL. Bynum is hurt as We speak, today Dwight said he's playing out the season in Orlando and that crap trade leaves us with no perimeter play

You get Bynum and Gasol. And like Jameer and Turk were playing out of their minds for you, right?

I wouldn't complain man.

DaLakerz Rulz
02-26-2012, 09:41 PM
You guy buy this crap story when Dwight said he's no signing no extentsion in LAL. Bynum is hurt as We speak, today Dwight said he's playing out the season in Orlando and that crap trade leaves us with no perimeter play

Crap trade? You have got to be kidding me. That is one of the best deals you could get for Howard. Good thing you aren't the Magic's GM.

Hellcrooner
02-26-2012, 09:47 PM
You guy buy this crap story when Dwight said he's no signing no extentsion in LAL. Bynum is hurt as We speak, today Dwight said he's playing out the season in Orlando and that crap trade leaves us with no perimeter play



richardson, reddick? anderson ( if he is not waht raps want).
and CALDERON.

what more perimeter play you want.

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 09:48 PM
A soft washed up PF and a one leg Oden waiting to happen? Best trade? Ahahahahahahaha of course you'd think that

Tony_Starks
02-26-2012, 09:52 PM
A soft washed up PF and a one leg Oden waiting to happen? Best trade? Ahahahahahahaha of course you'd think that


Mr Oden waiting to happen is the third leading rebounder in the league and 3rd in the league in double doubles.

I also remember hearing Stoudamire was a wrap about 5 years ago and he's WAY more above the rim than Bynum.....

ManRam
02-26-2012, 09:53 PM
i could live with that :sigh:

i know we wouldn't move pau because our owner wants to "contend" right away, but if we flipped pau for younger assets, i'd love it.

he probably feels calderon, redick, richardson, gasol, bynum, anderson etc. could "contend"

but i don't believe it...not from everything else i've heard. brian is a credible reporter, however...

luke21
02-26-2012, 09:54 PM
A soft washed up PF and a one leg Oden waiting to happen? Best trade? Ahahahahahahaha of course you'd think that

Washed up PF? he is top 5 power forward in the game.

one leg Oden? No Bynum plays....last time I checked he is the 2nd best center in the league.

It's the best deal there is.

If you don't like the Laker deal I'd hate to see you react to Dallas or New Jersey package :facepalm:

DaLakerz Rulz
02-26-2012, 09:55 PM
A soft washed up PF and a one leg Oden waiting to happen? Best trade? Ahahahahahahaha of course you'd think that

OK if you think it is so funny, why don't you suggest something that is realistically possible. Brook Lopez? Lol, wonder how well the Magic do with him..

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 09:55 PM
i could live with that :sigh:

but i don't believe it...not from everything else i've heard. brian is a credible reporter, however...

Perhaps the Lakers have caved in to include both of their bigs has convinced Orlando to finally go for it?

jim51990
02-26-2012, 09:59 PM
if this happens the lakers get worse so as a celtics fan im all for it
bynum alone is almost as good as howard

Zefflin
02-26-2012, 09:59 PM
giving up both of the twin towers would be so dumb...

shep33
02-26-2012, 10:00 PM
I don't think this gets done. Don't think the Lakers want Turk's deal back.

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 10:00 PM
hopefully it wont happen..

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:01 PM
I think this is a deal that HAS TO BE MADE IF YOUR LAKERS

Now what for Deron Williams? they have to trade him by March 15th!

He will walk this summer for free if they don't.

He will force his way to Lakers.........sign and trade. So what if the Lakers can't sign him to a max deal??? he has already stated he wants to win so HE WILL TAKE A PAYCUT. HE wants to play badly with D12 and then add Kobe with that.......they can win at least 2 championships with that big 3. Then in 3 years when Kobe retires Deron/D12 will own Hollywood.

So essentially the Lakers are trading for Dwight and Deron

shep33
02-26-2012, 10:01 PM
giving up both of the twin towers would be so dumb...

Amen. The Lakers won't do this deal. Not only do they give up both bigs, but they're also taking back Turk's deal while not having a starting PF.

tbone2171
02-26-2012, 10:01 PM
I'd dove Dwight for Live straight up but your and your Uncle are liars. Ninny would never w/o an extentsion so stop frauding

In English, please

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:02 PM
My cousin works for the Magic and said that Otis and Mitch were together for 3 1/2 hours last night...........if it means anything to anyone?

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:04 PM
I can't believe that this deal is happening thursday........crazy!

D12 in L.A makes a lot of sense though....

Kobe and Dwight will be unreal!

Why do you think the Lakers are getting Rasheed Wallace for? they know their getting Dwight........wonder what there gonna offer for Deron Williams when he demands a trade???

shep33
02-26-2012, 10:04 PM
My cousin works for the Magic and said that Otis and Mitch were together for 3 1/2 hours last night...........if it means anything to anyone?

Maybe they were watching the Walking Dead marathon on AMC? Also known as Chris Kaman's highlight reel

ManRam
02-26-2012, 10:07 PM
i don't know if hedo's contract would be the thing that holds it up. if anything does, it's parting with both the big guys (duh)...they can handle hedo's contract, especially since i think he'd actually be an asset for that team.

Mr Costanza
02-26-2012, 10:07 PM
one leg Oden? No Bynum plays....last time I checked he is the 2nd best center in the league.

If you don't like the Laker deal I'd hate to see you react to Dallas or New Jersey package :facepalm:

You can't say he's the second best center when he has only played a full season once in his 7 years in the nba.

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 10:08 PM
I can't believe that this deal is happening thursday........crazy!

D12 in L.A makes a lot of sense though....

Kobe and Dwight will be unreal!

Why do you think the Lakers are getting Rasheed Wallace for? they know their getting Dwight........wonder what there gonna offer for Deron Williams when he demands a trade???

LMAO... hold your horses there man... No way Dwight and Deron is ending up in LA in the future...maybe 3 years from now...but no chance this year or next year and this is coming from a die hard lakers fan...

Dade County
02-26-2012, 10:08 PM
I have a feeling that Howard will be traded by tomorrow...

The Magic will try to convince Howard to pick up his extra year (just like Cp3) so the trade can actually go down.

Mr Costanza
02-26-2012, 10:09 PM
I can't believe that this deal is happening thursday........crazy!

D12 in L.A makes a lot of sense though....

Kobe and Dwight will be unreal!

Why do you think the Lakers are getting Rasheed Wallace for? they know their getting Dwight........wonder what there gonna offer for Deron Williams when he demands a trade???

West coast domefavors anyone?? :D You know you are thinking it.

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:09 PM
You think the Lakers care about Hedo's contract if it means getting D12? They just signed some wild 10 year 200 billion dollar contract......The Lakers will always be top 3 payrols and they don't care about the luxury tax if there winning championships!

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:10 PM
You can't say he's the second best center when he has only played a full season once in his 7 years in the nba.


He is the 2nd best center this season. I CAN SAY THAT

ManRam
02-26-2012, 10:11 PM
honestly, i'll just be relieved when it's settled, either way. we'll know in 3 weeks, at the latest. whether he's traded or not, i'll be happy to just move on.

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:12 PM
LMAO... hold your horses there man... No way Dwight and Deron is ending up in LA in the future...maybe 3 years from now...but no chance this year or next year and this is coming from a die hard lakers fan...


looks like Dwight is a Laker

Tell me a realistic spot that Deron ends up? please don't say Dallas:facepalm:

That team is gonna be crap next year. If Deron says trade me to LA or I walk this summer?

JustinLafferty
02-26-2012, 10:12 PM
As an Orlando fan, I would take this deal as long as we didn't have to give up Ryan Anderson for Calderon. I would also prefer to not give up JJ or JRich either. Perhaps we can send our first this year and/or Dallas first pick to Toronto along with some random contract for Calderon.

Calderon
JJ
JRich/Q
Gasol/Anderson
Bynum/Big Baby

That lineup is pretty solid. Probably equivalent to what we have now maybe better depending on how they gel.

shizzle09
02-26-2012, 10:13 PM
Calderon/reddick/Richardson/Pau/Bynum?

i would become nervous if i was a Heat/Bulls fans, and simply give up if i was a Knicks/Celtics Fan.

Really? Thus makes the lakers worse!!! Give up Gasol and Bynum for Howard? That's not very smart

ManRam
02-26-2012, 10:16 PM
As an Orlando fan, I would take this deal as long as we didn't have to give up Ryan Anderson for Calderon. I would also prefer to not give up JJ or JRich either. Perhaps we can send our first this year and/or Dallas first pick to Toronto along with some random contract for Calderon.

Calderon
JJ
JRich/Q
Gasol/Anderson
Bynum/Big Baby

That lineup is pretty solid. Probably equivalent to what we have now maybe better depending on how they gel.

if it's really just Hedo, Jameer and Dwight OUT and Pau, Calderon and Bynum IN, I could definitely live with it.

Again, I'd love to swing Pau to another team for a few younger pieces, but either way, I can't imagine us getting more value at all...I think it's impossible honestly.

Metsboi69
02-26-2012, 10:18 PM
looks like Dwight is a Laker

Tell me a realistic spot that Deron ends up? please don't say Dallas:facepalm:

That team is gonna be crap next year. If Deron says trade me to LA or I walk this summer?

Do you really think people are taking you seriously?

ManRam
02-26-2012, 10:19 PM
luke, what the hell could LA offer NJ AFTER they make this trade? nothing. they wouldn't have a single asset left...

and he isn't going there in FA agency. getting both howard and deron is nothing short of a pipedream.

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 10:22 PM
This story is BS. it's reports the magic are after Steve nash as we speak! Dwight's mom wants him to stay and the owner&d12 just said HE WILL PLAY OUT THE SEASON- close thread

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 10:24 PM
looks like Dwight is a Laker

Tell me a realistic spot that Deron ends up? please don't say Dallas:facepalm:

That team is gonna be crap next year. If Deron says trade me to LA or I walk this summer?

Looks like? your way getting ahead of your self... its not imminent yet...not even a concrete framework is out like the paul deal... you gotta relax and stop making us LA fans look bad...

Crap? Nowitzki and Deron could go toe to toe with Dwight and kobe... The difference is they have the cap space to sign people..

STop your wet dreams of Deron in LA...aint happening...:facepalm::facepalm:

Metsboi69
02-26-2012, 10:25 PM
This story is BS. it's reports the magic are after Steve nash as we speak! Dwight's mom wants him to stay and the owner&d12 just said HE WILL PLAY OUT THE SEASON- close thread

The all star game is going on as we speak neither party is going to say anything now. Until Dwight says I've rescinded my trade request I still believe they have to move him.

knicksfan42
02-26-2012, 10:25 PM
This story is BS. it's reports the magic are after Steve nash as we speak! Dwight's mom wants him to stay and the owner&d12 just said HE WILL PLAY OUT THE SEASON- close thread

Yep his mother told him Orlando is the best place for him.

Mr Costanza
02-26-2012, 10:25 PM
Forget pacquiao/mayweather, I wanna see luke/domefavors!

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 10:25 PM
luke, what the hell could LA offer NJ AFTER they make this trade? nothing. they wouldn't have a single asset left...

and he isn't going there in FA agency. getting both howard and deron is nothing short of a pipedream.

its best probably to ignore him...lol.

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 10:27 PM
I dont believe this deal at all but I also dont believe Dwight will be with orlando when its done... ITs just stupid for the magic to hang unto him... I want them to get the best possible package and not end up like the cavs...

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 10:27 PM
The Magic are not interested in trading Dwight Howard to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum, according to one source that spoke with Peter Vecsey.

“I can tell you for a fact the Lakers offered Andrew Bynum and the Magic do not want him,” said a Western Conference executive.

Several insiders believe Howard will remain in Orlando for the remainder of the season.

Via Peter Vecsey/New York Post


Read more: http://basketball.******.com/wiretap/219207/Source_Magic_Not_Interested_In_Howard_For_Bynum_Tr ade#ixzz1nXrbYGuh

I just shut down another crap thread. Peter Vecsey is as good as sports reporting gets

The Final Boss
02-26-2012, 10:28 PM
Looks like? your way getting ahead of your self... its not imminent yet...not even a concrete framework is out like the paul deal... you gotta relax and stop making us LA fans look bad...

Crap? Nowitzki and Deron could go toe to toe with Dwight and kobe... The difference is they have the cap space to sign people..

STop your wet dreams of Deron in LA...aint happening...:facepalm::facepalm:

Us LA fans?! No, no, no, playboy... not with that New York avatar.

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:28 PM
Looks like? your way getting ahead of your self... its not imminent yet...not even a concrete framework is out like the paul deal... you gotta relax and stop making us LA fans look bad...

Crap? Nowitzki and Deron could go toe to toe with Dwight and kobe... The difference is they have the cap space to sign people..

STop your wet dreams of Deron in LA...aint happening...:facepalm::facepalm:


listen tool,

its not a wetdream im not a Laker fan.

second, Dirk and Deron couldn't go toe to toe with Kobe and Dwight:facepalm:

Cap space??? the free agent class this summer is awful--lol

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:29 PM
Us LA fans?! No, no, no, playboy... not with that New York avatar.


Sums up that tool

Mr Costanza
02-26-2012, 10:29 PM
This story is BS. it's reports the magic are after Steve nash as we speak! Dwight's mom wants him to stay and the owner&d12 just said HE WILL PLAY OUT THE SEASON- close thread

This is the main thing here! Not what you are saying, but that we are going to keep hearing conflicting reports full of partial truths, inaccuracies, rumors, and completely fabricated lies.

Same day it's reported he will definitely be a laker by weeks end, hes also staying in Orlando to finish out the season.

shep33
02-26-2012, 10:30 PM
This story is BS. it's reports the magic are after Steve nash as we speak! Dwight's mom wants him to stay and the owner&d12 just said HE WILL PLAY OUT THE SEASON- close thread

Hopefully it's true, as a Laker fan I don't want any part of that deal.

Not trading Dwight could be a terrible move for Orlando though. Why not trade him and get rid of Turk, Nelson, Qrich/Baby's deals in the process? Why lose him for nothing?

Cano-Montero...
02-26-2012, 10:30 PM
Us LA fans?! No, no, no, playboy... not with that New York avatar.

You gotta relax playboy.. I dont live in the US and I dont root for the same state reason...lol

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:30 PM
Do you really think people are taking you seriously?


PSD people? Please......



Mets? LOL

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:31 PM
This story is BS. it's reports the magic are after Steve nash as we speak! Dwight's mom wants him to stay and the owner&d12 just said HE WILL PLAY OUT THE SEASON- close thread


He never said he will play out the season.....His mom?? LOL

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 10:32 PM
Hopefully it's true, as a Laker fan I don't want any part of that deal.

Not trading Dwight could be a terrible move for Orlando though. Why not trade him and get rid of Turk, Nelson, Qrich/Baby's deals in the process? Why lose him for nothing?

It's the best move bc as long as Dallas is out there ,we have BK by the nuts and can trade Dwight draft night. Bk's lotto pick will just get better

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:34 PM
I just shut down another crap thread. Peter Vecsey is as good as sports reporting gets



The only thing that is crap are your posts my friend. If it is bogus why you still on here????

That Peter Vecsey report is from last night......that was the Lakers first offer Bynum for D12 straight up! this is a NEW OFFER.


I know I know being a Orlando fan and seeing another great center go to L.A hurts.....it's like getting a container of salt poured in that Shaq cut tha is ALMOST HEALED.

LAKERMANIA
02-26-2012, 10:35 PM
I dont mind this trade, we solve our PG woes (I dont understand why people think Jameer Nelson is that bad..) we solve our SF problems even though I was never a fan of Turkoglu AND we get Dwight Howard..

On top of this, maybe try to get a PF for the TPE and I like our chances again..

Once again as Laker fans we have to look for the future, and acquiring Howard is the best thing we could do right now..

Redskins10
02-26-2012, 10:35 PM
This is the best offer Orlando could receive and the worst offer LA could make. I don't see why they'd want to acquire Jameer (whose been playing awful this year) and Turk (whose a flat out terrible player with an even worse contract).

bklynny67
02-26-2012, 10:36 PM
looks like Dwight is a Laker

Tell me a realistic spot that Deron ends up? please don't say Dallas:facepalm:

That team is gonna be crap next year. If Deron says trade me to LA or I walk this summer?

LOLLLLLLLLLLLL how is he already a Laker?? :facepalm:

Because of a rumor and your cousin says ORL talked for 3 hours with LA? They probably have talked for 3 hours with multiple other teams too.

Again... :facepalm:

Metsboi69
02-26-2012, 10:36 PM
It's the best move bc as long as Dallas is out there ,we have BK by the nuts and can trade Dwight draft night. Bk's lotto pick will just get better

I'm pretty sure there is no longer sign and trades allowed based on the new collective bargaining agreement.

ichitownclowni
02-26-2012, 10:36 PM
I could see it

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:37 PM
This is the best offer Orlando could receive and the worst offer LA could make.


I agree but Deron also is following D12 (whether it's New Jersey,Dallas or L.A) so essentially it might land Deron as well......then Laker fans forgot the names Bynum and Gasol REAL QUICK

Cal827
02-26-2012, 10:38 PM
As a Raptor fan, all I'm gonna say is WTF are we doing in the deal. Colangelo better not deal out that first for the lulz :mad:.... I guess we probably would get Orlando's first in the deal. Surprised that we wouldn't have to absorb a contract in the three team.

Metsboi69
02-26-2012, 10:38 PM
I agree but Deron also is following D12 (whether it's New Jersey,Dallas or L.A) so essentially it might land Deron as well......then Laker fans forgot the names Bynum and Gasol REAL QUICK

Don't you see how that is impossible holy ****. Explain to me how after this horrible trade the Lakers would be able to get D will.

shep33
02-26-2012, 10:40 PM
It's the best move bc as long as Dallas is out there ,we have BK by the nuts and can trade Dwight draft night. Bk's lotto pick will just get better

See I dunno man. The longer the Magic wait, the more time players have to think....and discuss possible scenarios. I will 100% guarantee that Deron or Prokerov will somehow get their message across to D12. I wouldn't take my chances waiting. Trade him to the Nets, or anywhere and get rid of as many bad deals as you can.

MagicBucsSox
02-26-2012, 10:43 PM
I'm pretty sure there is no longer sign and trades allowed based on the new collective bargaining agreement.

No one said S&t bro

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 10:43 PM
All I know if that if the Lakers trade Bynum AND Gasol....WITH a pair of 1st round picks...AND they are willing to take Nelson and Turkoglu contracts off of Orlando's hands...(and then eventually get Calderon from the Raps)


If You're the Orlando Magic owner and Otis Smith...how do you not do this deal?

Bruno
02-26-2012, 10:44 PM
honestly, i'll just be relieved when it's settled, either way. we'll know in 3 weeks, at the latest. whether he's traded or not, i'll be happy to just move on.

dude, what sucks is that Howard could pick up on his option, and all the same drama could just get push to next year :facepalm:

but i'm right there with ya.

ManRam
02-26-2012, 10:46 PM
All I know if that if the Lakers trade Bynum AND Gasol....WITH a pair of 1st round picks...AND they are willing to take Nelson and Turkoglu contracts off of Orlando's hands...(and then eventually get Calderon from the Raps)


If You're the Orlando Magic owner and Otis Smith...how do you not do this deal?

you don't do it if you seriously think you can keep him...and i genuinely think they feel that way. dwight is emotionally fickle. you catch him on the right day and you probably can sway him. i think the main reason why he's had so many weird sound bites this year is because he just doesn't know what he wants...

i genuinely think he wants to stay in orlando, but he also just wants an easy way to win...and knows he can't win on his own. he also wants to be liked...a lot.

Bruno
02-26-2012, 10:50 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=87f4qqc

this is what I want. give Toronto LALs first round pick from Dallas, give Orlando LALs first round pick, and give the Lamar Odom T.E. to whoever hold outs.

LAL
PG: Calderon
SG: Bryant
SF: Barnes
PF: Anderson
C: Howard

Orlando
PG: Nelson
SG: Reddick
SF: Richardson
PF: Gasol
C: Bynum

Toronto loses Calderon and take on Turks contract but the get the LAL T.E. and a first rounder from LAL, and a first rounder from Orlando? if toronto holds out give em one of the rookies, or ebanks, or matt barnes on the cheap?

Am I a total idiot for this one?

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-26-2012, 10:53 PM
you don't do it if you seriously think you can keep him...and i genuinely think they feel that way. dwight is emotionally fickle. you catch him on the right day and you probably can sway him. i think the main reason why he's had so many weird sound bites this year is because he just doesn't know what he wants...

i genuinely think he wants to stay in orlando, but he also just wants an easy way to win...and knows he can't win on his own. he also wants to be liked...a lot.

He won't be hated "as much" and won't be regarded like Shaq if the Lakers have to gut out their 2x championship front court of Bynum and Gasol to get him.

Shaq left for free, Howard will leave but net Gasol and Bynum. Atleast Dwight will be giving Otis something to be working with for the now and future.


We all know Dwight's 1st thing is to play wherever D-Will is (which happens to be in a big market in Brooklyn, NY), but after that it's with Kobe and the Lakeshow (LA's market).

My feeling is that his days in Orlando are limited unless they legitimately defeat the Heat or Bulls in the East and get to the finals this year.

thedfactor
02-26-2012, 10:54 PM
Do it!!

luke21
02-26-2012, 10:56 PM
Don't you see how that is impossible holy ****. Explain to me how after this horrible trade the Lakers would be able to get D will.




Thru free agency this summer.


Lakers just signed a 10 year 200 billion dollar t.v deal

They could care less if they go over the cap---they will pay that luxury tax no problem if that means (Kobe,D12,Dwill)

Its gonna be the big new 3!

Oh yeah why would Deron go to Dallas when D12 is in L.A? to play with Dirk? LOL!!!!! Dirk got a couple years left at best.

He can win a couple titles with Kobe, then when the Kobe retires him and D12 can run Hollywood for a good 5 years.

Gritz
02-26-2012, 10:57 PM
Trolling :)

broncosfan4eva
02-26-2012, 10:57 PM
I would be fine with this trade

Metsboi69
02-26-2012, 10:57 PM
Thru free agency this summer.


Lakers just signed a 10 year 200 billion dollar t.v deal

They could care less if they go over the cap---they will pay that luxury tax no problem if that means (Kobe,D12,Dwill)

Its gonna be the big new 3!

Oh yeah why would Deron go to Dallas when D12 is in L.A? to play with Dirk? LOL!!!!! Dirk got a couple years left at best.

He can win a couple titles with Kobe, then when the Kobe retires him and D12 can run Hollywood for a good 5 years.

Free agency? The Lakers have no cap room, this aint baseball.