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Whole8
02-20-2012, 10:25 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/37357/lakers-like-beasley

https://twitter.com/#!/beastlyBLVD/status/171059454417174528

^Pretty good source, dont take his account name and Beasley to be any connection, hes one of the best NBA sources to follow and happens to be a beasley fan

anyway, guess since espn is reporting this as well, a beasely, and filler for gasol might be in the works

as for the bulls, i dont understand the attraction to him and dont know what they would have to give minny to get him

Bruno
02-20-2012, 10:26 PM
For LA, he is not the answer at the three. if he fills Paus shoes in an effort to land a PG, or pull the trigger for another bigger trade, okay.

Fnom11
02-20-2012, 10:31 PM
Gigantic upgrade over MWP. I think the dude is going to surprised a bunch of people if he gets the perfect opportunity.

C-Style
02-20-2012, 10:33 PM
Depends what offer Lakers have on the table. IF Lakers can bring Sessions & Beasley, that would be great!

Sessions
Bryant
Beasley
Gasol
Bynum

topdog
02-20-2012, 10:36 PM
Please! Please! Please! :pray:

Sinestro
02-20-2012, 10:43 PM
Brings more offense to the Bulls although I doubt we have anything that the Timberwolves want

Lakeshow24KB
02-20-2012, 10:44 PM
If he comes to LA I hope he respects his role and doesn't chuck up random shots.

Ovratd1up
02-20-2012, 10:52 PM
Awful, just downright awful fit on the Bulls.

Raps18-19 Champ
02-20-2012, 10:56 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88e57ku

Jenceman
02-20-2012, 10:58 PM
For what, Gasol? Ew

Gritz
02-20-2012, 11:01 PM
Yet another player that wouldn't listen to potato head

dannyh1469
02-20-2012, 11:13 PM
Gasol for Williams and beasly?

chris34
02-20-2012, 11:14 PM
No No No No NO NO for the Bulls. Terrible mismatch for our team dynamic. We want hard workers who care about the team first and Boozer already fills the 1 exemption slot.

kozelkid
02-20-2012, 11:15 PM
Awful, just downright awful fit on the Bulls.

Especially midseason.

This guy sucks hard and Bulls don't have time to babysit his *** at this point.

MTL_123
02-20-2012, 11:21 PM
especially midseason.

This guy sucks hard and bulls don't have time to babysit his *** at this point.

+1

Lake_Show2416
02-20-2012, 11:23 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88e57ku

Pau isn't going anywhere unless the Lakers get a great player in return

97NYer
02-20-2012, 11:23 PM
What do the Lakers have to offer? Pau for Beasley would be an awful trade and the Lakers would have to take on bad contracts to make it work.

Sinestro
02-20-2012, 11:25 PM
I don't think either team has much to offer nor would they isn't he a restricted FA this season?

AceMan
02-20-2012, 11:26 PM
Makes a lot more sense for the Lakers, the Bulls are built on chemistry and defense, not exactly Beasley staples.

NYKnicks4511
02-20-2012, 11:26 PM
Beas would be a good fit on the Bulls, problem is that he's a tweener with little to no defensive commitment. But boy would he complement Rose's game.

Jint.
02-20-2012, 11:27 PM
Beasley > Ron World Peace

JOhnnyTHaJet
02-20-2012, 11:29 PM
He'd be solid at the 3 for the Lakers, dont see him as a good fit with the Bulls to be honest.

Not sure how the trade would work out, probably would have to get a third team involved.

HouRealCoach
02-20-2012, 11:30 PM
With the emergence of Pekovic minny dont need or want Pau lol

soundjunkies2
02-20-2012, 11:32 PM
It makes sense the for Lakers. They need offense and well, Beasley likes to shoot.

gotoHcarolina52
02-20-2012, 11:33 PM
:puke:

Big Zo
02-20-2012, 11:33 PM
Please go to the Bulls! :pray:

OA SLAY
02-20-2012, 11:35 PM
Pau for Dwight in some way, shape or form after allstar break!
I dont see how this wont happen unless Otis just lets him walk.

dannyh1469
02-20-2012, 11:35 PM
With the emergence of Pekovic minny dont need or want Pau lol

Pekovich is not even on gasol's level

Bulls_fan90
02-20-2012, 11:40 PM
Future scoring champ and MVP!!

shep33
02-20-2012, 11:43 PM
He'd be solid at the 3 for the Lakers, dont see him as a good fit with the Bulls to be honest.

Not sure how the trade would work out, probably would have to get a third team involved.

Yeah agree with this. As a Laker fan we have the worst starting pg and sf offensively, and our bench is the worst in the NBA (scoring wise), so he couldn't hurt.

Marlin234
02-20-2012, 11:44 PM
L.A has good Kush.. That's where he is going.

northsider
02-20-2012, 11:45 PM
Would be funny though to have the guy people said "we will regret taking Rose over".

ManRam
02-20-2012, 11:50 PM
him going to chicago would be classic.

remember the good ol' days on psd when few things were hated more than beasley by bulls fans?


i think he'd be ok in LA...not sure about chicago. chicago could use some offense, so maybe. they just couldn't afford to give up anything much (doubt minny would want boozer or noah, and no way they move deng...soo yeah)

LakersSaintsLSU
02-20-2012, 11:53 PM
pau stays a laker!!!!!!hopefully....i love this guy

dnewguy
02-20-2012, 11:55 PM
They can have him.

Tmath
02-20-2012, 11:56 PM
To Raptors: P.Gasol

To: Lakers: J.Calderon & M.Beasley

To: T'Wolves: L.Barbosa

LakersSaintsLSU
02-20-2012, 11:58 PM
To Raptors: P.Gasol

To: Lakers: J.Calderon & M.Beasley

To: T'Wolves: L.Barbosa

:facepalm:
for pau man please!!!!

Master Mind
02-20-2012, 11:59 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88e57ku

Rape

shep33
02-21-2012, 12:00 AM
To Raptors: P.Gasol

To: Lakers: J.Calderon & M.Beasley

To: T'Wolves: L.Barbosa

That's horrendous for the Wolves and Lakers

Master Mind
02-21-2012, 12:02 AM
Beasley > Ron World Peace

Definitely. Metta Artest stinks

Tmath
02-21-2012, 12:10 AM
That's horrendous for the Wolves and Lakers

Minni needs a SG & Lakers need a PG & SF :shrug:

shep33
02-21-2012, 12:15 AM
Minni needs a SG & Lakers need a PG & SF :shrug:

Yeah, but realistically Barbosa and Calderon's value isn't enough to net an all-star PF.

Dade County
02-21-2012, 12:28 AM
The boy Beasley gets no respect... he will prove everyone wrong about him.

OutOfTHEBLUE
02-21-2012, 12:55 AM
Personally I'd love to have Beasley with the Lakers. If PG wasn't such a glaring weakness then we'd be talking about the terrible production we've gotten from the SF spot.

No to Pau for Beasley + a mediocre PG, though. Pau should only be traded for another all-star caliber PG.

Lakers + Giants
02-21-2012, 12:56 AM
Beasley joining forces with Drew the guy who cheap shot him! LMAO

D1JM
02-21-2012, 12:58 AM
him going to chicago would be classic.

remember the good ol' days on psd when few things were hated more than beasley by bulls fans?


i think he'd be ok in LA...not sure about chicago. chicago could use some offense, so maybe. they just couldn't afford to give up anything much (doubt minny would want boozer or noah, and no way they move deng...soo yeah)

why would we trade them for beasley?

Pierzynski4Prez
02-21-2012, 01:01 AM
Personally I'd love to have Beasley with the Lakers. If PG wasn't such a glaring weakness then we'd be talking about the terrible production we've gotten from the SF spot.

No to Pau for Beasley + a mediocre PG, though. Pau should only be traded for another all-star caliber PG.

A PG that is also going to be roughly 32 this year as well and also that is owed 38 million over the next 2 seasons on top of publicly been put on the trading block. Good luck with that.

Hellcrooner
02-21-2012, 01:21 AM
barea+beasley+ d will for pau, makes the most sense suposeddly maybe add milicic and force the wolves to eat ron artest.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-21-2012, 02:33 AM
Broussard said that the Lakers can use their TPE to absorb Beasley's contract and possibly give them a future 1st round pick.

I'd say if Minnesota wants something back, give them Walton, Ebanks, Morris and a first round pick.

MDD
02-21-2012, 07:09 AM
Add Content

jp611
02-21-2012, 08:42 AM
Garpax aren't stupid

thekmp211
02-21-2012, 09:15 AM
barea+beasley+ d will for pau, makes the most sense suposeddly maybe add milicic and force the wolves to eat ron artest.

doubt they trade both of those guys. beas + darko + ridnour for pau straight up is a good deal for minny. don't know if the lakers get a good deal unless they trade for dwight.

Mcdoh
02-21-2012, 09:35 AM
if its for pau it would work unless love or rubio is added but i think minny wont allow that.. but if pau for beastly and williams then no thank you..

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 09:47 AM
Bad fit anywhere, i use to be a huge beasley fan, but he does not play winning basketball. He would not doubt make either team he goes to worse. By all means, get him bulls lol

Doubt minny wants anything for beasley, probably just looking to give him away like the heat did.

4wanderingeyes
02-21-2012, 10:09 AM
Minnesota doesnt want Pau, nor do they need him. They need a wing man. Beasely+Ridnour/Barea/Wes Johnson for a decent SG/SF will be the only trade they will make.

Chinoeyes
02-21-2012, 10:26 AM
Minny values Pau's experience more than anything... they have darko, pekovic, randolph, love and williams... who are all young and have no playoff edge....

Should this trade go through... a package of beasley, 1 pg (barrea or ridnour), 1 big man (williams/pekovic/randolph) and maybe a pick (depends on fillers) could be sent to Lakers for Pau + fillers.

Lakers may roll some of this assets then to fill their 4 spot or improve their chances on dwight.

Chinoeyes
02-21-2012, 10:33 AM
If minny can no longer handle beasley's antics, can just send him packing to LA for a pick.

Broussard is correct "Lakers could absorb Beasley into their $8.9 million trade exception while giving up a draft pick or cash."

I really wish this happens cause I dont want to lakers to lose gasol without getting an all-star caliber player in return.

LAKobeBryant
02-21-2012, 10:51 AM
He has good defence and is a much better shooter than Barnes and MWP

mgsports
02-21-2012, 11:15 AM
To Wolves- Gasol/Duhon/Redick +5wins
To Lakers- Millcic/Williams/Ridmour/Orton -4wins
To Magic- Beasley/Miller -1wins

gotoHcarolina52
02-21-2012, 11:22 AM
Beasley is one of the dumbest players in the game. I was about to call him the dumbest, but then I remembered this (http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Javale+Mcgee+Las+Vegas+Premiere+Warner+Bros+3ofat2 i7emvl.jpg) guy.

Team*Chicago
02-21-2012, 11:25 AM
No way in hell he makes his way to the Bulls unless it's only for an 2nd round pick. The FO isn't no where near stupid enough to try to aquire Michael Beasley that was an bust for the cryami heat.

chi-townlove1
02-21-2012, 11:43 AM
As op state. Shoulda consider this as a filler for a pau to Chicago deal..

Hawkeye15
02-21-2012, 11:55 AM
as a Wolves fan, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE happen! Anything for that chucker who doesn't understand basketball at a 1st grade level.

BullsBearsSox11
02-21-2012, 11:55 AM
How about this?

Chicago: Pau Gasol
Minny: Charlotte pick
Lakers: Boozer, CJwatson, Beasly

How would that work?

4wanderingeyes
02-21-2012, 11:58 AM
I dont know if Minnesota needs more picks/youth. They need someone who can shoot from the perimeter, and play some D.

Hawkeye15
02-21-2012, 11:58 AM
How about this?

Chicago: Pau Gasol
Minny: Charlotte pick
Lakers: Boozer, CJwatson, Beasly

How would that work?

even thought that pick is at least 3 years away, at this point Wolves fans would take anything for Beasley.

TrueFan420
02-21-2012, 01:00 PM
How about this?

Chicago: Pau Gasol
Minny: Charlotte pick
Lakers: Boozer, CJwatson, Beasly

How would that work?

i think the bulls give up just a little too much.. even tho that pick is some time off its gonna be a high one... id say take cj out for the bulls and it look like a soild trade for all teams involved.

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 01:14 PM
How about this?

Chicago: Pau Gasol
Minny: Charlotte pick
Lakers: Boozer, CJwatson, Beasly

How would that work?

i was thinking something along these lines...

maybe:

Chciago: Pau Gasol
Minny: Jimmy Butler
Lakers: Boozer, CJ, Beas...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7wy6oyl

Jimmy isn't as talented as beasly offensively, but he's a better defender and IMO has a good understanding of the game... it gives minny something immediate as well.. maybe throw in the bulls 2012 pick too.. should be around 30th overall pick...

clehmun
02-21-2012, 01:27 PM
If Lakers get Beasley, he'll be the 6th man trying to fit into Odom's role. He's someone without a true position, but can excel off the bench.

Pierzynski4Prez
02-21-2012, 01:35 PM
i was thinking something along these lines...

maybe:

Chciago: Pau Gasol
Minny: Jimmy Butler
Lakers: Boozer, CJ, Beas...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7wy6oyl

Jimmy isn't as talented as beasly offensively, but he's a better defender and IMO has a good understanding of the game... it gives minny something immediate as well.. maybe throw in the bulls 2012 pick too.. should be around 30th overall pick...

I like it.

topdog
02-21-2012, 01:38 PM
It most likely will be a small deal if it happens. Beasley to LA for a 1st rounder would still be a winning move for the Wolves considering they gave up 2 2nd rounders to get him in the 1st place.

BullsBearsSox11
02-21-2012, 01:39 PM
i think the bulls give up just a little too much.. even tho that pick is some time off its gonna be a high one... id say take cj out for the bulls and it look like a soild trade for all teams involved.

Im a Bulls fan 100% but you gotta give up alot to get what you want CJ will be playing 5 minutes a game maybe 10 come playoff time. Just think how good our D would be with Gasol plus he is a 7 footer. I'm all for it!!

ManRam
02-21-2012, 01:39 PM
why would we trade them for beasley?

you wouldn't. didn't mean to sound like it made sense for chicago either...

Kaspa
02-21-2012, 01:45 PM
How about this?

Chicago: Pau Gasol
Minny: Charlotte pick
Lakers: Boozer, CJwatson, Beasly

How would that work?

Doesn't work for the Lakers at all....BRUTAL! Boozer is a bum and Watson is too! **** that!!!

gotoHcarolina52
02-21-2012, 01:46 PM
Carlos Boozer is a Bull for life.

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 01:49 PM
I like it.

it's really the only way i can see chicago asking about beasly... we already have deng and he doesn't fit our team at all...

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 01:50 PM
Carlos Boozer is a Bull for life.

u hope...

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 01:51 PM
No one is touching boozers contract. He needs an all star PG to get the most out of him, last time i checked lakers dont have one. Boozer will be a bull until his contract is over.


Now, beasley fitting into that lakers tpe is low risk. Probably worth doing, but not going to put the lakers over the top. Lakers will probably call houston at the deadline.

Kaspa
02-21-2012, 01:51 PM
Ohh wait, I have an idea....Chicago gives us Rose for Luke Walton & Josh McRoberts...how does that work???

For those of you that are too stupid to understand that was sarcasm (it was)

Seriously though...pull your heads out of your assses before you throw out trade ideas that only bennifit your team! At least attempt to be realisitc.

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 01:53 PM
Doesn't work for the Lakers at all....BRUTAL! Boozer is a bum and Watson is too! **** that!!!

i don't know why that doesn't work for LA... a downgrade at PF and upgrade at PG... gasol isn't getting along with kobe... blake isn't living up to his expectations... boozer is great friends with d12 (not enough to get d12 to chicago, but maybe enough to get him to LA)... beasly could be a spark off the bench....

btw, how did that odom trade work for the lakers??

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 01:55 PM
No one is touching boozers contract. He needs an all star PG to get the most out of him, last time i checked lakers dont have one. Boozer will be a bull until his contract is over.


Now, beasley fitting into that lakers tpe is low risk. Probably worth doing, but not going to put the lakers over the top. Lakers will probably call houston at the deadline.

bulls could move boozer, regardless of how many heat fans hope they won't...

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 01:57 PM
Ohh wait, I have an idea....Chicago gives us Rose for Luke Walton & Josh McRoberts...how does that work???

For those of you that are too stupid to understand that was sarcasm (it was)

Seriously though...pull your heads out of your assses before you throw out trade ideas that only bennifit your team! At least attempt to be realisitc.

sorry, i forgot the lakers are the only team that can make trades that only benefit their team... my bad...

Kaspa
02-21-2012, 01:59 PM
sorry, i forgot the lakers are the only team that can make trades that only benefit their team... my bad...

Not at all...not what I said.

And I know some Laker fans are like that...but I'm not one of them.

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 02:00 PM
bulls could move boozer, regardless of how many heat fans hope they won't...

Your right, they can move him, but i doubt he nets you guys a better player.

Kaspa
02-21-2012, 02:03 PM
i don't know why that doesn't work for LA... a downgrade at PF and upgrade at PG... gasol isn't getting along with kobe... blake isn't living up to his expectations... boozer is great friends with d12 (not enough to get d12 to chicago, but maybe enough to get him to LA)... beasly could be a spark off the bench....

btw, how did that odom trade work for the lakers??

I can see you don't know much about the Lakers...

Kobe and Pau get along fine, and the Lakers are looking for more of an elite pg for Pau...not an overpaid bum in Boozer or an overrated bum in Watson.

Sorry, it just isn't making us any better to give away one of the best big men in the NBA for the garbage that Bulls fans want to get rid of.

Also until we use the TPE we don't know how the Odom trade worked out, but if you understand how terrible Odom has been for Dallas this season and use that as a measuring point...we're not missing out on much.

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 02:03 PM
Not at all...not what I said.

And I know some Laker fans are like that...but I'm not one of them.

well, then how can you say that trade is unrealistic??? a past all star for a past all star + 2 average / above average players... boozer saves the lakers 6 mil in salary (more when you account for the lakers being in the luxury)... they seem to be interested in beasly...

willabeast77
02-21-2012, 02:04 PM
Beasley is a disappointment. He isn't the player he used to be and him going on the Bulls or Lakers would ruin his career

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 02:08 PM
I can see you don't know much about the Lakers...

Kobe and Pau get along fine, and the Lakers are looking for more of an elite pg for Pau...not an overpaid bum in Boozer or an overrated bum in Watson.

Sorry, it just isn't making us any better to give away one of the best big men in the NBA for the garbage that Bulls fans want to get rid of.

the lakers are the ones shopping pau... the bulls aren't aggressively trying to make a trade... the lakers are... if pau wants to be traded, and his play is suffering in LA because of it, then the lakers will not get equal return for him... what ELITE pg is pau going to get LA?? none... this trade upgrades their pg position while relatively maintaining their PF position...

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 02:09 PM
Beasley is a disappointment. He isn't the player he used to be and him going on the Bulls or Lakers would ruin his career

:confused: huh? his career is already in the toilet, more like what ever team he goes to will suffer with him on the court, he's a poor mans melo

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 02:10 PM
Your right, they can move him, but i doubt he nets you guys a better player.

me too... but it is possible... that's all i'm saying...

Gibby23
02-21-2012, 02:11 PM
the lakers are the ones shopping pau... the bulls aren't aggressively trying to make a trade... the lakers are... if pau wants to be traded, and his play is suffering in LA because of it, then the lakers will not get equal return for him... what ELITE pg is pau going to get LA?? none... this trade upgrades their pg position while relatively maintaining their PF position...

They are not shopping him for Boozer. Even with the rumors, Pau is playing than Boozer.

gotoHcarolina52
02-21-2012, 02:11 PM
bulls could amnesty boozer, regardless of how many heat fans hope they won't...

Fixed that for you.

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 02:12 PM
the lakers are the ones shopping pau... the bulls aren't aggressively trying to make a trade... the lakers are... if pau wants to be traded, and his play is suffering in LA because of it, then the lakers will not get equal return for him... what ELITE pg is pau going to get LA?? none... this trade upgrades their pg position while relatively maintaining their PF position...

The lakers arent trying to give pau away lol, they still want to be contenders. Boozer is not on the same level as pau, they would lose a lot downgrading from pay to booz especially in the playoffs. and watson is not the pass first pg they need, he's a chucker, a decent chucker, but a chucker none the less.

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 02:13 PM
Fixed that for you.

if they can't move him in a year or two, i would imagine they will...

Kaspa
02-21-2012, 02:16 PM
:horse:

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 02:18 PM
The lakers arent trying to give pau away lol, they still want to be contenders. Boozer is not on the same level as pau, they would lose a lot downgrading from pay to booz especially in the playoffs. and watson is not the pass first pg they need, he's a chucker, a decent chucker, but a chucker none the less.

giving him away??? they are getting 3 for 1... we know booz isn't as good as pau, that kind of why bulls fans want this trade... but i don't think the lakers lose as much as you would like to think...

watson is better than fisher and blake, so the lakers are getting someone they need and could use... the lakers need offense, and cj, booz, and beasly can provide that... they would lose defense, but they might be willing to..

Gibby23
02-21-2012, 02:22 PM
giving him away??? they are getting 3 for 1... we know booz isn't as good as pau, that kind of why bulls fans want this trade... but i don't think the lakers lose as much as you would like to think...

watson is better than fisher and blake, so the lakers are getting someone they need and could use... the lakers need offense, and cj, booz, and beasly can provide that... they would lose defense, but they might be willing to..

The wolves would trade Beasly for a 1st and the lakers can take his contract with the TPE and then they can also get sessions for a 1st round pick and another player or 2. Sessions is better than Watson and it isn't going to take Gasol to get either one.

RyBayBay
02-21-2012, 03:35 PM
Beasley is a talent!... but a dumbass that doesnt realize it..

ill be happy to get Ronnie Brewer out of the deal..

Pau Gasol? sign me up please.

the Wolves would have the best front court in the league..

Love, Pekovic, Gasol.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-21-2012, 03:36 PM
Beasley is a talent!... but a dumbass that doesnt realize it..

ill be happy to get Ronnie Brewer out of the deal..

Pau Gasol? sign me up please.

the Wolves would have the best front court in the league..

Love, Pekovic, Gasol.

Why would we give up Gasol for Beasley when we can just use our TPE and a 1st rounder to get him?

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 03:47 PM
The wolves would trade Beasly for a 1st and the lakers can take his contract with the TPE and then they can also get sessions for a 1st round pick and another player or 2. Sessions is better than Watson and it isn't going to take Gasol to get either one.

All good points. sessions is def better than watson.

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:00 PM
LOL at the kids who think + wins on trade machine = good trade. No one wants Boozer and his massive contract, he has no value. The only thing you might get in return in Joe Johnson; a overpaid trash for another. The Bulls have nothing the Lakers want except Deng and Rose.

BullsBearsSox11
02-21-2012, 04:00 PM
Gasol Boozer

PPG 16.6 15.6
RPG 10.7 8.3
APG 3.1 1.7
SPG 0.5 1.0
BPG 1.3 0.4
FG% 49 53
FT% 80 70
3pt% 21 0
MIN 37 30
EFF +22 +19

Gasol is better by a hair when it comes to offense, the only reason bulls want him is because of his defense.

Contracts
Boozer 3 more years at 47.1
Gasol 2 more years at 38.3

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:03 PM
giving him away??? they are getting 3 for 1... we know booz isn't as good as pau, that kind of why bulls fans want this trade... but i don't think the lakers lose as much as you would like to think...

watson is better than fisher and blake, so the lakers are getting someone they need and could use... the lakers need offense, and cj, booz, and beasly can provide that... they would lose defense, but they might be willing to..

Lakers offer Luke Walton, Josh McRoberts, Jason Kapono, Metta World Peace, Darius Morris and Derek Fisher for Derrick Rose. That's 6 for 1, according to you quantity matters right? Your trade is so bad yet you're so clueless. :laugh:

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-21-2012, 04:04 PM
Gasol Boozer

PPG 16.6 15.6
RPG 10.7 8.3
APG 3.1 1.7
SPG 0.5 1.0
BPG 1.3 0.4
FG% 49 53
FT% 80 70
3pt% 21 0
MIN 37 30
EFF +22 +19

Gasol is better by a hair when it comes to offense, the only reason bulls want him is because of his defense.

Contracts
Boozer 3 more years at 47.1
Gasol 2 more years at 38.3


At the end of the day, Carlos Boozer is garbage. All day. Everyday. Pau owned him time after time after time in the playoffs. Hell, even Lamar Odom owned him in the playoffs. He's an overrated talent and that's one of the few horrendous free agent signings that this Bulls organization has made in recent years.

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:07 PM
Gasol Boozer

PPG 16.6 15.6
RPG 10.7 8.3
APG 3.1 1.7
SPG 0.5 1.0
BPG 1.3 0.4
FG% 49 53
FT% 80 70
3pt% 21 0
MIN 37 30
EFF +22 +19

Gasol is better by a hair when it comes to offense, the only reason bulls want him is because of his defense.

Contracts
Boozer 3 more years at 47.1
Gasol 2 more years at 38.3

:facepalm: If he's so good, keep him. 7 foot can that dribble and pass yet he's only "a hair" better than Boozer...

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:09 PM
At the end of the day, Carlos Boozer is garbage. All day. Everyday. Pau owned him time after time after time in the playoffs. Hell, even Lamar Odom owned him in the playoffs. He's an overrated talent and that's one of the few horrendous free agent signings that this Bulls organization has made in recent years.

Bull fans are very annoying. Their team has very little assets so every trade proposal they make, rapes the other team.

smith&wesson
02-21-2012, 04:19 PM
so its beasly and ???? for gasol ? the ??? is kind of important isnt it ? i would imagine gasols trade value to be alot more then just beasly and a filler. the lakers can do better then that for gasol.

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:21 PM
so its beasly and ???? for gasol ? the ??? is kind of important isnt it ? i would imaging gasols trade value to be alot more then just beasly and a filler. the lakers can do better then that for gasol.

Broussard said something like TPE + 1st round pick... For some reason, Bull fans decided to include Pau Gasol. This trade doesn't even involve them.

BullsBearsSox11
02-21-2012, 04:21 PM
Bull fans are very annoying. Their team has very little assets so every trade proposal they make, rapes the other team.

:D Yep very annoying, In my eyes and quite a few NON Lakers Fans that is a good deal.

Shmontaine
02-21-2012, 04:22 PM
Lakers offer Luke Walton, Josh McRoberts, Jason Kapono, Metta World Peace, Darius Morris and Derek Fisher for Derrick Rose. That's 6 for 1, according to you quantity matters right? Your trade is so bad yet you're so clueless. :laugh:

yeah... i'm clueless... and your the smartest guy here...

BullsBearsSox11
02-21-2012, 04:25 PM
Bull fans are very annoying. Their team has very little assets so every trade proposal they make, rapes the other team.

Bulls have no assets yet we have the deepest bench in the league and almost every 2nd player is starter material.

GET A CLUE!!! SMARTGUY

Watson
Brewer
Korver 6thman NO ASSETS HAHAHA
Taj
Asik

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:28 PM
:D Yep very annoying, In my eyes and quite a few NON Lakers Fans that is a good deal.

The only people who agreed with you are Bull fans. Answer this question, why would the Lakers trade a PF that create his own shot to a PF that is defensively worse and needs a PG to create for him on the offensive end? When the Lakers have the worst pg in the game and your answer is CJ Watson..a career 2.5 assist a game. How is this beneficial to the Lakers in anyway?

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:30 PM
Bulls have no assets yet we have the deepest bench in the league and almost every 2nd player is starter material.

GET A CLUE!!! SMARTGUY

Watson
Brewer
Korver 6thman NO ASSETS HAHAHA
Taj
Asik

They are role players... good for you?

BullsBearsSox11
02-21-2012, 04:38 PM
The only people who agreed with you are Bull fans. Answer this question, why would the Lakers trade a PF that create his own shot to a PF that is defensively worse and needs a PG to create for him on the offensive end? When the Lakers have the worst pg in the game and your answer is CJ Watson..a career 2.5 assist a game. How is this beneficial to the Lakers in anyway?

BC you are a lakers fan and I watch every bulls game unlike you, CJ has had multiple games with double assist to be honest averaging 10 ppg and is a back up with low minutes!! He is really starter material and has matured over the last 2 season. If he played 35MPG those numbers would be alot higher. No one is trying to rape anyone we are all playing GM here.

My thought simply IF the Lakers are going to trade Gasol they still need a PG:Watson which is better then Blake and Fisher and quite young.
Still need a Replacement PF which is why i suggested Boozer bc of the Similar numbers...we know gasol is better!! and a SF Beasley young talented player that can create.

Thats all but like I said Watson is a starting PG stuck behind DROSE.

Vincent
02-21-2012, 04:45 PM
CJ Watson really isn't that good, but probably is better than Steve Blake.
Boozer is underrated, but isn't on the level of Pau Gasol.

I don't know why the Lakers would do such a trade unless it was a move just to get rid of Pau.

Also dunno how this turned into Pau Gasol trade ideas. I thought this was about Michael Beasley.

Beasley would be a nice scoring option off the bench. But he's to erratic at the SF, and doesn't play well enough on Defense to play the PF.

Minny seriously has the true definition of "tweeners" at pretty much every position on their team.

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:47 PM
BC you are a lakers fan and I watch every bulls game unlike you, CJ has had multiple games with double assist to be honest averaging 10 ppg and is a back up with low minutes!! He is really starter material and has matured over the last 2 season. If he played 35MPG those numbers would be alot higher. No one is trying to rape anyone we are all playing GM here.

My thought simply IF the Lakers are going to trade Gasol they still need a PG:Watson which is better then Blake and Fisher and quite young.
Still need a Replacement PF which is why i suggested Boozer bc of the Similar numbers...we know gasol is better!! and a SF Beasley young talented player that can create.

Thats all but like I said Watson is a starting PG stuck behind DROSE.

Who isn't better than Fisher? Not really a valid argument and I'm content with Steve Blake as the backup. I don't understand your argument at all, you're acting like Beasley is a Bull. Lakers don't need to involve Pau or the Bulls to get him.

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 04:49 PM
CJ Watson really isn't that good, but probably is better than Steve Blake.
Boozer is underrated, but isn't on the level of Pau Gasol.

I don't know why the Lakers would do such a trade unless it was a move just to get rid of Pau.

Also dunno how this turned into Pau Gasol trade ideas. I thought this was about Michael Beasley.

Beasley would be a nice scoring option off the bench. But he's to erratic at the SF, and doesn't play well enough on Defense to play the PF.

Minny seriously has the true definition of "tweeners" at pretty much every position on their team.

Exactly...

utl768
02-21-2012, 04:50 PM
beasley with the lakers would be a good fit

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 04:54 PM
smartestguyhere...what a screen name :laugh2::clap:

I also saw someone with the name Mr. Clueless lol

Supa
02-21-2012, 05:42 PM
Since there is little chance Lakers will get back a star PG for Pau, might as well keep Pau and go for a lesser PG through other means, which, btw, will still be an upgrade for the Lakers. Trading for Beasley and filler by giving up Pau just doesn't make sense.

---

Oski H
02-21-2012, 05:50 PM
Beasley > Ron World Peace

GODlike sig

VikesTwinsWolve
02-21-2012, 06:19 PM
There is no way we are getting Pau for Beasley and fillers haha...but we can dream!

reffahead
02-21-2012, 06:46 PM
Instead of the Lakers giving up a 1st, they could get Marvin Williams for the TE. Williams and Beasley have near identical numbers across the board even though Marvin is having his worst season of his career.

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 06:49 PM
Instead of the Lakers giving up a 1st, they could get Marvin Williams for the TE. Williams and Beasley have near identical numbers across the board even though Marvin is having his worst season of his career.

Beasley is an expiring, marvin is not(99% sure)

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-21-2012, 06:51 PM
Beasley is an expiring, marvin is not(99% sure)

Beasley has a qualifying offer for 8.1 mil for 2012-2013, which Minny won't pick up, so yes, esentially, Beasley will become an unrestricted free agent this summer. Timberwolves will be enticed to not lose him for anything, so they might just let the Lakers use that TPE and get a first rounder out of it.

KnicksorBust
02-21-2012, 06:58 PM
After just giving away Odom the Lakers are starved for another rotation player. The Bulls (with a healthy Rose) are heavy favorites to make the ECF with a good chance at the finals. You don't mess that chemistry up. This is a no brainer to me.

Good for Lakers. Bad for Bulls.

lakersiznumber1
02-21-2012, 07:01 PM
dont see why the bulls would want him dont they got deng. Why would they cut back his minutes hes the only 1 who can guard lbj on there team would be stupid if they cut back his minutes. He be good in la we need scoring and we can use the tpe not gasol yea right

C-Style
02-21-2012, 07:06 PM
Instead of the Lakers giving up a 1st, they could get Marvin Williams for the TE. Williams and Beasley have near identical numbers across the board even though Marvin is having his worst season of his career.

My thoughts exactly... Dude has 3 point range just what the Lakers need.

C-Style
02-21-2012, 07:12 PM
Maybe they can offer Gasol, Barnes + 1st pick for Josh Smith & Marvin Williams

That allows the Lakers to keep the TPE & a 1st rounder to go after a PG

reffahead
02-21-2012, 07:13 PM
Beasley is an expiring, marvin is not(99% sure)

I mean, I personally would not give up a first round pick for Beasley. I'll take a guy like Jeffrey Taylor in the draft over both Williams or Beasley.

DLeeicious
02-21-2012, 07:34 PM
Didn't read the replies but seems to me if this had any truth to it it would involve a three team trade with Gasol ending up in Chicago.

Master Mind
02-21-2012, 07:38 PM
Beasley will be back with the Heat next season :p

tommyboy
02-21-2012, 08:13 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=76z7y3z

just throwing it out there.

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 08:17 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=76z7y3z

just throwing it out there.

monta would be terrible in minny, last thing you want is a high usage guy next to rubio

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 08:18 PM
Didn't read the replies but seems to me if this had any truth to it it would involve a three team trade with Gasol ending up in Chicago.

Because Beasley is part of the Bulls roster right? :rolleyes: Why the hell would Lakers give up Pau for Beasley and fillers.... PSD Bull fans :facepalm:

C-Style
02-21-2012, 08:20 PM
Didn't read the replies but seems to me if this had any truth to it it would involve a three team trade with Gasol ending up in Chicago.

Not for Boozer

justinnum1
02-21-2012, 08:21 PM
Because Beasley is part of the Bulls roster right? :rolleyes: Why the hell would Lakers give up Pau for Beasley and fillers.... PSD Bull fans :facepalm:

that is a head scratcher...

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-21-2012, 08:24 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=76z7y3z

just throwing it out there.

You wouldn't even qualify as an assistant to an assistant GM in the NBA. Sorry, no offense.

Team*Chicago
02-21-2012, 08:38 PM
Bull fans are very annoying. Their team has very little assets so every trade proposal they make, rapes the other team.

An undercover *******.:facepalm: More like the StupidestGuyHere.

ThePooH_1_
02-21-2012, 08:43 PM
An undercover *******.:facepalm: More like the StupidestGuyHere.

:D

I don't think bulls are going to trade Beasly, why should they? This looks to me like a 3 way trade with Gasol involved, but even that is not going to happen imo

Punk
02-21-2012, 08:48 PM
Odd trade by I think Gasol ends up in Minnesota.

Vinylman
02-21-2012, 08:50 PM
Wow... talk about a delusional thread...

How will Minnie get a #1 for a guy they got for 2 #2's?

He hasn't done anything to improve his value... TPE and a second rounder is about all he will command

Chicago fans are funny :rolleyes:

SmartestGuyHere
02-21-2012, 08:51 PM
An undercover *******.:facepalm: More like the StupidestGuyHere.

What package can you offer for a star without including Deng or Rose?
Boozer = trash
Noah= 1 dimensional (basically a poorman version of Chandler)
Charlotte Pick = years away
The rest are role players


Sorry you're not getting Pau. The Lakers aren't a charity.
TeamDelusional

Wisdom Listens
02-21-2012, 09:02 PM
The boy Beasley gets no respect... he will prove everyone wrong about him.

When? I've been waiting and I don't see any difference from when he first came into the league. Inconsistent on offense and lazy on defense.

championships
02-21-2012, 09:13 PM
Gasol for beasley?

Hell no.

If they can land him without giving up Gasol then that's good.

DaLyingofJungl3
02-21-2012, 09:15 PM
Both (Bulls & Lakers) dont need this trade

especially the Lakers

Michael Beasely is a head-case & he is Inconsistent on offense and he doesnt play Defense

Kuya_Clive
02-21-2012, 09:33 PM
What package can you offer for a star without including Deng or Rose?
Boozer = trash
Noah= 1 dimensional (basically a poorman version of Chandler)
Charlotte Pick = years away
The rest are role players


Sorry you're not getting Pau. The Lakers aren't a charity.
TeamDelusional

Yea, doubt the Bulls get Pau for Rose or Deng. Probably won't happen at all. If you trade Rose, it isn't gonna be for an all-star, but a superstar and that certainly isn't what Pau is anymore. Also, the Bulls aren't gonna trade Deng because he means to much to the team's success. Bulls are probably just throwing Boozer and Watson out there to the Lakers to see if they bite. If not they move on. Bulls and Lakers trade likely won't happen.

lilchuckdoubles
02-21-2012, 11:28 PM
I've been watching beas closely these last 2 years. He's good at everything but the one thing that he absolutely does not have is b-ball iq. He's not a selfish player or a bad defender or even really what I would consider a headcase, he's just a really stupid basket ball player. If i'm kahn I either trade him for a first round pick or nothing at all. I would accept kapono and lakers first for beas

effen5
02-21-2012, 11:31 PM
Why do people act like the bulls NEED Pau.... I mean he would be great but we don't need to make a trade...

On the other hand :facepalm: to the laker fans thinking they are going to get equal value for Pau. If you end up trading Pau, you guys are going to get raped the same way you raped the grizz a few years back.

lilchuckdoubles
02-21-2012, 11:38 PM
I would love to see beas play with kobe. If kobe can teach just one fourth of what he knows to beasley then he would be a all star. lol beasley need the kobe system.

LakersA's49ers
02-21-2012, 11:48 PM
i like beasley, but not for gasol.

VicSoSuave
02-21-2012, 11:51 PM
Why do people act like the bulls NEED Pau.... I mean he would be great but we don't need to make a trade...

On the other hand :facepalm: to the laker fans thinking they are going to get equal value for Pau. If you end up trading Pau, you guys are going to get raped the same way you raped the grizz a few years back.



Get ur stats right, we traded Marc Gasol for Pau......Memphis didnt get raped

yoseppii12
02-22-2012, 12:01 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6lgfrof

thats the best i can do. Throw MIL in there and maybe something...they need the PF, send them boozer. But then Lakers lose Pau for next to nothing- a gamble on beasley and CJ watson in a 3 person backcourt.

They'd only accept with picks I imagine.

lilchuckdoubles
02-22-2012, 12:03 AM
you think gooden is better then boozer?

justinnum1
02-22-2012, 12:07 AM
Get ur stats right, we traded Marc Gasol for Pau......Memphis didnt get raped

At the time, thats what it looked like.

yoseppii12
02-22-2012, 12:10 AM
you think gooden is better then boozer?

HA no, but if the lakers want Beasley that bad lol and a point guard, they would then get a consolation-safe guy in Gooden whose played for Brown in Cleveland. Well maybe Gooden played for Lebron actually.

Liek i said though, theyd probbaly want some kind of picks idk it don't make sense to me, they gave Odom away for nothing.

lilchuckdoubles
02-22-2012, 12:11 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=89ds5q3

this the best 3 way deal I could come up with but I think laker fans are set with keeping gasol so they probably wouldnt go for it.

justinnum1
02-22-2012, 12:11 AM
I have a hard time believing anyone would want beasley badly. Only way it makes sense for the lakers is they get him for free(TPE)

Captain Moroni
02-22-2012, 12:12 AM
Bulls need him

lilchuckdoubles
02-22-2012, 12:25 AM
I have a hard time believing anyone would want beasley badly. Only way it makes sense for the lakers is they get him for free(TPE)

yea but then it doesn't make sense for minny. I think l.a.'s wants beas because they think he can be a replacement for odom. I'll b happy to see minny get a first round pick for beas but if they cant get that they might as well keep him.

ManningToTyree
02-22-2012, 12:37 AM
Don't get it for Chicago. Lakers would be interesting

justinnum1
02-22-2012, 12:37 AM
yea but then it doesn't make sense for minny. I think l.a.'s wants beas because they think he can be a replacement for odom. I'll b happy to see minny get a first round pick for beas but if they cant get that they might as well keep him.

i would assume a pick goes to minny in that scenario

KnokOut
02-22-2012, 12:50 AM
I know Beasley isn't and won't be that top player people thought he would be, but he is definitely not as bad as everyone is claiming. This year he is actually passing the rock more. He has done well off the bench so far. He makes some dumb mistakes, but in LA or Chicago I think he would be a good option. Would be a nice scorer off the bench in Chicago or LA. He isn't bad defensively, but he isn't good either. Not a headcase as people are claiming, and is a good teammate, like lilchuckdoubles said, just not a high basketball iq player.

tbone2171
02-22-2012, 12:56 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=89ds5q3

this the best 3 way deal I could come up with but I think laker fans are set with keeping gasol so they probably wouldnt go for it.

Beasley and Ellington for Ronnie Brewer? No thank you

BigEasy1323
02-22-2012, 01:01 AM
None of these deals make any sense

Chronz
02-22-2012, 01:05 AM
I would love him on the Lakers

DLeeicious
02-22-2012, 01:11 AM
Because Beasley is part of the Bulls roster right? :rolleyes: Why the hell would Lakers give up Pau for Beasley and fillers.... PSD Bull fans :facepalm:

Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

Also lol at "PSD Bulls fans" - Join date Feb 2012

Do you not understand how a three team trade works?

Chronz
02-22-2012, 01:18 AM
Beasley and Ellington for Ronnie Brewer? No thank you

Why not? I dont know anything about Ellington but Brewer is a great defensive swing, sounds exactly like what your missing. Tho he and Rubio wont give you any shooting

SmartestGuyHere
02-22-2012, 01:29 AM
Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

Also lol at "PSD Bulls fans" - Join date Feb 2012

Do you not understand how a three team trade works?

Why the hell would they include Pau or the Bulls?
Join dates matter right? What point of they don't need to trade with the Bulls to get Beasley from the TWOLVES dont you get?

KnokOut
02-22-2012, 01:51 AM
Why not? I dont know anything about Ellington but Brewer is a great defensive swing, sounds exactly like what your missing. Tho he and Rubio wont give you any shooting

Ellington for some reason is deep on the bench for Adelman. When we had all the injuries, he played decent though and showed he could score double didget points if given ok minutes while playing some solid defense. I would like Brewer in Minnesota, but we are lacking offensive production from our wing players, Brewer wouldn't help that. The defense Brewer brings would be nice.

DLeeicious
02-22-2012, 10:40 AM
Why the hell would they include Pau or the Bulls?
Join dates matter right? What point of they don't need to trade with the Bulls to get Beasley from the TWOLVES dont you get?

Look my initial post was 100% sarcasm based on the Spanish reports earlier this week about Pau going to the Bulls. That went right over your head and then you insulted a fan base on here based on your experience of...just this month. Then you implied zero knowledge of how trades work and why sometimes trades require a third team to get done - even trades that are presented jokingly. So again you missed the sarcasm, responded as a d-bag showing your ignorance, joined this month and are named "SmartestGuyHere" - all that added up is about why the NBA forum is pretty laughable at times.

mgsports
02-22-2012, 11:06 AM
Felton/Beasley to Magic? Redick/Matthews/Duhon to Timberwolves? Dwill/Ridmour/Orton to Trailblazers?

marj987
02-22-2012, 02:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88e57ku

:laugh:

Southsideheat
02-22-2012, 03:19 PM
The Lakers want many pieces for Gasol. They have 2 guys starting with PER's under 10, and 3 bench players with PER's under 9. They've maxed out with Gasol and Bynum and they're still mediocre, and they're not trading Bynum. So, sorry Laker fans, the smart thing to do is trade Gasol for many pieces EVEN if its going to be pennies on the dollar.

Lakers get : Beasley, Boozer, Watson, Gibson

Wolves get: LA's 2nd rounder, CHI's 1st rounder

Bulls get: Gasol, Tolliver

4wanderingeyes
02-22-2012, 03:39 PM
The Lakers want many pieces for Gasol. They have 2 guys starting with PER's under 10, and 3 bench players with PER's under 9. They've maxed out with Gasol and Bynum and they're still mediocre, and they're not trading Bynum. So, sorry Laker fans, the smart thing to do is trade Gasol for many pieces EVEN if its going to be pennies on the dollar.

Lakers get : Beasley, Boozer, Watson, Gibson

Wolves get: LA's 2nd rounder, CHI's 1st rounder

Bulls get: Gasol, Tolliver

As a Wolves fan, I would take that trade. But it still doesnt fill their gapping hole in SG/SF. If you can give us a decent wing man in return, I think the Wolves would run with pen in hand.

ElFuturoDeESPN
02-22-2012, 04:12 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88e57ku

You're high if you think the Blazers ship Felton off to the Lakers, of all teams.

Kevj77
02-22-2012, 04:18 PM
Don't know why people are trying to add Gasol into deals for Beasly. If the Lakers do this it will be a trade directly with Minny for their TPE and picks.

LAKERMANIA
02-22-2012, 04:33 PM
Don't know why people are trying to add Gasol into deals for Beasly. If the Lakers do this it will be a trade directly with Minny for their TPE and picks.

Ditto.

Rockice_8
02-22-2012, 04:38 PM
Any idea what Minny is looking to get for him?

shep33
02-22-2012, 04:55 PM
Any idea what Minny is looking to get for him?

I have no clue. I mean LA can offer it's TPE + a first rounder. I dunno maybe we swing some minor pieces there way in separate deal (Ebanks, Morris etc.)

Either way, I don't think Beasley will be on the Wolves next year (contract has a qualifying offer). Makes no sense to keep him when you have Derrick Williams. I could be wrong on this too, but I don't think Minny has a first rounder for next year as of this moment.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-22-2012, 05:05 PM
The Lakers want many pieces for Gasol. They have 2 guys starting with PER's under 10, and 3 bench players with PER's under 9. They've maxed out with Gasol and Bynum and they're still mediocre, and they're not trading Bynum. So, sorry Laker fans, the smart thing to do is trade Gasol for many pieces EVEN if its going to be pennies on the dollar.

Lakers get : Beasley, Boozer, Watson, Gibson

Wolves get: LA's 2nd rounder, CHI's 1st rounder

Bulls get: Gasol, Tolliver

Or, we can just use the trade exemption and a first round pick to get Beasley while keeping Gasol and staying away from a scrub like Boozer.

And no, according to Woj, Lakers do not just want pieces for Gasol, they want a legitimate all-ready established all-star.

Chinoeyes
02-22-2012, 05:15 PM
Beasley for Lakers 1st pick (TPE)...

Then Gasol & Artest/Barnes for Rondo & KG... or if can acquire Deron & Hump...
(Mitch is looking for an all star and i can only see Rondo & Deron thats available)

That pretty much fits Brown's defense first system...

SmartestGuyHere
02-22-2012, 05:54 PM
Beasley for Lakers 1st pick (TPE)...

Then Gasol & Artest/Barnes for Rondo & KG... or if can acquire Deron & Hump...
(Mitch is looking for an all star and i can only see Rondo & Deron thats available)

That pretty much fits Brown's defense first system...

PSD Bull fans won't like this, it doesn't include them.

Southsideheat
02-22-2012, 06:21 PM
Or, we can just use the trade exemption and a first round pick to get Beasley while keeping Gasol and staying away from a scrub like Boozer.

And no, according to Woj, Lakers do not just want pieces for Gasol, they want a legitimate all-ready established all-star.

Or, you can stop being in denial about your team and realize that you're going to have to sell low on Gasol for the betterment of the team. Beasley alone is not helping the Lakers or their cap situation.

Southsideheat
02-22-2012, 06:23 PM
Beasley for Lakers 1st pick (TPE)...

Then Gasol & Artest/Barnes for Rondo & KG... or if can acquire Deron & Hump...
(Mitch is looking for an all star and i can only see Rondo & Deron thats available)

That pretty much fits Brown's defense first system...

And Boston would do this why? The Lakers aren't going to be giving a top 10 PG, they're going to have to settle for someone competent and not abysmal like Fisher and Blake. And with Kobe, thats all they really need.

DR_1
02-22-2012, 06:25 PM
No No No No NO NO for the Bulls. Terrible mismatch for our team dynamic. We want hard workers who care about the team first and Boozer already fills the 1 exemption slot.

This

Gibby23
02-22-2012, 06:26 PM
Or, you can stop being in denial about your team and realize that you're going to have to sell low on Gasol for the betterment of the team. Beasley alone is not helping the Lakers or their cap situation.

But the lakers still are not taking Boozer in a Gasol deal.

bodupp311
02-22-2012, 06:27 PM
PSD Bull fans won't like this, it doesn't include them.

Yeah because this thread totally doesn't talk about the Bulls interest in Beasley. Get lost.

Kevj77
02-22-2012, 06:32 PM
Or, you can stop being in denial about your team and realize that you're going to have to sell low on Gasol for the betterment of the team. Beasley alone is not helping the Lakers or their cap situation.Trading Gasol low won't help the Lakers. They need a PG, SF and better bench bad, but if they trade Gasol they would be in the same situation with the PF position. Trading for players like the deals proposed here wouldn't improve them.

The cap situation is irrelevant they would be nearly at the cap next year even if they traded Gasol for expiring contracts. Kobe making 27 million next year and 30 million the following year kills their cap. They shouldn't be worried about the cap right now at all, they will have Miami type money to spend in 2014 when all their contracts expire.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-22-2012, 06:33 PM
Or, you can stop being in denial about your team and realize that you're going to have to sell low on Gasol for the betterment of the team. Beasley alone is not helping the Lakers or their cap situation.

Trust me, if we keep both our bigs to go along with Kobe, and all we do to our roster (as Kobe refers to as tweaks) by adding Sessions and Beasley...


Trust me, I really really really like the Lakers' chances to win another NBA title, especially if we face your Heat in the finals. Our size will ultimately destroy Miami in a 7-game series.

Southsideheat
02-22-2012, 06:41 PM
Trust me, if we keep both our bigs to go along with Kobe, and all we do to our roster (as Kobe refers to as tweaks) by adding Sessions and Beasley...


Trust me, I really really really like the Lakers' chances to win another NBA title, especially if we face your Heat in the finals. Our size will ultimately destroy Miami in a 7-game series.

well, i'm not a heat fan so be my guest. But you're also delusional and in denial if you think "tweaks" are going to get ride of Fisher, Metta, Blake, McRoberts, Murphy, Kapono, i would keep going but whats the point.

As i mentioned, the sensible thing to do is trade Gasol for pieces that get rid of the garbage LA has on their roster.

KB-Pau-DH2012
02-22-2012, 06:44 PM
well, i'm not a heat fan so be my guest. But you're also delusional and in denial if you think "tweaks" are going to get ride of Fisher, Metta, Blake, McRoberts, Murphy, Kapono, i would keep going but whats the point.

As i mentioned, the sensible thing to do is trade Gasol for pieces that get rid of the garbage LA has on their roster.

My apologies that I mistook you as a Heat fan.

The Lakers win championships by playing big, bully ball with Bynum and Gasol (and now you add Beasley to that), and then Kobe being Kobe in the 4th. That's the best recipe for this Lakers team to win a championship.

We trade Gasol, and with all those new pieces you are suggesting, the earliest the Lakers will look to contend for a title will be next yr. Certainly not this yr in this condensed season where practices are hard to come by, with 50% of the season already gone.

Southsideheat
02-22-2012, 06:47 PM
My apologies that I mistook you as a Heat fan.

The Lakers win championships by playing big, bully ball with Bynum and Gasol (and now you add Beasley to that), and then Kobe being Kobe in the 4th. That's the best recipe for this Lakers team to win a championship.

We trade Gasol, and with all those new pieces you are suggesting, the earliest the Lakers will look to contend for a title will be next yr. Certainly not this yr in this condensed season where practices are hard to come by, with 50% of the season already gone.

You can wait till the end of the season, but Gasol has to go at soon, Kobe only has a few years left of being good.

SportsFanatic10
02-22-2012, 06:55 PM
while beasley could provide some relief scoring for them off the bench, i hope the bulls get him lol.

Rndy
02-22-2012, 06:57 PM
Please go to the Bulls! :pray:

Not the first time a Heat fan prayed for The Bulls to get Beasley. :cool:

SportsFanatic10
02-22-2012, 07:00 PM
Not the first time a Heat fan prayed for The Bulls to get Beasley. :cool:

true that lol...damn lottery. but it actually worked out cuz miami wouldn't have lebron and bosh if they drafted rose.

GHGHCP
02-22-2012, 07:04 PM
Beasley to the Lakers for some used deflated basketballs and a broken air pump with a bent needle.

BigWheel12
02-22-2012, 07:08 PM
Honestly, if I were a Lakers fan I'd be pissed too in trading Gasol. You likely will not get a player of equal value. But you need to make a trade for as many players as you can get. As of now, your team consists of Gasol, Bynum and Kobe--that's it. And that isn't going to do better than a first round exit. I'm sure you can get Beasley without giving up Gasol (Trade exception plus a first rounder), but that doesn't do much either.

The trade IDEAS (not rumors) I saw in an espn article this morning were Gasol for David West, Dahntay Jones and George Hill. All solid players, but nothing special. The other had you sending Gasol to Houston for Marcus Morris, Scola, Buddinger and Dragic. So even espn has you losing talent and just adding pieces. I think both of those trades benefit the Lakers for this season.

I don't see why lakers fans are so opposed to a deal like:
Bulls Trade: Boozer, CJ Watson, Gibson, Bulls First rd pick
Bull Get: Pau Gasol, Anthony Randolph

Lakers Trade: Pau Gasol
Lakers Get: Boozer, Watson, Gibson, Beasley

Twolves Trade: Beasley, Anthony Randolph
Twoves Get: Lakers and Bulls first rd picks, Trade exception, Player TBN

And all of this talk about Watson being a scrub is bullsh*t. His per 36 minute averages are 16.5 points 6.4 ast 1.8 stls 2.4 threes. That would be a massive upgrade over Blake/Fischer.

You could then start:
PG: Watson
SG: Bryant
SF: Beasley
PF: Boozer
C: Bynum

With Gibson, World Peace, Blake off the bench

Gibby23
02-22-2012, 07:11 PM
true that lol...damn lottery. but it actually worked out cuz miami wouldn't have lebron and bosh if they drafted rose.

They could have still got one of Lebron or Bosh. Imagin Rose, Wade, Lebron.

SportsFanatic10
02-22-2012, 07:15 PM
They could have still got one of Lebron or Bosh. Imagin Rose, Wade, Lebron.

as good as it sounds i'd rather the heats trio. too many perimeter ball handlers with that lineup. they all need the ball to be effective. hell with the way chalmers is shooting hes almost a better fit for the heat and i know that sounds crazy but its the truth. plus bosh's pick and roll defensive rotations are underrated and his midrange pick and pop game is key for the heat.

SmartestGuyHere
02-22-2012, 08:04 PM
Yeah because this thread totally doesn't talk about the Bulls interest in Beasley. Get lost.

Yet some how, it ended up as a Pau to the Bulls. How does that make sense? I couldn't careless if you say "Boozer to the Twolves for Beasley" but no instead, every post is like "Boozer to Lakers and Pau to the Bulls." You don't want your trash, what makes you think we do? Get lost? Get real son. You're not getting Pau for Boozer + Fillers.

Rndy
02-22-2012, 08:11 PM
as good as it sounds i'd rather the heats trio. too many perimeter ball handlers with that lineup. they all need the ball to be effective. hell with the way chalmers is shooting hes almost a better fit for the heat and i know that sounds crazy but its the truth. plus bosh's pick and roll defensive rotations are underrated and his midrange pick and pop game is key for the heat.

Agreed Rose, Wade, and Lebron sounds amazing and probably would be in NBA 2K12. In actual basketball it would hard to have 3 guys who aren't really great shooters. Rose could play off the ball very well though would be interesting.

justinnum1
02-22-2012, 08:23 PM
They could have still got one of Lebron or Bosh. Imagin Rose, Wade, Lebron.

wade and bron would have really hampered rose's growth.

bodupp311
02-22-2012, 08:37 PM
Yet some how, it ended up as a Pau to the Bulls. How does that make sense? I couldn't careless if you say "Boozer to the Twolves for Beasley" but no instead, every post is like "Boozer to Lakers and Pau to the Bulls." You don't want your trash, what makes you think we do? Get lost? Get real son. You're not getting Pau for Boozer + Fillers.

Did I say any of that? Nope. Don't be so presumptuous about what I said or what ANY front office is thinking just because you think it's "trash". And for the record, no I don't think we'd get Gasol For Boozer + fillers.

I'll keep pointing you out though because you have under 80 posts yet know soooo much about us God awful Bulls fans. I would guess you're a dupe, though.

SmartestGuyHere
02-22-2012, 08:44 PM
Did I say any of that? Nope. Don't be so presumptuous about what I said or what ANY front office is thinking just because you think it's "trash". And for the record, no I don't think we'd get Gasol For Boozer + fillers.

I'll keep pointing you out though because you have under 80 posts yet know soooo much about us God awful Bulls fans. I would guess you're a dupe, though.

5 pages of Pau to Bulls in a Beasley interest thread is more than I need.

Cfrey
02-22-2012, 08:45 PM
beasely back to heat for lebron and wade

Cfrey
02-22-2012, 08:46 PM
Rubio
Wade
Lebron
Love
Pek

championship

ThePooH_1_
02-22-2012, 08:50 PM
wade and bron would have really hampered rose's growth.

Right, thats why I didn't want Wade or Lebron to come to Chicago in the Free Agency becouse Rose wouldn't be the player who he is right now if any of those two landed in Chicago

Rio2011
02-22-2012, 11:00 PM
I don't think he is a good fit for the Lakers. What the Lakers need is a PG like a healthy Chauncey Billups.

howiend
02-22-2012, 11:24 PM
wolves fan here - beasley won't be back with the wolves next year, so would love to trade him to anyone for anything decent

AddiX
02-22-2012, 11:30 PM
Right, thats why I didn't want Wade or Lebron to come to Chicago in the Free Agency becouse Rose wouldn't be the player who he is right now if any of those two landed in Chicago

Yeah, because you guys wouldn't be the best team in the NBA if you had wade or bron right now? :facepalm:

SMH, nothing worse than bulls/rose homers. Did you see the playoffs last year when rose got shut down and had no where to go wth the ball?