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Lakers ALL DAY
02-13-2012, 11:20 AM
Both came upon the world scene in 1996

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt CD
Kobe - Drafted into the League

Both worked their way up and by 2000 were at the top of their industries

Jay-Z - Beginning of the BluePrint Album series
Kobe - Beginning of the 3-Peat

Both had highly publicized break up with partners they were REALLY successful with

Jay-Z - Split with Dame Dash
Kobe - Split with Shaquille O'Neal

Both had downtime in the mid 2000s
Jay-Z - Retirement
Kobe - Playing on bad teams from 2005-2007

Both rejuvenated themselves and by the end of the Decade were back at the forefront

Jay-Z - Totally remade himself as the TOP businessman in the genre, released 3 pretty good CD's won some more Awards, etc.
Kobe - Capitalized on the Gasol trade and won 2 rings in a row

They are BOTH All-Time greats who are chasing ghosts
(Jay-z chasing Biggie and Pac)
(Kobe's obviously chasing MJ)

Both should probably be ready to hand them up.
Both are not at their peak but continue to put out GOOD performances year after year, though not at their peak best.

sixer04fan
02-13-2012, 11:32 AM
If by "very interesting" you mean "not interesting at at all," then yes, it is very interesting.

DLCK
02-13-2012, 11:37 AM
Lol...."interesting"

MackShock
02-13-2012, 11:42 AM
Both are part of the Illuminati.

/thread.

C-Wick925
02-13-2012, 11:43 AM
If by "very interesting" you mean "not interesting at at all," then yes, it is very interesting.

x100

Master Mind
02-13-2012, 01:29 PM
I guess Lebron's Kanye :shrug:

SpaceJamJordans
02-13-2012, 01:47 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

black1605
02-13-2012, 01:49 PM
Jeremy Lin.

marvILLous
02-13-2012, 02:23 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

LOLOLwat?

GrandDaddyPurp
02-13-2012, 02:25 PM
You forgot the part where they both get accused for rape and lose half their assets. Oh wait..

BRICKCITYPIMP12
02-13-2012, 02:31 PM
haha.. nice post.

SpaceJamJordans
02-13-2012, 02:34 PM
LOLOLwat?

I speak for the citizens of the United States, its forreal doe

sep11ie
02-13-2012, 02:43 PM
Cocaine is a helluva drug.

mavwar53
02-13-2012, 02:43 PM
Don't forget both guys are Black.

Lakerhead4ever
02-13-2012, 02:43 PM
I guess Lebron's Kanye :shrug:

kanye has been been very successful. lebron hasnt as of now.

FNM BOY
02-13-2012, 02:47 PM
Lmao....:D...WOW!!!

Getting UGGLA
02-13-2012, 03:13 PM
I think Coolio would be a better comparison.

John Walls Era
02-13-2012, 03:42 PM
LOLOLwat?

Hes right. Jay Z use to be good. Now hes rich and doesnt care anymore.

dickydick8
02-13-2012, 03:45 PM
both are ugly as $#%#.

Ebbs
02-13-2012, 03:49 PM
kanye has been been very successful. lebron hasnt as of now.

2 MVP's, 2 Final appearances and a 9 digit bank account may argue with you.

NoahH
02-13-2012, 03:50 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

Ok that's not true

Klivlend
02-13-2012, 03:56 PM
Jay-Z raps like Deshawn Stevenson plays.

LAKERS 24/7
02-13-2012, 04:00 PM
LOL empire state of mind isn't even in his top 20

Heediot
02-13-2012, 04:00 PM
Both have a tremendous skill set that they use for selfish and egotistical purposes. Instead of attempting to make classic albums, Jay-Z. makes good singles and the majority of his albums are average at best. He is more concerned with making money and producing a legacy than making authentic art. Kobe is so egocentric and self centered in his approach to the game. He wants to win but not without being known as the main reason for winning.

marvILLous
02-13-2012, 04:10 PM
Hes right. Jay Z use to be good. Now hes rich and doesnt care anymore.

i'm not talking about that, i'm talking about "nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind."

again.. LOLwat?

marvILLous
02-13-2012, 04:12 PM
I speak for the citizens of the United States, its forreal doe

how old r u? lol empire state of mind came out in 09, he already had like 10 platinum albums by then lol

SpaceJamJordans
02-13-2012, 04:50 PM
how old r u? lol empire state of mind came out in 09, he already had like 10 platinum albums by then lol

I'm 20, how old are you? Face it, the general people didn't know who Jay-Z was. That's why he became a sellout with Blueprint 3 and now dickriding Kanye's style. Sorry for the profane language, but its the troof :cool:

bucketss
02-13-2012, 04:55 PM
kendrick lamar=rose
j cole- durant

lebron - kanye


#bored

beans439
02-13-2012, 05:02 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

hahahaha...and your credibility just went down the *******...

beans439
02-13-2012, 05:10 PM
I'm 20, how old are you? Face it, the general people didn't know who Jay-Z was. That's why he became a sellout with Blueprint 3 and now dickriding Kanye's style. Sorry for the profane language, but its the troof :cool:

haha. jesus keep em coming youngster!! Kanye himself will probably tell you differently. kanye has looked up to Jay for his entire career, listen to his album. He has a whole song about his "Big Bro". Lil wayne - "I cant box with the god"...eminem - "It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me." nope, no kanye in there...

so theres the biggest names in hip hop talking Jay Z my friend. just sit back and enjoy.

SpaceJamJordans
02-13-2012, 05:11 PM
hahahaha...and your credibility just went down the *******...

you didnt even read the rest of what i said in the forum. yes i know him, yes his imagery is incredible. his flow is boring and he has no creativity. but MOST people wouldn't know who he is outside of the hiphop world so that is why this thread is found 'lame' do you get it now?

Heediot
02-13-2012, 05:13 PM
haha. jesus keep em coming youngster!! Kanye himself will probably tell you differently. kanye has looked up to Jay for his entire career, listen to his album. He has a whole song about his "Big Bro". Lil wayne - "I cant box with the god"...eminem - "It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me." nope, no kanye in there...

so theres the biggest names in hip hop talking Jay Z my friend. just sit back and enjoy.

BIG Pun will murder any of those cats lyrically.

sunsfan88
02-13-2012, 05:27 PM
Jay-Z raps like Deshawn Stevenson plays.

So your saying Jay-Z is the best rapper ever?

Look at Stevenson's comparison;

http://nbadraft.net/players/deshawn-stevenson

Cano4prez
02-13-2012, 05:43 PM
Lol at saying Biggie and Pac are the GOATs

SpaceJamJordans
02-13-2012, 05:49 PM
Lol at saying Biggie and Pac are the GOATs

More famous than what Jay-Z will ever be :D

Heediot
02-13-2012, 05:52 PM
More famous than what Jay-Z will ever be :D

I'm no Jay-Z fan-boy but dude is one of the top selling artist of all-time, and this is not just in the hip-hop category.

uprightciti
02-13-2012, 05:59 PM
wheres the part where

Kobe rapes that chick

and when Kobe gets a divorce

and when Jay Z turns gay

netsgiantsyanks
02-13-2012, 06:00 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

go somewhere and think about that statement you just decided to post without caring to read what it actually said.

obie
02-13-2012, 06:10 PM
I guess Lebron's Kanye :shrug:

Wade= Kanye

Lebron is Nicki Minaj

Tanakid777
02-13-2012, 06:11 PM
If by "very interesting" you mean "not interesting at at all," then yes, it is very interesting.
this


Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

This may be the most absurd thing I've read on this site. You must be 12 :facepalm:

SpaceJamJordans
02-13-2012, 06:16 PM
this



This may be the most absurd thing I've read on this site. You must be 12 :facepalm:

I must be 20. He only gained most of his popularity today due to Blueprint 3, I'm not even close to lying

AIRMAR72
02-13-2012, 06:28 PM
jay z have been rapping since 1992 or earlier there was tupac and biggie RIP to both guys reason why jay z never got the spotlight till both bite the dust those are the main reason why jay z became mega rap star(no comp) but both guys(kobe N jay z) reminds me of creatures jay z looks camel and kobe looks a rat (new york type)

nickdymez
02-13-2012, 07:10 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

You should probably do some research on Jay-z before making a comment like this..

SpaceJamJordans
02-13-2012, 07:36 PM
You should probably do some research on Jay-z before making a comment like this..

I am 100% sure I know who Jay-Z is. I'm saying nobody really knew him before the song came out outside of the HipHop community. What's so hard to understand? It's like someone saying Kobe is overrated to those who don't watch basketball at all and just trying to fit in. Yes he's the top 3 to do it, but nobody really knows his work and career.

xbrackattackx
02-13-2012, 07:37 PM
jay z have been rapping since 1992 or earlier there was tupac and biggie RIP to both guys reason why jay z never got the spotlight till both bite the dust those are the main reason why jay z became mega rap star(no comp) but both guys(kobe N jay z) reminds me of creatures jay z looks camel and kobe looks a rat (new york type)

And both still get hot beeches.

theheatles
02-13-2012, 07:43 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

lol holy **** i just fell out of my chair

thanks for the best laugh psd has ever provided me...you must be 12 or younger, no?


EDIT: oh geez, you're 20, you are an epic fail and shouldn't talk about rappers or rap genre

Klivlend
02-13-2012, 07:46 PM
So your saying Jay-Z is the best rapper ever?

Look at Stevenson's comparison;

http://nbadraft.net/players/deshawn-stevenson

haha, wow. talk about overrated and not living up to the hype.

VinceGully
02-13-2012, 07:56 PM
WOW...Ive seen some of the most absurd **** ever in this thread today...How can you say "nobody heard of Jay before Empire..." when 10 years ago he was selling 6x the amount of albums any rapper is selling right now. I know you were only 10 at the time but Jay was a pretty big deal back in the early 2000's the WHOLE Roc was. Hip Hop isnt what you know now. It was at its peak in the late 90's and everybody knew Jay, Pac, Biggie...etc. Bad Boy, Deathrow DefJam...etc.

And YES Big is the one of the GOATs.

netsgiantsyanks
02-13-2012, 08:15 PM
if you want to talk about besides hip-hop, he won his first grammy in 1999. i'm pretty sure people were at least aware of his presence. like damn.

Abdul Mutalib
02-13-2012, 09:48 PM
Obviously ur no more than 13 years old then to be making that comment

RickyRubio
02-13-2012, 10:00 PM
If by "very interesting" you mean "not interesting at at all," then yes, it is very interesting.

This.


Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

I hope this was sarcasm?

RickyRubio
02-13-2012, 10:01 PM
haha, wow. talk about overrated and not living up to the hype.

I think the funnist thing about the page is how they say Deshawn Stevenson has "Super Character" :laugh2:

Gritz
02-13-2012, 10:09 PM
Cocaine is a helluva drug.

That was COLD BLOODED!

Lakeshow24KB
02-13-2012, 10:29 PM
I'm a pure YMCMB fan and I think Jay-z > everyone in Young Money. And I'm just 14 and I knew him before that...come on now.

OaklandsFinest
02-13-2012, 10:39 PM
Jay-Z is boring to be honest, nobody even knew him before Empire State of Mind.

"A wise man said don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z

Lakeshow24KB
02-13-2012, 10:43 PM
"A wise man said don't argue with fools, cause people from a distance can't tell who is who" - Jay Z

:worthy:

The Final Boss
02-13-2012, 10:46 PM
Lol If Jay-Z was ever lucky enough to have went to college he would have been kicked out for plagiarism.

C-Wick925
02-13-2012, 10:49 PM
That Jay character is cool.. i just heard of him in 09.. when that empire cd came out

beans439
02-13-2012, 11:18 PM
this thread is hilarious. "nobody heard of Jay until empire state of mind"...like someone said, that song may not even be top 20 for him...dude needs to hop on itunes and get that reasonable doubt(a classic), that hard knock life, etc and see how many hits he recognizes. then throw away whatever hes listening to now...

Spiggity_ace
02-13-2012, 11:26 PM
u forgot one major difference

jay-z sucks

RaiderLakersA's
02-13-2012, 11:27 PM
How is this thread still open????

mdm692
02-13-2012, 11:32 PM
H to the izzo anyone?? Dead presidents??

Oh side note
Nas = MJ
And kanye will probably surpass jay-z when its all set and done. Just my opinion. But before anybody hangs me for those statements remember that other guy said nobody knew jay-z before empire state :facepalm:

ArmLaker
02-14-2012, 12:00 AM
Kobe=Tupac
Shaq=Biggie
Kanye=LeBron
Jay Z= Adam Morrison

jrands
02-14-2012, 12:46 AM
You forgot the part where they both get accused for rape and lose half their assets. Oh wait..

Also forgot to include where they both got accused for stabbing someone. Oh wait...

jrands
02-14-2012, 12:49 AM
WOW...Ive seen some of the most absurd **** ever in this thread today...How can you say "nobody heard of Jay before Empire..." when 10 years ago he was selling 6x the amount of albums any rapper is selling right now. I know you were only 10 at the time but Jay was a pretty big deal back in the early 2000's the WHOLE Roc was. Hip Hop isnt what you know now. It was at its peak in the late 90's and everybody knew Jay, Pac, Biggie...etc. Bad Boy, Deathrow DefJam...etc.

And YES Big is the one of the GOATs.

Ha, you a youngin' too. It was at it's peak in the late 90's...lol

VinceGully
02-14-2012, 03:15 AM
Ha, you a youngin' too. It was at it's peak in the late 90's...lol

No fam...33. And from a REAL hiphop town, little city called New York. Sales were at its highest in late 90's early 2000 before "Napster" blowup of the Music industry. Im sure your argument may be of the founding years of the 80's but white kids across the country got into the genre in the mid 90's kid and the Badboy/Deathrow movement put "rap" on its ear. When a white dude named Eminem stepped on the scene in 1998 the hip hop generation was excepted by white america and thus sales soared...on and on and such and such. Study up boy before you start assuming...

jrands
02-14-2012, 11:57 PM
No fam...33. And from a REAL hiphop town, little city called New York. Sales were at its highest in late 90's early 2000 before "Napster" blowup of the Music industry. Im sure your argument may be of the founding years of the 80's but white kids across the country got into the genre in the mid 90's kid and the Badboy/Deathrow movement put "rap" on its ear. When a white dude named Eminem stepped on the scene in 1998 the hip hop generation was excepted by white america and thus sales soared...on and on and such and such. Study up boy before you start assuming...

We're about the same age then (35 here). I'm not from NYC, but I'm out here in SoCal and don't give a shiz about the east vs. west coast thing...ha You might be right about sales being highest in the last 90's early 2000's, however I wouldn't know because I just listen to the music and don't follow sales too much (nothing wrong with people who do, just not me). I don't listen to hip hop/rap much these days, but my preference has always been mid-80's to mid-90's with some mix of late 90's/early 2000 stuff.

I think rap was in the consciousness of mainstream America much earlier than the mid-90's. Of course no matter how much we might not want to admit it, and even if they were one-hit wonders, there was Vanilla Ice and Young MC and of course Fresh Prince and DJ Jazzy Jeff. Then in the early 90s, there was "Rump Shaker" , "Ditty" by Paperboy, "Whoomp" by Tag Team, and of course the albums, PLease Hammer, Don't Hurt Em by MC Hammer and The Chronic by Dr. Dre released in the early 90's. There was also of course Wutang, Cypress Hill, and of course House of Pain.

Too me, I've listened to hip hop since the mid/late-80's and a bunch of my friends did as well (e.g., Eazy, NWA, Public Enemy, Too $hort, Digital Underground, etc...), so it's been nothing new to me. So NYC might be a real hip hop town (some of my favorites are Wutang, Cormega, tribed called quest, and ALL the early Rawkus stuff), but there are a lot of MC's out here as well such as the Living Legends, Hieroglyphics, and Jurassic 5 crews along with Digital Underground.

Anyway, so the late 90's might have been the highest selling, and Badboy/Deathrow helped with hip hop's growth in the mid-90's (personally I feel to its detriment), but rap had long been in the consciousness of mainstream *ahem* white America, and u can't touch this fact my friend. Eminem just blew up because he was white and actually had skills.