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Baller1
02-06-2012, 02:49 PM
Kendrick Perkins' value has been a topic of discussion for a while now, particularly at last season's trade deadline when Boston decided to ship him to OKC for Jeff Green. Many people feel he's an overrated, overweight center with minimal value, while others feel he provides a team with immeasurable intangibles. So, what's the feeling now? Have moods changed toward Perkins?


Statisticians can measure seemingly every imaginable aspect of sports, plug the data into spreadsheets or algorithms, then extrapolate factors for success and failure. Voila! Bullet-proof evidence, they'll argue.

It was like this long before the first sports books opened in Las Vegas or IBM computers started rolling down assembly lines, but in today's fantasy sports era, no statistic escapes scrutiny.

Yet, there's an outlier in Oklahoma City, a player with an impact as big as his towering stature but with a statistical footprint that's almost nonexistent.

"He's not a stat-sheet stuffer," says Oklahoma City star Kevin Durant.

No, Kendrick Perkins, the Thunder's 6-foot-10, 270-pound center, is most definitely not.

Through Friday, Perkins ranked 186th in the NBA in scoring (4.8 points a game) and 60th in rebounding (5.5 a game).

The only clear way to gauge Perkins' value? Wins and losses. (Quaint, no?)

And since the NBA-best 18-4 Thunder acquired him in a trade with Boston in February 2011, its record is 31-8.

"If you didn't watch our games, you wouldn't know how important he is to our team," Durant says.

Even if you watch, you have to pay attention, because while Perkins is easy to spot, the way he changes games isn't.

Each time an opposing big man is having an "off night," notice the defender hounding him on every shot and rebound.

Each time a Thunder player endures a hard foul, notice the refrigerator-sized teammate who levels the accused opponent.

And each time Durant, Russell Westbrook or James Harden curls around a screen and finds an acre of wide-open shooting space, notice the equilibrium-rattling pick that set him free.

"I feel like if I set a good screen and my teammate gets a good shot and he makes it, I feel like I made the shot just as well," Perkins, 27, says in a baritone Southern drawl.

Selflessness personifies the blue-collar Beaumont, Texas, native, and the youthful Thunder needed his services enough that they locked him up with a four-year, $35-million extension before he ever played a game for the team.

Then, despite playing with a right knee not fully recovered from a torn anterior cruciate ligament he suffered in 2010, Perkins helped the Thunder reach the Western Conference finals last year.

This season, that knee is almost 100% healthy and Perkins shed 31 pounds, too, so his mobility is much improved.

Numbers may not show it, but his presence alone gives the Thunder what it lacked most: leadership, a defensive anchor, an inside presence, and a toughness Harden called "contagious" and Thunder Coach Scott Brooks said is no act.

"I wouldn't mess with him," Brooks said. "The NBA needs more of that 'it's-about-us-against-them' mentality. And that's what he brings to the table every day."

Perkins is known for his signature scowl, which looks as though he grimaced so much as a child that, as he was probably warned would happen, his face stuck that way. "I didn't know he had a smile until he got to Oklahoma City," Durant says.

But don't assume Perkins is an oversized enforcer who burns through fouls like a Hummer does gasoline.

His basketball IQ is in the NBA's upper echelon and he's a savvy air-traffic controller on the court. His teammates listen, too, especially because he has a championship ring, earned with Boston in 2008.

To them, he preaches that it's more fun to lose yourself in the camaraderie of winning than to lose and have big numbers. As an example of that mind-set, Perkins put it like this:

"Can you name me five players off the 2004 All-Star team?"

The reporter scratched his head.

"Can you name me who won the championship in 2004?"

Detroit, the reporter answered.

"My point exactly."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-nba-thunder-20120205,0,116155,full.story

He115ing
02-06-2012, 03:03 PM
Yesterday in the Celtics post game interview Doc mentioned how guys like Perk might not fill the stat sheet but still contribute a great deal to the team. I think that Doc knows what the fcuk he is talking about!

PacersForLife
02-06-2012, 03:31 PM
Every team needs a guy like Kendrick Perkins. Talent-wise I would take Jeff Green over Perkins.

Fnom11
02-06-2012, 04:05 PM
He's not worth his contract but what big man is? He's not usually rated very high so he's probably about where he's supposed to be, not overrated not underrated.

NoahH
02-06-2012, 04:19 PM
Skill wise, he's vastly overrated, but he brings more than stats to his team.

Hustlenomics
02-06-2012, 04:29 PM
cool guy but he's way overrated

theLgndKllr35
02-06-2012, 04:40 PM
Skill wise, he's vastly overrated, but he brings more than stats to his team.

I don't know about vastly overrated. He's still a good player, but overrated none the less. Definitely does bring a lot of good intangibles.

FrenchSunsFan
02-06-2012, 05:41 PM
Perkins he s overrated and Ibaka underrated.

AWC713
02-06-2012, 05:53 PM
He's not worth his contract but what big man is? He's not usually rated very high so he's probably about where he's supposed to be, not overrated not underrated.

you have a sick gif...who is that? what team?

iggypop123
02-06-2012, 05:58 PM
glorified kwame brown, without the stone hands. its sad people think his absence equaled the title for the lakers. they ignore rasheed having the game of his season and easily giving more production that perkins ever did, doc used to bench him in the 4th for big baby.

CudiOnMyiPod
02-06-2012, 06:03 PM
Thunder fans: He is a top defensive big who has an impact like no other big man defensively.

Celtics fans: He sucks and I'm glad we got rid of him for Green!

Average NBA fan: He is a good starting center. Nothing special. Just a solid big who is a good defender but can't really score or do anything else.


Perkins is a good center but he is not that good.

WildcatsPride
02-06-2012, 06:19 PM
Perkins is good, but he's not all that IMO.

blastmasta26
02-06-2012, 06:25 PM
Good but overrated.

JasonJohnHorn
02-06-2012, 06:34 PM
KP is rated about where he should be. Good post defender, decent rebound, limited offence. Good piece for a team that has scorers else where on the roster. And hey, he's got a championship on his resume (and he may very well have had two if he didnt get injured for the second trip to the finals).

Jenceman
02-06-2012, 06:50 PM
KP is rated about where he should be. Good post defender, decent rebound, limited offence. Good piece for a team that has scorers else where on the roster. And hey, he's got a championship on his resume (and he may very well have had two if he didnt get injured for the second trip to the finals).

yeah....no. Wallace had a great game that wouldn't have happened if Perkins were in there. Do people even remember that game? You think defense is they reason the Celts lost? The Lakers defense absolutely shut them down.

Iodine
02-06-2012, 07:32 PM
Perkins he s overrated and Ibaka underrated.

Wait, did you just say Perk is overrated then say Ibaka is underrated lolololol.

Perk is rated pretty fair for the most part, great man post defender, good teamate to have, angry ******* that is more than willing to call his own guys out http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=jy-ludden_thunder_beat_grizzlies_game5_051211 and a guy who you know is able to play as long as you need barring that nasty Knee injury.

seikou8
02-06-2012, 08:05 PM
i think hes rated good noone reallys talks about him in a overated way.

lavilevi23
02-06-2012, 08:12 PM
LMA & Marc Gasol for me.

Gators123
02-06-2012, 08:15 PM
Overrated.

Lakers + Giants
02-06-2012, 09:56 PM
Overrated by okc fans. Underrated by most other fans.

Raph12
02-07-2012, 12:22 AM
Overrated - Non-factor offensively, on defense he can only guard physical, back-to-the-basket players (Dwight, Bynum, Cousins and that's about it); weak help defender and too slow to guard more athletic/quicker players

blahblahyoutoo
02-07-2012, 12:27 AM
Yesterday in the Celtics post game interview Doc mentioned how guys like Perk might not fill the stat sheet but still contribute a great deal to the team. I think that Doc knows what the fcuk he is talking about!

no one, especially a former coach, is going to badmouth a player in public.

AddiX
02-07-2012, 12:28 AM
Most overrated player I've ever seen in my life. Maybe not that bad but he's really up there. Especially for that contract. Are you kidding me? Your paying a guy that much for hard fouls and screens?

IversonIsKrazy
02-07-2012, 02:11 AM
He is extremely overrated, as are a lot of Centers. There's a reason for that tho, when there aren't many true Center's, they tend to be overrated because theres not many of them.

Crackadalic
02-07-2012, 02:48 AM
Overrated when viewed as the missing piece for a championship team(Ex celtics) but he brings so much more to a team beyond the stats. Brings leadership to the locker room and thats important

Raph12
02-07-2012, 04:07 AM
Overrated when viewed as the missing piece for a championship team(Ex celtics) but he brings so much more to a team beyond the stats. Brings leadership to the locker room and thats important

He told Russell Westbrook that no matter how hard he tried, he would never be as good as his ex-teammate Rajon Rondo... Great leadership. :rolleyes::eyebrow:

mjokc
02-07-2012, 06:38 AM
I have no idea why non thunder fans obsess over Kendrick Perkins day in and day out. Since he supposedly sucks so bad wouldn't you all be happy that it makes the thunder easier? And thunder fans in no way overrate Kendrick Perkins, he's a great defensive center with no offensive game. We didn't pick him up for his scoring.

jam
02-07-2012, 08:05 AM
He's in a class of bigs who works very hard and makes the most out of his limited abilities. This includes players such as Noah, Varejao and Hansborough. He's the essential piece that every championship caliber team needs.

Chicago had Horace Grant and later Dennis Rodman. Detroit's bad boys had plenty of players with Kendrick's work ethic.

He's the prototype of a 4/5 who does all of the dirty work and intangibles, and sets a great example of a player maxing out his effort every game, every night.

He's not overrated, nor overpaid, not by current NBA standards, anyway.

gatkins11
02-07-2012, 12:55 PM
Overrated. He's a fake tough guy.

DodgerBlue22
02-07-2012, 01:26 PM
I'm a diehard Celtics fan and I can say he's probably the most overrated talked about 5 and 5 guy in the history of the NBA!! Does he help us in Game 7 if he doesn't get hurt of course. Do we 100% win that game if he plays the answer is NO!! He is such a great defender?? How many good Centers are there in the NBA?? Go look up Howard's stats vs him. I bet he averages 30 and 16..beyond Howard how many other Centers are a threat for a game like that?? None..So of course he shuts down other Centers..Every Center shuts down the other Centers haha cuz they all suck.