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Fresno
01-28-2012, 12:25 PM
Sources with knowledge of Toronto's thinking say that the team is not just going to give Calderon away, especially when he's back to supplying a typically efficient 10.6 points and 8.7 assists nightly, but I'm told that the Raps are indeed open to moving him.


You'll recall that they already did agree to trade him to Charlotte in the summer of 2010 in a Tyson Chandler deal that the Bobcats ultimately backed out of. Now? Sources say that the Raps, if not outright shopping Calderon, have let it be known they're willing to listen, since he's no longer regarded as their long-term answer at the point.



Another option for Toronto, if shedding Calderon's salary is needed for cap space this summer, is merely releasing him via the amnesty clause in the NBA's new labor agreement since the Raps didn't use it before this season.
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-120127-29/weekend-dime-views-professional-watchers

Iron24th
01-28-2012, 12:29 PM
Calderon for Lakers TPE? Lol

Heediot
01-28-2012, 12:32 PM
Calderon for Lakers TPE? Lol

Sold!

This would gives the Raptors even more cap room and flexibilty.

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 12:33 PM
cant be done with the tpe apparently.

Hawkeye15
01-28-2012, 12:38 PM
Why not? His value couldn't be higher right now with the way he is playing.

shep33
01-28-2012, 12:38 PM
tpe isn't big enough

Sadds The Gr8
01-28-2012, 12:53 PM
I'd rather see him stay but I understand the reason for trading him. It'll be sad to see him go if he's traded. Getting back a solid young player should be able to complete the trade.

kntresistheheat
01-28-2012, 12:55 PM
Lakers should be pushing hard to get this guy! If not straight up look for a 3rd team.

jon32
01-28-2012, 12:58 PM
Send him to New York for Iman Shumpert !!:D

Avenged
01-28-2012, 01:00 PM
He would be perfect for the Lakers! Long shot. We have no pieces to trade, not even for him.

Nick O
01-28-2012, 01:04 PM
it will be sad to see him go but tbh as much as i have valued his play over the years he is a replaceable player.. people who dont see him play often though know you would be getting GREAT ball security one of the best ever in terms of assist to turnover ratio and you will be getting a great leader and good 3 point shooter. not to mention one of the best free throw shooters in the game.. on the down side hes an atrocious defender and a streaky shooter who when he has an off night.. he REALLY has an off night -.- ... none the less there are guards better than him so i want to get something good in return

Gritz
01-28-2012, 01:05 PM
"Let lil ese walk!"

torontosports10
01-28-2012, 01:05 PM
Id be thrilled with a 1st rounder for him this year.

ILUVLA
01-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Being a Laker fan I would love Calderon as well, but I don't think the Lakers have anything that Toronto would want. I agree that a three team deal would need to happen, although you do have to ask yourself if hte Lakers were willing to give up Gasol and Odom for Paul, would they be willing to trade gasol for Calderon (through a third team of course)

silverbrad
01-28-2012, 01:07 PM
Another good point guard available that the Knicks won't go after...(Nate, Arenas, even Mike James now...) Why not Toney Douglass and Bill Walker... 2 mil for Douglass next year and Walker comes off the books...WENEED A PG!! Desperate times, desperate measures...

heyman321
01-28-2012, 01:09 PM
Being a Laker fan I would love Calderon as well, but I don't think the Lakers have anything that Toronto would want. I agree that a three team deal would need to happen, although you do have to ask yourself if hte Lakers were willing to give up Gasol and Odom for Paul, would they be willing to trade gasol for Calderon (through a third team of course)

The Lakers wouldn't do that. They want a Spanish connection!

0nekhmer
01-28-2012, 01:13 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dime-120127-29/weekend-dime-views-professional-watchers

Jose is one of the few underrated true PGs out there. He was amongst the top in assist to turnover ratio for the past couple of seasons but was always overlooked. Anyways i hope he goes to a contending team and wins it all.

Nick O
01-28-2012, 01:16 PM
a trade to the lakers would be fine.. but i really dont want derek Fisher too lol .. -.- .. unless he takes a derek martin type role :P

TO Rapz
01-28-2012, 01:22 PM
the lakers have nothing the raptors want. There would have to be a 3rd team involved like everyone else said already.

Also, please trade him BC. His value is quite high right now, and as much as it'll be very sad to see him go, it's the right move to make. This raptor team has not much talent, and jose is one of our few pieces of value, so get something solid BC.

TO Rapz
01-28-2012, 01:23 PM
also, if the lakers got jose, hellcrooner would ejaculate.

thunderforce
01-28-2012, 01:25 PM
If the lakers have their first round pick I wouldn't say they have nothing the the raps would want .

dhopisthename
01-28-2012, 01:26 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6snh325

JNA17
01-28-2012, 01:26 PM
also, if the lakers got jose, hellcrooner would ejaculate.

His dream is basically:

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Jose Calderon
SF: Rudy Fernadez
PF: Pau Gasol
C: Marc Gasol

reffahead
01-28-2012, 01:32 PM
The league is saturated with decent points right now. His trade value was high a couple of years back...

Rapsjaysleafs
01-28-2012, 01:38 PM
The league is saturated with decent points right now. His trade value was high a couple of years back...

Decent point guards that can be had for very little?

I would also argue he is a LITTLE better than decent. Not great, but a bit better than decent.

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-28-2012, 01:40 PM
Another good point guard available that the Knicks won't go after...(Nate, Arenas, even Mike James now...) Why not Toney Douglass and Bill Walker... 2 mil for Douglass next year and Walker comes off the books...WENEED A PG!! Desperate times, desperate measures...

You already stole Baron Davis from the Lakers, quit complaining man.

LanceUpperCut
01-28-2012, 01:40 PM
Jose could turn a team like the knicks around for sure or turn the Lakers into a legit contender. His d might not be great but like most players there teams style and play always make them look better or worse. Jose is healthy this year unlike the last two which made him a step slow and hurt his jumper.
I will say without Jose and an injured Bargs Raptors will make the bobcats look like the dream team. Either way trade or stay I hope Jose the best a real class act that give a 100% night in and out even when he was the scapegoat for many raptor fans.

Tmath
01-28-2012, 01:45 PM
Being a Laker fan I would love Calderon as well, but I don't think the Lakers have anything that Toronto would want. I agree that a three team deal would need to happen, although you do have to ask yourself if hte Lakers were willing to give up Gasol and Odom for Paul, would they be willing to trade gasol for Calderon (through a third team of course)

We would like your first rd draft pick but it looks like you guys are already getting Arenas.

AntwanN21
01-28-2012, 01:45 PM
I doubt the Raptors give him up for a late first round draft pick like the Lakers. We are really in no rush to trade him, as we can simply amnesty him after this year if we need the cap space in the summer.

Tmath
01-28-2012, 01:46 PM
If the lakers have their first round pick I wouldn't say they have nothing the the raps would want .

The Lakers have the Mavs draft pick.

HouRealCoach
01-28-2012, 01:48 PM
He could go to Orlando

Cal827
01-28-2012, 01:55 PM
Hope he gets dealt to a good situation. The guy deserves it for being so loyal to the franchise, despite all of the crap he had to endure. He was traded last year for Chandler before MJ vetoed it and sent Chandler to Dallas.

LA I know would be interested, but I'm not exactly sure if Toronto would eat a bad contract on the way back (Luke Walton) unless picks and prospects were also part of the deal. There would likely have to be another team.

Tmath
01-28-2012, 01:57 PM
He could go to Orlando

He would be great for Orlando. Jameer for Calderon could work.

ILUVLA
01-28-2012, 02:07 PM
He would be great for Orlando. Jameer for Calderon could work.

yeah, go ask some orlando fans if they would go for that...

Tmath
01-28-2012, 02:14 PM
yeah, go ask some orlando fans if they would go for that...

Jameer Nelson avg 8 pts 5 ast

Jose Calderon avg 10 pts 8 ast

Not a bad deal for them at all. He actually fits their system much better then the Raptors.

I don't like Jameer because he is a good player, I want him for his expiring contract.

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-28-2012, 02:14 PM
Lakers have nothing to offer, they're not in the running for Calderon. Which 3rd team would want to help us?

Tmath
01-28-2012, 02:17 PM
Lakers have nothing to offer, they're not in the running for Calderon. Which 3rd team would want to help us?

Houtons pick would be fine by me.

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-28-2012, 02:21 PM
Houtons pick would be fine by me.

You mean the Dallas pick we got in the LO trade?

Jenceman
01-28-2012, 02:22 PM
The Lakers could go with a three team trade. I would give up whatever it takes outside of the Big 3 to get Calderon. He literally solves nearly all of the Lakers problems. Couldn't be a more dreamy fit.

Lakers have two first round picks :shrug:.

Tmath
01-28-2012, 02:23 PM
You mean the Dallas pick we got in the LO trade?

Yeah wrong texas team, my bad.

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-28-2012, 02:24 PM
The Lakers could go with a three team trade. I would give up whatever it takes outside of the Big 3 to get Calderon. He literally solves nearly all of the Lakers problems. Couldn't be a more dreamy fit.

Lakers have two first round picks :shrug:.

But I doubt the Lakers just add payroll like that without shedding salary themselves. With the luxury tax, that'll be like adding an extra 20Mil to our payroll.

Jenceman
01-28-2012, 02:29 PM
But I doubt the Lakers just add payroll like that without shedding salary themselves. With the luxury tax, that'll be like adding an extra 20Mil to our payroll.

Well obviously a third team has to come into the fold. This seems to be a very difficult trade to pull off, but both Fisher and Waltons deals expire after NEXT season, maybe a team would be willing to get out of a slightly longer contract by accepting those players. Hell maybe the Raptors would like to get out of Amir Johnson's contract so Ed Davis can get more playing time. Who knows, it's just a dream right now for the Lakers, albeit a very pleasant one.

3mikee_
01-28-2012, 02:29 PM
as a raps fan I'd love to see something happen with this sorry excuse of a team. He would definitely help a struggling offence like the Lakers or the Knicks.. and hopefully we can get some young talent in return.

TheNumber37
01-28-2012, 02:38 PM
Lakers need him... Knicks need him more.

mike_noodles
01-28-2012, 02:42 PM
Three things need to be looked at...

1. Who needs a PG that can run the offense and take care of the ball?

2. Who has roughly $10 mill in expirings or $7 mill in exprirings plus a solid young player they are willing to part with.

Out of those teams, who has a 1st round pick?

That should narrow it down to a handful of teams, because this is what they should be looking to do with him.

silverbrad
01-28-2012, 02:46 PM
You already stole Baron Davis from the Lakers, quit complaining man.

If u want Baron I'll give em back to u yesterday...we need a pg who is actually gonna play, in basketball shape and pass first. Baron isn't even good enough to play well in Knicks PRACTICE right now!!! And thats against some of the worst pg's in the league!!! Besides I think Blake is pretty good when he's not hurt... better than anything on the Knicks right now...

silverbrad
01-28-2012, 02:47 PM
lakers need him... Knicks need him more.

yes^^^

jeter 2
01-28-2012, 02:50 PM
I hope they amnesty him.

numba1CHANGsta
01-28-2012, 02:55 PM
Lakers trade 1st round pick+2nd round pick for Calderon

Sadds The Gr8
01-28-2012, 02:58 PM
I wouldn't mind the Lakers 1st for Calderon

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-28-2012, 02:59 PM
I wouldn't mind the Lakers 1st for Calderon

We have 2 1st rd picks, one of them from the LO trade from Dallas.

FriedTofuz
01-28-2012, 02:59 PM
I've been saying it for a while he'd be perfect on the lakers. A trade for TPE would be fine with me, Although, I dont think the raptors gm bryan colangelo would just want to trade jose for just TPE, he may try to aquire a first round pick if he was talking to the lakers.

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-28-2012, 03:00 PM
I've been saying it for a while he'd be perfect on the lakers. A trade for TPE would be fine with me, Although, I dont think the raptors gm bryan colangelo would just want to trade jose for just TPE, he may try to aquire a first round pick if he was talking to the lakers.

Our TPE is not big enough to absorb Jose's contract.

thunderforce
01-28-2012, 03:04 PM
Yes I do believe it is .

Sadds The Gr8
01-28-2012, 03:04 PM
We have 2 1st rd picks, one of them from the LO trade from Dallas.

I'd prefer the Dallas one...I think u guys will finish above them

BALLER R
01-28-2012, 03:10 PM
Good to see I wasn't the only one that have thought for the longest time that jose is a perfect fit on the lakers

BHF
01-28-2012, 03:12 PM
if we trade jose ill be the happiest raps fan ever ill give jose for a 1st rd and a bag of chips
hell just the bag of chips will do

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 03:14 PM
His dream is basically:

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Jose Calderon
SF: Rudy Fernadez
PF: Pau Gasol
C: Marc Gasol

i have that every summer.

FriedTofuz
01-28-2012, 03:15 PM
Good to see I wasn't the only one that have thought for the longest time that jose is a perfect fit on the lakers

Great minds think alike! He would have instant chemistry with Pau and Kapono too.

FriedTofuz
01-28-2012, 03:20 PM
His dream is basically:

PG: Ricky Rubio
SG: Jose Calderon
SF: Rudy Fernadez
PF: Pau Gasol
C: Marc Gasol
Thats true, but his dream becomes reality every summer

also, if the lakers got jose, hellcrooner would ejaculate.

He would!


i have that every summer.

LOL your dream becomes reality when they play on the spanish national team

BALLER R
01-28-2012, 03:22 PM
Great minds think alike! He would have instant chemistry with Pau and Kapono too.

lol It's a perfect fit just hope the lakers can find a 3rd team and get something done

FriedTofuz
01-28-2012, 03:22 PM
any team who can give the raptors an expiring or take his contract straight up with a first round draft pick should be enough. I know there are a few teams looking for a PG, the knicks are one of them. Althoug, I would like calderon on the lakers.

rockbottom2010
01-28-2012, 03:24 PM
Lakers should be pushing hard to get this guy! If not straight up look for a 3rd team.

lakers are stupid....they are going after arenas....

FriedTofuz
01-28-2012, 03:26 PM
Lakers are trying to sign arenas, He may be a cheaper investment. I have a feeling him and metta world peace would be scraping in the locker room.

TO Rapz
01-28-2012, 03:27 PM
would the lakers do 2 1sts for jose?

FriedTofuz
01-28-2012, 03:31 PM
would the lakers do 2 1sts for jose?

I wouldnt. Two first round picks is a lot to ask from us. However, It would be great for the raptors to aquire two first rounders

reffahead
01-28-2012, 03:37 PM
To be honest the Lakers shouldn't give any picks for Calderon. The TE is enough and only 8.9 million and good luck finding a third team to help.

The Dallas pick is top 20 protected, it's probably 50-50 the Lakers can receive it in June.

BHF
01-28-2012, 03:38 PM
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/57228102.jpg/

blastmasta26
01-28-2012, 03:41 PM
Knicks could really use Calderon. Too bad they have nothing to offer.

FriedTofuz
01-28-2012, 03:45 PM
To be honest the Lakers shouldn't give any picks for Calderon. The TE is enough and only 8.9 million and good luck finding a third team to help.

The Dallas pick is top 20 protected, it's probably 50-50 the Lakers can receive it in June.
Look at it this way, The lakers would be getting calderon practicaly for free :laugh2: we have to have some fair trades or they would not get done.

Cal827
01-28-2012, 03:48 PM
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/57228102.jpg/

Now that's what I call a deal! lol

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 03:54 PM
ok, lets check.

Who would need calderon?

No:Celtics/Sixers/Wizards/Bobcats/Bucks/Bulls/Cavs/Blazers/Nuggets/Thunder/spurs/rockets/CLippers/Warriors

Yes:Knicks/Jazz(want to move Harris)/Hornets/Lakers


Maybe: nets ( if deron istraded)/Magic/Heat/Hawks/Pacers/Pistons/wolves/grizzlies/Mavs ( kidd is aging)/Suns (nash leaving)/Kings

Not a very long list i must say.

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 03:55 PM
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/57228102.jpg/

You sir need a mental check

scutch11
01-28-2012, 03:56 PM
It's really sad that the Knicks couldn't even make an offer if they wanted to. He could really help...

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 03:59 PM
It's really sad that the Knicks couldn't even make an offer if they wanted to. He could really help...

they could offer stou for calderon and Bargs.....

JLynn943
01-28-2012, 04:01 PM
I'd love him on the Kings, but we already have 3 PGs...

THE GIPPER
01-28-2012, 04:08 PM
they could offer stou for calderon and Bargs.....

No way the raps would do that Bargs has been better than Amare this year.

Sadds The Gr8
01-28-2012, 04:28 PM
would the lakers do 2 1sts for jose?

If Buss was on some serious crack then maybe

Raps08-09 Champ
01-28-2012, 04:30 PM
I want him here but his contract makes it hard.

Not sure who needs a PG.

Would the Knicks be interested in a Calderon for Fields type deal?

Tmath
01-28-2012, 04:45 PM
they could offer stou for calderon and Bargs.....

:laugh:

LakersMaster24
01-28-2012, 04:54 PM
Ebanks + 1st Rounder is something I would do if Dwight was completely out of the picture.

BHF
01-28-2012, 04:54 PM
You sir need a mental check

keep crying :cry:

skoobiesnax69
01-28-2012, 04:55 PM
amare and balkman for calderon, bargnani anthony carter

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 04:56 PM
No way the raps would do that Bargs has been better than Amare this year.

I answered to what they COULD offer, doesnt mean toronto has to accept.

I must say tough that probably amare would fit better at Raps since he is a BIT more of a presence inside whilst Bargs, playing alongside CHANDLER to make up for his defense could trhive in knicks.

mvb815
01-28-2012, 04:57 PM
ugh, it's things like this that make me a frustrated raptors fan

if we were going to trade jose so early in the season why the hell didn't we draft kemba walker.

i have high hopes for next year, so if it has to happen, i'd want the mavs 1st rounded from the lakers

scutch11
01-28-2012, 04:58 PM
they could offer stou for calderon and Bargs.....

I meant a realistic offer. Not that the one you proposed is unfair, but the Knicks aren't trading Stat for anyone other than DWill or Dwight just because they've invested so much in him and Melo and would have to get a star back if they trade him

John Walls Era
01-28-2012, 04:59 PM
ugh, it's things like this that make me a frustrated raptors fan

if we were going to trade jose so early in the season why the hell didn't we draft kemba walker.

i have high hopes for next year, so if it has to happen, i'd want the mavs 1st rounded from the lakers

You don't want Kemba. There are PGs who are better in the next 2 drafts that won't be selected high (because of the talent at other positions).

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 05:00 PM
I meant a realistic offer. Not that the one you proposed is unfair, but the Knicks aren't trading Stat for anyone other than DWill or Dwight just because they've invested so much in him and Melo and would have to get a star back if they trade him

you cant imaigne HOW MUCH BETTER you would do with Jose and Bargs in exchange for Stoy.

Raps08-09 Champ
01-28-2012, 05:00 PM
Something that would be perfect is Calderon for Chris Kaman type deal.

Raptors get a big man while Hornets get another PG.

scutch11
01-28-2012, 05:02 PM
you cant imaigne HOW MUCH BETTER you would do with Jose and Bargs in exchange for Stoy.

I don't disagree, I'm just saying there is no way the Knick's front office especially Dolan would do it. Bargs has prob been playing better than Stat this year by himself and Calderon is a huge upgrade on Douglas/Shumpert

C-Style
01-28-2012, 05:05 PM
Lakers + Calderon = Match made in heaven

ramz.n
01-28-2012, 05:08 PM
As a raptors fan..getting picks is priority #1..trading calderon and letting bayless start could increase his value and to show the organization whether he will be the pg of the future or they need to draft...some fans on here may believe 2 1st round picks may he asking for to much..but that may not be the case if the pick is in the 20-30 range..if you are a contending team..calderon will have a bigger impact now on winning a championship than the picks being given up.

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 05:09 PM
As a raptors fan..getting picks is priority #1..trading calderon and letting bayless start could increase his value and to show the organization whether he will be the pg of the future or they need to draft...some fans on here may believe 2 1st round picks may he asking for to much..but that may not be the case if the pick is in the 20-30 range..if you are a contending team..calderon will have a bigger impact now on winning a championship than the picks being given up.

theres nothing to check, bayless is not the pg of the future.

dude is not tall enought to play sg wich is what his skills would fit to, he will never be a good Pg.

Tmath
01-28-2012, 05:13 PM
ugh, it's things like this that make me a frustrated raptors fan

if we were going to trade jose so early in the season why the hell didn't we draft kemba walker.

i have high hopes for next year, so if it has to happen, i'd want the mavs 1st rounded from the lakers

Because Valanciunas is going to be much better than Walker.

JasonJohnHorn
01-28-2012, 05:16 PM
The two teams that NEED him are NY and LA. Toronto needs to see what the best deal is they can get from either of these two teams. Miami would be better off with Jose than Chamlbers (I think), but at the same time Chamlbers is a PG that doesn't mind letting LBJ and Wade bring the ball up and Jose wouldnt be as effective, but still an upgrade.

Thing is, none of these teams have anything worth offering, unless NY is willing to trade of Fields with some picks. I dunno even think LA has much to offer other thank picks. Its a shame because Jose could really help both of these teams.

scutch11
01-28-2012, 05:18 PM
The two teams that NEED him are NY and LA. Toronto needs to see what the best deal is they can get from either of these two teams. Miami would be better off with Jose than Chamlbers (I think), but at the same time Chamlbers is a PG that doesn't mind letting LBJ and Wade bring the ball up and Jose wouldnt be as effective, but still an upgrade.

Thing is, none of these teams have anything worth offering, unless NY is willing to trade of Fields with some picks. I dunno even think LA has much to offer other thank picks. Its a shame because Jose could really help both of these teams.

That wouldn't work, Fields makes less than 1 mil a year and Calderon makes more than 9 mil...the only Knick's players who make close to that are Melo Stat and Tyson and they aren't trading them

Hellcrooner
01-28-2012, 05:19 PM
The two teams that NEED him are NY and LA. Toronto needs to see what the best deal is they can get from either of these two teams. Miami would be better off with Jose than Chamlbers (I think), but at the same time Chamlbers is a PG that doesn't mind letting LBJ and Wade bring the ball up and Jose wouldnt be as effective, but still an upgrade.

Thing is, none of these teams have anything worth offering, unless NY is willing to trade of Fields with some picks. I dunno even think LA has much to offer other thank picks. Its a shame because Jose could really help both of these teams.
they could take a chance on two of the youngsters ( morris, Goudelock, Ebanks, characters) + blake as replacemente pg and a pick

Raps08-09 Champ
01-28-2012, 05:19 PM
Raptors offer Jose Calderon, Gary Forbes and Rasual Butler for Chris Kaman and Xavier Henry/Al-Farouq Aminu.

leftymo
01-28-2012, 05:19 PM
He would be perfect for the Lakers! Long shot. We have no pieces to trade, not even for him.


WOW. I think you need to take a better look at the Lakers. 2 first round picks, a trade exception of 8 million, a 4-5 million dollar expiring contract, not to mention Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol two allstar big men.

Granted I wouldn't move either big for an AVERAGE (yes i said it) PG...


Nobody is going to confuse calderon with Rose, Paul, Deron... but his numbers show that he's probably around 12-15th in the league in PG's... maybe better, maybe worse.

So if Toronto wants cap relief and picks, the Lakers can offer that. If Toronto wants a significant player, they'll need to part with their draft pick.

dtmagnet
01-28-2012, 05:25 PM
He won't be amnestied mid-season or traded for an expiring. They would only amnesty him as a last resort if signing a big free agent like Deron Williams. He is very valuable to the Raptors in terms of helping the young players develop, I don't see a trade happening with anyone simply because of the asking price.

dtmagnet
01-28-2012, 05:27 PM
WOW. I think you need to take a better look at the Lakers. 2 first round picks, a trade exception of 8 million, a 4-5 million dollar expiring contract, not to mention Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol two allstar big men.

Granted I wouldn't move either big for an AVERAGE (yes i said it) PG...


Nobody is going to confuse calderon with Rose, Paul, Deron... but his numbers show that he's probably around 12-15th in the league in PG's... maybe better, maybe worse.

So if Toronto wants cap relief and picks, the Lakers can offer that. If Toronto wants a significant player, they'll need to part with their draft pick.

It would take both your first rounders at a minimum, and forget about getting our draft pick.

Cal827
01-28-2012, 05:43 PM
Hey Miami, you want to see How Calderon Helps Chris Bosh? :D

raptor fan
01-28-2012, 05:47 PM
I mentioned this in the raptors forum, but sending Calderon to the Lakers makes perfect sense.

Trade 1: Calderon for TPE & 1st round Pick
Trade 2: Steve Blake for Linas Kleiza

This deal would have to be broken down into 2 deals, as I believe you can't trade a TPE with a player. If the raptors do trade Calderon, we'd be seeking a PG in return, and Steve Blake fits the bill. Kleiza's contract is very similar to Blake's, and so he would probably be going back the other way.

spreadeagle
01-28-2012, 05:48 PM
Been saying Jose to lakers forever... Calderon Barbosa and Ed Davis For Gasol??? his name has been on block all season it seems too and Barbosa would be great at SF for the lakers and Ed is a young big with lots of potential....or to NY for Shumpert or Tony Douglas and a future first rounder and some sallary fillers would be nice,He would be great in there trust me NY fans,his only downside is D but with Chandler behind him he will be fine,he would dish 15 ast a night to mello

J4KOP99
01-28-2012, 05:49 PM
CroonerMania!!!!!

Cal827
01-28-2012, 05:50 PM
I love Calderon but I want a deal done ASAP. He's making us win games, and the reality is that our team probably needs to lose as much possible in order to get a higher pick.

dsonLAL24
01-28-2012, 06:04 PM
lakers are getting arenas!! hahahaa

cdnsportsfan
01-28-2012, 07:40 PM
Draft picks and expiring contracts are the best thing for the Raptors in whatever move they make. I'd say that Calderon would be a better fit with the Lakers than Arenas since Jose is a facilitator first, he'd be looking to get the ball to Kobe and Pau first and foremost. But LA can do what they want obviously.

There still are teams out there in need of a PG, most notably the Knicks, and taking back anything (prefer useful but if it's bad it can be the amnesty) plus a pick would be excellent.

Toronto needs bodies, plain and simple, and landing a couple picks in this draft, to go along with Jonas arriving next season, would really help the Raps rebuild starting next season. They have a decent group of supporting players but can still upgrade those role players - and obviously they need a stud player. Bargs has improved this season but he's too one dimensional, he's no superstar.

I'd say in another 2-3 seasons the Raps will have a pretty good team built up and making a playoff run, and it would definitely be the case if they can manage to bring something back for Jose.

mike_noodles
01-28-2012, 08:18 PM
Draft picks and expiring contracts are the best thing for the Raptors in whatever move they make. I'd say that Calderon would be a better fit with the Lakers than Arenas since Jose is a facilitator first, he'd be looking to get the ball to Kobe and Pau first and foremost. But LA can do what they want obviously.

There still are teams out there in need of a PG, most notably the Knicks, and taking back anything (prefer useful but if it's bad it can be the amnesty) plus a pick would be excellent.

Toronto needs bodies, plain and simple, and landing a couple picks in this draft, to go along with Jonas arriving next season, would really help the Raps rebuild starting next season. They have a decent group of supporting players but can still upgrade those role players - and obviously they need a stud player. Bargs has improved this season but he's too one dimensional, he's no superstar.

I'd say in another 2-3 seasons the Raps will have a pretty good team built up and making a playoff run, and it would definitely be the case if they can manage to bring something back for Jose.

Unfortunately you cannot amnesty a player who is acquired after the CBA was finalized. Just expirings and picks will have to do ;)

Hellcrooner
01-29-2012, 01:17 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6myyqos

thats how lakers make it, 1 pick to raps

Raps08-09 Champ
01-29-2012, 01:20 AM
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6myyqos

thats how lakers make it, 1 pick to raps

What exactly do the Hornets gain in that trade?

Hellcrooner
01-29-2012, 01:21 AM
What exactly do the Hornets gain in that trade?

young players, some of them may pan out there with the minutes they dont have in lakers.

they are shopping kaman btw.

Raps08-09 Champ
01-29-2012, 01:31 AM
young players, some of them may pan out there with the minutes they dont have in lakers.

they are shopping kaman btw.

They want to get something good in return for Kaman though.

A Kaman-Calderon deal straight up would be better.

Celtics33
01-29-2012, 07:54 AM
It's finally time for the Raptors to move Calderon and look for a new young point guard in the near future.

heyman321
01-29-2012, 12:50 PM
Moving Calderon is a terrible idea for the Raptors. Just because the Lakers need one doesn't mean they are going to give him away. He is playing well and who would the Raps be left with? Jerryd bayless starting at the one? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

knicks=love
01-29-2012, 08:54 PM
Send him to New York for Iman Shumpert !!:D

shumpert has a lot more potential. no way i give him up.