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Mr. Baller
01-16-2012, 09:16 AM
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Location:Madison Square Garden
Time: 1:00 PM ET


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Location: Fedex Forum
Time: 1:00 PM ET


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Location: Wells Fargo Centers
Time: 2:00 PM ET


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Location: Verizon Center
Time: 2:00 PM ET


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Location: Time Warner Cable Arena
Time: 2:00 PM ET


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Location: New Orleans Arena
Time: 3:00 PM ET


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Location: Staples Center
Time: 3:30 PM ET


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Location: Phillips Arena
Time: 4:00 PM ET


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Location: TD Garden
Time: 8:00 PM ET


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Location: Target Center
Time: 8:00 PM ET


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Location: Staples Center
Time: 10:30 PM ET

Hawkeye15
01-16-2012, 09:34 AM
I just can't see anyway the Wolves lose to the Kings

SteBO
01-16-2012, 11:14 AM
I just can't see anyway the Wolves lose to the Kings
I dunno bro. Demarcus Cousins is just too quick off the dribble for Love to handle, and Tyreke Evans is due for 50-20-10 game....:shrug:

Hawkeye15
01-16-2012, 11:17 AM
I dunno bro. Demarcus Cousins is just too quick off the dribble for Love to handle, and Tyreke Evans is due for 50-20-10 game....:shrug:

I also forgot about Jimmer. He is going to destroy Rubio.

Alright, my Kings trolling is over. Promise.

nycericanguy
01-16-2012, 12:11 PM
I just can't see anyway the Wolves lose to the Kings

:confused: You do realize the Kings have one of the most efficient backcourts in NBA history right?

jimbobjarree
01-16-2012, 12:16 PM
is it safe to bet on the lakers again yet, or are they going into slump mode?

haggis
01-16-2012, 12:17 PM
Lunchbreak basketball :dance2:

alencp3
01-16-2012, 12:32 PM
Knicks
Bulls
Sixers
Rockets
Cavs
Blazers
Clips
Hawks
OKC
Wolves
Mavs

Baller1
01-16-2012, 12:41 PM
Gonna be at the Clipper game today! Lob City *****.

I wanna parlay a combo of OKC, LAC, Philly, Atlanta, and Orlando. Any input?

jimbobjarree
01-16-2012, 12:55 PM
Yah I mine looks the same. Took the spread on the Magic only though if I remember rightly. I also threw a Man City win in there for good measure.

Baller1
01-16-2012, 01:42 PM
Yah I mine looks the same. Took the spread on the Magic only though if I remember rightly. I also threw a Man City win in there for good measure.

I meant to take the money line, and ****ed up accidentally taking the -9 spread. Whatever, I think they'll cover. They better since I'll be there.

Hmmm... I'm thinking an OKC, Philly, Atlanta parlay.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 01:52 PM
Day basketball :dance:

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 01:57 PM
Rose isn't playing, but looks like CJ Watson is returning. Thank God. I'd rather stab my eyes with a rusty spoon than watch 40 minutes of John Lucas III.

Here's a fun, depressing fact. Of all players averaging at least 10mpg, Lucas is 2nd in the NBA in most fga per minute behind Kobe.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:02 PM
Ugh, to make matters worse, Doris Burke is announcing. First I wake up with a migraine, then Rose is out and now Doris Burke. What an awful day.

Hawkeye15
01-16-2012, 02:08 PM
Rose isn't playing, but looks like CJ Watson is returning. Thank God. I'd rather stab my eyes with a rusty spoon than watch 40 minutes of John Lucas III.

Here's a fun, depressing fact. Of all players averaging at least 10mpg, Lucas is 2nd in the NBA in most fga per minute behind Kobe.

is Lucas aware that you can actually pass the ball as a PG?

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:10 PM
is Lucas aware that you can actually pass the ball as a PG?

Apparently not. I honestly think he cares more about showcasing his supposed "ability" to land a contract elsewhere next season.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:13 PM
It's remarkable how cold our team has been offensively and below their career averages this season. Only players that have been at or above their averages are Brewer, Korver, and Rose. And yet we still are dominating thanks to a historic defensive effort this season.

I can only imagine how scary we'll be as we get our offense together.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:14 PM
Kinda happy J-Rich is hurt so JJ can start and maybe Von can get some minutes.

Sofnr
01-16-2012, 02:16 PM
I was worried about this game before and now that Rose is out it's a much bigger concern. Noah and Boozer have to showup today if the Bulls want a chance to win.

YoungOne
01-16-2012, 02:17 PM
I wanted speights as soon as he was on the tradingblock :sigh:

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:17 PM
It's remarkable how cold our team has been offensively and below their career averages this season. Only players that have been at or above their averages are Brewer, Korver, and Rose. And yet we still are dominating thanks to a historic defensive effort this season.

I can only imagine how scary we'll be as we get our offense together.

Was that honestly any different than last year? Most knowledge people felt their defense last year was the best NBA defense since the Celtics championship team...and offensively, they were about league average (ORtg, eFG%). The defense has been better this year, but that will even out. The offense actually is right about where it was last year: top 10 in ORtg, top half in eFG%...

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:18 PM
I know I'm in the minority...but I don't enjoy Clyde Frazier's announcing.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:19 PM
Kinda happy J-Rich is hurt so JJ can start and maybe Von can get some minutes.

Are you a Pats fan?


I was worried about this game before and now that Rose is out it's a much bigger concern. Noah and Boozer have to showup today if the Bulls want a chance to win.

I'm not very worried. Aside from that easy drive by Speights, they've mostly taken long 2's. They'll start missing soon. This is the type of team Thibs' defense thrives against. Gotta bait Allen, Conley and Gay into long 2's and we should get it.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:19 PM
Are you a Pats fan?

No, I just randomly have them in my sig!

Hellcrooner
01-16-2012, 02:20 PM
wtf? why games so early?

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:21 PM
Was that honestly any different than last year? Most knowledge people felt their defense last year was the best NBA defense since the Celtics championship team...and offensively, they were about league average (ORtg, eFG%). The defense has been better this year, but that will even out. The offense actually is right about where it was last year: top 10 in ORtg, top half in eFG%...

The weird thing is that our o-rating is top 10 this season as you mentioned. Plus Rip hasn't even played yet and will make things so much easier as another pick and roll player. I said it before, the goal of this season should be to maintain themselves as the number one defense and get in the top 8 at offense.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:22 PM
wtf? why games so early?

It's a holiday here. Martin Luther King Jr. Day...

Hawkeye15
01-16-2012, 02:22 PM
wtf? why games so early?

MLK day

Iron24th
01-16-2012, 02:22 PM
wtf? why games so early?

MLK day anyone?

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:22 PM
No, I just randomly have them in my sig!

:laugh2:

Maybe you lost a sig bet. :laugh2:

I would have taken you as a Steelers fan.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:24 PM
:laugh2:

Maybe you lost a sig bet. :laugh2:

I would have taken you as a Steelers fan.

No, no, no, no, no. I hate the Steelers. I only moved to Pittsburgh for college...I can't stand the Steelers :laugh2:

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 02:25 PM
Yikes...Amare is so bad this year from the field .410

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:26 PM
No, no, no, no, no. I hate the Steelers. I only moved to Pittsburgh for college...I can't stand the Steelers :laugh2:

Are you from the New England area? In which case if you are, why are you an Orlando and not a Boston fan?

As someone who lived in Chicago all my life and loyal to all Chicago teams I never quite understood people who were fans of teams from other cities except for the typical bandwagoners who decided to conveniently root for the Yankees, Lakers, Packers and Duke.

nycericanguy
01-16-2012, 02:28 PM
Yikes...Amare is so bad this year from the field .410

he has been absolutely awful, so have fields and douglas, dont know where their skills went, its like space jam 2012.

Sofnr
01-16-2012, 02:29 PM
I'm not very worried. Aside from that easy drive by Speights, they've mostly taken long 2's. They'll start missing soon. This is the type of team Thibs' defense thrives against. Gotta bait Allen, Conley and Gay into long 2's and we should get it.

I'm more concerned about the Bulls offense without Rose.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:29 PM
Hedo will never get much attention from the media (the Magic don't really in general, aside from Dwight), but Hedo is quietly having a really good season. Kinda reverting back to his prime Magic days...

14.4 points per game on 48% shooting and 47% from three. He's been very efficient. He's averaging over 5 assists a game and 3.3 boards a game. His PER is right back up there where it was in 2007-2008, and his advanced shooting percentages are higher than ever. I'd imagine he's playing like how Stan and Co. envisioned when they traded for him.


Refs letting Chandler play really physical against Dwight, and Dwight just snapped for a tech. He's impossible to officiate fairly, much like Shaq. He's so big, and the hard shots and hits on him don't ever look like anything. Explains why he gets so frustrated, but he needs to not snap. He said he was going to try to curb his technicals, and he has, but he's just gotta not let it get to him. But he's been getting hit hard all season...

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:30 PM
I'm more concerned about the Bulls offense without Rose.

Considering how bad Memphis's offense has been this season, I'm not too worried. It'll be a defensive struggle and I like our chances in that regard

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:31 PM
Are you from the New England area? In which case if you are, why are you an Orlando and not a Boston fan?

As someone who lived in Chicago all my life and loyal to all Chicago teams I never quite understood people who were fans of teams from other cities except for the typical bandwagoners who decided to conveniently root for the Yankees, Lakers, Packers and Duke.

I was born in the Boston area, but my parents are Florida alums and I spent a lot of time growing up there. I don't feel an allegience to any city really, since I can call basically 4 of them my home now...I pretty much root for the teams my dad roots for, which means the Gators (his school), the Magic (his favorite sports team, and the team I've seen play live most in my life)...and then when I was young I took a liking to the Sox and Pats, even though they sucked, and stuck with them. I've lived in 4 different places now for 4 years+ each...so yeah...

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:33 PM
I was born in the Boston area, but my parents are Florida alums and I spent a lot of time growing up there. I don't feel an allegience to any city really, since I can call basically 4 of them my home now...I pretty much root for the teams my dad roots for, which means the Gators (his school), the Magic (his favorite sports team, and the team I've seen play live most in my life)...and then when I was young I took a liking to the Sox and Pats, even though they sucked, and stuck with them. I've lived in 4 different places now for 4 years+ each...so yeah...

Makes sense. I'll say one thing; the most annoying thing I find is the number of Packer fans who claim their dad at one point was in Wisconsin. It's the same excuse for every Packer fan not from Wisconsin which is like 90% of the Packer fanbase.

Punk
01-16-2012, 02:33 PM
Landry Fields pisses me off. Chandler is clearly keeping Dwight out of the deep post but he decides to double and let Reddick hit 3s. It's annoying.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 02:34 PM
9 threes already and no touches for howard looool

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:34 PM
Redick is saving our ***** right now. Doesn't seem like anyone else has shown up. Dwight isn't getting any touches, and when he does, he's not getting shots. Jameer continues to play incredibly passive, which is such an offense killer for us...Anderson has been cold

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:35 PM
Makes sense. I'll say one thing; the most annoying thing I find is the number of Packer fans who claim their dad at one point was in Wisconsin. It's the same excuse for every Packer fan not from Wisconsin which is like 90% of the Packer fanbase.

Well yeah, and I get that it looks fishy that I like Boston and Florida teams, but honestly, I don't care what people think :laugh2: I have my reasons, they're the teams I've rooted for literally my whole life, and that's that.

Whatever. People can root for who they want. Not worth me worrying about.


JJ can't be contained!

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:37 PM
Well yeah, and I get that it looks fishy that I like Boston and Florida teams, but honestly, I don't care what people think :laugh2: I have my reasons, they're the teams I've rooted for literally my whole life, and that's that.

Whatever. People can root for who they want. Not worth me worrying about.


JJ can't be contained!

Oh I wouldn't accuse you of such considering Orlando isn't exactly a typical team for bandwagoners. :laugh2:

Punk
01-16-2012, 02:39 PM
Toney Douglas, Bill Walker never need to play in the NBA again.

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 02:40 PM
wat the hell their playing at 1pm wat the hell on a Monday 2 so weird

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:40 PM
Oh I wouldn't accuse you of such considering Orlando isn't exactly a typical team for bandwagoners. :laugh2:

Definitely not...


Magic playing like butt right now. Doing nothing to break down this Knick defense...just playing right into their hands. Taking bad shots, not moving the ball...ugh.

Surprised how well Memphis is doing offensively too. They've been pretty darn bad this year on offense...

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:41 PM
Definitely not...


Magic playing like butt right now. Doing nothing to break down this Knick defense...just playing right into their hands. Taking bad shots, not moving the ball...ugh.

Surprised how well Memphis is doing offensively too. They've been pretty darn bad this year on offense...

Eh, they're making alot of long mid range shots; I wouldn't hold my breath.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:42 PM
Toney Douglas, Bill Walker never need to play in the NBA again.

Douglas has attacked the rim both times now...

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 02:43 PM
wat the hell their playing at 1pm wat the hell on a Monday 2 so weird

you know what day is:eyebrow:

bulldog312
01-16-2012, 02:43 PM
wat the hell their playing at 1pm wat the hell on a Monday 2 so weird

It's a holiday.

Gators123
01-16-2012, 02:43 PM
I really like Asik, but does he have Kwame Brown hands?

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 02:43 PM
lmao is mike D serious with that lineup, thats even worse than lakers bench:laugh:

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:44 PM
Toney Douglas, Bill Walker never need to play in the NBA again.

But I'll concede about Walker after he missed the rim by like a foot there...


Baby has finally shown up to Orlando. Finally playing hard and a bit wiser.

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 02:45 PM
Stuck in school for MLK day. Canada is a racist country (nope I'm not being sarcastic :rolleyes:).

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:45 PM
I really like Asik, but does he have Kwame Brown hands?

Worse.

I LOVE Asik, but he's SO inept offensively.

Defensively though, he's a beast.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:45 PM
lmao is mike D serious with that lineup, thats even worse than lakers bench:laugh:

I mean, we have Duhon, Qunetin Richardson, Von Wafer, Ryan Anderson and Glen Davis out there. Not really anything to be bragging about ourselves :laugh2:


Douglas is playing well. Asserting himself and playing much more aggressively.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:46 PM
Stuck in school for MLK day. Canada is a racist country (nope I'm not being sarcastic :rolleyes:).

Til last year, my college used to have school on MLK day as well. In their defense, we have school on all national holidays.

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 02:46 PM
WTF Melo is playing... just wasted money on the Magic.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 02:46 PM
amare with his go to move aka offensive foul, 3 fouls now

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 02:47 PM
Til last year, my college used to have school on MLK day as well. In their defense, we have school on all national holidays.

:pity:

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:48 PM
:pity:

Agreed.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:48 PM
Quentin and Big Baby carrying the bench right now. Wow.

We need this from Glen though, glad he's finally doing something good.

Impressed with Harrellson actually. Watching him in college I never expected him to be an NBA player...but he's got some good offensive skills, and can hit the three too.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 02:48 PM
WTF Melo is playing... just wasted money on the Magic.

dont worry magic still will win

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:49 PM
I love Watson. Watching him play instead of Lucas the turd is SO nice. At least he's attacking and getting to the line.

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 02:49 PM
dont worry magic still will win

Not looking good. Just by reading the box score it seems the Knicks are playing D. :speechless:

Hellcrooner
01-16-2012, 02:50 PM
MLK day

OK.
didnt knew that was today.

Punk
01-16-2012, 02:50 PM
D'antoni is an awful coach when it comes to rotations. Let's leave our 7 foot low post scoring center on the bench and go with Jeffries. Great logic.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:51 PM
My God, Deng has been absolutely cold from 3 this season.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:52 PM
Rudy Gay taking a contested shot right inside the 3pt line; that's the Rudy Gay we know and love.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 02:54 PM
Not looking good. Just by reading the box score it seems the Knicks are playing D. :speechless:

It's OK defense, but really more a case of bad offense. Bad shots and no ball movement. Also, not giving Dwight any touches.

Punk
01-16-2012, 02:55 PM
I'm on the verge of putting myself on the Amare for Howard bandwagon. He's kinda useless these days and he seems depressed, I wonder if it's a personal thing.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:57 PM
I'm on the verge of putting myself on the Amare for Howard bandwagon. He's kinda useless these days and he seems depressed, I wonder if it's a personal thing.

I thought that would kind of be a no-brainer if you have the opportunity...

justinnum1
01-16-2012, 02:58 PM
what a dunk!

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 02:58 PM
Now imagine if Rudy Gay was intelligent enough to do that MORE often.

Punk
01-16-2012, 02:58 PM
Wow Dwight and Tyson are going at it like a WWE match lol

bovice163
01-16-2012, 02:59 PM
Man, Booz has been blowing his defensive assignment the whole time so far.

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:00 PM
Knicks dominating the paint :laugh2:

Sofnr
01-16-2012, 03:00 PM
I'm on the verge of putting myself on the Amare for Howard bandwagon. He's kinda useless these days and he seems depressed, I wonder if it's a personal thing.

Was there really a time you preferred Amare to Howard?

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:01 PM
And Dwight misses both.

Shoot them underhand!

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:01 PM
The score doesn't tell the whole story We are down 20 if magics hit those wide open threes

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:01 PM
I'm on the verge of putting myself on the Amare for Howard bandwagon. He's kinda useless these days and he seems depressed, I wonder if it's a personal thing.

Odom syndrom?

justinnum1
01-16-2012, 03:02 PM
Man, Booz has been blowing his defensive assignment the whole time so far.

I saw one possession where he bodied up well, didnt foul...he looks like he is a little faster than last season

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:02 PM
And Dwight misses both.

Shoot them underhand!

I remember when Raph kept clamoring that Dwight would shoot 70+ percent from there (it might have been 65+, not sure...).

bovice163
01-16-2012, 03:04 PM
I saw one possession where he bodied up well, didnt foul...he looks like he is a little faster than last season

Yeah he's a bit more explosive, but he's still so unbearably slow guys can just cut around him, or get in front of him and draw the charge when he's driving to the bucket. That's probably why he's taking all these jumpers.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:04 PM
No excuses. We aren't hustling nor playing smart. Memphis came to play and are bitter from that drumming earlier this season. They've played like the much better team thus far.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:06 PM
58 points in the first half. Not having Rose obviously is crippling, but this is domination. I didn't think the defense wouldn't show up.

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:06 PM
Baron Davis practicing on thursday? Hmmm.

bovice163
01-16-2012, 03:07 PM
This is definitely revenge for Memphis. We blew them out when they were shorthanded, and now they're returning the favor. I never thought I'd say this, but DRoses defense on Conley would be really nice right about now.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:08 PM
Magic playing like dummies. Just bailing the Knicks out every play...fouling like a bunch of idiots.

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:09 PM
Was there really a time you preferred Amare to Howard?

No but I do not like the idea of trading for a guy who isn't mentioning your team as a option.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:09 PM
58 points in the first half. Not having Rose obviously is crippling, but this is domination. I didn't think the defense wouldn't show up.

It's the TOs more than anything. We are giving them WAY too many fast break opportunities and when you have guys like Gay, Conley, Selby, Mayo and Allen: all very athletic, you are going to get killed as we are seeing today. our defense has been worse than usual, but it's really the easy fastbreak point that killed us. This game is very much the repeat of Knicks vs Memphis the other day. You absolutely CANNOT give them TOs or they will destroy you.

Our team is good at making adjustments, but I'm not sure it'll be enough without Rose.

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:10 PM
That's a terrible call. Both guys have fouled each other harder than that and they got away with it. WTF.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:11 PM
I remember when Raph kept clamoring that Dwight would shoot 70+ percent from there (it might have been 65+, not sure...).

Every off-season we hear the same thing from Dwight's camp, and this off-season was no different. Like Shaq was allegedly a great practice FT shooter, they say the same about Dwight...

He just got his first points, sinking two at the line with under two minutes left in the 2nd.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:12 PM
I hate when uneducated analysts try to use puns or advanced vocabulary. They usually sound like idiots.

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:12 PM
Lol Dwight and Jeffries getting into it

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:12 PM
Every off-season we hear the same thing from Dwight's camp, and this off-season was no different. Like Shaq was allegedly a great practice FT shooter, they say the same about Dwight...

He just got his first points, sinking two at the line with under two minutes left in the 2nd.

Like any other team after an offseason. It's all nice and dreamy during the offseason; then reality hits.

Hellcrooner
01-16-2012, 03:13 PM
Wah, memphis is beating the **** out of Bulls.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:13 PM
I hate when uneducated analysts try to use puns or advanced vocabulary. They usually sound like idiots.

Is Wilbon doing the halftime show?


Dwight getting a little frustrated now...

And bricks both FTs :laugh:

God dammit Dwight.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:13 PM
Dwight is so bad at the line

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 03:14 PM
Love me some Ryan Anderson.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:14 PM
Maybe like 4-5 times a year I'll be vocal against officiating when my team is playing...this is one of those. I just don't like the consistency of things. They're killing all the tempo of the game right now I feel like.

5ass
01-16-2012, 03:15 PM
melo getting superstar calls on clark..

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:15 PM
Is Wilbon doing the halftime show?


Dwight getting a little frustrated now...

And bricks both FTs :laugh:

God dammit Dwight.

Na, Wilbon is at least educated enough to sound eloquent when he talks. He did go to Northwestern after all...

It's Jalen Rose.


Wah, memphis is beating the **** out of Bulls.

Yes. And Marc Gasol is Based God. Now that we got that out of the way...

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:16 PM
Melo with 20 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists at halftime. Get your shyt together STAT!

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:17 PM
melo getting superstar calls on clark..

He clearly hit his arm...

nycericanguy
01-16-2012, 03:17 PM
It's the TOs more than anything. We are giving them WAY too many fast break opportunities and when you have guys like Gay, Conley, Selby, Mayo and Allen: all very athletic, you are going to get killed as we are seeing today. our defense has been worse than usual, but it's really the easy fastbreak point that killed us. This game is very much the repeat of Knicks vs Memphis the other day. You absolutely CANNOT give them TOs or they will destroy you.

Our team is good at making adjustments, but I'm not sure it'll be enough without Rose.

maybe i'm only catching them on their good days, but MEM's defense is no joke. They killed NY and forced so many turnovers.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:18 PM
The knicks are better without amare

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:18 PM
Na, Wilbon is at least educated enough to sound eloquent when he talks. He did go to Northwestern after all...

It's Jalen Rose.


Wilbon can speak well and is obviously very intelligent and book smart, but he never says anything of substance. Incredibly uninformative and uninsightful...just not very smart when it comes to basketball I feel like. Great TV host, poor analyst.

Rose is pretty poor, I agree.

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:19 PM
If this team can get a 7th or 8th it would be a blessing

Hellcrooner
01-16-2012, 03:19 PM
Na, Wilbon is at least educated enough to sound eloquent when he talks. He did go to Northwestern after all...

It's Jalen Rose.



Yes. And Marc Gasol is Based God. Now that we got that out of the way...

Marc is nto playing well today.

He is been inconsistent this season, good game one day crap game the following day.

shep33
01-16-2012, 03:21 PM
Man the Knicks should try and deal Amare. 3 more years and 65 more million left on his deal. He just doesn't seem to play well with Melo and Chandler

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:22 PM
maybe i'm only catching them on their good days, but MEM's defense is no joke. They killed NY and forced so many turnovers.

I agree.

They have a very good defense. Their offense isn't, though.

I'm okay with us being inefficient against them, especially without Rose. I'm not okay with committing stupid TOs and giving them easy shots as well.

I will say, however, that we've played 7 games in 9 days and this is our 8th in 11. I think fatigue is starting to hit our guys. Thankfully after playing at home against Phoenix tomorrow (which we better win), they'll finally have a much needed 2 day rest.

Plus Rip should be back on Friday. I really can't complain if we finish probably our toughest stretch in the season with a 13-3 record.

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:22 PM
The knicks are better without amare

Amare needs an above average pg Felton help him a lot

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:23 PM
Wilbon can speak well and is obviously very intelligent and book smart, but he never says anything of substance. Incredibly uninformative and uninsightful...just not very smart when it comes to basketball I feel like. Great TV host, poor analyst.

Rose is pretty poor, I agree.

I don't disagree. I'm speaking strictly in terms of speaking ability.

Jalen doesn't belong on tv in regards to analysis OR eloquent speaking, though.


Marc is nto playing well today.

He is been inconsistent this season, good game one day crap game the following day.

I'm aware. I'm just busting your balls.

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:24 PM
Man the Knicks should try and deal Amare. 3 more years and 65 more million left on his deal. He just doesn't seem to play well with Melo and Chandler

We need him to at least look decent if we going to get any type of value in return. But i want to see what he can do when we have a decent pg first

Chill_Will_24
01-16-2012, 03:24 PM
These calls are horrible. That last call on Chandler was ridiculous and Melo with more FT made than ORL has attempted. Stop with the soft calls.

Hellcrooner
01-16-2012, 03:26 PM
I don't disagree. I'm speaking strictly in terms of speaking ability.

Jalen doesn't belong on tv in regards to analysis OR eloquent speaking, though.



I'm aware. I'm just busting your balls.

For the moment this season the Spaniometer of performance goes this way

1 Jose Calderon ; very good and much better than expected.

2 Rubi0 : very good, better than expected

3 Marc Gasol : Meh

4 Rudy : meh , but was playing a bit better lattely.

5 Pau Gasol : Mediocre, completely under par .

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:27 PM
u can tell dwight doesnt care about the magics and just wants to leave

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:27 PM
Marc gasol is so skilled

nycericanguy
01-16-2012, 03:28 PM
u can tell dwight doesnt care about the magics and just wants to leave

did you think that when he dropped 45 & 20 on GS the other night?

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:28 PM
Memphis getting payback.

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:29 PM
those Blake griffin commercials suck

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:30 PM
We're done. This half will be even worse. Without Rose we are simply incapable of playing fastbreak offense and yet are forced to considering how much we're down by. Basically it means more of the same of last half: shitload of TOs and easy fastbreak points for Grizzlies.

If it reaches 30, I hope Thibs starts pulling the starters, especially Deng.

shep33
01-16-2012, 03:30 PM
We need him to at least look decent if we going to get any type of value in return. But i want to see what he can do when we have a decent pg first

Very true, they still have time to see how Baron helps him out.

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:30 PM
did you think that when he dropped 45 & 20 on GS the other night?

ya i did almost all thos points game from the ft line Magic should just trade him and get rid of this drama

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:30 PM
The knicks are better without amare

I wouldn't go there. Relying on Melo only is insanely dangerous considering he's playing with a sore ankle, sprained wrist and lower back soreness.

You cannot replace a 20 point & 9 rebound Power Forward. He's just going through the samething Pau did last year.

papipapsmanny
01-16-2012, 03:30 PM
hell yea wiz actually looking funtionable

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:32 PM
u can tell dwight doesnt care about the magics and just wants to leave

I really disagree.

He's clearly emotionally invested into these games, he's just having a slow offensive game. If he didn't care he wouldn't be getting technicals and arguing so passionately. All year he's been playing incredibly hard on both ends. If he didn't care his rebounds would be down, his shot blocks would be down etc...but they aren't.

And I'm really the furthest thing from a Dwight-dickrider that any Magic fan can be.


Also, credit Chandler, who has been harassing Dwight all day long.

whitvalid
01-16-2012, 03:32 PM
dear god the difference in chicago with vs without rose... mvp is right.

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:32 PM
Lets go Memphis!!!!!!!!!!!!

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:33 PM
dear god the difference in chicago with vs without rose... mvp is right.

The biggest difference isn't even the scoring, but the inability of initiating the offense. Lucas is completely incapable of setting an offense.

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:34 PM
Amare quit on us

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:35 PM
Amare is the one who doesn't seem like his head is in it.

Really dumb foul. Dwight basically had it in the hoop when Amare fouled him. He seems so out of whack.

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:35 PM
Amare quit on us

lol y wat did he do

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:36 PM
Amare is the one who doesn't seem like his head is in it.

Really dumb foul. Dwight basically had it in the hoop when Amare fouled him. He seems so out of whack.

Goes back to me saying that I really think Baron will make a difference. No, he isn't the same explosive scorer, but he's a very capable passer and is the only player on that team capable of running the pick and roll.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:36 PM
and now the threes are starting to fall

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:37 PM
Carmelo lob city Anthony...

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:38 PM
I wouldn't go there. Relying on Melo only is insanely dangerous considering he's playing with a sore ankle, sprained wrist and lower back soreness.

You cannot replace a 20 point & 9 rebound Power Forward. He's just going through the samething Pau did last year.

I seriously thought before this season that AMare is better than Melo but so far melo has put up amazing numbers.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:38 PM
The threes are definitely falling...but they've been WIDE open looks. Good ball movement.

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 03:38 PM
Ryan Anderson can't miss.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:38 PM
wow shumpert

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:39 PM
anderson again

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-16-2012, 03:39 PM
Magic @ Knicks
Bulls @ Grizzlies
Bucks @ 76ers
Rockets @ Wizards
Cavaliers @ Bobcats
Trailblazers @ Hornets
Nets @ Clippers
Raptors @ Hawks
Thunder @ Celtics
Kings @ Timberwolves
Mavericks @ Lakers

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:40 PM
Anderson is just a beast. Best PF on the court today ;)

But seriously...he's been playing amazing this year.

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 03:40 PM
PFs always light up the Knicks.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:40 PM
I bet melo goes for 40 tonight, first player besides kobe to do that

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 03:40 PM
Magic @ Knicks
Bulls @ Grizzlies
Bucks @ 76ers
Rockets @ Wizards
Cavaliers @ Bobcats
Trailblazers @ Hornets
Nets @ Clippers
Raptors @ Hawks
Thunder @ Celtics
Kings @ Timberwolves
Mavericks @ Lakers

-__- You do that before the games start

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:40 PM
PFs always light up the Knicks.

like diaw

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:41 PM
I bet melo goes for 40 tonight, first player besides kobe to do that

To do what? Score 40?

That's not true...

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:41 PM
5 threes already in the 3rd

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 03:41 PM
:laugh: they can't miss from 3.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:41 PM
to do what? Score 40?

That's not true...

???who???

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 03:41 PM
like diaw

no surprise though.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:42 PM
???who???

Dwight has...

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:42 PM
stop with the threes melo

5ass
01-16-2012, 03:42 PM
take hedo out, put clark back in

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:43 PM
Dwight has...

lol how did I forget that:laugh2:

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:43 PM
Poor officaiting both ways. Very inconsistent. Let Howard and Chandler bang hard early on, then suddenly get tight. Calling a lot of touch fouls on the Magic now...

Really ****ing with the game tempo for both teams.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:43 PM
3rd on howard:ohno:

Tmath
01-16-2012, 03:44 PM
Bull **** call on Dwight.

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:45 PM
Orlando have some serious sharp shooters on their team

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:45 PM
Chicago really needs to add more bigs. This idea that Noah and Asik are good enough is really not good thinking. They need to replace Kurt Thomas.

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:45 PM
wow wat a call on dwight

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:46 PM
damn bulls down 20 never thought that would happen

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:46 PM
Bull **** call on Dwight.

They've done an awful job officiating him and Chandler's play. Truly awful. I get that he's hard to officiate fairly because he's so big and hard fouls sometimes don't even appear as fouls, especially since he doesn't flop or embellish ever...but they've called it loose, then tight, then loose and now tight again. They just gotta be consistent. If you're gonna let the bang and battle early on, you can't suddenly change it like they have.

5ass
01-16-2012, 03:46 PM
refs have ruined the game, i was excited for this chandler vs Howard match up

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:46 PM
I seriously thought before this season that AMare is better than Melo but so far melo has put up amazing numbers.

I'm not trying to be a homer but if our role players shot better this season, Melo would average 6 rebounds, 7 assists.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:46 PM
Chicago really needs to add more bigs. This idea that Noah and Asik are good enough is really not good thinking. They need to replace Kurt Thomas.

You must be joking...

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:46 PM
take hedo out, put clark back in

:confused:

Clark did nothing, and Hedo has been great this year and isn't having an awful game.

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:50 PM
why isnt Amare on

Tmath
01-16-2012, 03:50 PM
The Knicks are great actors.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:50 PM
I'm going to go into full-fledged whining mode soon :laugh: This is bad.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:51 PM
As always magic live and die by the three ball

MTL_123
01-16-2012, 03:51 PM
The Knicks are great actors.

lol

5ass
01-16-2012, 03:51 PM
:confused:

Clark did nothing, and Hedo has been great this year and isn't having an awful game.

hes still horrible defensively.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:52 PM
hes still horrible defensively.

Not really though. Defensively he's actually been very solid this year.

Clark is just awful...case in point that turnover there that just woke the crowd up for the first time.

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:52 PM
Wow Anderson is a sniper.

nycericanguy
01-16-2012, 03:52 PM
damn I want Ryan ANderson on the knicks! he'd be perfect for us!

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:53 PM
Anderson and Harrellson trading 3 balls lol

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 03:53 PM
Ryan anderson is going to get paid

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:53 PM
Don't look now, but Bulls are storming back. Down only 11. CJ is a boss. I love him. It's too bad Thibs usually utilizes him so poorly. He needs to be used like Rose. Give him free reign to score first and not be a distributor and he can be VERY good.

There's a reason he has had two terrific games when he had to play a full game when Rose is out. In fact, I'd say Rose could learn a thing or two from him in regards to getting to the line more often.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Shumpert's defense is for real...

Punk
01-16-2012, 03:55 PM
why isnt Amare on

He's in foul trouble.

5ass
01-16-2012, 03:56 PM
Not really though. Defensively he's actually been very solid this year.

Clark is just awful...case in point that turnover there that just woke the crowd up for the first time.

Hedo has done an awful job on Melo so far, Clark defends Melo better. Melo is the only one keeping the knicks in the game.
And that turnover by clark isnt a big deal, shumpert has stolen the ball from jameer atleast twice this game

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:56 PM
Every time I look at my TV it seems like Deng is taking an awful shot.

shep33
01-16-2012, 03:56 PM
Anderson is gonna get a huge contract from somebody.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:56 PM
atta boy dwight

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:57 PM
Got away with a travel by Taj.

Tmath
01-16-2012, 03:57 PM
Silly fouls.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 03:57 PM
Anderson is gonna get a huge contract from magic.

fixed;)

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:57 PM
Hedo has done an awful job on Melo so far, Clark defends Melo better. Melo is the only one keeping the knicks in the game.
And that turnover by clark isnt a big deal, shumpert has stolen the ball from jameer atleast twice this game

I don't know. melo will get his. He's really basically done most of his damage at the FT line when we've bailed him out. He's only 7-20...and at least 3 of those baskets came against Q.

chicago lulz
01-16-2012, 03:57 PM
Don't look now, but Bulls are storming back. Down only 11. CJ is a boss. I love him. It's too bad Thibs usually utilizes him so poorly. He needs to be used like Rose. Give him free reign to score first and not be a distributor and he can be VERY good.

There's a reason he has had two terrific games when he had to play a full game when Rose is out. In fact, I'd say Rose could learn a thing or two from him in regards to getting to the line more often.

This, so much this

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 03:58 PM
Can Big Baby just leave

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:58 PM
Haha. Now the refs call a lane violation against the Knicks :laugh: Such a weirdly officiated game.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:59 PM
Can Big Baby just leave

We hung in this game in the first half because our bench played well...and he was a big reason why. He actually was prety good in this game.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 03:59 PM
This, so much this

Honestly it kills me how much more killer our 2nd unit can be if CJ was allowed free reign.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 03:59 PM
I really wish JJ would start over Richardson, or at least get closer to 30 minutes a game...he's so good. Does everything so fundamentally perfect.

John Walls Era
01-16-2012, 04:00 PM
We hung in this game in the first half because our bench played well...and he was a big reason why. He actually was prety good in this game.

Too sporadic as Walt keeps saying.

shep33
01-16-2012, 04:00 PM
fixed;)

haha. Man he's a tricky player to give a deal to. These contract years are not good indicators of how much a player should deserve. Whoever signs him will get a solid player no doubt, but I have no clue if he can keep this up.

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:01 PM
I love the effort but never dive into the crowd when you have 3 different injuries lol

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 04:01 PM
Even if we lose, I really hope Thibs takes note of CJ's performance: 17 points on 8 shots. That's unreal.

We need CJ to be used like this CONSISTENTLY.

shep33
01-16-2012, 04:01 PM
I really wish JJ would start over Richardson, or at least get closer to 30 minutes a game...he's so good. Does everything so fundamentally perfect.

I agree, I was really surprised that they re-signed Richardson. I was hoping Redick would get the nod at the 2 spot.

5ass
01-16-2012, 04:01 PM
I really wish JJ would start over Richardson, or at least get closer to 30 minutes a game...he's so good. Does everything so fundamentally perfect.

i agree, such a smart player.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:03 PM
Too sporadic as Walt keeps saying.

For sure. He's been bad more often than not, but we need him. He can be a spark...and we don't have any other sparks that can play the 4 or 5 besides him on the bench.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:04 PM
And there's the sporadic Big Baby :laugh2:

Needs to slow down occasionally...or pass.

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:05 PM
Terrible officiating.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 04:05 PM
Ugh... we just can't seem to get the 50-50 balls which killed us today.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:06 PM
Terrible officiating.

:laugh:

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 04:06 PM
That's probably game. Oh well. At least we didn't give in.

whitvalid
01-16-2012, 04:06 PM
i love the memphis stadium guy

justinnum1
01-16-2012, 04:07 PM
conley is beasting out there

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:07 PM
The Magic have been to the line 10 times. Dwight 7 (made 2) and Baby three times. Pathetic.

We've gotten into the penalty in the first half of all three quarters so far it seems like...and about to do it again. 3 fouls in like 5 seconds. And Dwight picks up a weird 4th foul.

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:07 PM
Howard is trying to get himself ejected or something?

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 04:08 PM
Time to give our guys some rest, Thibs. Especially Deng.

bigsams50
01-16-2012, 04:08 PM
The day i finally get to watch a Bobcats game at a reasonable time, and i cant get a good link of the game :(

Tmath
01-16-2012, 04:09 PM
Go Magic.

shep33
01-16-2012, 04:09 PM
Memphis is so good at creating turnovers

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:10 PM
Anderson is keeping us in this. He's unreal. So sexy...

4 point play as Bill Walker tackles Big Baby while Anderson sinks the three.

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:10 PM
Lol Wow, bad calls all over

black1605
01-16-2012, 04:10 PM
Great first half for Augustin.

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:11 PM
Anderson has 27 points on 14 shots.
Carmelo has 27 points on 21 shots.
Amare has 6 points on 6 shots...

whitvalid
01-16-2012, 04:11 PM
:'( i wanta watch the orlando game

Tmath
01-16-2012, 04:11 PM
Lol Wow, bad calls all over

I agree, Magic are getting screwed.

bigsams50
01-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Great first half for Augustin.

He is beasting out there, a couple of bad lobs near the end of the half, but still solid

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Ryan anderson i approve

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Lol Wow, bad calls all over

Are you trolling?

It's like the bow who cried wolf. No one will ever take you seriously because you complain every single game, even a game like this where there should be nothing that a Knick fan should be upset with in terms of officiating.

Bill tackled Baby there. It was clear. He had both arms all around him :laugh:

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:12 PM
LOL Wow, the Knicks production staffs is disrespecting the Clippers.

bballswishanet
01-16-2012, 04:12 PM
Lol @ Jalen's comments during halftime about Kobe's legendary awesomeness making Kobe Haters feel stupidly awkward.

:D:D:D

5ass
01-16-2012, 04:13 PM
anderson is playing like he is the best PF in that game...
Although Davis is playing well too :p
no but seriously ryan anderson is the MVP of the game today

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:14 PM
27 points on 14 shots...and only 1 FT attempt. Doubt that like ever happens. Almost exactly 2 points per shot, and just 1 FT.

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:14 PM
Are you trolling?

It's like the bow who cried wolf. No one will ever take you seriously because you complain every single game, even a game like this where there should be nothing that a Knick fan should be upset with in terms of officiating.

Bill tackled Baby there. It was clear. He had both arms all around him :laugh:

Go watch it again. BOTH were tackling each other. That is a no call or a double foul.

Ball calls all over = BOTH teams getting bad calls. Don't jump to conclusions wise one.

kozelkid
01-16-2012, 04:14 PM
Finally!!

At least Jimmy will play. :clap:

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 04:15 PM
very poor shot

Lakeshow24KB
01-16-2012, 04:15 PM
Yeahhhh scalabrine is in.

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:16 PM
Amare getting his swagger back.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 04:16 PM
baby owned

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:17 PM
Anderson and Hedo mugged on two consecutive plays on offense...

Luckily, Anderson took a charge there to get it back.

Tmath
01-16-2012, 04:17 PM
Chandler is the biggest flopper in the league.

5ass
01-16-2012, 04:18 PM
Anderson playing great defense too BTW

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 04:18 PM
rigged

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:18 PM
Dwight :sigh:

Losing his cool...again. I don't blame him, very frustrating game. Chandler did grab him, and sold it well, but no reason to shove him like that.

5ass
01-16-2012, 04:19 PM
lol that was such a flop by chandler though

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 04:19 PM
field nothing but air lol

papipapsmanny
01-16-2012, 04:19 PM
wall has been doing good his last two game

looks pissed off today

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 04:20 PM
bad play there

Slimsim
01-16-2012, 04:21 PM
Not sure why Novak can't get burn

ManRam
01-16-2012, 04:23 PM
The bank is open from Mr. 4th Quarter HEDO!

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-16-2012, 04:23 PM
turkeyglue!!!

Punk
01-16-2012, 04:23 PM
Magic are lights out shooting it.