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Longhornfan1234
01-12-2012, 09:50 PM
1. Pop
2. Rick Adelman
3. Doc Rivers
4. Rick Carlisle
5. Tom Thibodeau
6. George Karl
7. Nate McMillan
8. Lionel Hollins
9. Stan Van Gundy
10. Erik Spoelstra


What is yours? I think my list is pretty accurate.

Slug3
01-12-2012, 09:52 PM
Spo in the top 10? oh geez.

CousinsEvansDUO
01-12-2012, 09:53 PM
1. Pop
2. Tom Thibodeau
3. Rick Carlisle
4. Rick Adelman
5. Doc Rivers
6. George Karl
7. Stan Van Gundy
8. Erik Spoelstra
9. Nate McMillan
10. Keith Smart

Wade>You
01-12-2012, 09:54 PM
Spo in the top 10? oh geez.One of the few sane Heat fans. I mean, Mark Jackson and Vinny Del Negro are killing him, and a lot of people don't consider them good, at least Del Negro cuz Mark is still new.

There's a lot I like about Spo, but it's the little things and the same mistakes he's making that continue to keep this team from fulfilling its potential. Too many blown leads, not just this year or last year --- blown leads and losses to Game Winners and OTs are what have defined his career.

kozelkid
01-12-2012, 09:54 PM
Spo and Hollins do not belong in ANY top 10.

Cal827
01-12-2012, 09:56 PM
Dwayne Casey at 1. lol I'm kidding but but look at how bad defensively that team was last year compared to this year so far.

1. Popovich
2. Doc Rivers
3. Adelman
4. Karl
5. Rick Carlisle
6.Thibs
7. Collins
8. Mcmillian
9. Hollins
10. Van Gundy

GrapeSoda
01-12-2012, 09:56 PM
1. Pop
2. Tom Thibodeau
3. Rick Carlisle
4. Rick Adelman
5. Doc Rivers
6. George Karl
7. Stan Van Gundy
8. Erik Spoelstra
9. Nate McMillan
10. Keith Smart

suprised you didn't put him #1

b@llhog24
01-12-2012, 09:57 PM
1) Pop
2) Rivers
3) Thibs
4) Karl
5) Van Gundy
6) McMillian
7) Adelman
8) Carlisle
9) Gentry
10) Scott

Wade>You
01-12-2012, 09:57 PM
Here's a list of the Heat's blown leads and GWers they've given up during Spo's tenure (mixed results, but not difficult to distinguish):

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=heat+game+winner+against+vs&oq=heat+game+winner+against+vs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=0l0l0l7256l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0

XpLiCiTT
01-12-2012, 09:58 PM
Spo?? hahahahahahah

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-12-2012, 10:00 PM
Mike Brown great defensive coach, has the Lakers and Kobe buying into his system after 11/12 years with the TexWinter/PJax Triangle Offense.

GrapeSoda
01-12-2012, 10:01 PM
^^ Mike Brown blows, STOP - Spo should NOT be in the top 10 .. thats insane

Cal827
01-12-2012, 10:02 PM
Side note, how is Collins not on the lists? I mean what he's done with the sixers after that terrible start is amazing.

GhostfaceDrilla
01-12-2012, 10:06 PM
Poppovich and Carlisle are the two best coaches in the league. There are about 20 assistant coaches who are better than Spoelstra...

GoPacers33
01-12-2012, 10:07 PM
Spo makes the same mistakes as any other coach it's just that he coaches the Heat

GrapeSoda
01-12-2012, 10:07 PM
Poppovich and Carlisle are the two best coaches in the league. There are about 20 assistant coaches who are better than Spoelstra...

I would say 30 :D

Hawkeye15
01-12-2012, 10:12 PM
omg, are Laker fans really going to bring up Mike Brown? He is completely inept offensively. He literally has no idea how to run an offense.

LakersA's49ers
01-12-2012, 10:15 PM
popovich
thibedeau
doc rivers
scott brooks
NATE MCMILLAN
rick carlisle
adelmen
stan van gundy
george karl
ANDDDDDDD everyone else. theres a nice top 9. lol

theheatles
01-12-2012, 10:16 PM
spo is in the 12-15 range, no lower, and soon to be rising

but the heats coaching staff as a whole is top 7

KnicksR4Real
01-12-2012, 10:16 PM
Carlisle is a great coach. Top 3

GrapeSoda
01-12-2012, 10:17 PM
omg, are Laker fans really going to bring up Mike Brown? He is completely inept offensively. He literally has no idea how to run an offense.

This .. his offense = Dantoni's defense ..

Wade>You
01-12-2012, 10:18 PM
Poppovich and Carlisle are the two best coaches in the league. There are about 20 assistant coaches who are better than Spoelstra...lol for once I agree, if you go to the Heat forum they'll start baiting and trolling on you for thinking that Spo is not a good coach.

Mishmin
01-12-2012, 10:27 PM
Dwayne Casey at 1. lol I'm kidding but but look at how bad defensively that team was last year compared to this year so far.

1. Popovich
2. Doc Rivers
3. Adelman
4. Karl
5. Rick Carlisle
6.Thibs
7. Collins
8. Mcmillian
9. Hollins
10. Van Gundy

This looks pretty dead on to me

Hawkeye15
01-12-2012, 10:31 PM
This .. his offense = Dantoni's defense ..

not even close. Brown has zip idea how to formulate an offense with options.

Hustlenomics
01-12-2012, 10:31 PM
no way is Doc Rivers a top 5 coach

Hawkeye15
01-12-2012, 10:32 PM
for those criticizing Spo, I have no problem with it, but remember part of coaching a team full of primmadonnas is the ability to manage egos and get everyone on the same page. Spo is obviously able to do this. Phil was the best ever at it.

Hawkeye15
01-12-2012, 10:32 PM
no way is doc rivers a top 5 coach

+1

GrapeSoda
01-12-2012, 10:34 PM
not even close. Brown has zip idea how to formulate an offense with options.

I think you misunderstood me I was agreeing with you, Brown has zip idea how to formulate an offensive just like Dantoni has zip idea how to formulate a defense

Wade>You
01-12-2012, 10:34 PM
for those criticizing Spo, I have no problem with it, but remember part of coaching a team full of primmadonnas is the ability to manage egos and get everyone on the same page. Spo is obviously able to do this. Phil was the best ever at it.It's not that tough, as long as they win and dominate you'll never have a problem. By your comments, it would seem like coaching Team USA is difficult, when in reality the "primmadonnas" do the majority of the work and are able to get along and share the rock --- and dominate and not lose.

Lakers + Giants
01-12-2012, 10:43 PM
IMO

1. Popovich
2. Adelman
3. McMillan
4. Carlisle
5. Thibs
6. Rivers
7. Karl
8. Brooks
9. Collins
10. Ron Jeremy

Lakers + Giants
01-12-2012, 10:45 PM
Am i the only one that thinks scott brooks is a good coach :confused:

theheatles
01-12-2012, 10:51 PM
here's your winner...

1. pop
2. thibs
3. karl
4. adelman
5. collins
6. carlisle
7. rivers
8. mcmillan
9. van gundy
10. brooks

mikeman0000
01-12-2012, 10:52 PM
Scott Brooks, Frank Vogel and Doug Collins are three underrated coaches apparently.

NYYCowboys
01-12-2012, 10:58 PM
Everyone else




















30. Mike D'Antoni

Geargo Wallace
01-12-2012, 11:01 PM
I think I'd put Karl over Carlisle.

soundjunkies2
01-12-2012, 11:11 PM
McMillan is easily the most underrated coach in the NBA. Top 5 IMO.

DR_1
01-12-2012, 11:33 PM
1. Thibs
2. Pop
3. Collins
4. Carlisle
5. Doc
6. Karl
7. Adelman
8. Vogel
9. McMillan
10. Casey

LA_Raiders
01-12-2012, 11:44 PM
Spo and Hollins do not belong in ANY top 10.

Agree

Wade>You
01-12-2012, 11:50 PM
30. Mike D'AntoniSpo is trying to revive small ball. Your move.

Kinglorious
01-13-2012, 12:03 AM
1. Pop
2. Tom Thibodeau
3. Rick Carlisle
4. Rick Adelman
5. Doc Rivers
6. George Karl
7. Stan Van Gundy
8. Erik Spoelstra
9. Nate McMillan
10. Keith Smart

Are
you
kidding
me,
bro?

It's only been 4 games. Doug Collins, Frank Vogel or Scott Brooks should be on that list or yours.

PacersForLife
01-13-2012, 01:21 AM
Dough Collins, Frank Vogel, and Scott Brooks are gonna receive no love because they are small market teams.... stupid. Look how much they have helped their respective teams.

KingOf215
01-13-2012, 01:27 AM
Doug Collins was robbed out of the COTY award last year, he should be in the top 10 for sure.

KingOf215
01-13-2012, 01:32 AM
Dough Collins, Frank Vogel, and Scott Brooks are gonna receive no love because they are small market teams.... stupid. Look how much they have helped their respective teams.



Philadelphia is the 5th largest city in the United States... it's not a "small market." :rolleyes:

Kinglorious
01-13-2012, 01:36 AM
It doesn't matter what the population is. Toronto is the 5th largest city in NA, but we're still considered a small market. Then again, we're in Canada. It shouldn't matter, but it does.

PacersForLife
01-13-2012, 01:38 AM
Philadelphia is the 5th largest city in the United States... it's not a "small market." :rolleyes:

I'm talking about as far as media coverage, games on national TV and that type of stuff...

NYKalltheway
01-13-2012, 08:20 AM
Where's D'Antoni? I don't see him in any of your lists.

PhillyFaninLA
01-13-2012, 09:16 AM
Side note, how is Collins not on the lists? I mean what he's done with the sixers after that terrible start is amazing.


I agree Collins needs to be on the list. He has turned every team he coached around. They have all been better when he left then when he got there.

I won't make a top 10 coach list for the NBA or NHL because despite how well I know the players I don't know most of the coaches (the little things about them) to do it accurately and not just pick coaches of good teams but I know Doug Collins is somewhere in the top 10.

PhillyFaninLA
01-13-2012, 09:19 AM
for those criticizing Spo, I have no problem with it, but remember part of coaching a team full of primmadonnas is the ability to manage egos and get everyone on the same page. Spo is obviously able to do this. Phil was the best ever at it.


When you have Pat Rileys support I think that says a lot.

Hawkeye15
01-13-2012, 10:10 AM
It's not that tough, as long as they win and dominate you'll never have a problem. By your comments, it would seem like coaching Team USA is difficult, when in reality the "primmadonnas" do the majority of the work and are able to get along and share the rock --- and dominate and not lose.

Coaching a 7 month regular season with ups and downs with ego driven players is much different than coaching a team of all stars with a common goal for a month in the Olympics.

You saw it last year, early. Spo had to hold together a team full of drama and hold off media attacks. Its not easy to do that. Phil was the master.

Hawkeye15
01-13-2012, 10:10 AM
When you have Pat Rileys support I think that says a lot.

no doubt man.

onlythisfar41
01-13-2012, 10:20 AM
Mike Dantoni.........................kidding

effen5
01-13-2012, 10:50 AM
Doug Collins was robbed out of the COTY award last year, he should be in the top 10 for sure.

Well he wasn't robbed....Thibs should have won coach of the year.

I have a lot of love for DC though.

BullsFTW
01-13-2012, 01:08 PM
1. Pops
2. Thibs
3. Doc
4. Doug Collins
5. Carlisle

The rest I can careless. I think people on this forum underestimate Spo. He's a good coach. The problem is that his superstars disappear during 4th quarters.

Wade>You
01-13-2012, 02:24 PM
I think people discussing coaches generally lack knowledge of what a good coach is, and instead focus on wins and losses. These same people attribute all responsibility to the players and none to the coach, thus implying that a coach gets paid millions to do nothing and thus are not responsible for when their team loses.

I mean, it's these same people that would have you believe that Flip Saunders was a good coach when the Pistons came out firing and finished with the best record in the league.

RLundi
01-13-2012, 03:08 PM
Stan Van Gundy is a good coach who doesn't get recognition because he's annoying.

Wade>You
01-13-2012, 03:20 PM
Coaching a 7 month regular season with ups and downs with ego driven players is much different than coaching a team of all stars with a common goal for a month in the Olympics.

You saw it last year, early. Spo had to hold together a team full of drama and hold off media attacks. Its not easy to do that. Phil was the master.Disagreement lies here: you believe LBJ, Wade,Bosh are on MJ or Shaq/Kobe level when it comes to egos and that it's easier to manage 15 huge egos over LBJ/Bosh/Wade.

I believe that Wade/LBJ/Bosh will to do anything it takes to win and have proven that by coming together to play when everyone felt their egos would clash and it wouldn't work. I also don't believe managing egos is an issue when it comes to guys who want to win and are capable of winning/dominating.

sixer04fan
01-13-2012, 03:23 PM
The fact that so many of you don't have Doug Collins in your top 10, based on what he's done with Philly the last two season is mind blowing. Wow...

leftymo
01-13-2012, 03:55 PM
Just my opinion... (forgive spelling and going off the top of my head)

1. Greg Popovich
2. Doc Rivers
3. Rick Carlisle
4. George Karl
5. Tom Thibedeau
6. Nate McMillan
7. Stan Van Gundy
8. Rick Adelman
9. Mike Brown
10. Eric Spoelstra

My thoughts on coach are a combination of current success along with getting most out of your talent, and of course championships or finals appearances. 8 of my top 10 have made the NBA Finals as head coaches.

leftymo
01-13-2012, 03:56 PM
The fact that so many of you don't have Doug Collins in your top 10, based on what he's done with Philly the last two season is mind blowing. Wow...


well, he's still best known for NOT winning a championship with Michael Jordan (young version)

RLundi
01-13-2012, 05:54 PM
Just my opinion... (forgive spelling and going off the top of my head)

1. Greg Popovich
2. Doc Rivers
3. Rick Carlisle
4. George Karl
5. Tom Thibedeau
6. Nate McMillan
7. Stan Van Gundy
8. Rick Adelman
9. Mike Brown
10. Eric Spoelstra

My thoughts on coach are a combination of current success along with getting most out of your talent, and of course championships or finals appearances. 8 of my top 10 have made the NBA Finals as head coaches.

Shouldn't a larger body of work and relative success put one higher than a fresh face? I like Thibs as much as the next guy, but how is he a better coach than SVG, Adelman etc? He's only coached at the head position for a single season. Yes, he's been an assistant with Boston for awhile, but I'm not sure if he has enough of a track record to put him as the fifth best coach in the league...

VinceCarter
01-13-2012, 06:45 PM
Where does Avery Johnson fall for you guys?

Lake_Show2416
01-13-2012, 07:18 PM
1. Popovich
2. McMillan
3. Adelman
4. Carlisle
5. Thibs
6. Mike Brown
7. Doug Collins
8. Karl
9. Doc
10. Stan Van

Wade>You
01-13-2012, 07:34 PM
Looking at a lot of people's lists, I can see that except for a HOFer like Pop, a lot of coaches listed over Spo are listed because they get their teams to overachieve, as where Spo underachieves with a very talented roster.

mp3
01-13-2012, 07:49 PM
Doug Collins should be on everyone's list.

Corey
01-13-2012, 07:53 PM
I have Thibs top 4.

I freaking love Thibs.

hans dolo
01-13-2012, 07:53 PM
to not have Doug Collins in your top ten takes away your credibility of being a true basketball fan, IMO. and yes Philly is a small market team when it comes to basketball but that shouldn't take away from ranking coaches to a full time nba fan. mike brown?? really??

kozelkid
01-14-2012, 05:10 PM
Am i the only one that thinks scott brooks is a good coach :confused:

Pretty much.

Did you not watch the Thunder/Dallas series last year? His offense involved just giving the ball to Durant and hoping something would work. As much talent as OKC has between Westbrook, Harden and Durant, he still can't manage to get them work in a cohesive manner.