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NYSpirit1
01-08-2012, 01:48 PM
Derrick Rose: 19.4 PPG on 42% shooting
Amare Stoudemire: 20.3 PPG on 45% shooting
Chris Paul: 15.2 PPG (I know he averaged that last year, but he could get 18-19 on Clips)
Dirk Nowitzki: 19.0 PPG on 43% shooting
Dwayne Wade: 18.8 PPG on 44% shooting
Russell Westbrook: 17.8 PPG on 41% shooting
Deron Williams: 17.3 PPG on 34% shooting and just 7.5 APG
Paul Pierce: 15.2 PPG on 38.5% shooting

It's kind of ridiculous - all these guys were All-Stars last year.

But at the same time, I see so much criticism early, especially of a guy like Amare, but then when I looked at the statistics, he's averaging the most out of all these perennial All-Stars. The NBA is just off to a poor start.

I would attribute the strong records of crappy teams like Cleveland to luck because of poor play from stars of teams that are supposed to be really good.

GoPacers33
01-08-2012, 01:53 PM
Lockout probably had an effect on it :rolleyes:

Iodine
01-08-2012, 02:12 PM
You mean in a lockout season where a ton of players are having to adjust not only their PT but also their playstyle to stay healthy there are some statistical shortcomings early. AND it's a small sample size?


Holy **** you blew my mind

Evolution23
01-08-2012, 02:21 PM
We are 7 games into the season. Lets start panic mode already.

KB-Pau-DH2012
01-08-2012, 02:22 PM
Basketball reasons ;)

effen5
01-08-2012, 02:24 PM
Im not sure why Rose is included on this....he's been having an amazing year this year except for last nights game...

But it might be because hes distributing more...oh wait but hes not a PG

:rolleyes:

shep33
01-08-2012, 02:28 PM
Reason: Andray Blatche

beasted86
01-08-2012, 02:32 PM
Wade injured his foot in the 3rd game of the season against the Bobcats.

Pierce had an injury to start the season as well and probably came back early to help stop the Celtics from going 0-4 to start the year.

Check Chris Paul's efficiency... not just blindly look at his PPG thinking he should average more. This guy is playing at an elite level and his team is off to a good start.

The rest are likely suffering from a mixture of the frantic schedule and lack of proper conditioning and will improve over time (Dirk, Westbrook)... while some of the others I don't think will improve much because of a redefined role (Rose) and/or teams have figured out how to defend them on their teams and need better play from teammates before they improve (Deron, Amare).

NYtilIdie
01-08-2012, 02:35 PM
Are you seriously this ***king stupid?

KnicksR4Real
01-08-2012, 02:47 PM
2012 is coming

beasted86
01-08-2012, 02:48 PM
BTW, Amare is averaging 23/11 over the last 3 games since coming back from his ankle injury.

If you took what people were saying to heart over his first 3 games, then I have mistaken your intelligence.

NSJ
01-08-2012, 03:08 PM
The first few games looked like preseason games, but what can you expect we didn't even expect an NBA season going in the December. It's also so early that one or two bad games can skew those number, like Pierce's atrocious night against the Pacers.

bovice163
01-08-2012, 04:36 PM
Injuries, acclimating themselves to new teammates/team, deferring to teammates, and just plain poor play can be used to explain the slow starts for all of those guys.

blastmasta26
01-08-2012, 06:38 PM
You mean in a lockout season where a ton of players are having to adjust not only their PT but also their playstyle to stay healthy there are some statistical shortcomings early. AND it's a small sample size?


Holy **** you blew my mind
:laugh2: This. Not to mention roster changes that some of these players have to adjust to as well.

Cfrey
01-08-2012, 06:44 PM
THE OP just goes to show how ****ing GOD the KING JAMES is..

now everyone bow down

Dolfan305
01-08-2012, 06:49 PM
It's only been 2 weeks. I do think Pierce is getting old and D williams just ain't that good, but I guarantee you that guys like D Wade, Rose, Dirk will be back to normal. Give it a few weeks.

Stuckey#3
01-08-2012, 07:02 PM
Two weeks of training camp and two preseason games? Plus not all teams/players practiced during the lockout.

It's kind of similar to everyday people... some people turn into pieces of **** when they are unemployed and get lazy and some stay active and on top of there skills.

WOW this is the first time I have ever had something positive to say about Brick James. But he and KD both played there ***** off this summer and the results are evident.

5ass
01-08-2012, 07:03 PM
Derrick Rose: 19.4 PPG on 42% shooting
Amare Stoudemire: 20.3 PPG on 45% shooting
Chris Paul: 15.2 PPG (I know he averaged that last year, but he could get 18-19 on Clips)
Dirk Nowitzki: 19.0 PPG on 43% shooting
Dwayne Wade: 18.8 PPG on 44% shooting
Russell Westbrook: 17.8 PPG on 41% shooting
Deron Williams: 17.3 PPG on 34% shooting and just 7.5 APG
Paul Pierce: 15.2 PPG on 38.5% shooting

It's kind of ridiculous - all these guys were All-Stars last year.

But at the same time, I see so much criticism early, especially of a guy like Amare, but then when I looked at the statistics, he's averaging the most out of all these perennial All-Stars. The NBA is just off to a poor start.

I would attribute the strong records of crappy teams like Cleveland to luck because of poor play from stars of teams that are supposed to be really good.

Chris paul is shooting 52% and 40% from 3, he might not be scoring much, but with griffin, billups, butler, and williams on his team he isnt asked to score. He is being very efficient.

Dwade and Pierce were recentley injured