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THE_G.O.A.T.
01-03-2012, 12:49 PM
Saw this note this morning about the Heat's struggles against teams playing zone.


Miami is going to see a lot of zone until they start blowing it up. Sebastain Pruitti of Grantland tweeted the numbers Miami has 37 points on 50 possessions against the zone this season and are shooting just 38.1 percent against it. They are destroying man defense but struggling against the zone, and word is getting around the league.

That is terrible numbers against the zone defense for an elite NBA team. So why is it? Do they not have the ability to make jumpers consistently? Will other teams go to an almost complete zone defense against the Heat? And will this new revelation ruin the Heat's chances this year?

Heatcheck
01-03-2012, 01:00 PM
more teams are going to definetly start doing it. With wade hurt, and miller out, we need to get James Jones in the game more when this happens because he's our only consistent outside shooter. WE shouldve signed McGrady 2 yrs ago when we had the chance.

Pierzynski4Prez
01-03-2012, 01:01 PM
Players are still too good for it to have that great of an effect.

justinnum1
01-03-2012, 01:02 PM
Hawks only used it 25% of the game...heat just got out played yesterday...they cant win them all.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
01-03-2012, 01:08 PM
they play better in transistion...look how well they finish when the court is open.

ChiSox219
01-03-2012, 01:14 PM
Wade
Miller
Battier
Lebron
Bosh

Zone won't stop that

Heatcheck
01-03-2012, 01:17 PM
but the fact remains they struggle when they see a zone. I dont know how much of the game they played zone, but they did it in the end when we lost the game. true, they played very efficiently and didnt turn the ball over, and that wont happen all the time. but you can't ignore the fact that we have a hard time with the zone.

BALLER R
01-03-2012, 01:18 PM
To beat the heat zone helps but you have to out work them. get those loose balls and rebound because once they get out in transition its like free throws for them. also limit your turnovers

BALLER R
01-03-2012, 01:23 PM
Yeah another thing when your play the zone is also crucial. If your playing man to man then in the final 2 mins you play zone it will catch them off guard

Dolfan305
01-03-2012, 01:26 PM
The Hawks just out played the Heat. Big deal they lost a game, just like every other team in the league. They still have the best record in the NBA. They aren't perfect and nether is the Bulls or Thunder etc.

Chronz
01-03-2012, 01:30 PM
#'s sound fluky, they have struggled to hit shots but they havent struggled finding good ones.

miller74
01-03-2012, 01:31 PM
They'll get over it, too good to stop

justinnum1
01-03-2012, 01:34 PM
haberstroh
Worth noting: The Heat currently scoring 74 pts every 100 trips vs. zone. Last season? 95.1 pts. In playoffs? 108.2 pts.

There you go...

mjm07
01-03-2012, 01:42 PM
Atlanta played very well. They didn't use Zone all that much but it did help them get back in the game. Also, Wade went 4-19 shooting. That rarely ever happens.

1-800-STFU
01-03-2012, 02:12 PM
Its over the heat are finished

king4day
01-03-2012, 02:49 PM
I thought this was the plan all along. It's not rocket science. Surprised they state 'word is getting around'. No **** :)

ClippersE.G
01-03-2012, 03:53 PM
If it is a decent team doing it then yes. If a sorry team tries to employ it then no. Watch the Heat play...it is really funny I dont think I have ever seen them (excluding Wade) made 2 or 3 jumpers in a row. If it is not a dunk or layup its like they cant score

Heatcheck
01-03-2012, 03:58 PM
you DEFINITELY dont watch many heat games

justinnum1
01-03-2012, 04:00 PM
If it is a decent team doing it then yes. If a sorry team tries to employ it then no. Watch the Heat play...it is really funny I dont think I have ever seen them (excluding Wade) made 2 or 3 jumpers in a row. If it is not a dunk or layup its like they cant score

:facepalm:

Iodine
01-03-2012, 04:08 PM
Most teams cant run an effective zone for half the game, let alone the whole 48

Dade County
01-03-2012, 04:19 PM
If it is a decent team doing it then yes. If a sorry team tries to employ it then no. Watch the Heat play...it is really funny I dont think I have ever seen them (excluding Wade) made 2 or 3 jumpers in a row. If it is not a dunk or layup its like they cant score

... what :crazy:

Sly Guy
01-03-2012, 04:41 PM
I noticed this against Boston.....it was REALLY effective at containing them on the penetration. Smart move, I guess we'll see how much LBJ has improved that midrange jumper very soon.

Bravo95
01-03-2012, 05:01 PM
The Hawks played well and also limited their transition points. I don't believe you can run a zone all game because a player like Bosh can be a zone-buster if they use him correctly, so I think you have to give them different looks. But like T-Mac said, you don't stand a chance just playing straight man-to-man against them.

LGhost
01-03-2012, 05:08 PM
Garnet looked like a traffic director when they were running the zone, he was really good with it.

SteBO
01-03-2012, 06:37 PM
The Hawks didn't even use the zone the entire game, and all it really is is a gimick defense. All this is, is another silly storyline writers want to create for themselves to emphasize that the Heat are actually mortal (no ****, no team is perfect). There's a reason not many teams use it for an entire half, let alone an entire game.

Cubby
01-03-2012, 07:37 PM
:facepalm:

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the NBA Forum.

RLundi
01-03-2012, 07:42 PM
If it's used in spurts, it can be effective. The Heat probably got caught off guard. They'll adjust.

*Silver&Black*
01-03-2012, 07:57 PM
+1 to all of the Heat and Hawks' fans answers. We didn't play zone the entire game, and it wouldn't work the entire game. Teams win and lose. That simple.

MTL_123
01-03-2012, 07:57 PM
If it is a decent team doing it then yes. If a sorry team tries to employ it then no. Watch the Heat play...it is really funny I dont think I have ever seen them (excluding Wade) made 2 or 3 jumpers in a row. If it is not a dunk or layup its like they cant score

lol from a cliper fan with your best player being so overated all he can do is dunk nothing else Lob city lol that team nickname says it all. all that they could do is dunk

ldawg
01-03-2012, 10:17 PM
I am not a coach but i called it when Lebron and Wade played together. They sign all these 3 point shooters to sit on the bench. Yes they can win but bigger sacrifices has to be made. As a fan i never understand why teams run out there behind Rhondo, Lebron, this hurt kobe, Wade etc.

NSJ
01-03-2012, 10:25 PM
At least the schedule this year is going to give teams a good chance to practice their zone before they play the Heat.

John Walls Era
01-03-2012, 10:27 PM
Zone is not hard to play against.

NSJ
01-03-2012, 10:27 PM
lol from a cliper fan with your best player being so overated all he can do is dunk nothing else Lob city lol that team nickname says it all. all that they could do is dunk


Chauncey and Caron Butler are pretty ****** shooters too. Oh yeah and Chris Paul.

Wade>You
01-03-2012, 10:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/11102/putting-the-brakes-on-miamis-run-and-gun
The average team scores 101.9 points every 100 possessions against the zone; the Heat have scored just 74.0 points.

:facepalm: