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Gators123
01-01-2012, 07:25 PM
ByTimReynolds Tim Reynolds

DeMarcus Cousins has demanded a trade from Sacramento. Paul Westphal just released a statement basically saying, "Fine, stay home."


Edit-

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/westphal_statement_2012_01_01.html


SACRAMENTO, CALIF., Jan. 1, 2012 -- “Whenever a new season begins, in any sport, there is great hope that everything will progress in only a steady, upward direction. As we all know, it seldom happens like that in this life!

As coaches, we can only ask that our players do everything they can to improve themselves as individuals and teammates. If they do this with all their hearts, we live with the results.

Everything that happens on a team does not become known to the public. This is how it should be. However, when a player continually, aggressively, lets it be known that he is unwilling/unable to embrace traveling in the same direction as his team, it cannot be ignored indefinitely.

DeMarcus Cousins has demanded to be traded. In the best interest of our team as we go forward, he has been directed by me, with the support of management, to stay home from the New Orleans game tonight.”

StriveGreatness
01-01-2012, 07:26 PM
LMAO. What a great person....

So glad the Pistons got Monroe instead of that cancer.

AI4MVP
01-01-2012, 07:26 PM
didnt he just come out saying be loyal to the team that drafts you, etc? Anyways, hes going to be one of the best big men in the nba for years to come.

ManRam
01-01-2012, 07:26 PM
Wow.

What a kid.

Gators123
01-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Hes such a little *****.

John Walls Era
01-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Wheres that Cousins-Evans user? :laugh:

Gators123
01-01-2012, 07:28 PM
Wheres that Cousins-Evans user? :laugh:

Changing his name to JimmerEvansDuo

Robbw241
01-01-2012, 07:28 PM
This is why we didn't draft him lol

sacgiants1213
01-01-2012, 07:28 PM
I cannot defend Cousins for this. It's a shame it's come to this. WESTPHAL HAS TO GO!

Sportfan
01-01-2012, 07:28 PM
The NBA, where 20 year old sophmores can demand trades

Come to Boston please

jkiddvc20
01-01-2012, 07:29 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8974

ManRam
01-01-2012, 07:30 PM
First call Sactown makes...Orlando?

Ebbs
01-01-2012, 07:33 PM
Cousins for Haywood base!

Maybe Salmons/Cousins for Josh Smith/Zaza deal?

Greet
01-01-2012, 07:34 PM
Cousins for Haywood base!

Maybe Salmons/Cousins for Josh Smith/Zaza deal?

I could see something like that. I don't know why the Hawks have under appreciated Josh Smith for years now

Hawkeye15
01-01-2012, 07:35 PM
I really hope you Kings fans aren't going to defend him here. The man is so immature its pathetic.

Like I said, the only thing that can stop Cousins from being a star is Cousins. And I grow increasingly confident that the chances of that happening are continuously rising.

Mr. Baller
01-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Joel Anthony is available :)

tredigs
01-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Good, now all the Kings fans can join me in my mocking of this ****ing imbecile.

Hawkeye15
01-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Hell, I would throw Beasley/Darko/Ridnour at them for Cousins and whatever crap they want to give back. But yeah, prolly not happening.

JNA17
01-01-2012, 07:37 PM
Cousins has more of a bipolar problem then Dwight. Didn't he just say a week or two again about loyalty to your team?

Ah well, it's a shame how much of a total doucebag he is, yet is very talented.

Yankee Clipper
01-01-2012, 07:37 PM
Is this guy serious? :laugh2:

Hustlenomics
01-01-2012, 07:38 PM
lmao i cant believe this

Punk
01-01-2012, 07:39 PM
:laugh:

They are 1-3 and he wants out? WTF?

Cal827
01-01-2012, 07:39 PM
Damn, this guy is going to be really good... but talk about Headcase.. What would Sacremento want for him?

JNA17
01-01-2012, 07:39 PM
Hell, I would throw Beasley/Darko/Ridnour at them for Cousins and whatever crap they want to give back. But yeah, prolly not happening.

Jeez, after what you just said about him, what makes you think Cousins won't just cry about living in Minnesota and having to deal with Love grabbing all the boards?

Although with that said, that would still be a decent deal for the T-Wolves XD.

John Walls Era
01-01-2012, 07:41 PM
Didn't this guy call out Lebron in the summer for not being loyal?

Hawkeye15
01-01-2012, 07:41 PM
Cousins has more of a bipolar problem then Dwight. Didn't he just say a week or two again about loyalty to your team?

Ah well, it's a shame how much of a total doucebag he is, yet is very talented.

haha, that's right, he did.

Kid is messed up. Sad too, he will most likely end up a waste of talent.

Hawkeye15
01-01-2012, 07:42 PM
Jeez, after what you just said about him, what makes you think Cousins won't just cry about living in Minnesota and having to deal with Love grabbing all the boards?

Although with that said, that would still be a decent deal for the T-Wolves XD.

well, Adelman is not Westphal. And really, I would be willing to take a chance if it costed Beasley, Darko, and Luke for example.

theheatles
01-01-2012, 07:42 PM
no way this can be true

Mr. Baller
01-01-2012, 07:42 PM
I really hope he can get his act together and grow up. He has too much skill to waste it like this

KnicksR4Real
01-01-2012, 07:43 PM
Los Angeles may want to give a call. Want him in NY but it's not gonna happen. He'd be great though. With that being said again I think he'd fit well in LA. Maybe you trade Gasol for a bunch of young assets. Or he could be involved going to Boston I could see that.

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 07:43 PM
I'm interested to see what Derek has to say about this...

29$JerZ
01-01-2012, 07:43 PM
Losing to the Knicks without Amare and getting Harrellsonned will make you do that

lakers4sho
01-01-2012, 07:44 PM
Walton + Odom's TPE for Cousins + filler to make salaries work

gilly
01-01-2012, 07:44 PM
Sixers will take him, Collins can get him in check (maybe... hopefully not another Kwame) depending on what we have to give up.

Sportfan
01-01-2012, 07:45 PM
Rondo for Tyreke and Cousins :drool:

Cano-Montero...
01-01-2012, 07:45 PM
WTH is up with him? pathetic..

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 07:45 PM
This wouldn't have happened if we had a real coach and some sort of offense...

netsgiantsyanks
01-01-2012, 07:45 PM
cousins for a 5 guys burger and a smoothie.

Gators123
01-01-2012, 07:46 PM
A 7'0 270+ Center who shoots 4-16 every night should not be demanding a trade.

rwynyc
01-01-2012, 07:46 PM
Who the **** would wants this bum? He is a child that has proven nothing, and was completely shut down but a nobody from the knicks a couple of nights ago.

You can just see form his facial expression he is such an *******. I hate this kid.

29$JerZ
01-01-2012, 07:47 PM
I'm not sure his value would be that high
If anything this pretty much makes his suitors limited since he clearly has attitude
Problems.

John Walls Era
01-01-2012, 07:47 PM
Blatche for Cousins.

Chacarron
01-01-2012, 07:48 PM
I wonder where he goes to.

sacgiants1213
01-01-2012, 07:48 PM
Kings beat writer:


I'm told Cousins did not demand a trade....more to come later

http://twitter.com/#!/mr_jasonjones/status/153623219532873728

VinceCarter
01-01-2012, 07:48 PM
Billy King is gonna work him into a multi team deal that brings Dwight to the Nets :D

Punk
01-01-2012, 07:48 PM
So, this now sets Sacramento's rebuilding plan back...I think he goes to Minnesota for Beasley and a few other pieces.

Rubio
Ellington
Williams
Love
Cousins

Not bad.

JNA17
01-01-2012, 07:49 PM
Walton + Odom's TPE for Cousins + filler to make salaries work

Damn you, my pants!

29$JerZ
01-01-2012, 07:50 PM
No trade huh?

ManRam
01-01-2012, 07:51 PM
Sacto seems to be imploding. Cousins in a baby, but it isn't just him who's not happy. Westphal probably has to go...

Hawkeye15
01-01-2012, 07:52 PM
Westphal absolutely has to go. He has lost his players.

utl768
01-01-2012, 07:52 PM
i didnt even know he was mad

Ty Fast
01-01-2012, 07:53 PM
Hes such a little *****.

thats a lie................. the little part i mean.

D1JM
01-01-2012, 07:54 PM
what happened to stay loyal lol

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 07:55 PM
Sacto seems to be imploding. Cousins in a baby, but it isn't just him who's not happy. Westphal probably has to go...

It's a shame too. It seemed like they just got past that phase where they had a lot of young talent but were too inexperienced to do any real damage. Everything was falling into place.


And I don't get why all of the Kings players hate Westphal, it seems like he's doing a great job rebuilding the franchise. :shrug:

sacgiants1213
01-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Westphal absolutely has to go. He has lost his players.

It's been obvious for 2 years.

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 07:56 PM
This is not true by any means. Where is your source? That's right it is nowhere to be found. End thread please before any trolls decide to humiliate themselves.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 07:57 PM
Los Angeles may want to give a call. Want him in NY but it's not gonna happen. He'd be great though. With that being said again I think he'd fit well in LA. Maybe you trade Gasol for a bunch of young assets. Or he could be involved going to Boston I could see that.

idk if you've heard, but we have amar'e and tyson chandler.. why would we need a *****y demarcus cousins? he would never leave a losing team where he starts to be a back up to a superstar on a (hopefully) winning team.


Losing to the Knicks without Amare and getting Harrellsonned will make you do that

:nod:



i'm surprised that troll cousinsevansduo or whatever his name is isn't on right now. i was sure that when i first saw this on twitter, he would've had a few things to say about this :laugh:

Green_Monster
01-01-2012, 07:57 PM
This is not true by any means. Where is your source? That's right it is nowhere to be found. End thread please before any trolls decide to humiliate themselves.

Mad bro?

AI4MVP
01-01-2012, 07:57 PM
COUSINS TO MINNESOTA!!! MAKE IT HAPPEN! Thatd be so awesome.

NFLNBA
01-01-2012, 07:58 PM
Lakers wont go for that headcase also he is a center and he will not work well with Bynum or Dwight. If he could play PF okay but not gonna happen. Bynum and Howard both better then Cousins easily

Wade>You
01-01-2012, 07:59 PM
Heat offer Joel Anthony. ;)

Hawkeye15
01-01-2012, 07:59 PM
This is not true by any means. Where is your source? That's right it is nowhere to be found. End thread please before any trolls decide to humiliate themselves.

Would he still have the potential to be better than Dwight in your mind if he is traded?

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:00 PM
This is not true by any means. Where is your source? That's right it is nowhere to be found. End thread please before any trolls decide to humiliate themselves.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

JWO35
01-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Kobe for Cousins...it's the only way.

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Did this even actually happen??


It's a shame too. It seemed like they just got past that phase where they had a lot of young talent but were too inexperienced to do any real damage. Everything was falling into place.


And I don't get why all of the Kings players hate Westphal, it seems like he's doing a great job rebuilding the franchise. :shrug:

He's the coach, not the GM. Petrie is rebuilding the franchise, Westphal is doing nothing with it. As to why everybody hates him, he did not implement any kind of an offense. The players have no idea what they're supposed to be doing out there, so they just go iso most of the time. Westphal has no business being the coach of young players and needs to go asap.

Gators123
01-01-2012, 08:00 PM
I lol'd seeing this on the main page.


DeMarcus Cousins demands trade from Kings (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4)
Gators123

DeMarcus Cousins: stay with your team and be loyal (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
PleaseBeNice

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Cousins is a king forever..he won't be traded, it says he will sit out the game but will not be traded, everyone chill out. Paul Westphal is going to be released not cousins.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:01 PM
SACRAMENTO, CALIF., Jan. 1, 2012 -- “Whenever a new season begins, in any sport, there is great hope that everything will progress in only a steady, upward direction. As we all know, it seldom happens like that in this life!

As coaches, we can only ask that our players do everything they can to improve themselves as individuals and teammates. If they do this with all their hearts, we live with the results.

Everything that happens on a team does not become known to the public. This is how it should be. However, when a player continually, aggressively, lets it be known that he is unwilling/unable to embrace traveling in the same direction as his team, it cannot be ignored indefinitely.

DeMarcus Cousins has demanded to be traded. In the best interest of our team as we go forward, he has been directed by me, with the support of management, to stay home from the New Orleans game tonight.”

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/westphal_statement_2012_01_01.html

Squad13
01-01-2012, 08:01 PM
Sacto seems to be imploding. Cousins in a baby, but it isn't just him who's not happy. Westphal probably has to go...

:eyebrow: Cousins is a dip ****. :laugh: at the lakers fans saying they'll help us out and trade him for the exception. Also the guy that said Tyreke and Cousins for Rondo :laugh2:

utl768
01-01-2012, 08:02 PM
mike miller for cousins

make it happen riley

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:03 PM
Did this even actually happen??



He's the coach, not the GM. Petrie is rebuilding the franchise, Westphal is doing nothing with it. As to why everybody hates him, he did not implement any kind of an offense. The players have no idea what they're supposed to be doing out there, so they just go iso most of the time. Westphal has no business being the coach of young players and needs to go asap.

Yeah, I know he's the coach, maybe I should have worded it better. When I say rebuild, I meant that he helped guys like Tyreke, Thorton and Cousins develop into the solid players they are today. Guess not, huh?

John Walls Era
01-01-2012, 08:03 PM
Cousins is a king forever..he won't be traded, it says he will sit out the game but will not be traded, everyone chill out. Paul Westphal is going to be released not cousins.

Just go and make your dup account.

Squad13
01-01-2012, 08:03 PM
http://www.nba.com/kings/news/westphal_statement_2012_01_01.html

:speechless: This is ridiculous. What an absolute moron... I feel bad for King fans.

sacgiants1213
01-01-2012, 08:05 PM
Yeah, I know he's the coach, maybe I should have worded it better. When I say rebuild, I meant that he helped guys like Tyreke, Thorton and Cousins develop into the solid players they are today. Guess not, huh?

They're solid players because of their talent. If anything, Westphal is trying to kill their development.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:05 PM
:speechless: This is ridiculous. What an absolute moron... I feel bad for King fans.

that's what happens when josh harrellson ***** on you :cool:

arkanian215
01-01-2012, 08:05 PM
Poor Derek

Sixerlover
01-01-2012, 08:05 PM
:laugh2: aw man this is pretty funny. A 20 year old that played 1.05 seasons in Sac-Town is already demanding a trade

Testaverde16
01-01-2012, 08:06 PM
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and say that this isn't true... Wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong though.

tyfreaks brotha
01-01-2012, 08:06 PM
Little **** punk ***

Davidgta1
01-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Wasnt this the guy that's said you should just stay on ur team or sum thing?

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:08 PM
This is not true by any means. Where is your source? That's right it is nowhere to be found. End thread please before any trolls decide to humiliate themselves.





http://www.nba.com/kings/news/westphal_statement_2012_01_01.html


........

Dat Source

Squad13
01-01-2012, 08:09 PM
mike miller for cousins

make it happen riley

If you're serious you should be banned. You'd be lucky to get a top tier towel boy for Mike Miller.

GiantsSwaGG
01-01-2012, 08:09 PM
This is not true by any means. Where is your source? That's right it is nowhere to be found. End thread please before any trolls decide to humiliate themselves.

You Mad? Stay classy kid

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:09 PM
........

Dat Source

:hi5:

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:10 PM
If you're serious you should be banned. You'd be lucky to get a top tier towel boy for Mike Miller.

:facepalm: you honestly didn't know he was joking? WOW

GiantsSwaGG
01-01-2012, 08:10 PM
He's a big fat b****...But I'll love him on the Knicks

MagicBucsSox
01-01-2012, 08:11 PM
First call Sactown makes...Orlando?

Otis ain't smart enough to get another big

JIDsanity
01-01-2012, 08:11 PM
This didnt just happen. WTF

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Yeah, I know he's the coach, maybe I should have worded it better. When I say rebuild, I meant that he helped guys like Tyreke, Thorton and Cousins develop into the solid players they are today. Guess not, huh?

I wouldn't credit Westphal at all. I mean, Tyreke arguably hasn't developed at all, Thornton's play is just a result of increased playing time and a bigger role, and Cousins is just incredibly talented. No one on the team thus far has said much (if anything) positive about Westphal. I remember when Ime Udoka left the Kings he made comments about how he had never played on such a disorganized, directionless team and talked about how they didn't run any set plays (or something to that extent).

Gram
01-01-2012, 08:13 PM
This is not true by any means. Where is your source? That's right it is nowhere to be found. End thread please before any trolls decide to humiliate themselves.

:facepalm:

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:13 PM
I honestly think the Kings are one of the few teams that could push for Dwight if they really wanted to.

Gram
01-01-2012, 08:14 PM
Cousins is a king forever..he won't be traded, it says he will sit out the game but will not be traded, everyone chill out. Paul Westphal is going to be released not cousins.

I swear, you're ********.

CaptainClutch
01-01-2012, 08:14 PM
3 way deal for the Nets to acquire Dwight? Definitely now that he demanded a deal Billy King has an interested third team

Corey
01-01-2012, 08:16 PM
hahahahahaha

Sucks for the kings though, wasting a high pick on him and such. This thread is just such great timing.

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:16 PM
I wouldn't credit Westphal at all. I mean, Tyreke arguably hasn't developed at all, Thornton's play is just a result of increased playing time and a bigger role, and Cousins is just incredibly talented. No one on the team thus far has said much (if anything) positive about Westphal. I remember when Ime Udoka left the Kings he made comments about how he had never played on such a disorganized, directionless team and talked about how they didn't run any set plays (or something to that extent).

Is it possible both Westphal gets fired and Cousins is dealt ?

naps
01-01-2012, 08:16 PM
What a ****ing moron. Didn't he talk and big-mouth about loyalty a few weeks ago? This guy will be a certified cancer to any team he goes to. I always doubted his attitude. Well, I'll feel bad for the team that gives up any value to get him.

Corey
01-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Cousins is a king forever..he won't be traded, it says he will sit out the game but will not be traded, everyone chill out. Paul Westphal is going to be released not cousins.

Yea, they can't break up the best team in the West over something silly.

They have the potential to be one of the most efficient, explosive, exciting teams in the history of the NBA if they keep the core together.

smith&wesson
01-01-2012, 08:18 PM
raptors should offer ed davis & bayless and a 2nd rounder for him

XpLiCiTT
01-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Bring him to Philly!

JIDsanity
01-01-2012, 08:18 PM
Wait so this isnt a joke? Didnt he say he'd be a King forever?

Davidgta1
01-01-2012, 08:19 PM
Why dose he want a trade?

Zweaty
01-01-2012, 08:19 PM
Didn't he say something like "Players should never demand for a trade and leave their team"

:laugh:

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Cousins deserves to be feeling upset, to all of you people saying he's an idiot, etc need to stfu.

First of all he never even gets the ball passed to him which is ridiculous..and when he does there is less than 5 secs left on the shotclock so what is he suppose to do?
Second yesterday chuck hayes told him to shut up for joking around which is ridiculous..you don't say that to your teammates. And third the offense doesn't run through him enough.
This all leads back to Paul Westphal...he doesn't appreciate cousins enough and doesn't see what everyone else sees..he needs to be replaced by Keith Smart or Bobby Jackson to become the new head coach.

KB24PG16
01-01-2012, 08:20 PM
Lol where's that one kings fan or is he is irrelevant again? :laugh2:

shep33
01-01-2012, 08:22 PM
Nice

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 08:22 PM
Didn't he say something like "Players should never demand for a trade and leave their team"

:laugh:

This whole thread is an epic fail and the OP needs to be banned for starting such idiocy. He did not demand a trade but was simply upset over westphal and therefore westphal started rumors to make him look bad which is ridiculous.

lavilevi23
01-01-2012, 08:22 PM
To the HEAT! :D

KB24PG16
01-01-2012, 08:22 PM
His agent said he never demanded a trade :shrug:

netsgiantsyanks
01-01-2012, 08:23 PM
Cousins is a king forever..he won't be traded, it says he will sit out the game but will not be traded, everyone chill out. Paul Westphal is going to be released not cousins.

this is lmfao worthy.

netsgiantsyanks
01-01-2012, 08:23 PM
player demands trade but coach gets fired? am i missing something?

TheNumber37
01-01-2012, 08:24 PM
cousins for David lee

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 08:24 PM
Is it possible both Westphal gets fired and Cousins is dealt ?

I think so. Had Cousins not demanded a trade and just kept his frustrations in house (maybe get together with Tyreke and a few other players and gone to Petrie to express their frustrations), then we could have just fired Westphal and kept Cousins. Unfortunately, this is something hard to forget. Cousins has pretty much written a ticket out of town and put a permanent stamp on himself as a malcontent. Westphal has to be fired regardless because he's lost the team and showed nothing suggesting we keep him.

Squad13
01-01-2012, 08:25 PM
Cousins deserves to be feeling upset, to all of you people saying he's an idiot, etc need to stfu.

First of all he never even gets the ball passed to him which is ridiculous..and when he does there is less than 5 secs left on the shotclock so what is he suppose to do?
Second yesterday chuck hayes told him to shut up for joking around which is ridiculous..you don't say that to your teammates. And third the offense doesn't run through him enough.
This all leads back to Paul Westphal...he doesn't appreciate cousins enough and doesn't see what everyone else sees..he needs to be replaced by Keith Smart or Bobby Jackson to become the new head coach.
Chuck Hayes should tell his dumb *** to shut up. He's a joke if this is true. If you aren't closely related to him than your post is just pathetic. How can you defend this? First its "this is bs, close the thread" now that there is a link it's "he should be mad! his teammates want him to be serious about basketball and he doesn't always get the ball"

shep33
01-01-2012, 08:25 PM
Can he go back to college?

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:25 PM
Cousins deserves to be feeling upset, to all of you people saying he's an idiot, etc need to stfu.

First of all he never even gets the ball passed to him which is ridiculous..and when he does there is less than 5 secs left on the shotclock so what is he suppose to do?
Second yesterday chuck hayes told him to shut up for joking around which is ridiculous..you don't say that to your teammates. And third the offense doesn't run through him enough.
This all leads back to Paul Westphal...he doesn't appreciate cousins enough and doesn't see what everyone else sees..he needs to be replaced by Keith Smart or Bobby Jackson to become the new head coach.

:facepalm: everything you say on this website makes me laugh. if chuck hayes actually did tell him to shut up because he was joking around, then good **** chuck hayes. why joke around when you're on a ****** team and losing all the time? that's not fun..

the offense shouldn't run through him. he sucks. evans is that team and will be that team. cousins will never be the #1 option on any team.

Gram
01-01-2012, 08:26 PM
Cousins deserves to be feeling upset, to all of you people saying he's an idiot, etc need to stfu.

First of all he never even gets the ball passed to him which is ridiculous..and when he does there is less than 5 secs left on the shotclock so what is he suppose to do?
Second yesterday chuck hayes told him to shut up for joking around which is ridiculous..you don't say that to your teammates. And third the offense doesn't run through him enough.
This all leads back to Paul Westphal...he doesn't appreciate cousins enough and doesn't see what everyone else sees..he needs to be replaced by Keith Smart or Bobby Jackson to become the new head coach.

That first bold just proved that you only like Cousins because he's a King. I'mma Kentucky Wildcat freak, and he was the one that I didn't like just because he's a little ***** off and on the court. Kinda like how you are, except you're never gonna be on the court. So don't act like Cousins is Jesus Christ, alright? He's a little ***** and nothing more.

Chuck Hayes is another guy I remember from UK. He was a leader then and Sactown expects him to be a leader there. He was telling Cousins to get his head in the game. If heads aren't in the game, Sactown won't be anywhere near as good as you claim they'll be.

No one appreciates Cousins outside of Sactown fans. And honestly, as my good friend Gators123 said, the only thing stopping Cousins from being amazing is Cousins. He needs to grow the **** up. Same with you.

shep33
01-01-2012, 08:26 PM
Cousins for Andray Blatche!

KnicksorBust
01-01-2012, 08:26 PM
raptors should offer ed davis & bayless and a 2nd rounder for him

Just for kicks I was looking around at teams that could use him. I don't like Cousins-Bargnani frontcourt. I could see Bobcats taking a gamble on him. Augustin-Henderson-DJ White-Cousins core has some balance. I'm not sure what Kings would want in return though. I don't see Ty Thomas getting it done and the Kings are already set at guard. Personally, I think Cousins needs to just shut up. Not because he's sounding like an obnoxious *******, but because Sacto is a good spot for him. They are young with talented guards, and just signed the ideal compliment for him Chuck Hayes. A defensive minded bigman who passes and doesn't need the ball. He's set up perfectly to get his 20-10 and he's just failing to get the job done.

JNA17
01-01-2012, 08:29 PM
This whole thread is an epic fail and the OP needs to be banned for starting such idiocy. He did not demand a trade but was simply upset over westphal and therefore westphal started rumors to make him look bad which is ridiculous.

I think PSD is witnessing the very first live panic attack!

Don't worry, you still have Jimmer :p.

naps
01-01-2012, 08:29 PM
westphal started rumors to make him look bad which is ridiculous.

:facepalm:

In denial? A coach will never do that.

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:29 PM
Cousins deserves to be feeling upset, to all of you people saying he's an idiot, etc need to stfu.

First of all he never even gets the ball passed to him which is ridiculous..and when he does there is less than 5 secs left on the shotclock so what is he suppose to do?
Second yesterday chuck hayes told him to shut up for joking around which is ridiculous..you don't say that to your teammates. And third the offense doesn't run through him enough.
This all leads back to Paul Westphal...he doesn't appreciate cousins enough and doesn't see what everyone else sees..he needs to be replaced by Keith Smart or Bobby Jackson to become the new head coach.

So basically.....

If you're offensive gameplan isn't working.....Demand a trade

If your teammate is being mean to you.....Demand a trade

If you're angry that the offense is not running through despite this being your SECOND YEAR on the team and that you're 17 for 53 over the past four games.....Demand a trade




K

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 08:30 PM
the offense shouldn't run through him. he sucks. evans is that team and will be that team. cousins will never be the #1 option on any team.

It's funny how people assume someone sucks after one single game. He was 4 for 16 last night..so what..a week ago howard was 2/10 and a couple days ago kyrie was like 2/13. Everyone has bad and good games.

Cousins is only 21 years old and he's already the best passing center and the quickest center with the best dribbling. He knows more post moves than howard yet is still learning more..anyone that says cousins sucks has not watched him play more than two full games.

ThunderousDemon
01-01-2012, 08:32 PM
It's funny how people assume someone sucks after one single game. He was 4 for 16 last night..so what..a week ago howard was 2/10 and a couple days ago kyrie was like 2/13. Everyone has bad and good games.

Cousins is only 21 years old and he's already the best passing center and the quickest center with the best dribbling. He knows more post moves than howard yet is still learning more..anyone that says cousins sucks has not watched him play more than two full games.

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

Cano-Montero...
01-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Call Minny and trade with them..

Cousins for WIlliams and Johnson...

papipapsmanny
01-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Blatche for Cousins, trade these two retards for each other

Squad13
01-01-2012, 08:36 PM
It's funny how people assume someone sucks after one single game. He was 4 for 16 last night..so what..a week ago howard was 2/10 and a couple days ago kyrie was like 2/13. Everyone has bad and good games.

Cousins is only 21 years old and he's already the best passing center and the quickest center with the best dribbling. He knows more post moves than howard yet is still learning more..anyone that says cousins sucks has not watched him play more than two full games.
I can't think of anything more important to the center position.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:36 PM
It's funny how people assume someone sucks after one single game. He was 4 for 16 last night..so what..a week ago howard was 2/10 and a couple days ago kyrie was like 2/13. Everyone has bad and good games.

Cousins is only 21 years old and he's already the best passing center and the quickest center with the best dribbling. He knows more post moves than howard yet is still learning more..anyone that says cousins sucks has not watched him play more than two full games.

:facepalm: i really just wanna like punch you in the face because of how stupid you sound. NO ONE THINKS HE IS GOOD EXCEPT FOR YOU. i watched him in college and didn't even think he was that good. he's not good at all, and you're the only one that's sucking his balls day in and day out. if he knows more post moves than howard, then why is he not scoring? 21 for 53 in 4 games is TERRIBLE, especially as a center. most of those FGAs are in the post, which should be handed to them if they're in the NBA.

DeRozan10
01-01-2012, 08:36 PM
I will gladly take this kid on my team any day of the week

ThunderousDemon
01-01-2012, 08:37 PM
It's funny how people assume someone sucks after one single game. He was 4 for 16 last night..so what..a week ago howard was 2/10 and a couple days ago kyrie was like 2/13. Everyone has bad and good games.

Cousins is only 21 years old and he's already the best passing center and the quickest center with the best dribbling. He knows more post moves than howard yet is still learning more..anyone that says cousins sucks has not watched him play more than two full games.


Puke Walton for Cousins. Both players have a downside.

DeRozan10
01-01-2012, 08:37 PM
Can he play any PF or is he stricly a C

xnick5757
01-01-2012, 08:37 PM
AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
DeMarcus Cousins' agent says that his client has NOT demanded a trade. Sacramento Kings' press release says otherwise. This is strange.

?

The_Jamal
01-01-2012, 08:37 PM
Are u ****ing kidding me?

what a god damn douche, he was just saying that players should be loyal to their teams. hopefully we can rape a team for him though

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:38 PM
Omg. Are you stupid or do you have downs or is it both? He NEVER DEMANDED A TRADE. It was speculated but it is 100% untrue. That is why you shouldn't always trust anything you read online from "credible sources". He did not demand a trade but he did show frustration with our coach, and he isn't the only one. Tyreke showed it as well as many other players on our roster. Cousins was the only one to have enough guts to say something about it and he gets scrutinized for it. If everyone else decided to step up and backup cousins he wouldn't be in this situation. #firewestphal #savetheduo

#savetheduo


Tyreke+Chuck Hayes 4 lyfe

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:38 PM
Omg. Are you stupid or do you have downs or is it both? He NEVER DEMANDED A TRADE. It was speculated but it is 100% untrue. That is why you shouldn't always trust anything you read online from "credible sources". He did not demand a trade but he did show frustration with our coach, and he isn't the only one. Tyreke showed it as well as many other players on our roster. Cousins was the only one to have enough guts to say something about it and he gets scrutinized for it. If everyone else decided to step up and backup cousins he wouldn't be in this situation. #firewestphal #savetheduo

so then how do you know it's "100% untrue"?

Corey
01-01-2012, 08:39 PM
Cousins deserves to be feeling upset, to all of you people saying he's an idiot, etc need to stfu.

First of all he never even gets the ball passed to him which is ridiculous..and when he does there is less than 5 secs left on the shotclock so what is he suppose to do?
He's attempting 14.5 shots per game.

Second yesterday chuck hayes told him to shut up for joking around which is ridiculous..you don't say that to your teammates.
Veterans do. It's called teaching young players how to be mature.

And third the offense doesn't run through him enough.
The only player attempting more shots than him this year is Thornton.

xnick5757
01-01-2012, 08:40 PM
sam_amick Sam Amick
Cousins' agent, John Greig, tells SI.com: "DeMarcus never demanded a trade. I'm surprised the Kings, if they believe the player wanted a trade, wouldn't have made a phone call to his representative. Maybe Westphal is just feeling the heat early this season.""

???

The_Jamal
01-01-2012, 08:40 PM
Actually, reading the CBS report it sounds like it's Westphal got his feelings hurt because he can't run an offense. i SERIOUSLY doubt a player would demand a trade without contacting his agent

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:41 PM
i wouldn't even trade josh harrellson for this bum. NOT EVEN JEREMY LIN!

BKLYNpigeon
01-01-2012, 08:41 PM
Cousins will play himself out of the League in 3-5 years. these type of players come and go all the time.

Cousins = Jamarcus Russel.

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:43 PM
i wouldn't even trade josh harrellson for this bum. NOT EVEN JEREMY LIN!

Josh Harrellson violated Cousins when they went head to head

ThunderousDemon
01-01-2012, 08:43 PM
The Sacramento Queens are in distress, where's Maloof pounding his chest like an idiot when you need him.

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 08:44 PM
:facepalm: i really just wanna like punch you in the face because of how stupid you sound. NO ONE THINKS HE IS GOOD EXCEPT FOR YOU. i watched him in college and didn't even think he was that good. he's not good at all, and you're the only one that's sucking his balls day in and day out. if he knows more post moves than howard, then why is he not scoring? 21 for 53 in 4 games is TERRIBLE, especially as a center. most of those FGAs are in the post, which should be handed to them if they're in the NBA.

He was 21 for 53 in 4 games but did you watch those games? I did and I can tell you they were absolute BS games. Every time the ball kept rimming out, circling around and finding its way out of the hoop. He didn't really miss they have just been ridiculously unlucky games. Sometimes you go on unlucky streaks where the ball just rims out for some reason. It's not about whether you actually make the shots its about how close you are to making them. Plus the only reason howard scores well is because most centers are scared of him and are afraid to foul him. Cousins hasn't earned a tough reputation yet but when he does he will be much more efficient.

utl768
01-01-2012, 08:44 PM
If you're serious you should be banned. You'd be lucky to get a top tier towel boy for Mike Miller.

obvious joke altho if memphis can deal gasol for kwame brown and the twolves can deal al jefferson for nothing anything can happen

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 08:44 PM
:facepalm: i really just wanna like punch you in the face because of how stupid you sound. NO ONE THINKS HE IS GOOD EXCEPT FOR YOU. i watched him in college and didn't even think he was that good. he's not good at all, and you're the only one that's sucking his balls day in and day out. if he knows more post moves than howard, then why is he not scoring? 21 for 53 in 4 games is TERRIBLE, especially as a center. most of those FGAs are in the post, which should be handed to them if they're in the NBA.
seriously? that's uncalled for, and you're overreacting.

To be fair, Cousins really is not used properly. We don't have any offensive identity and basically just go iso all the time. He's often left with almost no time to actually utilize any post moves and is left having to take bad shots. To say he is no good (or terrible as you put it) is just as ridiculous as the claims that he's one of the best. His main issue is by far his maturity. He has all the potential to be very good to great. You don't give up on that after one season.

Korman12
01-01-2012, 08:45 PM
The season just started, what the hell?

The_Jamal
01-01-2012, 08:45 PM
#savetheduo


Tyreke+Chuck Hayes 4 lyfe

Don't hate on the ChuckWagon

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 08:46 PM
Josh Harrellson violated Cousins when they went head to head

Wtf are you talking about. Harrellson is a bum and if I ever saw him in real life I would beat him up. That kid got lucky that night and was shooting open shots. What do you mean by violated? All of Harrellsons shots were wide open 3s because we were too busy locking out melo in the paint. Watch the games before you guess what happend. Harrellson is a 1 sided 3 point shooter who is worse than jason kapono, you sould like a fool right now.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:47 PM
Marc Berman @NYPost_Berman 9m
If Cousins demanded a trade, it is because ex-mate Harrellson outplayed him last night.


:cool:

hgtiger32
01-01-2012, 08:47 PM
i'm calling bluff. cousins just got upset, doubt he actually gets traded

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:47 PM
Don't hate on the ChuckWagon

What? I love Chuck Hayes. I was pushing for the Pacers to sign him this offseason. I would of rather had him than West.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:48 PM
He was 21 for 53 in 4 games but did you watch those games? I did and I can tell you they were absolute BS games. Every time the ball kept rimming out, circling around and finding its way out of the hoop. He didn't really miss they have just been ridiculously unlucky games. Sometimes you go on unlucky streaks where the ball just rims out for some reason. It's not about whether you actually make the shots its about how close you are to making them. Plus the only reason howard scores well is because most centers are scared of him and are afraid to foul him. Cousins hasn't earned a tough reputation yet but when he does he will be much more efficient.

a miss is a miss. there's nothing "ridiculously unlucky" about missing.

kingsdelez24
01-01-2012, 08:50 PM
Wtf are you talking about. Harrellson is a bum and if I ever saw him in real life I would beat him up. That kid got lucky that night and was shooting open shots. What do you mean by violated? All of Harrellsons shots were wide open 3s because we were too busy locking out melo in the paint. Watch the games before you guess what happend. Harrellson is a 1 sided 3 point shooter who is worse than jason kapono, you sould like a fool right now.

Get the **** off your computer you stupid ****ing troll... Fire westphal, end of story. The situation is bad enough without your homerism

GrandDaddyPurp
01-01-2012, 08:50 PM
HAHAHAHA

DeMarcus Cousins will be a King forever. This absolutely false. If anyone is leaving the Kings, it's going to be PW.

I find it hilarious how quick you doubters are to ridicule DeMarcus Cousins. Now that you think he might be traded, everyone suddenly wants him on their respective teams for absolute trash.

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 08:52 PM
I just want to know what really happened.

AddiX
01-01-2012, 08:53 PM
HAHAHAHA

DeMarcus Cousins will be a King forever. This absolutely false. If anyone is leaving the Kings, it's going to be PW.

I find it hilarious how quick you doubters are to ridicule DeMarcus Cousins. Now that you think he might be traded, everyone suddenly wants him on their respective teams for absolute trash.

Hes got talent for sure, but he's the equivalent of the class clown of the NBA, if he did demand a trade, don't expect anyone to offer any real assets for him.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 08:53 PM
HAHAHAHA

DeMarcus Cousins will be a King forever. This absolutely false. If anyone is leaving the Kings, it's going to be PW.

I find it hilarious how quick you doubters are to ridicule DeMarcus Cousins. Now that you think he might be traded, everyone suddenly wants him on their respective teams for absolute trash.

so if josh harrellson is trash, what is cousins since he shat on him last night? :eyebrow:

JNA17
01-01-2012, 08:54 PM
everyone suddenly wants him on their respective teams forabsolute trash.

Which fits Cousins's description perfectly.

Gram
01-01-2012, 08:55 PM
seriously? that's uncalled for, and you're overreacting.

To be fair, Cousins really is not used properly. We don't have any offensive identity and basically just go iso all the time. He's often left with almost no time to actually utilize any post moves and is left having to take bad shots. To say he is no good (or terrible as you put it) is just as ridiculous as the claims that he's one of the best. His main issue is by far his maturity. He has all the potential to be very good to great. You don't give up on that after one season.

So this guy can't say that he wants to punch CEDUO in the face, but CEDUO can say that he wants to beat up Josh Harrelson?

GrandDaddyPurp
01-01-2012, 08:57 PM
Explain to me how this is false? Its a statement from their own coach on their own website. Just do the world a favor and jump off a cliff.

His agent said he never demanded a trade and it's obvious who needs to leave the team.

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 08:58 PM
So this guy can't say that he wants to punch CEDUO in the face, but CEDUO can say that he wants to beat up Josh Harrelson?

No, neither is okay. I would never defend the majority of what CEDuo says. He is not representative of most Kings fans.

The_Jamal
01-01-2012, 08:58 PM
a miss is a miss. there's nothing "ridiculously unlucky" about missing.

There isn't a team in basketball who wouldn't make a call to Petrie if Cousins was on the trade block. Attitude issues and everything

lvlheaded
01-01-2012, 08:58 PM
I'd take him

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 08:59 PM
Wtf are you talking about. Harrellson is a bum and if I ever saw him in real life I would beat him up. That kid got lucky that night and was shooting open shots. What do you mean by violated? All of Harrellsons shots were wide open 3s because we were too busy locking out melo in the paint. Watch the games before you guess what happend. Harrellson is a 1 sided 3 point shooter who is worse than jason kapono, you sould like a fool right now.

He had five offensive rebounds and held Cousins to 2-10, I think he's okay with the performance he had. :shrug:

And why do you say everything so matter-of-fact? Do you have any insider information that we don't? Are you a part of the Kings front office? Are you Demarcus Cousins? We all have the exact same amount of information at this point. Calm down and wait it out.

GrandDaddyPurp
01-01-2012, 08:59 PM
so if josh harrellson is trash, what is cousins since he shat on him last night? :eyebrow:

That was one game. Chill out. The Knicks still have a lot to prove and that team isn't getting any younger.

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 09:00 PM
It's a complete joke that people on here think Cousins is that bad, yet there were a ton of people commenting about how they wanted to trade x, y, and z for him. If you think Cousins is horrible, you haven't watched him enough.

iggypop123
01-01-2012, 09:02 PM
oh oh woj confirms. He and westphal hate each other

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 09:03 PM
That was one game. Chill out. The Knicks still have a lot to prove and that team isn't getting any younger.

don't give me that ********. if cousins was "the best center" as CEDUO said, then he should've shut down harrellson who was drafted in the 2nd round and basically played 1 year of college ball, BEHIND cousins at kentucky.

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 09:03 PM
The bottom line is all of us kings fans love cousins and we need to support the best center we've ever had. If that means getting rid of westphal then so be it.
You know its not just cousins, evans was mad too. What next we trade our 20-5-5 roy? You people have got to be kidding me.

Cal827
01-01-2012, 09:03 PM
:laugh: You know some team will offer a decent amount though... headcase or not, he is a Center with good potential. With the weak pool of Centers, he's near top 10 now. You know that one team would say that they could change his attitude and offer a decent amount back.

Lol at the Tag.

ManRam
01-01-2012, 09:03 PM
guys, cut out the baiting and insults. Infractions will be doled out if you keep it up. People are entitled to their opinions. If you disagree, say why, don't just insult the poster.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:05 PM
The bottom line is all of us kings fans love cousins and we need to support the best center we've ever had. If that means getting rid of westphal then so be it.
You know its not just cousins, evans was mad too. What next we trade our 20-5-5 roy? You people have got to be kidding me.

Am I on your ignore list or something? You haven't responded to me once all night. ;)

ThunderousDemon
01-01-2012, 09:05 PM
Cousins attitude is what's holding him back from becoming an all star.If he can fix that then he'll become a great center or PF one day

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 09:05 PM
don't give me that ********. if cousins was "the best center" as CEDUO said, then he should've shut down harrellson who was drafted in the 2nd round and basically played 1 year of college ball, BEHIND cousins at kentucky.

There you go again, imagining things. When cousins was out on the court harrellson wasn't making anything. You are forgetting cousins only played 25~ mins that games. When it was real defense harrelson did not do crap. Give the credit to D'Antoni, your coach is fkn good, isolating harrelson to give him lucky wide open shots. Bottom line is Harrelson is utter garbage and would never do what he did last night if it weren't for our coachs bad defensive isolation plays.

Knicks21
01-01-2012, 09:06 PM
It's a complete joke that people on here think Cousins is that bad, yet there were a ton of people commenting about how they wanted to trade x, y, and z for him. If you think Cousins is horrible, you haven't watched him enough.

His childish attitude overshadows his talent.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:06 PM
guys, cut out the baiting and insults. Infractions will be doled out if you keep it up. People are entitled to their opinions. If you disagree, say why, don't just insult the poster.

CEDUO started it!

Njsportsfreak
01-01-2012, 09:06 PM
Billy King is gonna work him into a multi team deal that brings Dwight to the Nets :D



I was thinking the same thing well if it's true about him demanding a trade could become a big piece to the trade the nets are trying to put together for Howard hands down

But will laugh so hard if magic lose him for nothing

Fly
01-01-2012, 09:07 PM
Cousins is a headcase. I say get him out of Sac. before he becomes too much of a cancer. You'll probably be able to net a lot in a trade for him

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 09:07 PM
The bottom line is all of us kings fans love cousins and we need to support the best center we've ever had. If that means getting rid of westphal then so be it.
You know its not just cousins, evans was mad too. What next we trade our 20-5-5 roy? You people have got to be kidding me.

idk you tell us, you're the troll..

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:07 PM
There you go again, imagining things. When cousins was out on the court harrellson wasn't making anything. You are forgetting cousins only played 25~ mins that games. When it was real defense harrelson did not do crap. Give the credit to D'Antoni, your coach is fkn good, isolating harrelson to give him lucky wide open shots. Bottom line is Harrelson is utter garbage and would never do what he did last night if it weren't for our coachs bad defensive isolation plays.

Respect your elders son.

onlythisfar41
01-01-2012, 09:08 PM
He was 21 for 53 in 4 games but did you watch those games? I did and I can tell you they were absolute BS games. Every time the ball kept rimming out, circling around and finding its way out of the hoop. He didn't really miss they have just been ridiculously unlucky games. Sometimes you go on unlucky streaks where the ball just rims out for some reason. It's not about whether you actually make the shots its about how close you are to making them. Plus the only reason howard scores well is because most centers are scared of him and are afraid to foul him. Cousins hasn't earned a tough reputation yet but when he does he will be much more efficient.

Well that has to be the stupidest thing ever said on PSD. What do you mean its not about making shots, of course it is, thats all its about. You dont get points for your team by almost making a shot. Not making a shot is not making a shot. Whether it almost goes in or youre ten feet wide, it still counts for zero.

But why should i expect anything different from you, youre the same guy who said Tyreke was going to be a flawless jumpshooter (so far extremely untrue, as well as his inability to hit free throws) and that Jimmer was going to be close to 30PPG this year (has not shown even a mild ability to produce that)

ManRam
01-01-2012, 09:08 PM
CEDUO started it!

I don't really care who started it, I just want everyone to stop it. :shrug:


He's a controversial player, for sure. Doesn't mean everything should resort to name-calling and petty arguments. Just keep this on topic, shouldn't be hard.

I'd ship him out, AND fire Westphal. Don't want either to look like they won here...

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 09:09 PM
There you go again, imagining things. When cousins was out on the court harrellson wasn't making anything. You are forgetting cousins only played 25~ mins that games. When it was real defense harrelson did not do crap. Give the credit to D'Antoni, your coach is fkn good, isolating harrelson to give him lucky wide open shots. Bottom line is Harrelson is utter garbage and would never do what he did last night if it weren't for our coachs bad defensive isolation plays.

coaches shouldn't be getting the credit or lack of credit. they don't play the games, the players do. so it wasn't PW's fault that harrellson had a good game, it was because cousin sucks on defense and is lazy. face it kid, you're not winning any argument on this website, EVER.

GrandDaddyPurp
01-01-2012, 09:09 PM
don't give me that ********. if cousins was "the best center" as CEDUO said, then he should've shut down harrellson who was drafted in the 2nd round and basically played 1 year of college ball, BEHIND cousins at kentucky.

There really isn't much else to this...

But you know what, we can play by your logic. If an all-star player has one sub par game against an inferior defender then the defending player becomes the better player by default. It makes perfect sense.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:10 PM
I don't really care who started it, I just want everyone to stop it. :shrug:


He's a controversial player, for sure. Doesn't mean everything should resort to name-calling and petty arguments. Just keep this on topic, shouldn't be hard.

I'd ship him out, AND fire Westphal. Don't want either to look like they won here...

The ones who started it are the ones who should be getting infractions, so really, you should care my friend. :shrug:

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 09:10 PM
The bottom line is all of us kings fans love cousins and we need to support the best center we've ever had. If that means getting rid of westphal then so be it.
You know its not just cousins, evans was mad too. What next we trade our 20-5-5 roy? You people have got to be kidding me.

I do think we need to fire Westphal. Cousins...if his attitude really is that bad, we need to explore trades. I'm not saying we have to trade him, but we should at least see what the market is like. I'm hoping we can just get a coach who can install an offense and have the respect and trust of the players.

Mudvayne91
01-01-2012, 09:11 PM
He's certainly a piece of work, but can deny I wouldn't hate having him on the Nugs

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:13 PM
There really isn't much else to this...

But you know what, we can play by your logic. If an all-star player has one sub par game against an inferior defender then the defending player becomes the better player by default. It makes perfect sense.

Hey, you sound like CEduo's spokeperson, considering he hasn't answered me all night. You like siding with him, so answer me this. How is Cousins better than Howard? You King fans all think alike so if CEduo can't answer me I guess you could. :shrug:

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 09:13 PM
coaches shouldn't be getting the credit or lack of credit. they don't play the games, the players do. so it wasn't PW's fault that harrellson had a good game, it was because cousin sucks on defense and is lazy. face it kid, you're not winning any argument on this website, EVER.

How do you expect me to win an argument when you provide me with magical facts that are not backed up by anything? How do you even argue against that? I'm done replying to you because all of your reply's have been your personal opinions swaying your mind.

Corey
01-01-2012, 09:13 PM
No, neither is okay. I would never defend the majority of what CEDuo says. He is not representative of most Kings fans.

I feel bad for Kings fans like this guy that are getting trolled because of the actions of a few fans.

Keep your chin up JLynn. Respect.

AddiX
01-01-2012, 09:14 PM
I don't think any coach will want him in there locker room. He has serious maturity issues.

sunsfan88
01-01-2012, 09:14 PM
Sent him to PHX! Nash & Hill will take care of his attitude problems.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:15 PM
Sent him to PHX! Nash & Hill will take care of his attitude problems.

I doubt class acts like them would even be able to my friend.

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 09:16 PM
Hey, you sound like CEduo's spokeperson, considering he hasn't answered me all night. You like siding with him, so answer me this. How is Cousins better than Howard? You King fans all think alike so if CEduo can't answer me I guess you could. :shrug:

Nobody ever said he is better than howard. How the hell do you expect a 21 year old to be better than an experienced man who is in his prime. Nobodys saying the present is he is better, rather he has made all the necessary moves in the current present and past to open the road to be just as good if not better than howard in the future.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:16 PM
How do you expect me to win an argument when you provide me with magical facts that are not backed up by anything? How do you even argue against that? I'm done replying to you because all of your reply's have been your personal opinions swaying your mind.

I never had the honour of hearing that from you when you stopped answering me! It's not fair! :cry:

onlythisfar41
01-01-2012, 09:16 PM
How do you expect me to win an argument when you provide me with magical facts that are not backed up by anything? How do you even argue against that? I'm done replying to you because all of your reply's have been your personal opinions swaying your mind.

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when youre the guy who said that its not about making shots its about how close you get to making them?

GrandDaddyPurp
01-01-2012, 09:17 PM
Hey, you sound like CEduo's spokeperson, considering he hasn't answered me all night. You like siding with him, so answer me this. How is Cousins better than Howard? You King fans all think alike so if CEduo can't answer me I guess you could. :shrug:

He is not better than Howard.

DeMarcus is only 21 years old so he has all the potential in the world. So does that mean he can be better than Howard? Yes, it does. Will he better than Howard? The homer in me says yes but it's going to take him a lot work to get there.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 09:17 PM
How do you expect me to win an argument when you provide me with magical facts that are not backed up by anything? How do you even argue against that? I'm done replying to you because all of your reply's have been your personal opinions swaying your mind.

personal opinions that everyone agrees with. trust me, i'm not alone with that one. you're the only one that drools over cousins. no one is impressed with him because he's not good at all. i don't know what you're drinking, but it's certainly working.

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Hey, you sound like CEduo's spokeperson, considering he hasn't answered me all night. You like siding with him, so answer me this. How is Cousins better than Howard? You King fans all think alike so if CEduo can't answer me I guess you could. :shrug:

No, we do not all think alike. No other Kings fan that I have seen has actually claimed that Cousins is somehow better than Howard. Like I said, CEDuo is not representative of most Kings fans.

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 09:18 PM
He is not better than Howard.

DeMarcus is only 21 years old so he has all the potential in the world. So does that mean he can be better than Howard? Yes, it does. Will he better than Howard? The homer in me says yes but it's going to take him a lot work to get there.

i'm now convinced this is CEDUO's dupe.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:19 PM
Nobody ever said he is better than howard. How the hell do you expect a 21 year old to be better than an experienced man who is in his prime. Nobodys saying the present is he is better, rather he has made all the necessary moves in the current present and past to open the road to be just as good if not better than howard in the future.

Lmfao are you kidding? The first post I ever saw by you was you saying Cousins was better than Dwight.

My proof:


Really? A troll? So speaking my opinion makes me a troll? Honestly you people need to grow up. And Kingbrentg I do apologize for my language It just makes me laugh when people say Howard is better than Cousins because it's so illogical.

Make up your mind son, and what did I tell you about lying to people? ;)

itsripcity32
01-01-2012, 09:19 PM
It's alright Kings fans, you guys could have drafted Greg Monroe.




Oh wait, that doesn't help. Sorry

Raps18-19 Champ
01-01-2012, 09:20 PM
Cousins and Fredette for Howard type deal?

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:20 PM
No, we do not all think alike. No other Kings fan that I have seen has actually claimed that Cousins is somehow better than Howard. Like I said, CEDuo is not representative of most Kings fans.

**** bro you're getting ripped in half tonight, indirectly. And for that I apologize. Just remember, when the mods here finally realize CEDuo needs to go all your problems will be solved. <3

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 09:21 PM
How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when youre the guy who said that its not about making shots its about how close you get to making them?

I am a philosophical optimist. If you had even a slight fraction of realization you would realize I did not mean that literally. Obviously it matters for shots to go in, that is self evident. But it means a lot when a shot is extremely close to going in, and all of cousins shots when he was in the post were practically going in. When that happens you cant take that game that the player had seriously because it was just an offgame. An unlucky game. And likewise sometimes players who are under-skilled offensively get wide open, uncontested threes that also rim out, (because that is what was happening, most of harrelsons 3s spun around as well but luckily went in)but somehow come in. Sometimes a game plays on chance and by luck and you can't take that seriously.

onlythisfar41
01-01-2012, 09:22 PM
He was 21 for 53 in 4 games but did you watch those games? I did and I can tell you they were absolute BS games. Every time the ball kept rimming out, circling around and finding its way out of the hoop. He didn't really miss they have just been ridiculously unlucky games. Sometimes you go on unlucky streaks where the ball just rims out for some reason. It's not about whether you actually make the shots its about how close you are to making them. Plus the only reason howard scores well is because most centers are scared of him and are afraid to foul him. Cousins hasn't earned a tough reputation yet but when he does he will be much more efficient.

Ill say it one more time, seriously guys, the second someone says anything like the statement in bold above, you know they can not be taken seriously. Hes a troll, you have to stop arguing with him, he will never stop with his insanity.

Knicks21
01-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Well that has to be the stupidest thing ever said on PSD. What do you mean its not about making shots, of course it is, thats all its about. You dont get points for your team by almost making a shot. Not making a shot is not making a shot. Whether it almost goes in or youre ten feet wide, it still counts for zero.

But why should i expect anything different from you, youre the same guy who said Tyreke was going to be a flawless jumpshooter (so far extremely untrue, as well as his inability to hit free throws) and that Jimmer was going to be close to 30PPG this year (has not shown even a mild ability to produce that)

Ahahahahaha, good pickup.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:22 PM
It's alright Kings fans, you guys could have drafted Greg Monroe.




Oh wait, that doesn't help. Sorry

I was wondering when you'd turn up bro. I've had to take the charge against the Kings fans without ya. <3

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 09:22 PM
I feel bad for Kings fans like this guy that are getting trolled because of the actions of a few fans.

Keep your chin up JLynn. Respect.

haha, thanks. This is just getting ugly in here all over a situation that I'm sure we do not know the whole story of yet. I didn't realize how bad the reputation of Kings fans was though....

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 09:23 PM
Cousins and Fredette for Howard type deal?

I think they would be more interested in Thorton than Jimmer.

CousinsEvansDUO
01-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Lmfao are you kidding? The first post I ever saw by you was you saying Cousins was better than Dwight.

My proof:



Make up your mind son, and what did I tell you about lying to people? ;)

Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

For example, Steve Nash has ZERO value long term, yet he has some value short term. Cousins has great value right now, at 21 years of age, and he will have great value for another 10-15 years. In that sense Cousins is indeed better than howard.

Knicks21
01-01-2012, 09:24 PM
I am a philosophical optimist. If you had even a slight fraction of realization you would realize I did not mean that literally. Obviously it matters for shots to go in, that is self evident. But it means a lot when a shot is extremely close to going in, and all of cousins shots when he was in the post were practically going in. When that happens you cant take that game that the player had seriously because it was just an offgame. An unlucky game. And likewise sometimes players who are under-skilled offensively get wide open, uncontested threes that also rim out, (because that is what was happening, most of harrelsons 3s spun around as well but luckily went in)but somehow come in. Sometimes a game plays on chance and by luck and you can't take that seriously.

In practice, maybe. In games, absolutely not.

Raps18-19 Champ
01-01-2012, 09:25 PM
I think they would be more interested in Thorton than Jimmer.

Forgot he was on the team.

But either way, it will be Cousins and 1 other young talent to get Howard to the Kings if they are interested.

onlythisfar41
01-01-2012, 09:25 PM
I am a philosophical optimist. If you had even a slight fraction of realization you would realize I did not mean that literally. Obviously it matters for shots to go in, that is self evident. But it means a lot when a shot is extremely close to going in, and all of cousins shots when he was in the post were practically going in. When that happens you cant take that game that the player had seriously because it was just an offgame. An unlucky game. And likewise sometimes players who are under-skilled offensively get wide open, uncontested threes that also rim out, (because that is what was happening, most of harrelsons 3s spun around as well but luckily went in)but somehow come in. Sometimes a game plays on chance and by luck and you can't take that seriously.

Pretty much it comes down who hits their shots, thats all an NBA game is about. I dont care how close a shot is going in, if they dont go in then they dont go in. There is no two ways to look at it.

If Kobe shoots 20 shots and all of them almost pop out of the rim but then fall in and he scores, that is worth more points every time than Cousins shooting 100 shots that almost go in but fall out.

One more time, if they dont go in, they dont go in. End of discussion.

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 09:26 PM
Love the tag on this thread. Just noticed it. :laugh2:

GrandDaddyPurp
01-01-2012, 09:26 PM
i'm now convinced this is CEDUO's dupe.


Okay thank you for replying to my post. It was a great discussion..

JNA17
01-01-2012, 09:26 PM
Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

New sig time.

Knicks21
01-01-2012, 09:27 PM
Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

For example, Steve Nash has ZERO value long term, yet he has some value short term. Cousins has great value right now, at 21 years of age, and he will have great value for another 10-15 years. In that sense Cousins is indeed better than howard.

jeepers.

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 09:28 PM
**** bro you're getting ripped in half tonight, indirectly. And for that I apologize. Just remember, when the mods here finally realize CEDuo needs to go all your problems will be solved. <3

haha, no worries. I know CEDuo makes some really irrational, absurd statements. I just hope people realize that we're not all crazy lol.

Mr. Baller
01-01-2012, 09:28 PM
Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

For example, Steve Nash has ZERO value long term, yet he has some value short term. Cousins has great value right now, at 21 years of age, and he will have great value for another 10-15 years. In that sense Cousins is indeed better than howard.

:speechless::speechless::speechless::speechless:

Stuckey#3
01-01-2012, 09:28 PM
Daye and 2012 first for Cousins! Bring him to Detroit. He and Moose could potentially be the most dominant frontcourt tandem the NBA has seen in years.

I used to rip on this kid. But after watching a couple Kings games this season (thanks free preview NBA League Pass) he is the only bright spot on that terrible disorganized roster... besides maybe Thornton. Westphall is a Dip$hit. When you have someone as talented as DC you have to work with them.

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

For example, Steve Nash has ZERO value long term, yet he has some value short term. Cousins has great value right now, at 21 years of age, and he will have great value for another 10-15 years. In that sense Cousins is indeed better than howard.

I'd rather have Dwight for the future on my Pistons than Cousins. And that's because I watched him at Kentucky and he hasn't changed one damn bit.

But son, you ducked outta question, why'd you lie? That breaks my heart that my own son would lie to me. </3

Gram
01-01-2012, 09:31 PM
haha, no worries. I know CEDuo makes some really irrational, absurd statements. I just hope people realize that we're not all crazy lol.

Haha, nahh man. Some a you Kings guys are cool. Derek, although he did troll us mighty bad once and got no punishment for it, is a good kid. sfgiants is a respectable mod. Other guys too. It's really just CEduo and Granddaddy. lol.

sunsfan88
01-01-2012, 09:31 PM
I doubt class acts like them would even be able to my friend.
We don't have a choice. We're awful.

VCaintdead17
01-01-2012, 09:32 PM
Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

For example, Steve Nash has ZERO value long term, yet he has some value short term. Cousins has great value right now, at 21 years of age, and he will have great value for another 10-15 years. In that sense Cousins is indeed better than howard.

...

Dat logic

knicks=love
01-01-2012, 09:33 PM
I am a philosophical optimist. If you had even a slight fraction of realization you would realize I did not mean that literally. Obviously it matters for shots to go in, that is self evident. But it means a lot when a shot is extremely close to going in, and all of cousins shots when he was in the post were practically going in. When that happens you cant take that game that the player had seriously because it was just an offgame. An unlucky game. And likewise sometimes players who are under-skilled offensively get wide open, uncontested threes that also rim out, (because that is what was happening, most of harrelsons 3s spun around as well but luckily went in)but somehow come in. Sometimes a game plays on chance and by luck and you can't take that seriously.

:laugh:

StriveGreatness
01-01-2012, 09:34 PM
He's shooting a cool 32% from the field as a Center...:facepalm:

That's terrible. This guy will be an average player at best. Wouldn't be surprised if he is out of the league in less than 3 years though.

Rocketsfan85
01-01-2012, 09:35 PM
We could use him in Houston. I know they wanted to trade for the kid on draft night

Zweaty
01-01-2012, 09:36 PM
He's going to end up doing heroin

itsripcity32
01-01-2012, 09:37 PM
I'd rather have Dwight for the future on my Pistons than Cousins. And that's because I watched him at Kentucky and he hasn't changed one damn bit.

But son, you ducked outta question, why'd you lie? That breaks my heart that my own son would lie to me. </3

dwwwwwwwwwwight howard>>>cousiins

Spiggity_ace
01-01-2012, 09:37 PM
cousins reminds me of derrick coleman, all the talent in the world, but he mite waste it being a douchebag like this and this comes after saying u should be loyal to ur team LOL maybe theyllt rade him for dswight

JLynn943
01-01-2012, 09:39 PM
Forgot he was on the team.

But either way, it will be Cousins and 1 other young talent to get Howard to the Kings if they are interested.

:pray: I don't know how interested they would be in Thornton since (at least in my opinion) he's pretty much a Jason Richardson clone, but I'd give them Cousins and whoever they want other than Tyreke (can't lose both on a potential one-year rental). I think there is at least some hope Dwight could resign with us though. He and Tyreke are friends, and if we can get a new arena and hopefully a new coach, along with the talent we have I think we could hopefully offer enough to keep him around. We definitely will have the cap space.

jrm2054
01-01-2012, 09:45 PM
this guy is pathetic

Rocketsfan85
01-01-2012, 09:45 PM
Cousins will be better than Howard I'm the long run. IMO Howard isn't gonna get any better all he is is a power player he has no post moves or post game Cousins has a better offensive game than Howard. I think Cousins will be better in the long run if he can get his head right and grow up

GrandDaddyPurp
01-01-2012, 09:50 PM
Cousins will be better than Howard I'm the long run. IMO Howard isn't gonna get any better all he is is a power player he has no post moves or post game Cousins has a better offensive game than Howard. I think Cousins will be better in the long run if he can get his head right and grow up

You can't say that. PSD has officially made it illegal.

JerseysFinest
01-01-2012, 09:57 PM
I think if Houston wanted him they could come up with a nice package

kingsdelez24
01-01-2012, 09:58 PM
Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

For example, Steve Nash has ZERO value long term, yet he has some value short term. Cousins has great value right now, at 21 years of age, and he will have great value for another 10-15 years. In that sense Cousins is indeed better than howard.

http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12471/12770861.jpg

asandhu23
01-01-2012, 09:58 PM
Sweet! Warriors need a big man with potential. Mark Jackson can control him. Jerry West, make yer move!

asandhu23
01-01-2012, 09:58 PM
http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/12/12471/12770861.jpg

:laugh2:

THE MTL
01-01-2012, 10:00 PM
Ppl knock Carmelo, Lebron, Paul, Bosh for leaving their teams. At least these players gave their respective teams their VERY BEST and remained loyal 7 years!

spreadeagle
01-01-2012, 10:02 PM
Wheres that Cousins-Evans user? :laugh:

lmao first thing i thought

black1605
01-01-2012, 10:11 PM
Take your pick of the Bobcats minus Kemba.

Baller1
01-01-2012, 10:16 PM
Who's the bigger joke?

Demarcus Cousins or CousinsEvansDUO?

Sadds The Gr8
01-01-2012, 10:17 PM
CousinsEvansDuo is the man. Best poster in the NBA forum

BigWheel12
01-01-2012, 10:17 PM
I am a philosophical optimist. If you had even a slight fraction of realization you would realize I did not mean that literally. Obviously it matters for shots to go in, that is self evident. But it means a lot when a shot is extremely close to going in, and all of cousins shots when he was in the post were practically going in. When that happens you cant take that game that the player had seriously because it was just an offgame. An unlucky game. And likewise sometimes players who are under-skilled offensively get wide open, uncontested threes that also rim out, (because that is what was happening, most of harrelsons 3s spun around as well but luckily went in)but somehow come in. Sometimes a game plays on chance and by luck and you can't take that seriously.

How can you even say that he is going through an "unlucky" phase? The kid shot 43% last year, as a center. His TS% last year was a pitiful .48 and his eFG was .43 (.41 and .32 this year). His Ortg was 94 with a usage rate of 27.2 last year and is 92 and 29.9 this year. Like what is he thinking! He's a glorified ball stopper, who only scores a decent average because he takes 15 shots a game. Those numbers are poor for a backup PG. He is a 7 foot center who weighs 270 pounds and he cant score. But somehow he has a better post game than Dwight, who averages 20 points every year. I agree I think Demarcus has obvious potential, but he will NEVER tap it with his immature attitude. I hope he gets traded to Toronto and wastes his career winning 30 games, that's what he deserves. And the Kings deserve to get nothing in return because that is what he's worth.

BKLYNpigeon
01-01-2012, 10:17 PM
The only coach that can keep Cousins in check is a Parol Officer.

BKLYNpigeon
01-01-2012, 10:18 PM
Who's the bigger joke?

Demarcus Cousins or CousinsEvansDUO?


CousinsEvansDUO

C_Mund
01-01-2012, 10:25 PM
How can you even say that he is going through an "unlucky" phase? The kid shot 43% last year, as a center. His TS% last year was a pitiful .48 and his eFG was .43 (.41 and .32 this year). His Ortg was 94 with a usage rate of 27.2 last year and is 92 and 29.9 this year. Like what is he thinking! He's a glorified ball stopper, who only scores a decent average because he takes 15 shots a game. Those numbers are poor for a backup PG. He is a 7 foot center who weighs 270 pounds and he cant score. But somehow he has a better post game than Dwight, who averages 20 points every year. I agree I think Demarcus has obvious potential, but he will NEVER tap it with his immature attitude. I hope he gets traded to Toronto and wastes his career winning 30 games, that's what he deserves. And the Kings deserve to get nothing in return because that is what he's worth.

Whoa, whoa....what did Toronto do to deserve that

spreadeagle
01-01-2012, 10:29 PM
Cousins IS better than howard if you think about TOTAL VALUE, and LONGTERM VALUE of a player.

For example, Steve Nash has ZERO value long term, yet he has some value short term. Cousins has great value right now, at 21 years of age, and he will have great value for another 10-15 years. In that sense Cousins is indeed better than howard.

Dude its scary because i think you might actually believe this...you are for sure the ultimate psd homer without question haha 10-15 yrs??? where is your proof of this....the guy will prob run out of chances in a yr or two and be playing over in uzbeckystan somewhere never to be heard from again

Kinglorious
01-01-2012, 10:32 PM
Uh, ya ya? The Kings are an up and coming team. Where does a young dude like that want to go? To Washington with Wall? Maybe...

Kinglorious
01-01-2012, 10:34 PM
How can you even say that he is going through an "unlucky" phase? The kid shot 43% last year, as a center. His TS% last year was a pitiful .48 and his eFG was .43 (.41 and .32 this year). His Ortg was 94 with a usage rate of 27.2 last year and is 92 and 29.9 this year. Like what is he thinking! He's a glorified ball stopper, who only scores a decent average because he takes 15 shots a game. Those numbers are poor for a backup PG. He is a 7 foot center who weighs 270 pounds and he cant score. But somehow he has a better post game than Dwight, who averages 20 points every year. I agree I think Demarcus has obvious potential, but he will NEVER tap it with his immature attitude. I hope he gets traded to Toronto and wastes his career winning 30 games, that's what he deserves. And the Kings deserve to get nothing in return because that is what he's worth.

Excuse me?