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Alayla
12-29-2011, 10:46 AM
i dont remember where ive seen this posted but its well written and the same point ive been making on every AI related thread

AI would be a great piece for a lot of contenders. But he is on Sterns **** list. .Read between the lines. AI is not ever even mentioned by any NBA analyst, writer, coach etc. That is no possible unless they have been told to do so. Iverson is a Hall of Famer. They try to portray him as old and washed up, but there are players older producing less and are still very much a part of there teams. Iverson produced more in Detroit and the second Philly stint than Grant Hill has in his past 3 seasons yet he is valued and Iverson is washed up. They are scared to bring him up because they all know what that will bring. The refs would be bent on fixing all there games. Stern does not want AI around because it brings to much attention to all his BS.

He has enough trouble fixing the games to try to get LBJ a ring, adding Iverson would mean he would have to also fix the games so AI has no chance of winning. That is to much cover up.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmKnliObpys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NglGAoJCmmY

Think about it. Detroit sat Iverson (4 time scoring champ, former MVP, perennial All Star, Lead his team to multiple playoff runs) on the bench for a player who had never proved himself. Low and behold Rodney Stuckeys last good game was when he played with Iverson, now the team is trying to get rid of him because they realize he sucks. This is the NBA they have scouts and specialist and they didn't realize that that behind his head jumpshot was never going to amount then more than 38% from the field. They did not notice that his only strength was driving to the basket and you can't when if that is all your point guard does. They did not notice that he doesn't pass the ball well, that he is not a better than average ball handler, or did they just use him to get rid of AI so they could use his $21 mil to lure LBJ. Yet everyone still points the finger at AI. Did they even think to start AI and RIP??? No because they never wanted Iverson to WIN! Now T Mac comes in and does not even half as good as Iverson does in Detroit and he is portayed as a hero???????? Stuckey has been playing stinky for two seasons and fighting with his coaches but they would not dare mention it, because he was good enough to chase off a legend.

Point two Iverson was told no matter what he does he could never start in Memphis. So he plays three games comes off the bench and does stuff like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLOHDUSu7ws

Then low and behold Conley, who got the nod over a legend plays so well that OJ tells the coach he wants to play point so they can win, so he gets benched. Gets to the WCF and Conley goes 14 for 47, turns the ball over like crazy, his man scores on him at will, and he is the obvious weak link in the chain, they eventually have to find room to use Mayo and at the end of the game they say Conley ran the point guard position to perfection???? If that is perfection then Sam Bowe was the best draft pick EVER!

Just for the record Mike Conley playoff stat line
15pts 38% FG 29% 3PT 3.8 RPG 6.4 AST 2.31 TO

Impressive isn't it!!!!!!!!!!! Perfection right!!!!!!!!!!!
on a side note
allen iverson's attitude more then is play is why hes not on a team
but hes trying to turn his life around at least bring the mans name up or somthing
look at all the respect Tmac is getting lately for being less then relivent
And jerry stackhouse is still in the nba. i mean come on

Rentzias
12-29-2011, 10:51 AM
No, that wasn't well written.
And it tells you something when your evidence against Mike Conley is a stat line, but your evidence for AI are Youtube clips.

I'm a HUGE AI fan, but I would hate for him to even further tarnish his already rusting legacy. I'm starting to be able to repress the Turkey episode from my mind.

Dude is 36, but the way he threw his body around, I'll guarantee you he feels 50. That commercial where they show all his injuries (you can Youtube it I guess) should be enough evidence of why he needs to stay retired.

sixers247
12-29-2011, 10:52 AM
AI is done get over it. And this is coming from a huge sixer and AI fan. His game was speed and he has none left.

ManRam
12-29-2011, 10:56 AM
Wow. This is my new favorite Stern-related conspiracy.

No one talks about him because he's washed up. His body took a beating during his career. He was awful during his last stints in the NBA. He's 36 years old, can't stay healthy, he's a malcontent who whined and whined during his last years in the NBA. Memphis did the right thing starting Conley over AI. Conley was/is their future, AI was not. They needed Conley to grow, because they obviously weren't going to contend that year.

It sounds like his life is a mess too. He'd just give teams more headaches than anything else. Contenders don't need him, and non-contenders are better off letting their young guys play. Stern isn't keeping himself out of the league, he himself is.

Mishmin
12-29-2011, 11:00 AM
No. Simply, and firmly.

Alayla
12-29-2011, 11:01 AM
by no means should he start at this point thats true
but he should still be playing there are far wrose active players in the league

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-29-2011, 11:02 AM
dude AI is done, he can help noone

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-29-2011, 11:03 AM
by no means should he start at this point thats true
but he should still be playing there are far wrose active players in the league

agreed...but those players accept their role...unlike AI who still wants to be the man

Alayla
12-29-2011, 11:06 AM
thats also untrue he has stated he will play any role for any team
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/07/allen-iverson-willing-to-play-any-role-on-an-nba-team/
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-spears_allen_iverson_102611

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-29-2011, 11:07 AM
i dont remember where ive seen this posted but its well written and the same point ive been making on every AI related thread

AI would be a great piece for a lot of contenders. But he is on Sterns **** list. .Read between the lines. AI is not ever even mentioned by any NBA analyst, writer, coach etc. That is no possible unless they have been told to do so. Iverson is a Hall of Famer. They try to portray him as old and washed up, but there are players older producing less and are still very much a part of there teams. Iverson produced more in Detroit and the second Philly stint than Grant Hill has in his past 3 seasons yet he is valued and Iverson is washed up. They are scared to bring him up because they all know what that will bring. The refs would be bent on fixing all there games. Stern does not want AI around because it brings to much attention to all his BS.

He has enough trouble fixing the games to try to get LBJ a ring, adding Iverson would mean he would have to also fix the games so AI has no chance of winning. That is to much cover up.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmKnliObpys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NglGAoJCmmY

Think about it. Detroit sat Iverson (4 time scoring champ, former MVP, perennial All Star, Lead his team to multiple playoff runs) on the bench for a player who had never proved himself. Low and behold Rodney Stuckeys last good game was when he played with Iverson, now the team is trying to get rid of him because they realize he sucks. This is the NBA they have scouts and specialist and they didn't realize that that behind his head jumpshot was never going to amount then more than 38% from the field. They did not notice that his only strength was driving to the basket and you can't when if that is all your point guard does. They did not notice that he doesn't pass the ball well, that he is not a better than average ball handler, or did they just use him to get rid of AI so they could use his $21 mil to lure LBJ. Yet everyone still points the finger at AI. Did they even think to start AI and RIP??? No because they never wanted Iverson to WIN! Now T Mac comes in and does not even half as good as Iverson does in Detroit and he is portayed as a hero???????? Stuckey has been playing stinky for two seasons and fighting with his coaches but they would not dare mention it, because he was good enough to chase off a legend.

Point two Iverson was told no matter what he does he could never start in Memphis. So he plays three games comes off the bench and does stuff like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLOHDUSu7ws

Then low and behold Conley, who got the nod over a legend plays so well that OJ tells the coach he wants to play point so they can win, so he gets benched. Gets to the WCF and Conley goes 14 for 47, turns the ball over like crazy, his man scores on him at will, and he is the obvious weak link in the chain, they eventually have to find room to use Mayo and at the end of the game they say Conley ran the point guard position to perfection???? If that is perfection then Sam Bowe was the best draft pick EVER!

Just for the record Mike Conley playoff stat line
15pts 38% FG 29% 3PT 3.8 RPG 6.4 AST 2.31 TO

Impressive isn't it!!!!!!!!!!! Perfection right!!!!!!!!!!!
on a side note
allen iverson's attitude more then is play is why hes not on a team
but hes trying to turn his life around at least bring the mans name up or somthing
look at all the respect Tmac is getting lately for being less then relivent
And jerry stackhouse is still in the nba. i mean come on

and btw I stopped the reading at the bolded part:facepalm:

Alayla
12-29-2011, 11:09 AM
okay the bolded is admittedly slanted but as human beings we tend to overstate things when we are trying to make a point
like when people say AI is trash hes the Worst human being ever
OR this isn't 2001

ManRam
12-29-2011, 11:14 AM
AI isn't the worst human being ever...he's just a bench player who doesn't ever want to be that. There is no reason a contending team needs him...and there's even less of a reason why non-contending teams need him too. He's not good enough to play on the Heat, the Knicks, the Thunder, the Mavs etc...and there's no reason for any non-contending team to sign him to steal minutes from their youthful players.

He'd be the 12th oldest player in the league...he's just not gonna help any team out enough to make it worth it.

Rentzias
12-29-2011, 11:22 AM
but hes trying to turn his life around at least bring the mans name up or somthing
look at all the respect Tmac is getting lately for being less then relivent
And jerry stackhouse is still in the nba. i mean come on
Damn, Stackhouse is in the NBA still? :rolleyes:

What is the point of it all, to get AI some attention in this next generation of ballers? To get him a ring so he can ??? his already HoF legacy? I'm lost.

Why does AI need to be a story? Just put him away and hope he doesn't do any more crazy **** until he's inducted.

ttam68
12-29-2011, 11:23 AM
When will this site add an IQ test? You could allow 1 post per month per IQ point. That way, this guy could only respond to his own awful thread once.

Mr_Amaziing
12-29-2011, 11:27 AM
I would Love for Iverson to come back

HiphopRelated
12-29-2011, 11:47 AM
nobody in the NBA is thinking about AI anymore than they are about bringing back Steve Francis

PhillyFaninLA
12-29-2011, 11:55 AM
I'm a huge Iverson fan and would love to see him come back and get a ring. I think ability wise he could be a great bench player now but he has proven he is not willing to be that guy and if he's not he doesn't have value to a team. I'd love to see him as a bench player being used for an OKC or Miami the same way we (76ers) use Lou Williams.

brodawgs
12-29-2011, 11:58 AM
Not sure if 10 or actually an idiot.

Gators123
12-29-2011, 12:02 PM
AI is done.

Iodine
12-29-2011, 12:04 PM
Everyone, this is a prime example as to why the American schooling system has failed many

Iodine
12-29-2011, 12:04 PM
Not sure if 10 or actually an idiot.

10 year olds remember that AI sucked

AIMelo=KillaDUO
12-29-2011, 12:08 PM
Nooooo! Why did you hafta make a thread about Iverson?

Swashcuff and that one guy who likes the Sixers I'll let y'all handle this one. I don't have the energy.

Gators123
12-29-2011, 12:08 PM
10 year olds remember that AI sucked

AI fanboys are the worst. They still think AI is an All-Star caliber player that can still score 20+ points a game.

Rentzias
12-29-2011, 12:11 PM
AI fanboys are the worst. They still think AI is an All-Star caliber player that can still score 20+ points a game.
15 to 20-year-old AI fanboys maybe. The rest of us know. Also, the rest of us are old enough to physically know what shape he must be in by now.

Iodine
12-29-2011, 12:15 PM
AI fanboys are the worst. They still think AI is an All-Star caliber player that can still score 20+ points a game.

Oh yeah I know
At least they give fans of all teams a group to unite against

Pierzynski4Prez
12-29-2011, 12:20 PM
Wow. This is my new favorite Stern-related conspiracy.

No one talks about him because he's washed up. His body took a beating during his career. He was awful during his last stints in the NBA. He's 36 years old, can't stay healthy, he's a malcontent who whined and whined during his last years in the NBA. Memphis did the right thing starting Conley over AI. Conley was/is their future, AI was not. They needed Conley to grow, because they obviously weren't going to contend that year.

It sounds like his life is a mess too. He'd just give teams more headaches than anything else. Contenders don't need him, and non-contenders are better off letting their young guys play. Stern isn't keeping himself out of the league, he himself is.

Perfectly said.

Iron24th
12-29-2011, 12:21 PM
Iverson is a cancer and yes he's done.

ivylleague1'
12-29-2011, 12:52 PM
all we are saying, give allen iverson a chance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nba sucks with[[b]/b]out iverson !!!!!!!!!!!

SportsAndrew25
12-29-2011, 12:52 PM
ManRam stole my thunder. The guy is a huge headcase. I do not want him on my team. In addition to that, he is ancient and he is worn out.

Iodine
12-29-2011, 12:55 PM
all we are saying, give allen iverson a chance !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nba sucks with[[b]/b]out iverson !!!!!!!!!!!

Your name is ivy league......... yet not smarter than 5th grader.......

llemon
12-29-2011, 12:57 PM
okay the bolded is admittedly slanted but as human beings we tend to overstate things when we are trying to make a point
like when people say AI is trash hes the Worst human being ever
OR this isn't 2001

Are you saying this ISN'T 2001?

Iodine
12-29-2011, 12:59 PM
Are you saying this ISN'T 2001?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnk7s2xixH1qm7c8ho1_400.gif

ivylleague1'
12-29-2011, 01:04 PM
Somethng is wrong with the nba. Iverson is the best player in the nba if allowed to participate. I want to pay to watch him display his incredible skills and abilities. The man got game, he is the pele and garrincha of the basketball world.

tbone2171
12-29-2011, 01:08 PM
I think Tim Tebow should have made the Pro Bowl

ivylleague1'
12-29-2011, 01:21 PM
I think Tim Tebow should have made the Pro Bowl


Did he not ?

Hustlenomics
12-29-2011, 01:26 PM
Ai is done but larry hughes, tmac, bonzi wells,stackhouse, scalabrine, and kwame brown aren't??

C-Dub
12-29-2011, 01:27 PM
Im just gonna say nothing cuz im pretty sure my sig says it all... btw, i agree with ya thevcballer. everyone portrays him as washed up but yea whatever.. ppl will say what they wanna

sep11ie
12-29-2011, 01:30 PM
Love that chicken at Popeyes.

ink
12-29-2011, 01:31 PM
If AI wasn't done he'd be playing in the league. There doesn't need to be any conspiracy to keep him out.

ivylleague1'
12-29-2011, 01:39 PM
Iverson asked for a training camp invitation, did he get it ?

allknowing
12-29-2011, 01:40 PM
There is no doubt that Iverson still has the physical ability and speed to play. That is not the problem here. The issue with him is a mental one. I mean I remember back in Detroit when Dumars told him he was gonna play Iverson off the bench, Ivy then said he agreed. But soon came the sources that AI was not happy. Then Ivy signed in Memphis, and said again he'll do whatever is asked of him, and then when he started as a role player, and complained, and was released. Now the thread starter can post link after link where Ivy SAYS he's okay with coming off the bench. But I can post links where he has said that before.


Like I said, don't think Ivy is not getting calls because of his physical traits are gone...No. He's not getting calls cause NO NBA GM needs the Headaches that accompany him.

Bos_Sports4Life
12-29-2011, 01:40 PM
If iverson had accepted a bench role in the past he'd prob be in the nba right now...But he didn't. A 36 yr old iverson simply isn't worth the trouble.

Rentzias
12-29-2011, 01:43 PM
Im just gonna say nothing cuz im pretty sure my sig says it all... btw, i agree with ya thevcballer. everyone portrays him as washed up but yea whatever.. ppl will say what they wanna
Guy hasn't been a 20 ppg scorer or played in more than 57 games since 2007, played six games in Turkey where he averaged 14 ppg then suffered an injury that kept him out for two months.

I agree with you that by his play in these past few years, he has portrayed himself as washed up.

smith&wesson
12-29-2011, 01:44 PM
If iverson would accept a role he could help teams

RipCity32
12-29-2011, 02:03 PM
Iverson is not the player people think he is anymore,it's over move on!!

Sadds The Gr8
12-29-2011, 02:06 PM
When you see guys like Larry Hughes still on rosters then you know it's not about his talent, it's about his ego. Iverson is still better than alot of the players in the league but his personality ****s teams over and he's a cancer. Coaches don't wanna deal with his BS

ManRam
12-29-2011, 02:10 PM
When you see guys like Larry Hughes still on rosters then you know it's not about his talent, it's about his ego. Iverson is still better than alot of the players in the league but his personality ****s teams over and he's a cancer. Coaches don't wanna deal with his BS

Don't you dare hate on Larry Hughes!!!

Larry Hughes makes Chris Duhon look like what Larry Hughes should look like!


AI took a beating. I don't know if he could give 10 solid minutes a game, but I probably wouldn't take the risk. I'm happier, honestly, with scrubs like Duhon and Hughes than I would be with AI.

TheRooki3
12-29-2011, 02:11 PM
For the love of God AI please show us you CAN still contribute.......too good for the d-league? Too good for overseas? And too good to take a bench role....Mr. Iverson please show that you actually want to play in the NBA period....no reports of him getting in shape, no reports of him expressing his desire for an NBA comeback.....

ZHawk1123
12-29-2011, 02:25 PM
He could put the Bobcats over the top

Oski H
12-29-2011, 02:26 PM
agreed...but those players accept their role...unlike AI who still wants to be the man


THIS :clap:

Sadds The Gr8
12-29-2011, 02:29 PM
Don't you dare hate on Larry Hughes!!!

Larry Hughes makes Chris Duhon look like what Larry Hughes should look like!


AI took a beating. I don't know if he could give 10 solid minutes a game, but I probably wouldn't take the risk. I'm happier, honestly, with scrubs like Duhon and Hughes than I would be with AI.
lol

If i was a team desperate for scoring like Chicago or LAL or something I'd give him a shot.

Iodine
12-29-2011, 02:30 PM
Manram you mean playing over 37.5K minutes of his playstyle he wore down?

ZOMG

mttwlsn16
12-29-2011, 02:37 PM
I would Love for Iverson to come back

:nod: i miss him

Cal827
12-29-2011, 02:42 PM
Well it dun really matter, he could return with Miami, average 1 point per game, and be voted back into the all-star game... just like a few years ago :D

97NYer
12-29-2011, 03:00 PM
AI isn't the worst human being ever...he's just a bench player who doesn't ever want to be that. There is no reason a contending team needs him...and there's even less of a reason why non-contending teams need him too. He's not good enough to play on the Heat, the Knicks, the Thunder, the Mavs etc...and there's no reason for any non-contending team to sign him to steal minutes from their youthful players.

He'd be the 12th oldest player in the league...he's just not gonna help any team out enough to make it worth it.

AI is a hell of a lot better offensively than all of our guards and at least he would put effort into defense because he has something to prove. Saying AI isn't good enough to play for the Knicks is insane when we have the softest front line in the league (Melo and Amar'e play no defense and I have not seen Chandler box out one time) On top of that we have Mike Bibby, Jared Jeffries, Josh Harrelson, and Ronaldo Balkman on our team. Iverson is arguably better than a few others too. And as far as a young team, how about a young team who doesn't have a good young PG or SG. Don't you think playing behind AI for a year or two would help development?

Alayla
12-30-2011, 11:09 AM
AI is a hell of a lot better offensively than all of our guards and at least he would put effort into defense because he has something to prove. Saying AI isn't good enough to play for the Knicks is insane when we have the softest front line in the league (Melo and Amar'e play no defense and I have not seen Chandler box out one time) On top of that we have Mike Bibby, Jared Jeffries, Josh Harrelson, and Ronaldo Balkman on our team. Iverson is arguably better than a few others too. And as far as a young team, how about a young team who doesn't have a good young PG or SG. Don't you think playing behind AI for a year or two would help development?

just rest with it man these morons are convinced that becuase Allen no longer puts up 20 a game wicth honestly he will but put about half that now in a bench role that he cant play with the bibbys the stackhouses and the Tmacs out there still on nba rosters its a shame to see AI not on an nba roster i wouldnt call him a game changer but he should still be able to play

Hawkeye15
12-30-2011, 11:11 AM
generally 5'11", 165 lb guards who can't shoot and don't care about practice don't age well.

He is done. Move on.

Alayla
12-30-2011, 11:14 AM
For the love of God AI please show us you CAN still contribute.......too good for the d-league? Too good for overseas? And too good to take a bench role....Mr. Iverson please show that you actually want to play in the NBA period....no reports of him getting in shape, no reports of him expressing his desire for an NBA comeback.....

LOL there are reports about him wanting to be back in the nba all over the net hell i posted one of them in this very thread even sports nation brought it up asking who has a better chance to still play in the sport AI or TO have you been living under a rock or is this a troll?
during the lockout the people i heard most about working out to stay in shape where AI and dexter pipmin or however thats spelled
the man may be a headcase BUT DON'T EVER QUESTION HIS HEART OR HIS WORK ETHIC. throughout his career both have been top class he may not be a huge factor on the court anymore but to say he hasn't been trying for a comeback makes you look ignorant

Alayla
12-30-2011, 11:18 AM
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Somethng is wrong with the nba. Iverson is the best player in the nba if allowed to participate. I want to pay to watch him display his incredible skills and abilities. The man got game, he is the pele and garrincha of the basketball world.
bone headed replys like this detract from the point we are trying to make
by no means is he the best player in the nba anymore that ship sailed a long time ago some aruge that he never was the best player at any given time and id even hear that out

Alayla
12-30-2011, 11:19 AM
Ai is done but larry hughes, tmac, bonzi wells,stackhouse, scalabrine, and kwame brown aren't??

LOL that man is on my willie green list *WHY ARE YOU IN THE NBA IN THE FRIST PLACE*

Alayla
12-30-2011, 11:23 AM
10 year olds remember that AI sucked

are we talking about the same allen iverson here by no means does a future HOFer suck his last few years in the nba haven't been good nor will he ever be a GOOD player agien but to insult my intelligence becuase i belive he can still play a role for an nba team. tells me your insecure

Alayla
12-30-2011, 11:24 AM
AI fanboys are the worst. They still think AI is an All-Star caliber player that can still score 20+ points a game.

i think nothing of the sort

Mr_Amaziing
12-30-2011, 11:24 AM
Haters

Alayla
12-30-2011, 11:27 AM
]When will this site add an IQ test? You could allow 1 post per month per IQ point. That way, this guy could only respond to his own awful thread once.
rofl! my IQ is 138 for your information
and ive seen you in the sixers form many a time and your not the brightest crayon in the box yourself. your allmost as bad as a certain rickypiror

X12Celtics3
12-30-2011, 11:52 AM
Ai is done but larry hughes, tmac, bonzi wells,stackhouse, scalabrine, and kwame brown aren't??

Allen Iverson: 36 years old, has been out of the NBA for a few years, hasn't played GOOD basketball in the NBA for several years. Has ego problems, and is such a cancerous personality that every team he has been to since his original stint with Philly has been desperate to get rid of him. Has generally refused to accept any role other than starter on any team that he has played on, but is no longer actually physically capable of being the player that he thinks that he is.

Larry Hughes: 32 years old, four years younger than Iverson. Not a great player, but he goes to teams and performs his role off the bench without causing issues.

Tracy McGrady: 32 years old, again four years younger than Iverson. Again, I never hear about him being a locker room problem... he signs with teams and plays basketball, performing his role and never complaining that he isn't the starter or the star.

Bonzi Wells: 35, but he doesn't even count as he isn't in the NBA. He was signed by the lowly Timberwolves this off-season and didn't even make the team.

Jerry Stackhouse: 37 years old, clearly past his prime, and yet the fact that he is still in the league would seem to imply that he is a solid veteran presence. He barely sees the court (7 games played last season, 1 this year) and doesn't really seem to make much of a statistical impact. Again, I never hear stories about Stackhouse demanding trades because of his lack of playing time... he knows what his role is and serves his purpose.

Brian Scalabrine: ...yeah. Scalabrine has always seemed like a great teammate, which is probably why he keeps finding jobs in the NBA. He barely even touches the court, but provides support for his teammates and tries his hardest when he does see the court. He is also three years younger than Iverson and obviously much less worn down.

Kwame Brown: 29 years old, SEVEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN IVERSON. That is not an age where any player is washed up, that's a player in his prime. Brown has never been the superstar that he was supposed to be, but he is a pretty good role player. I'd gladly take an 8 points and 7 rebounds guy on the Celtics, especially one with his size.

I'd gladly take any of these guys (except maybe Wells, I don't know anything about what kind of player he is these days) over Iverson.

Rentzias
12-30-2011, 12:01 PM
rofl! my IQ is 138 for your information.
and ive seen you in the sixers form many a time, and your not the brightest crayon in the box yourself. your allmost as bad as a certain rickypiror
Superior intelligence!
Is this you? http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2011/12/28/meet-a-man-who-owns-more-than-100-pairs-of-allen-iverson-sneakers/

Not only the injury and attitude concerns, AI would be a pretty big liability defensively, and I doubt the dude is in basketball shape as well.

C'mon, you don't want your favorite player to be remembered in the light you're asking him to be placed under.

Corey
12-30-2011, 12:01 PM
And it tells you something when your evidence against Mike Conley is a stat line, but your evidence for AI are Youtube clips.


LOL.

AI is over the hill. Just let him ride off into the sunset.

Corey
12-30-2011, 12:04 PM
rofl! my IQ is 138 for your information
and ive seen you in the sixers form many a time and your not the brightest crayon in the box yourself. your allmost as bad as a certain rickypiror

:facepalm:

Jint.
12-30-2011, 12:17 PM
Globetrotters..?

Alayla
12-30-2011, 12:27 PM
Superior intelligence!
Is this you? http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2011/12/28/meet-a-man-who-owns-more-than-100-pairs-of-allen-iverson-sneakers/

Not only the injury and attitude concerns, AI would be a pretty big liability defensively, and I doubt the dude is in basketball shape as well.

C'mon, you don't want your favorite player to be remembered in the light you're asking him to be placed under.

to a degree i understand your point. but its more then just homier-ism for Iverson
im passionate about basketball and if you see ANYONE giving there heart and soul on the court and then suddenly being unable to play be it because of there adduitde injury or anything outside of there actual on court ability.

Alayla
12-30-2011, 12:32 PM
Superior intelligence!
Is this you? http://live.drjays.com/index.php/2011/12/28/meet-a-man-who-owns-more-than-100-pairs-of-allen-iverson-sneakers/

Not only the injury and attitude concerns, AI would be a pretty big liability defensively, and I doubt the dude is in basketball shape as well.

C'mon, you don't want your favorite player to be remembered in the light you're asking him to be placed under.

Becuase Steve Nash Andra Barngainii Lou Williams and even Carmelo are all AWESOME defensive players right?
i mean defensively liability's are pretty much someone somewhere on every team
and even more so coming of the bench for a quick scoring punch

Rentzias
12-30-2011, 12:35 PM
to a degree i understand your point. but its more then just homier-ism for Iverson
im passionate about basketball and if you see ANYONE giving there heart and soul on the court and then suddenly being unable to play be it because of there adduitde injury or anything outside of there actual on court ability.
Isn't it more painful to watch that same person struggle because of what you just outlined?

At some point, what the brain says you can do disconnects from what your body is able to do, and I think that's where AI is right now. I remember the first day I realized I had lost my step and what a bewildering experience that was, and what a ****** game I played. Last thing I want to see is AI on the court unable to get past Earl Watson and being destroyed by Mike Conley.

ChaseHamels
12-30-2011, 12:35 PM
Coming from a born and bred Philadelphian - PLEASE LET THIS GO.

I had his jersey and kicks. **** I lived four streets away from him. But he's DONE. Move on, life is waiting for you...

Corey
12-30-2011, 12:36 PM
Becuase Steve Nash Andra Barngainii Lou Williams and even Carmelo are all AWESOME defensive players right?

They actually have other aspects of their game that cover up their defensive flaws, so...?

rhymeratic
12-30-2011, 12:48 PM
Iverson is finished x10.
He's not coming back.
Marbury is not coming back.
Terrell Brandon is not coming back.
Mark Price is not coming back.
John Stockton is not coming back.
Rod Strickland is not coming back.
Kenny "THE REAL JET" Smith is not coming back.
Derek Harper is not coming back.


I think I can stop there... you get the idea. He's done.

NetsPaint
12-30-2011, 01:42 PM
I agree, OP.

The Knicks would be better if Iverson was their STARTER even. The backcourt looks terrible without Davis.

Jint.
12-30-2011, 02:10 PM
Iverson is finished x10.
He's not coming back.
Marbury is not coming back.
Terrell Brandon is not coming back.
Mark Price is not coming back.
John Stockton is not coming back.
Rod Strickland is not coming back.
Kenny "THE REAL JET" Smith is not coming back.
Derek Harper is not coming back.


I think I can stop there... you get the idea. He's done.

hes not..? :D

Hustlenomics
12-30-2011, 02:19 PM
Allen Iverson: 36 years old, has been out of the NBA for a few years, hasn't played GOOD basketball in the NBA for several years. Has ego problems, and is such a cancerous personality that every team he has been to since his original stint with Philly has been desperate to get rid of him. Has generally refused to accept any role other than starter on any team that he has played on, but is no longer actually physically capable of being the player that he thinks that he is.

Larry Hughes: 32 years old, four years younger than Iverson. Not a great player, but he goes to teams and performs his role off the bench without causing issues.

Tracy McGrady: 32 years old, again four years younger than Iverson. Again, I never hear about him being a locker room problem... he signs with teams and plays basketball, performing his role and never complaining that he isn't the starter or the star.

Bonzi Wells: 35, but he doesn't even count as he isn't in the NBA. He was signed by the lowly Timberwolves this off-season and didn't even make the team.

Jerry Stackhouse: 37 years old, clearly past his prime, and yet the fact that he is still in the league would seem to imply that he is a solid veteran presence. He barely sees the court (7 games played last season, 1 this year) and doesn't really seem to make much of a statistical impact. Again, I never hear stories about Stackhouse demanding trades because of his lack of playing time... he knows what his role is and serves his purpose.

Brian Scalabrine: ...yeah. Scalabrine has always seemed like a great teammate, which is probably why he keeps finding jobs in the NBA. He barely even touches the court, but provides support for his teammates and tries his hardest when he does see the court. He is also three years younger than Iverson and obviously much less worn down.

Kwame Brown: 29 years old, SEVEN YEARS YOUNGER THAN IVERSON. That is not an age where any player is washed up, that's a player in his prime. Brown has never been the superstar that he was supposed to be, but he is a pretty good role player. I'd gladly take an 8 points and 7 rebounds guy on the Celtics, especially one with his size.

I'd gladly take any of these guys (except maybe Wells, I don't know anything about what kind of player he is these days) over Iverson.

lol @ the bias. all those players are garbage except t-mac

X12Celtics3
12-30-2011, 02:30 PM
lol @ the bias. all those players are garbage except t-mac

You want to talk about bias? In the Celtics forum several posters made great points about why nobody wants Iverson, and all you could ever reply with was a lame insult or a remark about how somehow you know more about his "incidents" than the media. The fact that you have made such blatant attempts at ignoring every logical post makes me think that you are just as delusional about what he can still offer as he is.

Hustlenomics
12-30-2011, 02:32 PM
when i mentioned his play nobody made a logical post to towards me. And yes the media has wanted him out the league since 97' of course they're going to blow everything he does out of proportion

X12Celtics3
12-30-2011, 02:35 PM
when i mentioned his play nobody made a logical post to towards me. And yes the media has wanted him out the league since 97' of course they're going to blow everything he does out of proportion

Mentioned WHAT about his play? That he was a superstar a decade ago?

Corey
12-30-2011, 03:01 PM
when i mentioned his play nobody made a logical post to towards me. And yes the media has wanted him out the league since 97' of course they're going to blow everything he does out of proportion

That's why he won the MVP in 2000, and kept making all star teams through 2010 right?

You just cant accept that one of your favorite players is washed up now.

Tony_Starks
12-30-2011, 03:07 PM
Im thoroughly convinced Allen Iverson has blackballed for life. I'll put it like this: Jerry Stackhouse is playing in ATL, Bonzi Wells went to camp with the Wolves, and Ricky Davis and Greg Ostertag are now playing in the D-League and trying to make a nba comeback. I repeat GREG freakin OSTERTAG! I didn't even know he was still alive!

We will sooner see Kenny Smith suit up before we see AI again. What a damn shame!!

Hustlenomics
12-30-2011, 03:46 PM
That's why he won the MVP in 2000, and kept making all star teams through 2010 right?

You just cant accept that one of your favorite players is washed up now.

so now the media never had a problem with iverson? ahahaha :facepalm::facepalm:

llemon
12-30-2011, 04:13 PM
when i mentioned his play nobody made a logical post to towards me. And yes the media has wanted him out the league since 97' of course they're going to blow everything he does out of proportion

The media LOVES Iverson. They are drawn to a freak show like moths to a flame.

X12Celtics3
12-30-2011, 04:21 PM
so now the media never had a problem with iverson? ahahaha :facepalm::facepalm:

Umm... well, if the media DID have this vendetta against Iverson, he certainly wouldn't have won the MVP award in 2001, as Corey said.

Alayla
12-30-2011, 04:33 PM
Im thoroughly convinced Allen Iverson has blackballed for life. I'll put it like this: Jerry Stackhouse is playing in ATL, Bonzi Wells went to camp with the Wolves, and Ricky Davis and Greg Ostertag are now playing in the D-League and trying to make a nba comeback. I repeat GREG freakin OSTERTAG! I didn't even know he was still alive!

We will sooner see Kenny Smith suit up before we see AI again. What a damn shame!!


i feel you ive made the point 4 times
AND DAMN! FOR REAL you must be trolling XD Greg ostertag wow
no but real iverson still has more game then at least 30%
of active guards in the nba and 2 years ago id go as far as 70%
the talent is dropping scary quick but he should at least get a workout or somthing the fact hes been downright ignored is what gets me

Alayla
12-30-2011, 04:37 PM
That's why he won the MVP in 2000, and kept making all star teams through 2010 right?

You just cant accept that one of your favorite players is washed up now.

the media hasn't the smallest bit on control of that that's up to the fans.
sure he really shouldn't have made his last 2 but his rookie year he SHOULD HAVE the man finished 6th in scoring as a rookie HAHA so it almost balances out. and that MvP was un deniable. had he not won MVP that year there would have been a downright public outcry.

X12Celtics3
12-30-2011, 04:51 PM
i feel you ive made the point 4 times
AND DAMN! FOR REAL you must be trolling XD Greg ostertag wow
no but real iverson still has more game then at least 30%
of active guards in the nba and 2 years ago id go as far as 70%
the talent is dropping scary quick but he should at least get a workout or somthing the fact hes been downright ignored is what gets me

Probably because he is a cancer... he doesn't have enough talent to be the star of a team, and he has too big an ego to accept any other role. In case you don't remember, maybe you should go look up his lovely tenures in Detroit and Memphis.

Corey
12-30-2011, 05:47 PM
Touche ^

Hustlenomics
12-30-2011, 06:25 PM
he had the talent to carry Detroit and put up numbers there in philly he was playing fine and didn't hog the ball or complain once but you obviously didn't see that

VinceCarter
12-30-2011, 06:28 PM
1 year deal with the Nets couldn't hurt. :laugh:

llemon
12-30-2011, 06:32 PM
1 year deal with the Nets couldn't hurt. :laugh:

Well. it could only hurt the Nets. But I'm sure it would convince Deron to stay and for Dwight to sign with the Nets.

VinceCarter
12-30-2011, 06:57 PM
Well. it could only hurt the Nets. But I'm sure it would convince Deron to stay and for Dwight to sign with the Nets.

I don't think anything can hurt the Nets at this point :p

MrfadeawayJB
12-30-2011, 07:56 PM
The reason Iverson never started in Memphis is because he was coming off a injury and was being eased into the lineup. Allen wanted to start right off the bat and play 30+ minutes. He never gave the Grizz a chance. I mean seriously, who quits after like 3-4 games? Iverson is a cancer

X12Celtics3
12-30-2011, 09:00 PM
he had the talent to carry Detroit and put up numbers there in philly he was playing fine and didn't hog the ball or complain once but you obviously didn't see that

Sure, he had the talent for Detroit... but they wanted him to come off the bench, and Iverson would have NONE of that. Me me me me me, how DARE you try to play ME off the bench? I'd rather retire :rolleyes:

sunsfan88
12-30-2011, 09:06 PM
Celtics are the retirement home for old NBA players in the East and the Suns are the retirement home in the West.

Look for one those 2 teams to sign him if he does get signed.

Actually nevermind, we already signed our old washed up SG, Michael Redd. Boston, your turn.

VillaMaravilla
12-30-2011, 09:12 PM
its amazing that AI and Arenas our not on teams, its a darn shame

Hustlenomics
12-30-2011, 09:15 PM
Sure, he had the talent for Detroit... but they wanted him to come off the bench, and Iverson would have NONE of that. Me me me me me, how DARE you try to play ME off the bench? I'd rather retire :rolleyes:

maybe because the coach told him once he got there that he wants him and rip to carry the team then went back on his word (Rip hamilton confirmed this) and tried to put him on the bench after an all star season

X12Celtics3
12-30-2011, 09:23 PM
maybe because the coach told him once he got there that he wants him and rip to carry the team then went back on his word (Rip hamilton confirmed this) and tried to put him on the bench after an all star season

Well, if that's really what happened then I guess that sucks for Iverson. Regardless, good team players wouldn't quit on their team like that, and nobody wants a player who is going to ***** and moan when you send them to the bench, especially such an old, over-the-hill veteran who hasn't played in the league for like two years and causes headaches everywhere he goes.

Alayla
12-31-2011, 12:21 AM
Well, if that's really what happened then I guess that sucks for Iverson. Regardless, good team players wouldn't quit on their team like that, and nobody wants a player who is going to ***** and moan when you send them to the bench, especially such an old, over-the-hill veteran who hasn't played in the league for like two years and causes headaches everywhere he goes.

It did people tend to blame the players when the FO and a player have friction but the pistons FO repetitively lied to Allen forced him to the benched when he outplayed stucky and honesty everyone else on that roster Btw the team quit on allen before allen quit on them also confirmed by rip all the vets on that team where fuming because nearly all of them had been mistreated that season

RipCity32
12-31-2011, 12:35 AM
Sure, he had the talent for Detroit... but they wanted him to come off the bench, and Iverson would have NONE of that. Me me me me me, how DARE you try to play ME off the bench? I'd rather retire :rolleyes:

Exactly he quit on us at playoff time in my opinion dudes always got something wrong with him when he gets upset whether it's personal or physical problems,he's more drama than anything and doesn't deserve another shot in the NBA regardless of how great he used to be to the sport.

Alayla
12-31-2011, 11:45 AM
Exactly he quit on us at playoff time in my opinion dudes always got something wrong with him when he gets upset whether it's personal or physical problems,he's more drama than anything and doesn't deserve another shot in the NBA regardless of how great he used to be to the sport.

if the rest of my team played like slugs and my coach lied to me id be pretty pissed of too the pistons wanted Allens expiring contract not his services

Gators123
12-31-2011, 12:03 PM
AI skipping practice 3 weeks after Dumars traded for him didn't help any...

ChurcH
12-31-2011, 12:48 PM
No.

KnicksR4Real
12-31-2011, 01:05 PM
Not really

Ty Fast
12-31-2011, 02:00 PM
Damn, Stackhouse is in the NBA still? :rolleyes:

What is the point of it all, to get AI some attention in this next generation of ballers? To get him a ring so he can ??? his already HoF legacy? I'm lost.

Why does AI need to be a story? Just put him away and hope he doesn't do any more crazy **** until he's inducted.

so are juan howard and jason kidd. i would take AI on miami.

ink
12-31-2011, 02:49 PM
its amazing that AI and Arenas our not on teams, its a darn shame

Says something good about the coaching in the league IMO that they're not. Coaches want more than one dimensional players who struggle to work well with teammates.

IDunknown
01-02-2012, 01:18 AM
There is no doubt that Iverson still has the physical ability and speed to play. That is not the problem here. The issue with him is a mental one. I mean I remember back in Detroit when Dumars told him he was gonna play Iverson off the bench, Ivy then said he agreed. But soon came the sources that AI was not happy. Then Ivy signed in Memphis, and said again he'll do whatever is asked of him, and then when he started as a role player, and complained, and was released. Now the thread starter can post link after link where Ivy SAYS he's okay with coming off the bench. But I can post links where he has said that before.


Like I said, don't think Ivy is not getting calls because of his physical traits are gone...No. He's not getting calls cause NO NBA GM needs the Headaches that accompany him.

This is exactly what happened to him.You can't sign him hoping to use him off the bench.He blacklisted himself.