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MackShock
12-21-2011, 12:48 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/philladelfigga/NBA/Warriors.gif Vs. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v299/philladelfigga/NBA/Clippers.gif


Tuesday, December 25th, 2011
7:30PM Pacific Time


Oracle Arena
The BAY, Califas

http://ambasketball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/oracle.jpg


PROJECTED LINEUPS:


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-CURRY-------ELLIS------WRIGHT-------LEE-------BIEDRINS

V.S.

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PAUL------BILLUPS-----BUTLER-----GRIFFIN-----JORDAN

KEY MATCHUP

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/gallery_images/photos/000/782/919/GYI0063846107_crop_450x500.jpg?1299546944

Backup Plan Vs. Backup-Backup Plan


Thread goal: 700 posts

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:11 AM
Merry christmas to everybody, enjoy the game.

lol, please
12-21-2011, 02:13 AM
W's win by 35 points.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:16 AM
W's win by 35 points.

Never that

COOLbeans
12-21-2011, 02:19 AM
I wanna see somebody other than Andris birddoodoo Biedrins starting. that is all.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:20 AM
Biedrins is the key to this game in my opinion. If Curry doesn't play, it's going to be a long game.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:20 AM
By the way, we better get over 1,000 post for this game.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:22 AM
curry will start...hes a competitor..but its the same ankle i think. he just tweaked it..hopefully he can recover by sunday..might be a week maybe two :(

COOLbeans
12-21-2011, 02:22 AM
Man i hope that guy Andris plays well finally.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:23 AM
By the way, we better get over 1,000 post for this game.

i set the goal at 400...we cant get 1000 unless we overhype it like crazy and post whore

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:24 AM
i upped it to 700. game on.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:24 AM
curry will start...hes a competitor..but its the same ankle i think. he just tweaked it..hopefully he can recover by sunday..might be a week maybe two :(

I don't know, he looked like he was in allot of pain. And to make a bad situation worse it's the same ankle. I don't want him to rush back, and injure it worse.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:25 AM
i upped it to 700. game on.

We got five days to get 700 post. That's 140 post a day.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:26 AM
Jenkins starting opening night?? And Ish Smith backup

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:26 AM
We got five days to get 700 post. That's 140 post a day.

easier than 1000 :D

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:28 AM
Man i hope that guy Andris plays well finally.

He looked really good tonight.

18 minutes - 2 points, 2 steals, 5 rebounds, & 4 blocks. He needs to up his points though.

iFYouSeekAmy
12-21-2011, 02:28 AM
Asking a rookie to guard Chris Paul on opening night seems a bit too much..

MackShock
12-21-2011, 02:31 AM
Asking a rookie to guard Chris Paul on opening night seems a bit too much..

So either Curry plays not 100% healthy or start Monta at PG and start Rush at SG

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:32 AM
Asking a rookie to guard Chris Paul on opening night seems a bit too much..

I think if Curry is out Ellis will play point. He looked like he was trying to get teammates involved tonight. And like you said asking Jenkins to guard Paul on opening night is a little to much pressure.

Ellis--Jenkins
Thompson--Rush
Wright--McGuire
Lee--Udoh
Biedrins--Brown

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:33 AM
So either Curry plays not 100% healthy or start Monta at PG and start Rush at SG

That's what I would do. If you play him not 100%, it's going to be the same scene as last season. He is going to have to miss even more time, if he injures it again.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:40 AM
My prediction's for the game.

Stephen Curry - 18 points, 7 assist, 3 rebounds, & 2 steals

Monta Ellis - 30 points, 4 assist, 6 rebounds, & 3 steals

Dorrel Wright - 15 points, 3 assist, 5 rebounds, & 1 steal

David Lee - 27 points, 3 assist, 11 rebounds, & 0 steals

Andris Biedrins - 8 points, 1 assist, 11 rebounds, & 0 steals

COOLbeans
12-21-2011, 02:41 AM
good. i just hope it lasts going into Sunday. that seems like he had a pretty good defensive game.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 02:42 AM
good. i just hope it lasts going into Sunday. that seems like he had a pretty good defensive game.

Yeah he had on play were he blocked two consecutive shots. He looked really good defensively & rebounding.

asandhu23
12-21-2011, 02:50 AM
We're ****ed.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 03:08 AM
Mibs, who wins the game?

MackShock
12-21-2011, 03:08 AM
We're ****ed.

This.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 03:28 AM
Mibs, who wins the game?

Depends on Curry. If he plays I honestly think we win. I think the crowd is going to be the deciding factor. So far are defense has looked great, Biedrins has looked good, and with our bench depth I think we can pull off the win. What really gives me hope, is how Biedrins looked on Cousins tonight. Cousins are Jordan are fairly similar in that they are both athletic & big. If Biedrins has trouble with Jordan we have Brown & Udoh as backup options. I think Wright & McGuire will shut Butler down, I think Ellis goes off on Billups, and I think Lee can match Griffins productivity.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 03:33 AM
Depends on Curry. If he plays I honestly think we win. I think the crowd is going to be the deciding factor. So far are defense has looked great, Biedrins has looked good, and with our bench depth I think we can pull off the win. What really gives me hope, is how Biedrins looked on Cousins tonight. Cousins are Jordan are fairly similar in that they are both athletic & big. If Biedrins has trouble with Jordan we have Brown & Udoh as backup options. I think Wright & McGuire will shut Butler down, I think Ellis goes off on Billups, and I think Lee can match Griffins productivity.

Our backcourt cannot handle CP3 and Billups..thats FACT. Well have to rely on our bigs. I dont think Lee will be able to stop Griffin, unless you put Beans on him, but he might be too slow. I'm really either way on this game..well have to see. I'm gonna watch the Lakers-Clippers rematch and see if they can slow down the Clippers. If not, were in trouble. BIG TROUBLE.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 03:34 AM
Biedrins has looked good

Really Mibs?

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 03:47 AM
Our backcourt cannot handle CP3 and Billups..thats FACT. Well have to rely on our bigs. I dont think Lee will be able to stop Griffin, unless you put Beans on him, but he might be too slow. I'm really either way on this game..well have to see. I'm gonna watch the Lakers-Clippers rematch and see if they can slow down the Clippers. If not, were in trouble. BIG TROUBLE.

I think Ellis can stop Billups and contain Paul. His defense tonight was outstanding. He guarded Evan & Thorton who are very different players. I do agree with you that Lee won't be able to stop Griffin, but on the flip side can Grffin stop Lee? And I believe that Udoh could do a very good job guarding Griffin. And out bench is clearly better then there's. I think the entire game relies on Biedrins.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 03:49 AM
Really Mibs?

He has. He had 4 blocks, 5 rebounds, & 2 steals in 18 minutes.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 04:18 AM
I think Ellis can stop Billups and contain Paul. His defense tonight was outstanding. He guarded Evan & Thorton who are very different players. I do agree with you that Lee won't be able to stop Griffin, but on the flip side can Grffin stop Lee? And I believe that Udoh could do a very good job guarding Griffin. And out bench is clearly better then there's. I think the entire game relies on Biedrins.

were screwed then...unless udoh plays the majority of the minutes at center, and guards griffin, while lee handles jordan

MackShock
12-21-2011, 04:21 AM
He has. He had 4 blocks, 5 rebounds, & 2 steals in 18 minutes.

good job playin it off

robbnen#31
12-21-2011, 04:26 AM
The key against the Clips is getting them into foul trouble, I don't think they are a very deep team. Monta should just attack the rim all day. Lee should just be himself and pull some crafty **** on Blake.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 04:30 AM
theyre deep in the backcourt..

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 04:37 AM
were screwed then...unless udoh plays the majority of the minutes at center, and guards griffin, while lee handles jordan

Dude I don't think your giving Biedrins enough credit. He did what he had to do this off-season & got right. So far in two preseason games he is averaging 17 MPG, 2 PPG, 5 RPG, 2 BPG, & 2 SPG. Sure the point's are not there, but they will come as he gets into shape & with more practice. Other then that he is basically giving the same production he did three years ago.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 04:38 AM
theyre deep in the backcourt..

But extremely thin on the front court. There backup center is 6'9.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 04:45 AM
but he can shoot threes. Brian Cook? 6'9 245. Also, Thompkins 6'10 245..Hubbard is the skinny one..theyre frontcourt bench is fairly big. Lee and Beans are 240 a piece, Udoh 245. Tyler though, BEAST 260 and Kwame 270.

We do have size in our frontcourt off the bench, but how often will Tyler or Kwame play?

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 04:54 AM
but he can shoot threes. Brian Cook? 6'9 245. Also, Thompkins 6'10 245..Hubbard is the skinny one..theyre frontcourt bench is fairly big. Lee and Beans are 240 a piece, Udoh 245. Tyler though, BEAST 260 and Kwame 270.

We do have size in our frontcourt off the bench, but how often will Tyler or Kwame play?

I didn't mean thin literally, I mean that they don't have much depth or production from there front-court. And Biedrins is up near 260 now as well.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 06:18 AM
255?

Trust me, we have our hands full...I know it's preseason, but they manhandled the Lakers.

Monta is beast
12-21-2011, 06:22 AM
255?

Trust me, we have our hands full...I know it's preseason, but they manhandled the Lakers.

Yeah he was 240 at the end of last season, and he out on 15 pounds. And I think this game will be different. Everyone is getting so crazy over that game. It was just a preseason game. The Lakers got blown out by the T-wolves in their first preseason game last year.

MackShock
12-21-2011, 08:26 AM
well see...im scared though..theyre dangerous

MackShock
12-21-2011, 09:36 AM
Can everybody do me a favor? I changed the layout on the OP. Compare it to the previous GT and tell me if you like it better. Thanks.

BrandoCommando
12-21-2011, 11:32 AM
If Curry is at 100% and he plays, I see us winning.

likemystylez
12-21-2011, 12:07 PM
If Curry is at 100% and he plays, I see us winning.

curry likely wont be 100%, he might be 80-85%. If this team wants to make the playoffs... they are going to have to play some games at less than 100%. The season is too short, and the warriors are not a lock so they cant tank games to get people healthy.

basically with their goals, their current roster, the rest of the west, and the shortened season... the warriors really need to approach every single game like its game 7 of the nba finals. meaning if there is any way on this green earth a player can suit up... they gotta be out there.....

OR- they can choose to reward the best fans in the nba by missing the playoffs... again.

moshy2
12-21-2011, 02:01 PM
I'll be there! Dubs better do work! I dont like our chances if Curry is out, but if he plays I think it's a tossup.

iFYouSeekAmy
12-21-2011, 04:44 PM
I don't want Thompson having the starting role. He couldn't shoot in preseason, so how would he produce offense in a real NBA game? I honestly would want Rush starting.

Ellis
Rush
Wright
Lee
Biedrins

Ellis guards the faster guard and Rush guards Billups. Jenkins, Thompson, McGuire, Udoh and Brown would be the second unit.

lol, please
12-21-2011, 04:51 PM
I don't want Thompson having the starting role. He couldn't shoot in preseason, so how would he produce offense in a real NBA game? I honestly would want Rush starting.

Ellis
Rush
Wright
Lee
Biedrins

Ellis guards the faster guard and Rush guards Billups. Jenkins, Thompson, McGuire, Udoh and Brown would be the second unit.

I agree.

lol, please
12-21-2011, 04:54 PM
Can everybody do me a favor? I changed the layout on the OP. Compare it to the previous GT and tell me if you like it better. Thanks.

I don't notice a difference :laugh:

MackShock
12-21-2011, 05:16 PM
look harder

likemystylez
12-22-2011, 11:15 AM
was watching the clippers lakers game yesterday. The clippers are good, and deep. They worked hard this off season to get better.... I cant believe im saying this but joe lacobn and company are currently being outworked by the LA clippers organization and frankly it isnt even close. They brought in chris paul, caron butler and chauncey billups. The warriors brought in kwame brown and brandon rush. Unless clay thompson has a lebron james like rookie season... the warriors will basically be tanking again.

Yes, if you allow the clippers to be that much more productive than you... you might as well be tanking. If the clippers can figure out a way to get big names to come and wear a clippers jersey... it isnt nearly as impossible as warriors pr would make it sound.

Obviously chandler wasnt thrilled about the idea of being a warrior... if it took a 10 minute phone call for him to go to NY without even thinking twice.

MackShock
12-22-2011, 12:44 PM
So, just because the Clipper's made better acquisitions means the Warriors are tanking? LMFAO...okay man.

Monta is beast
12-22-2011, 06:46 PM
Media just let into Warriors practice. Stephen Curry in street clothes with nice white sweater.


Monta Ellis left before media availability. Team says he's getting treatment for bruised right shoulder


Stephen Curry listed as day-to-day but sounded optimistic he'd play on Sunday in season-opener vs. LA Clippers.

http://twitter.com/#!/msteinmetzcsn

robbnen#31
12-22-2011, 09:37 PM
So, just because the Clipper's made better acquisitions means the Warriors are tanking? LMFAO...okay man.

And stylez with the most delusional post of this early season, lets see if it can get even better!

likemystylez
12-23-2011, 02:03 AM
So, just because the Clipper's made better acquisitions means the Warriors are tanking? LMFAO...okay man.

they are the clippers... being outdone by an organization who has routinely made bad decisions and has a reputation as the laughing stock of the nba.... is not a good sign for your organization if you are serious about turning the warriors into a contender like the owners claim.

likemystylez
12-23-2011, 02:05 AM
And stylez with the most delusional post of this early season, lets see if it can get even better!

delusional might be the people who believe in the front office after the display this summer after they had 7 months to prepare with the lockout. 7 months to figure out their game plan and hit the ground running.... and they got rush and kwame brown??

lol, please
12-23-2011, 03:16 AM
delusional might be the people who believe in the front office after the display this summer after they had 7 months to prepare with the lockout. 7 months to figure out their game plan and hit the ground running.... and they got rush and kwame brown??

That's not fair, they tried to get Paul and Jordan.

Monta is beast
12-23-2011, 03:20 AM
That's not fair, they tried to get Paul and Jordan.

And Chandler.

likemystylez
12-23-2011, 03:23 AM
That's not fair, they tried to get Paul and Jordan.

they didnt try to get paul, they backed out when NO asked for steph curry. They werent willing to take a chance. If the warriors want to make a franchise altering trade... they are probably going to have to take a chance. They probably are not going to be offered Lebron james for dorell wright or a no brainer like that.....i hope they are not waiting to draft a dwight howard or something

robbnen#31
12-23-2011, 03:46 AM
delusional might be the people who believe in the front office after the display this summer after they had 7 months to prepare with the lockout. 7 months to figure out their game plan and hit the ground running.... and they got rush and kwame brown??


they didnt try to get paul, they backed out when NO asked for steph curry. They werent willing to take a chance. If the warriors want to make a franchise altering trade... they are probably going to have to take a chance. They probably are not going to be offered Lebron james for dorell wright or a no brainer like that.....i hope they are not waiting to draft a dwight howard or something

What were they supposed to do? Goal A was not to go above the cap Goal B was to sign a center (Nene/Gasol eliminated due to Goal A), leaving Chandler, Jordan, Brown. Chandler picked the Knicks over the Warriors (no, the FO can't always magically convince a player to do something even when they have their mind set on it). Then we offered Jordan a contract (sacrificed a valuable asset: the amnesty clause) despite having to sacrifice an asset to do so, and then they were matched due to Jordan's RFA status. They followed the plan, and weren't able to sign a better FA center than Kwame Brown due to reasons that were uncontrollable to them.

For the next part, your issue is that you would rather the Warriors do whatever is necessary to make some sort of bold drastic change. Even if this means reaching the playoff just this year, with absolutely nothing left for the next season. If we had traded Curry, Thompson, Udoh for Chris Paul, he would leave following the season, sign with the Knicks, and we would be left with Ellis Lee and Biedrins.

Would you applaud the following situation:

Warriors make the Paul trade (which included Curry), Warriors reach the playoffs, Warriors get knocked out of 1st round of playoffs, Chris Paul signs with the Knicks, the Warriors win 15 games the following season.

Based on your posts, I would have to believe you would be ecstatic for this scenario to happen.

MackShock
12-23-2011, 04:57 AM
good post. way to close it out rob nen :)

BrandoCommando
12-23-2011, 01:48 PM
clips are going down. 2 more days...

apet8945
12-23-2011, 02:39 PM
Guys, don't mean any disrespect, but you're game thread is completely wrong. Not sure if you guys have just left it like that on purpose or not but it's a Warriors home game on December 25th, not a Clippers home game on the 20th.

If you guys don't care then that's cool. I just thought nobody noticed and that I should let you guys know. Good luck on Sunday.

MackShock
12-23-2011, 02:45 PM
Guys, don't mean any disrespect, but you're game thread is completely wrong. Not sure if you guys have just left it like that on purpose or not but it's a Warriors home game on December 25th, not a Clippers home game on the 20th.

If you guys don't care then that's cool. I just thought nobody noticed and that I should let you guys know. Good luck on Sunday.

i just noticed. i was making templates and forgot to change the date. thanks. youre going down :)

apet8945
12-23-2011, 02:53 PM
i just noticed. i was making templates and forgot to change the date. thanks. youre going down :)

Hehe, playing you guys is always interesting. I can't really say if we'll win or not, haven't had a big enough sample size of our team playing together yet, but I hope we do. Should be fun.

Monta is beast
12-23-2011, 03:45 PM
Hehe, playing you guys is always interesting. I can't really say if we'll win or not, haven't had a big enough sample size of our team playing together yet, but I hope we do. Should be fun.

We know one thing, it will definitely be interesting.

MackShock
12-23-2011, 04:44 PM
Hehe, playing you guys is always interesting. I can't really say if we'll win or not, haven't had a big enough sample size of our team playing together yet, but I hope we do. Should be fun.

sample size..reminds me of the stats class i just bombed :(

population proportion?

also, if you didnt notice, the date was set at december 20th, 2012..one day before doomsday lol

Monta is beast
12-23-2011, 10:34 PM
Were exactly 48 hours & 57 minutes away from the game!

lol, please
12-24-2011, 04:06 AM
Just came from the Clippers GDT. They are pretty cocky over there. It would be nice if the W's pissed on their parade. :clap:

Monta is beast
12-24-2011, 04:11 AM
Just came from the Clippers GDT. They are pretty cocky over there. It would be nice if the W's pissed on their parade. :clap:

There calling it an easy win, Griffin will go for 35 & 15. People are really underestimating us this season.

Leandres_sf
12-24-2011, 04:27 AM
I'd say they're over estimating the Clippers. This should be a great game.

Monta is beast
12-24-2011, 04:38 AM
I'd say they're over estimating the Clippers. This should be a great game.

Yeah, lol. I'm looking forward to this one!

Daunter
12-24-2011, 09:21 AM
Its going to be tough to beat the Clippers without Curry

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 02:22 PM
no ****

Lloyd Christmas
12-24-2011, 03:35 PM
Chris Paul is going to make DeAndre look good this year. He will **** on Biedrins.

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 07:07 PM
its sad really. but deandre jordan looked legit out there.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 07:07 PM
is there any word on steph curry yet? I thought I heard he would announce whether or not he was going to play today.

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 07:10 PM
i havent heard anything. i imagine he will play though. this game is too huge and so far the diagnosis has been positive.

Monta is beast
12-24-2011, 07:28 PM
Curry is getting treatment after going through drills. Still no word

http://twitter.com/#!/gswscribe

Monta is beast
12-24-2011, 07:29 PM
Warriors point guard Stephen Curry remains a game-time decision for Sunday’s regular-season opener against the L.A. Clippers.

Curry did not participate in the Warriors’ practice on Saturday afternoon, the third consecutive one he’s missed since spraining his right ankle in Tuesday night’s exhibition game against the Kings.

Curry indicated on Friday that, ideally, he’d like to get a practice in before Sunday’s game. But coach Mark Jackson said he wasn’t going to rule Curry out with more than a day until tip-off.

“No reason (for Curry to practice),” Jackson said. “We get a little bit more time to get treatment and make sure to give him the best possible chance to play,” And we’ll make a decision (Sunday).”

Curry did come out to the team’s practice floor after practice and got some shots up, but not at game speed. Curry worked out with assistant coach Michael Malone, doing shooting drills, then went into the locker room to get treatment.

He didn’t speak to reporters afterwards.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/warriors-talk/post/Curry-sits-out-his-third-consecutive-pra?blockID=618660&feedID=5882

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 07:37 PM
im not sure if thats good news or bad news.... lol this is stressful. It would suck if he plays and the team still tanks it

robbnen#31
12-24-2011, 07:44 PM
I would love to hear your thoughts on this post from this thread stylez:

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showpost.php?p=20234671&postcount=60

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 07:46 PM
haha we're not tanking.. whats with you this week.

Monta is beast
12-24-2011, 07:49 PM
im not sure if thats good news or bad news.... lol this is stressful. It would suck if he plays and the team still tanks it

Did someone hack your account lol? You've seemed depressed about the Warriors this week.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 07:50 PM
haha we're not tanking.. whats with you this week.

well if you are serious about turning this thing around... I think its crucial that you beat a team like the clippers (who finished lower than you last season) in the same confrence. You definitely dont want a team to leap frog you... and it appears as though the clippers wanted to improve more than the warriors this summer.

You dont want to throw away home games on teams that were worse than you last year unless u plan on tanking the season.

Monta is beast
12-24-2011, 07:55 PM
well if you are serious about turning this thing around... I think its crucial that you beat a team like the clippers (who finished lower than you last season) in the same confrence. You definitely dont want a team to leap frog you... and it appears as though the clippers wanted to improve more than the warriors this summer.

You dont want to throw away home games on teams that were worse than you last year unless u plan on tanking the season.

I understand why your upset that the Clippers, usually the laughing stock of the league, improved a whole lot more then the Warriors did this off-season. But, you can't fault the Warriors for effort. We tried as hard as we could to get Tyson Chandler, Chris Paul, & DeAndre Jordan. It's upsetting that we didn't even get one of them, but that's going to be part of the process. Getting players to want to play here. Give it some time.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 07:56 PM
Did someone hack your account lol? You've seemed depressed about the Warriors this week.

I am absolutey terrified that they are going to miss the playoffs again this year because I dont know if the offseason moves gaurentee them a spot in the playoffs in 2012.

Im worried mark jackson is lieing to the fans.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 08:00 PM
I understand why your upset that the Clippers, usually the laughing stock of the league, improved a whole lot more then the Warriors did this off-season. But, you can't fault the Warriors for effort. We tried as hard as we could to get Tyson Chandler, Chris Paul, & DeAndre Jordan. It's upsetting that we didn't even get one of them, but that's going to be part of the process. Getting players to want to play here. Give it some time.

1st of all they didnt do everything they could do. The team took curry off the table for chris paul and curry was the only player that NO was interested in. So essentially the warriors front office killed any chance of the team landing chris paul. Yes he was a risk... but a risk to get great is better than gaurenteeing youself failure.

2nd- its frusterating because players dont want to come here until we are winning, and we arent going to win without getting players... so there is clearly an obsticle that theres no gaurentee that time will solve (I mean its been 17 yrs? and the problem hasnt gone away... we have new owners but if jerry west doesnt add credibility... I dont know what will... I dont expect lebron james and dwigjht howard to force a trade to the warriors any time soon do you??

Monta is beast
12-24-2011, 08:35 PM
1st of all they didnt do everything they could do. The team took curry off the table for chris paul and curry was the only player that NO was interested in. So essentially the warriors front office killed any chance of the team landing chris paul. Yes he was a risk... but a risk to get great is better than gaurenteeing youself failure.

2nd- its frusterating because players dont want to come here until we are winning, and we arent going to win without getting players... so there is clearly an obsticle that theres no gaurentee that time will solve (I mean its been 17 yrs? and the problem hasnt gone away... we have new owners but if jerry west doesnt add credibility... I dont know what will... I dont expect lebron james and dwigjht howard to force a trade to the warriors any time soon do you??

But like RobNen said. Would you have rather done that trade, and then Paul leave at the end of the year. Then we would be stuck with Ellis & Lee as the best players on the team. I think if were in the race to make the playoffs near the trade deadline, I can honestly say I trust management to make the right move to put us in the playoffs. Whens the last time you could say that?

And I know it's frustrating dude. Were all die hard Warriors fans, and we have had to settle for one playoff appearance in 17 years. But I have hope that Lacob will make us a good team. You can tell he wants this team to be good. He went out & paid Jackson & Malone, he didn't have to do that. Times are gonna change dude, just be patient.

robbnen#31
12-24-2011, 08:50 PM
1st of all they didnt do everything they could do. The team took curry off the table for chris paul and curry was the only player that NO was interested in. So essentially the warriors front office killed any chance of the team landing chris paul. Yes he was a risk... but a risk to get great is better than gaurenteeing youself failure.

2nd- its frusterating because players dont want to come here until we are winning, and we arent going to win without getting players... so there is clearly an obsticle that theres no gaurentee that time will solve (I mean its been 17 yrs? and the problem hasnt gone away... we have new owners but if jerry west doesnt add credibility... I dont know what will... I dont expect lebron james and dwigjht howard to force a trade to the warriors any time soon do you??

This part was posted before, but you seem to have skipped by it a few times:

What were they supposed to do? Goal A was not to go above the cap Goal B was to sign a center (Nene/Gasol eliminated due to Goal A), leaving Chandler, Jordan, Brown. Chandler picked the Knicks over the Warriors (no, the FO can't always magically convince a player to do something even when they have their mind set on it). Then we offered Jordan a contract (sacrificed a valuable asset: the amnesty clause) despite having to sacrifice an asset to do so, and then they were matched due to Jordan's RFA status. They followed the plan, and weren't able to sign a better FA center than Kwame Brown due to reasons that were uncontrollable to them.

For the next part, your issue is that you would rather the Warriors do whatever is necessary to make some sort of bold drastic change. Even if this means reaching the playoff just this year, with absolutely nothing left for the next season. If we had traded Curry, Thompson, Udoh for Chris Paul, he would leave following the season, sign with the Knicks, and we would be left with Ellis Lee and Biedrins.

Would you applaud the following situation:

Warriors make the Paul trade (which included Curry), Warriors reach the playoffs, Warriors get knocked out of 1st round of playoffs, Chris Paul signs with the Knicks, the Warriors win 15 games the following season.

Based on your posts, I would have to believe you would be ecstatic for this scenario to happen.

MackShock
12-24-2011, 09:21 PM
Would you trade 1 year of the playoffs for the next 4 to 5 years of not being in the playoffs?

The Warriors are borderline, and are far from contenders. But they are borderline. We were a pretty good team that needs a couple minor pieces to make the playoffs. We already have decent rebounding and a solid post defender in Kwame Brown..Im aiming for him to make a difference at least somewhat, and I think he will. As bad as it sounds, at the very least, he makes our bench better.

I guess the front office is building on last seasons 10 win improvement, rather than trading away our future for one year of the playoffs.

Here on this forum we have MANY that complain about how we trade our star players who have potential away..the Paul trade was going to do that. I know we wouldve gotten a superstar in return, but we wouldve given up everything to get him. I'm glas we didnt trade away our future like we did in the past. Good for us.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 10:18 PM
This part was posted before, but you seem to have skipped by it a few times:

What were they supposed to do? Goal A was not to go above the cap Goal B was to sign a center (Nene/Gasol eliminated due to Goal A), leaving Chandler, Jordan, Brown.
The first sentence made me think you dont follow warriors basketball or you are just making stuff up. The front office has never ever ever ever ever ever ever came out and said that their primary goal thos off season was to avoid going over the cap. Infact most of what they have said has been the exact opposite..... so i dont know if your just making that up, or if you have mistaken the warriors with another team or what... but it makes me question the rest of your post.

Chandler picked the Knicks over the Warriors (no, the FO can't always magically convince a player to do something even when they have their mind set on it). Then we offered Jordan a contract (sacrificed a valuable asset: the amnesty clause) despite having to sacrifice an asset to do so, and then they were matched due to Jordan's RFA status. They followed the plan, and weren't able to sign a better FA center than Kwame Brown due to reasons that were uncontrollable to them.

perhaps the plan wasnt well thought out, maybe they should have focused on trades rather than free agency, or tried to get pieces that would help more at a more reasonable price than kwame brown. being an agent- bob myers should have had a better understanding of what it would take to bring in a big name free agent... and if there was no real chance... the front office should have gone another avenue to make an impact move.

For the next part, your issue is that you would rather the Warriors do whatever is necessary to make some sort of bold drastic change. Even if this means reaching the playoff just this year, with absolutely nothing left for the next season. If we had traded Curry, Thompson, Udoh for Chris Paul, he would leave following the season, sign with the Knicks, and we would be left with Ellis Lee and Biedrins.

Would you applaud the following situation:

Warriors make the Paul trade (which included Curry), Warriors reach the playoffs, Warriors get knocked out of 1st round of playoffs, Chris Paul signs with the Knicks, the Warriors win 15 games the following season.

Based on your posts, I would have to believe you would be ecstatic for this scenario to happen.

The issue I have with the chris paul trade isnt about chris paul per se. The issue I have is that everyone keeps saying that the warriors did everything they could to get chris paul. That is simply false, the warriors took the one player new orleans was interested in off the table (steph curry). They made the clear choice not to go all in on for chris paul. They made the clear choice to sit back and watch their division rival get him and likely leap frog them.

Now everyone is entitle to their opinion... but once again you are making the assumption that chris paul absolutely would not have signed with the warriors. he never quoted that he would not sign, just that he wasnt willing to at that time. writers have said he wont sign... but writers also said the warriors didnt have a chance in a 7 game series against dallas, they said carmello to chicago was a done deal last year, they said carlos boozer was undersized and wouldnt be a top tier player at the nba level.

The front office would have to make some more moves to build around chris paul to prove to him they wanted to build a contender.... but they would have a chance.

By backing away from the chris paul trade in order to keep intact the same core that failed to make the play offs last year.... what do you think that says to other potential free agents? This team isnt willing to go all out to get a chance at getting better.

I guess its the teams choice if they want to back out of a trade.... but dont sit there and say we did everything possible to make the trade happen. They did everything possible except take a chance.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 10:25 PM
Would you trade 1 year of the playoffs for the next 4 to 5 years of not being in the playoffs?


I would trade one year in the playoffs with the potential for the next 4 or 5 yrs in the playoffs... to being a 10th-12th seed for the next 15 years. The front office still hasnt convinced me that there is a slam dunk trade coming at the deadline or next summer or in 2015 or whenever.


The Warriors are borderline, and are far from contenders. But they are borderline. We were a pretty good team that needs a couple minor pieces to make the playoffs. We already have decent rebounding and a solid post defender in Kwame Brown..Im aiming for him to make a difference at least somewhat, and I think he will. As bad as it sounds, at the very least, he makes our bench better.

Kwame brown signings are not going to change the culture of the team. Its kinda like the derek fisher signing. the fropnt office had 7 months to figure this out with so many great basketball minds on staff... this is not acceptable and neither are the excuses that they tried.


I guess the front office is building on last seasons 10 win improvement, rather than trading away our future for one year of the playoffs.

the 10 game winning improvement wasnt that big of a real improvement... it was more a function of nba level players being in the rotation as oppose to cba players. They had the talent on the roster to win 36 games the year before.... they just had an average of 4 or 5 rotation players injured basically all season long.

Here on this forum we have MANY that complain about how we trade our star players who have potential away..the Paul trade was going to do that. I know we wouldve gotten a superstar in return, but we wouldve given up everything to get him. I'm glas we didnt trade away our future like we did in the past. Good for us.

im not talking about moving players just to move them like the stephen jackson or corey maggette deals... or to free up cap so we can pay kwame brown 7 million a yr?? LOL im talking about making a trade to get chris paul on the team!!!... a trade to put the rest of the league on notice that the warriors want to turn this thing around and are not content with a 10th seed team for the next 2 decades.

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 10:30 PM
I am absolutey terrified that they are going to miss the playoffs again this year because I dont know if the offseason moves gaurentee them a spot in the playoffs in 2012.

Im worried mark jackson is lieing to the fans.

you do realize that Mark Jackson's promise to make the playoffs was to transcend confidence to hopefully lure additional help/FA's to the Warriors.

what did you want him to say.. "we're a borderline team who needs a lot of help in FA to win more games?" No, that would be wrong. He would be getting the team off to a wrong start with that sort of mindset. He did the right thing. Its the business of basketball and sports.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 10:35 PM
you do realize that Mark Jackson's promise to make the playoffs was to transcend confidence to hopefully lure additional help/FA's to the Warriors.

what did you want him to say.. "we're a borderline team who needs a lot of help in FA to win more games?" No, that would be wrong. He would be getting the team off to a wrong start with that sort of mindset. He did the right thing. Its the business of basketball and sports.

name one other coach that has gaurenteed the playoffs for a non playoff team?... I cant think of any, especially a rookie coach. Does that mean that every other coach in the business of basketball did what would be "wrong"?

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 10:43 PM
name one other coach that has gaurenteed the playoffs for a non playoff team?... I cant think of any, especially a rookie coach. Does that mean that every other coach in the business of basketball did what would be "wrong"?

no they're not wrong. i just don't follow their teams. nor do i know many quotes of various coaches around the league. you said it. hes a rookie coach. im sure he was guaranteeing playoffs with a strong hoorah from upper management. mark jackson was a gamer, and he knows what it takes to win. the coaches that he's studied under and played for cannot be denied going back to his collegiate days. he knows what he's doing, and he also knows how to handle the media.

new season, new management, new coach, and a 36 win team. But they're playing on Christmas day against the most hyped team in the league. brilliant p.r. getting our name out there. and also kudos to Jackson for having confidence in his young and talented team. Good start to the season :clap: now lets get a win.

robbnen#31
12-24-2011, 10:50 PM
Your Post

I just edited your quote to make it easier to read since there were bolded sections both within my quote and your new post. For the first part, where you question whether I made up the part about the salary cap:

Here is an excerpt from an article by Marcus Thompson

(For context purposes: This is being referenced to reasons why the Warriors wouldn't use the amnesty clause on Biedrins. The new deal mentioned is referring to the new CBA)

"That is a lot of money to pay a guy to leave. Joe Lacob is a guy who didn’t want to pay the luxury tax even before the new deal. He clearly isn’t a big spender. For him to take a $27 million hit for some cap flexibility doesn’t sound like him."

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2011/11/27/5-reasons-the-warriors-wont-amnesty-biedrins/

It's not like this is the only reference to where the Warriors FO has indicated that they don't want to go over the cap. We've been posting on here for years, I'm surprised that you of all people wasn't aware of this.

You say that the Warriors didn't do everything possible to acquire Chris Paul because they didn't take a chance (the chance being trading Curry). As it appears from your posts, you would have liked to see the Warriors take this chance. Again, since you didn't answer this before, would you applaud the Warriors FO for the following scenario:

Warriors make the Paul trade (which included Curry), Warriors reach the playoffs, Warriors get knocked out of 1st round of playoffs, Chris Paul signs with the Knicks, the Warriors win 15 games the following season.

MackShock
12-24-2011, 10:56 PM
yeah dude..

stylez, you come into every training camp saying we didnt do this and i dont believe that..i mean really, youre just asking for the warriors to fail. i realize your opinion and mood has nothing to do with how the team performs, but cant you focus on the positive?

cant you say well we got a good post defender, something the warriors lacked. we filled one of our holes didnt we? cant you have faith or at the very least confidence in your own team?

im just like you in a way. i keep everything 100% and real. i think the warriors are gonna make the playoffs until they prove to me otherwise..but the difference is you are just asusming they arent going to do good. and even when they do good, there's always some sort of criticism you give them e.g. they blowout knicks and youll say like "well carmelo had an off shooting night" or "biedrins still isnt hitting free throws.."


really man, just be confident until they are mathematically out of it. whats the point of not even thinking they will make it? to save yourself the disappointment? to say that "i told you so?"

well if the warriors make the playoffs, my dude..i will rub "i told you so" in your face :)

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 11:00 PM
lol "your post"

COOLbeans
12-24-2011, 11:04 PM
yeah dude..



well if the warriors make the playoffs, my dude..i will rub "i told you so" in your face :)

man i was thinking the same thing.

MackShock
12-24-2011, 11:20 PM
lol "your post"


man i was thinking the same thing.

These..lol

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 11:44 PM
I just edited your quote to make it easier to read since there were bolded sections both within my quote and your new post. For the first part, where you question whether I made up the part about the salary cap:

Here is an excerpt from an article by Marcus Thompson

(For context purposes: This is being referenced to reasons why the Warriors wouldn't use the amnesty clause on Biedrins. The new deal mentioned is referring to the new CBA)

"That is a lot of money to pay a guy to leave. Joe Lacob is a guy who didnít want to pay the luxury tax even before the new deal. He clearly isnít a big spender. For him to take a $27 million hit for some cap flexibility doesnít sound like him."


well thats a missinformed statement for a few reasons. They chose not to use the amnesty on beidrins because he is a 25 yr old center, not because he makes 9 million a year for the next 3.

Also the way the amnesty works, if they waived beidrins- he would go on waivers. If kwame brown is worth 7 million a year, then beidrins would likely get atleast 4 or 5 million a year from another team. The warriors would have to pay the balance of his 9 million dollar salary after that which would be 4-5 million a year.... not a whole lot different then bell's salary.

Also- thats a quote from marcus thompson... (who I just proved doesnt understand the amnesty clause completely). There is nothing from Joe lacob or any member of warriors ownership team or management saying anything of that sort.

"He clearly isnt a big spender"??- He just offered a guy who has never made an all star game 15 million a year. (Tyson Chandler)

He paid more to own an nba team than anybody in nba history. He challenged larry Ellison to a bidding war for crying out loud!!

He just bought a D league team, even though it likely wont pay dividends for atleast 4 or 5 years.

He paid jerry west to work for his division rival, LOl he is likely paying the salary of 3 GMS right now.

Mike malone is the highest paid assistant coach in the NBA.

If he isnt much of a spender... IM sorry but Im not finding it that CLEAR that he isnt willing to spend money.... but whatever Marcus Thompson says I guess.


[/QUOTE]It's not like this is the only reference to where the Warriors FO has indicated that they don't want to go over the cap. We've been posting on here for years, I'm surprised that you of all people wasn't aware of this.

You say that the Warriors didn't do everything possible to acquire Chris Paul because they didn't take a chance (the chance being trading Curry). As it appears from your posts, you would have liked to see the Warriors take this chance. Again, since you didn't answer this before, would you applaud the Warriors FO for the following scenario:

Warriors make the Paul trade (which included Curry), Warriors reach the playoffs, Warriors get knocked out of 1st round of playoffs, Chris Paul signs with the Knicks, the Warriors win 15 games the following season.[/QUOTE]

Ok thats fine- just dont go saying we did everything we could to get paul. YES THERE was a risk. Im not saying chris paul was the right choice necesarly... but at this point the warriors are running out of ways to make this a playoff team.

likemystylez
12-24-2011, 11:49 PM
yeah dude..

stylez, you come into every training camp saying we didnt do this and i dont believe that..i mean really, youre just asking for the warriors to fail. i realize your opinion and mood has nothing to do with how the team performs, but cant you focus on the positive?

cant you say well we got a good post defender, something the warriors lacked. we filled one of our holes didnt we? cant you have faith or at the very least confidence in your own team?

im just like you in a way. i keep everything 100% and real. i think the warriors are gonna make the playoffs until they prove to me otherwise..but the difference is you are just asusming they arent going to do good. and even when they do good, there's always some sort of criticism you give them e.g. they blowout knicks and youll say like "well carmelo had an off shooting night" or "biedrins still isnt hitting free throws.."


really man, just be confident until they are mathematically out of it. whats the point of not even thinking they will make it? to save yourself the disappointment? to say that "i told you so?"

well if the warriors make the playoffs, my dude..i will rub "i told you so" in your face :)

I look forward to it and Id love for you to rub that in my face... but for a second lets see how confident each of us are right now.

1000 bucks says the warriors wont make the playoffs.... and as a sweetner for you... if you win, ill give you the 1000 bucks AND buy you good lower bowl tickets to a playoff game?

so you can rub it in my face and get rewarded for doing it!!! and I wont be negative all summer.

any for real takers... just to see how confident we all are?

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 12:25 AM
mackshock's in college. he isnt gonna bet a thousand. make it a lower rounded number like 50 or a hundred. i think that makes the bet more serious, as it would be a more realistic challenge.

lol, please
12-25-2011, 03:48 AM
Making an effort to read through this whole page was excruciatingly painful, both to my eyes, and to the "W" inside me.

Lloyd Christmas
12-25-2011, 03:53 AM
Before this offseason I brushed off stylez's takes. We all said we will make our moves this offseason since all of the cap saving moves will finally pay off. Well they very well could have if we traded Curry for Paul. Why wait for Chandler to sign before we would trade for Paul? Make the trade and I guarantee you our chances of signing Chandler would have been exponentially higher. All we have heard about is how our front office is not afraid to make bold moves. Well I call BS on that now. We had a chance. We didn't take it.

When Chandler signed with NY we still should have taken the chance on Paul. NY would not have had the space to sign him the following year so what team would have had the upper hand on signing him? Most likely us with his bird rights. Right? Once again, it was a risk worth taking.

Stylez, I'm with you on this one. We did nothing to improve this year. I know our FO tried to sign Chandler, and made LA pay Jordan a little extra, but that's about it. I for one am not satisfied with going the safe route.

iFYouSeekAmy
12-25-2011, 04:08 AM
^ Exactly.

Now we're gonna endure the disappointments of the Clippers and maybe the Kings finish with a better record than us. I may be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong, but on paper the two teams are LOADED with talent and depth. There really isn't a bright side- we're stuck with the same roster basically.

MackShock
12-25-2011, 08:10 AM
I look forward to it and Id love for you to rub that in my face... but for a second lets see how confident each of us are right now.

1000 bucks says the warriors wont make the playoffs.... and as a sweetner for you... if you win, ill give you the 1000 bucks AND buy you good lower bowl tickets to a playoff game?

so you can rub it in my face and get rewarded for doing it!!! and I wont be negative all summer.

any for real takers... just to see how confident we all are?

I'm not gonna bet you 1000 dollars on the chances of the Warriors making the playoffs. I dont know if you picked up on this already, but I have my doubts too. Didn't you notice I said IF the warriors made the playoffs?

While I dont doubt that your a loyal fan, I know that you know your stuff regarding the Warriors. You were right about them not making the playoffs last year when they made that little run..but I'm sure most people would agree that already assuming the Warriors wont make the playoffs (unless they have a very sucky team) isn't the best mind state to have to start off the season.

Were you rooting for the warriors to fail when the madey the 07 playoffs? I bet you were..not because I'm being a douche, but because it seems like business as usual for you..

We didn't have the ideal offseason we would've liked, but we signed a solid post defender and traded away our worse big man for Brandon Rush. Good trade because it opens up doors for Jeremy Tyler AND we have depth in our backcourt. ESPECIALLY now that Curry is injured. We made some patch moves, and they were right ones.

Tell me, what's the point of rooting for the team or even watching games if you know theyre gonna suck and not make the playoffs? I mean at this rate you should just watch Raw and Smackdown right?

You never know what can happen. They might make a midseason acquisition, who knows? At least for me, it's makes it exciting to think that the Warriors have a shot at the playoffs.

But wait, they wont make the playoffs right? Now that the Clippers have Chris Paul, it absolutely means the Warriors are tanking.

So the Net got Mehmet Okur who DeShawn who are better than Brown and Rush. Oh dear, that means we're automatically tanking.

Wait a minute, didn't the Kings claim Travis Outlaw from the waiver wire because he was amnestied? WOW..it's tank city for the Warriors.

Wait a minute wait a minute. You mean Ronny Turiaf is on the Wizards now? Wow, he's such a better player than Brown, the Warriors MUST be tanking..

It can go on and on for teams who were worse than us last season..

Niro
12-25-2011, 11:01 AM
what up guys i am back :D
game starts at 4:30 am in germany..gonna be a looong night

Monta is beast
12-25-2011, 03:39 PM
:jumpy:

GSWFanInLA
12-25-2011, 03:46 PM
Hey Warriors fam.
Can't wait to beat those overhyped clips!

SugeKnight
12-25-2011, 04:47 PM
The game starts at 7:30 AM here in Dubai. I dont know whether to stay up or wake up early

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 05:17 PM
I'm not gonna bet you 1000 dollars on the chances of the Warriors making the playoffs. I dont know if you picked up on this already, but I have my doubts too. Didn't you notice I said IF the warriors made the playoffs?

While I dont doubt that your a loyal fan, I know that you know your stuff regarding the Warriors. You were right about them not making the playoffs last year when they made that little run..but I'm sure most people would agree that already assuming the Warriors wont make the playoffs (unless they have a very sucky team) isn't the best mind state to have to start off the season.

Were you rooting for the warriors to fail when the madey the 07 playoffs? I bet you were..not because I'm being a douche, but because it seems like business as usual for you..

We didn't have the ideal offseason we would've liked, but we signed a solid post defender and traded away our worse big man for Brandon Rush. Good trade because it opens up doors for Jeremy Tyler AND we have depth in our backcourt. ESPECIALLY now that Curry is injured. We made some patch moves, and they were right ones.

Tell me, what's the point of rooting for the team or even watching games if you know theyre gonna suck and not make the playoffs? I mean at this rate you should just watch Raw and Smackdown right?

You never know what can happen. They might make a midseason acquisition, who knows? At least for me, it's makes it exciting to think that the Warriors have a shot at the playoffs.

But wait, they wont make the playoffs right? Now that the Clippers have Chris Paul, it absolutely means the Warriors are tanking.

So the Net got Mehmet Okur who DeShawn who are better than Brown and Rush. Oh dear, that means we're automatically tanking.

Wait a minute, didn't the Kings claim Travis Outlaw from the waiver wire because he was amnestied? WOW..it's tank city for the Warriors.

Wait a minute wait a minute. You mean Ronny Turiaf is on the Wizards now? Wow, he's such a better player than Brown, the Warriors MUST be tanking..

It can go on and on for teams who were worse than us last season..

Alright then... thats fine, well I was just seeing who was being real and who wasnt. It sounds like your on the Bob Fitzgerald "Let's see how beidrins returns to form" blindly optimistic view. That's cool- but dont sit back and claim that you tell it like it is.

and regards to me rooting for them to fail... Wow you couldnt be more wrong. I honestly believe that I want them in the playoffs more than the owners do. I would bet every regular member on the warriors forum the same bet I gave you (It would probably cost me over 20 grand... and i would be happy paying that amount of money to root for a team that cared about making the playoffs. Honestly- im not even asking for a championship... just the playoffs!! Just the playoffs for more than 1/18 yrs?

anyways- heres hoping that the warriors front office cares about you having a merry xmas as much as i would. Lets see if they produce a win tonight.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 08:10 PM
in terms of your decision on not only the bet but also the warriors chances of making the playoffs;does it make a difference whether or not they win tonight? tip offs in about 3hrs.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 08:12 PM
:jumpy:

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 08:27 PM
in terms of your decision on not only the bet but also the warriors chances of making the playoffs;does it make a difference whether or not they win tonight? tip offs in about 3hrs.

I guess i dont really understand the question? Its not a good idea to waste home games losing to teams that were lower than you last season. (ESP since they have games against the Bulls and knicks at home in the first week)

I would say they need to aim for atleast 24 or 25 wins at home to have a chance at the playoffs. They have most of the big east powers at oakland this season. I personally am not sure whats good about that... if your gonna lose to a team either way, id rather have the game on the road. Save the home games for the 50/50 games.

Also- I dont think mark jackson is going to get on the good side of fans here in the bay area if he decides to start the season 0-3 or something. The season is too short to start out on a lising streak. Atleast if you are serious about making the playoffs.

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 08:29 PM
but no I wasnt betting 1000 dollars just on tonights game if thats your question. Also- if by chance the warriors are doing good.... please dont PM me if I want to take the bet a week before the season ends. The bet is serious but its gotta be legit for either side.

Fillygt
12-25-2011, 08:53 PM
I was too lazy to read all 8 pgs. but I did look at the 1,000 post goal, and I wanted to help out. Our game time threads are not near as lengthy as the Giants and Niners threads. Good to see this one already at 8 pgs.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 09:03 PM
but no I wasnt betting 1000 dollars just on tonights game if thats your question. Also- if by chance the warriors are doing good.... please dont PM me if I want to take the bet a week before the season ends. The bet is serious but its gotta be legit for either side.

yea i wasnt clear. what i meant was, would you still bet a thousand dollars even if the warriors won after tonight.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 09:06 PM
I was too lazy to read all 8 pgs. but I did look at the 1,000 post goal, and I wanted to help out. Our game time threads are not near as lengthy as the Giants and Niners threads. Good to see this one already at 8 pgs.

hey man, u should probably change your settings to maybe 20 posts or more per page. it will save u a lot of time having to go to that many pages.

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 09:22 PM
GUYS GUYS. this game is on ESPN3.com and Xbox Live ESPN.

Fillygt
12-25-2011, 09:56 PM
hey man, u should probably change your settings to maybe 20 posts or more per page. it will save u a lot of time having to go to that many pages.

How do you do that?:confused::confused:

robbnen#31
12-25-2011, 10:28 PM
Holy **** I've been a poster on here since 2007 and I never knew about that setting. Fillygt you need to go to your profile (click on your name) then it's under user cp then under the settings & options tab hit edit options. Scroll down and you can pick how many posts per page, I did the max 40.

lol, please
12-25-2011, 10:39 PM
Warriors pregame show :clap:

lol, please
12-25-2011, 10:41 PM
GUYS GUYS. this game is on ESPN3.com and Xbox Live ESPN.

It's also on regular ESPN and CSN BayArea ;)

robbnen#31
12-25-2011, 10:42 PM
Warriors pregame show :clap:

good call, better than watching the okc/orlando blowout or pack/bears game.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 10:54 PM
lol @ andris biedrins ****ing up 30 times in the pregame show

steveweve
12-25-2011, 10:55 PM
Who do you guys think will have the game of the night for our team, if there is one? I say Monta.

BrandoCommando
12-25-2011, 11:01 PM
I can't ****ing wait..

goldenstater
12-25-2011, 11:01 PM
GUYS GUYS. this game is on ESPN3.com and Xbox Live ESPN.

can we still watch it online on the local markets? i dont have cable.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:01 PM
Curry is in the starting lineup :clap:

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:02 PM
Who do you guys think will have the game of the night for our team, if there is one? I say Monta.

David Lee without question

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:04 PM
can we still watch it online on the local markets? i dont have cable.

I think so. I am using Xbox Live. **** tv. hate ads.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:04 PM
pumped

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:05 PM
David Lee without question

Hope your being sarcastic

robbnen#31
12-25-2011, 11:06 PM
Hope your being sarcastic

I agree, I think David Lee will have a huge game.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:07 PM
lol

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:07 PM
I hope so, but probably Not with Blake Griffin guarding him.

robbnen#31
12-25-2011, 11:08 PM
Just watching Klay talk to the media and he seems really nervous. I'm hoping it could just be some sort of social awkwardness/introverted nature opposed to nerves about the game.

BrandoCommando
12-25-2011, 11:08 PM
With Steph playing, I think we win.

robbnen#31
12-25-2011, 11:09 PM
I hope so, but probably Not with Blake Griffin guarding him.

I don't think Blake is the greatest defender. He gets a lot of hype due to his offense, but people just sort of throw in his defense as part of a package deal for his skill set. Clearly Lee can't guard Blake, but I don't think Blake will be able to guard Lee very well either.

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:09 PM
Hope your being sarcastic

Absolutely not, Lee will have a HUGE game, and season.
:clap: Go W's!

BrandoCommando
12-25-2011, 11:09 PM
Just watching Klay talk to the media and he seems really nervous. I'm hoping it could just be some sort of social awkwardness/introverted nature opposed to nerves about the game.

I seen that too. It was very weird/awkward.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:10 PM
^^ Hope your right. If I could choose any 2 players to perform at a higher level this year to add that extra power to push us into the playoffs, it'd be Lee & Biedrins need big seasons from them

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:11 PM
Yeah Thompson looked like he didn't have his breath when he was talking to the media, looked extremely nervous.

robbnen#31
12-25-2011, 11:11 PM
I seen that too. It was very weird/awkward.

Ya, he kept turning away towards the wall lol

BrandoCommando
12-25-2011, 11:12 PM
I like Mark Jackson.

What do u guys think of him?

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:13 PM
Just watching Klay talk to the media and he seems really nervous. I'm hoping it could just be some sort of social awkwardness/introverted nature opposed to nerves about the game.

I believe the technical term for it is Tetrahydrocannabinols or THC. It's the intoxicating chemical that phisically gets an individual "High" or stoned. We refer to it as Weed, Mary J, Dank, Pot, Grass, etc. :D

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:13 PM
**** can we just get to tip-off already?

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:14 PM
I like Mark Jackson.

What do u guys think of him?

he seems a bit dilusional

most teams are worried about upgrading their roster over the off season. He just says god determines whether he wins or loses, its out of his hands. I suppose thats accountability??

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:14 PM
I like Mark Jackson.

What do u guys think of him?

He is a leader, very inspiring, I like his confidence. I expect good things this year.
Remember, he is calling playoffs!

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:14 PM
Thunder-Magic game is so ****ing boring. They can't make a stupid shot...

BrandoCommando
12-25-2011, 11:14 PM
D Lee is wearing some sweet kicks.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:14 PM
I like Mark Jackson.

What do u guys think of him?

I like him as well, I really think he can turn our franchise around and into the right direction. Bringing in some defensive minded players and focusing on defense was a big step forward for this team.

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:15 PM
Ya, he kept turning away towards the wall lol

those interview questions are harder when your keyed

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:16 PM
This game is over. GO HOME, MAGIC.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:16 PM
Anyone see Kobe choke tonight haha

MackShock
12-25-2011, 11:16 PM
stylez, i never said i tell it like it is, i said i keep it real. theres a difference..

and realistically, they have a shot at the playoffs. so what else can i do but see what happens? its not like they have the playoffs in the bag or anything..

but you seem to be keen on the warriors not making it. in fact, youre willing to bet 1000 dollars with anybody on here that they wont...even though you know they have a good chance to..but my question is why? just keep the answer short and sweet..

the reality is, the warriors are 50/50 for the playoffs. im optimistic that they will, and you are pessimistic they wont...

BrandoCommando
12-25-2011, 11:17 PM
Beans is gonna have a good game. Except offensively.

BrandoCommando
12-25-2011, 11:19 PM
Watch out for Chris Wright.

D Wright is gonna bust some 3's

Udoh is gonna block some folks

Ellis is gonna beast it like always

etc etc

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:20 PM
I want Monta going off for 40+ and give the middle finger to the haters.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:23 PM
Hopefully Curry's ankle is fine tonight and we can pull out the W

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:24 PM
How do you guys think Brandon Rush will perform in his debut

MackShock
12-25-2011, 11:24 PM
and currys gonna get reinjured

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:24 PM
I want Monta going off for 40+ and give the middle finger to the haters.

Nah. all he needs to do is 25 and then pour in the assists. Curry needs to play like a PG. David Lee needs to get every rebound he can. Dorell needs to rebound and leak out and make threes and midrange shots. Ekpe needs to rebound and defend in post. Beans just get the ****ing rebounds.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:24 PM
bring on the wariorrssss!!! ahahaaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:25 PM
How do you guys think Brandon Rush will perform in his debut

4 points....

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:25 PM
curry just tweaked his ankle back peddling.... I dont know why people act like its a season ending injury or something. Most players would be back in 5 minutes later if they tweaked an ankle back peddling

MackShock
12-25-2011, 11:26 PM
sorry guys, i dont think im gonna be around..i have a song to record

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:26 PM
hun??

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:26 PM
there is so much hype about the clippers. Will the nba and the refs even allow the warriors to win this game??

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:26 PM
Nah. all he needs to do is 25 and then pour in the assists. Curry needs to play like a PG. David Lee needs to get every rebound he can. Dorell needs to rebound and leak out and make threes and midrange shots. Ekpe needs to rebound and defend in post. Beans just get the ****ing rebounds.

Nah Biedrins doesn't even have to get rebounds, how about he just attempts to not look stupid.:confused:

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:26 PM
ew. just saw Justin Beiber in an ad for Warriors/Clippers game...

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:27 PM
ahaaaaaaaaaaa!! end this game already!!!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:27 PM
Wait curry just tweaked his ankle? ****

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:27 PM
Nah Biedrins doesn't even have to get rebounds, how about he just attempts to not look stupid.:confused:

NO. All he needs to do is get rebounds. that is it. nothing else.

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:28 PM
Trainwreck and a 4Lokos... I am ready!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:28 PM
I think your messing with me

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:28 PM
Btw Beast game from Ryan Anderson. 22 points 9 rebounds...

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:29 PM
NO. All he needs to do is get rebounds. that is it. nothing else.

So you'd be okay with it if he came up with 8 rebounds while looking like a dumb **** out there? :laugh:

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:29 PM
Biedrins needs to drive slowly!!! hes fragile and we need him to stay with himself.. which means work within the offense and to not try and force anything.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:30 PM
Trainwreck and a 4Lokos... I am ready!

...

MackShock
12-25-2011, 11:30 PM
4 lokos got banned

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:31 PM
OMFG- fitz is saying there is a lot of change this off season!!! They have the same core that just failed to make the playoffs!!!

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:31 PM
here we go boys here we go

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:31 PM
So you'd be okay with it if he came up with 8 rebounds while looking like a dumb **** out there? :laugh:

yes. 8 rebounds is better than nothing.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:31 PM
Fitz...

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:32 PM
OMFG- fitz is saying there is a lot of change this off season!!! They have the same core that just failed to make the playoffs!!!

by change he means bench.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:32 PM
lol

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:32 PM
I am mother****ing ready!!! **** yeah!!!

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:33 PM
fitz who cares about the front office and acquiring a d league team... the organization needs to worry about putting out a better product.... seems like the owners are all more concerned with doing all kinds of crap. I mean half the time I dont even know what guber is babbling about...

just focus on winning games and thats it!!!! 17 of 18 yrs out of the playoffs should be all the motivation needed.... and their worried about a sound system in the arena and herry west playing well 40 yrs ago

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:33 PM
2 minutes until the end of this dreaded game of orlando and oklahoma

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:34 PM
Start the game!

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:34 PM
jim- you were optimistic the last 4 yrs

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:35 PM
4 lokos got banned

No way I just got one at the liquor store at Westlake. :confused:

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:35 PM
****!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:35 PM
Alright I'm pumped..

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:37 PM
Key matchups:

Curry - Paul
Lee - Griffin
DumbF.uc.k - Jordan

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:37 PM
I have ESPN and CSNBayarea but I am going to watch it on ESPN I like unbiased commentators

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:38 PM
Biedrins goes for a double double tonight!

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:39 PM
I have ESPN and CSNBayarea but I am going to watch it on ESPN I like unbiased commentators

they wil be biased towards the clippers cuz the clippers are hyped up

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:39 PM
Key matchups:

Curry - Paul
Lee - Griffin
DumbF.uc.k - Jordan

Ellis vs Billups. :D

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:39 PM
ahaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:41 PM
Lets gooo

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:41 PM
why are they babbling about currys ankle... he clearly said he wouldnt play on it unless it was 100%.... what else is he suppose to wait for? is it suppose to get to 150%??

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:41 PM
they wil be biased towards the clippers cuz the clippers are hyped up

I know, but if someone is going to eat crow and have to admit the W's are good, it's the ESPN crew I want to say it first :D

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:42 PM
what are they saying about the ankle????

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:43 PM
haha that is sooo dope

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:43 PM
its insanity over here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:43 PM
Whew, thought it would be longer.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:44 PM
Shakespeare!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:44 PM
I just got the shivers from that.

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:45 PM
Biedrins needs to go H.A.M

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:45 PM
udohs going to have a bigger year than people think..

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:46 PM
ive been on team udoh though since we drafted him.. mark these words..

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:46 PM
Game time! :clap:

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:47 PM
Biiieeeedrrrriiinnnsssssss hook baby!!

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:47 PM
ahhhhahhahahahhaaaa this is it!!! Biedrins!!!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:47 PM
keep it goin baby

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:47 PM
ive been on team udoh though since we drafted him.. mark these words..

I have been on his team since the preseason and I agree

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:47 PM
Biedridge with the hook

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:47 PM
Its on like a Klingon!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:48 PM
curry thats my boy!

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:48 PM
nice move by Beans...

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:48 PM
biedrins with the block!!! its his year guys!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:49 PM
i might just go pick up myself a #15 jersey!!

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:49 PM
Nice block by Biedrins nice basket by Ellis

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:49 PM
biedrins with the rebound! guys biedrins is everywhere.. lmfao

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:50 PM
great play by lee.

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:50 PM
Block by beans. Holey shiiet

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:50 PM
just gotta stop griffin we should be fine

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:51 PM
Beans is getting rebounds...

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:51 PM
nice pass by curry, thata boy biedrins!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:52 PM
anotherbiedrins rebound! HAHAHAHHA BIEDRINS WITH THE DUNK LMFAO!!!

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:52 PM
holly **** guys!!!

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:52 PM
get that **** out of here!!! i had to rewind a little.. just saw biedriins block!!

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:52 PM
O snap Biedrins :clap:

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:52 PM
**** it im ordering a Biedrins jersey right now

MackShock
12-25-2011, 11:52 PM
No way I just got one at the liquor store at Westlake. :confused:

yeah..its slowly getting phased out, it got banned not too long ago

steveweve
12-25-2011, 11:53 PM
jesus man.

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:53 PM
Biedrins is understanding what we need from him i think..

lol, please
12-25-2011, 11:53 PM
yeah..its slowly getting phased out, it got banned not too long ago

meh, its a once in a blue moon thing anyway with me, no big deal. :D

likemystylez
12-25-2011, 11:53 PM
is espn giving props?? or are they giving all the credit to jackson LOL

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:53 PM
he needs to be a talented energy guy like Noah!!!!

asandhu23
12-25-2011, 11:53 PM
6 points 4 rebounds 1 block. ****ING HELL!!!!

Monta is beast
12-25-2011, 11:54 PM
Who doubted my boy Andris Biedrins. **** yeah!

Fillygt
12-25-2011, 11:54 PM
Beans!!!!!! What!?:clap::clap::clap:

Monta is beast
12-25-2011, 11:54 PM
I told you guys, Andris is ****ing back!

COOLbeans
12-25-2011, 11:54 PM
NIce by Curry and Biedrins...

2000 posts.

Monta is beast
12-25-2011, 11:54 PM
**** the clippers