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kingbrentg
12-17-2011, 12:35 PM
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zo#33
12-17-2011, 12:54 PM
Rubio!

Kakaroach
12-17-2011, 01:06 PM
Brenty be balling. :D

Finally get to see Rubio in action and hopefully get a good look at the new Knicks.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 01:16 PM
The Magic have a live scrimmage that available on their website right now.

Von Wafer is the pre-season/practice MVP favorite right now. He's balling hard :laugh2:

Gators123
12-17-2011, 01:29 PM
I wish the Bucks/Wolves game was on NBATV.

GeekInThePink
12-17-2011, 01:35 PM
That Bucks logo is so sexy.

BranWingss
12-17-2011, 01:46 PM
Watched a bit of the Pistons/Cavs game last night. You could see how rusty these guys were. I'll probably catch that Knicks game in 15 minutes.

theheatles
12-17-2011, 02:36 PM
central time :eyebrow:

Punk
12-17-2011, 02:48 PM
I'm starting to really get annoyed at NBA TV. Ricky Rubio's first game in the NBA is overshadowed by Kevin McHale's first coaching game? C'mon now.

allSUAVE
12-17-2011, 02:59 PM
848 KNICKS WHOOOOAAAH ( JUELZ SANTANA ) VOICE lol

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:12 PM
Let's go Nets!! :sigh:......dallas misses you Tyson.

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:15 PM
TD looking good so far

Greet
12-17-2011, 03:17 PM
Air ball!!!!

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:17 PM
nets picked up the defense this year!

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:18 PM
D-Will!

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:21 PM
Both teams looking sloppy. Morrow has the touch early

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:21 PM
Extremely rusty ball

allSUAVE
12-17-2011, 03:22 PM
Knicks. Rusty as ****

kingbrentg
12-17-2011, 03:24 PM
Amar'e looks bigger to me

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:25 PM
Oh wow I thought new York didn't sign bibby?......well at least we get to see Shumpert.

Gators123
12-17-2011, 03:25 PM
Zomg the great iman shumpert is in!!!111!!!!

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:27 PM
Knicks fans, let me tell you this about Chandler......He struggles against all-star centers and Pfs, I'm telling you he wasn't worth all that money.

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:28 PM
:laugh:

Pre-season ball at it's best.

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:28 PM
Great defense from Chandler! :laugh:

kingbrentg
12-17-2011, 03:29 PM
Oh damn, Kobe Brooks

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:29 PM
Melo catchin fire!

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:30 PM
Lets see what the rookie's got

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:30 PM
Shumpert looks like an Ant-Eater.

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:31 PM
Jorts for 3!

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:32 PM
Knicks starting to find their groove

kingbrentg
12-17-2011, 03:33 PM
Kobe!

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:34 PM
Whao, what a move.

ChiSox219
12-17-2011, 03:34 PM
Knicks need new uniforms.

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:34 PM
Damian!! Where the **** you been?

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:35 PM
Brook!

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:36 PM
Brook Lopez definitely looks a lot stronger this year. you can tell how that Mono affected him last year. He isnt getting pushed around as much

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:39 PM
Shumpert looks good! Knicks might have gotten another steal.

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:39 PM
Rusty quarter overall but not bad.

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:40 PM
Knicks need new uniforms.

Agreed. Hopefully next season we go back to the classics.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:41 PM
BTW maybe they are just rusty or the maybe the Nets are doing a good job slowing down the tempo but this is definitely not Mike Antoni ball.

metsfanssince05
12-17-2011, 03:42 PM
Wow Iman look great out there. And its something us Knicks fans where saying... He never had a great feel for his shot but now he seems like he really improved it! 5 points (could of had 8 if Jorts didnt foul)

marj987
12-17-2011, 03:42 PM
Shumpert might take Landrys minutes but I bet nobody knew who he was until he was drafted.

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:46 PM
Shumpert!

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:48 PM
BTW maybe they are just rusty or the maybe the Nets are doing a good job slowing down the tempo but this is definitely not Mike Antoni ball.

We haven't played uptempo like PHX since 2008 lol

kingbrentg
12-17-2011, 03:50 PM
Shumpert looks pretty solid so far

allSUAVE
12-17-2011, 03:50 PM
Brook Lopez improved looking good for his first game

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:52 PM
Wow still not a single mention of Dwight Howard. Im impressed.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 03:52 PM
Shumpert is looking great. Showing many aspects of his game. Passing the ball well. His shot looks great and he is playing solid defense.

Punk
12-17-2011, 03:55 PM
Shump Shump is the real deal. Now bench Douglas, please.

allSUAVE
12-17-2011, 03:57 PM
When Douglas dont make shots he's useless

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:00 PM
Melo doing well at Point Forward so far.

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:02 PM
Melo with a no look pass

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:02 PM
Beautiful pass

Khalifa21
12-17-2011, 04:03 PM
I think today's game is evidence of how helpful a healthy Baron Davis would be.

Start him at the point, let him mentor Iman and have Iman as the backup PG. Put Toney back in his 6th man role and have him play the majority of his minutes at the 2.

Khalifa21
12-17-2011, 04:04 PM
I'm liking how Melo's been playing as more of a distributor. I've always thought he's an underrated passer in terms of ability, he just didn't pass enough.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:09 PM
Tony Douglas is horrible today

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:11 PM
I fully expect Lopez to get back to 8-9 rebounds a game this year...

Not having that rebound-whore (and whore in general) Humphries on the team would help

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:12 PM
Not bad of a half but Douglas is not even showing any court vision and that is annoying. Might as well get Baron to NJ and suit up ASAP.

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 04:13 PM
dERON NEEDS help he has some good passes but no one on his team is reliable only morrow, M brooks and Lopez

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:13 PM
Not bad of a half but Douglas is not even showing any court vision and that is annoying. Might as well get Baron to NJ and suit up ASAP.

ASAP probably wouldn't be too soon anyways...he's not healthy.

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:16 PM
ASAP probably wouldn't be too soon anyways...he's not healthy.

A Baron with a cane or in a wheelchair is better than Toney Douglas at PG and passing the ball.

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 04:16 PM
I Know nets would laught but i hope we get Travis outlaw to Take jj MINUTES

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 04:17 PM
A Baron with a cane or in a wheelchair is better than Toney Douglas at PG and passing the ball.

TD is more of a 6 man we all knew TD isn't a good PG so i don't know why people is bash him.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:22 PM
@netw3rk
New rule: only teams in cities with less than 8 million people may get excited about their rookies.

Agreed!

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:28 PM
Melo found the range

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:30 PM
Melo is passing so well

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:31 PM
Brook looks good. Definitely not the same weak unmotivated guy from last year

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:32 PM
We need a new PG even if Melo is playing Point Forward because that was terrible

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:32 PM
Damion James is playing very solid defense

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:36 PM
At least for one game... Brook is defending and rebounding!! :speechless: Already 13 and 10

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:36 PM
Insanely sloppy game.

VinceCarter
12-17-2011, 04:37 PM
At least for one game... Brook is defending and rebounding!! :speechless:

He has 10 rebounds I think :speechless:

YoungOne
12-17-2011, 04:37 PM
yeah, lopez lookin' good, hope he keeps it up!

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:38 PM
It's remarkable how poor Toney Douglas' court vision is.

CeeDub15
12-17-2011, 04:38 PM
How do you expect the game not to be sloppy?

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 04:41 PM
i like morrow

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:43 PM
Loving Damion James today. Playing tough defense and with so much energy. Glad to see him healthy

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:43 PM
Hopefully the bench gets more time now.

VinceCarter
12-17-2011, 04:44 PM
i like morrow

I love Morrow. I would actually be kind of mad if he was in a trade for Dwight.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:44 PM
I would maybe not kill myself if we got Lopez, James, Brooks and Morrow for Dwight...

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:44 PM
i like morrow

Loving Shumpert. Thought you gys were hyping him up like you do with every rook but he looks great. With the exceotion of the TO just now he has played a great game with no mistakes

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:46 PM
Damion James forcing turnovers. Im really loving this guy

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:46 PM
See the defense? Expect more

VinceCarter
12-17-2011, 04:46 PM
Niceeee Brooks

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:48 PM
Mmmm man MarShon Brooks shot is so smooth and silky. He is so Kobelicious. How did that guy slip to 24th?

VinceCarter
12-17-2011, 04:48 PM
I would maybe not kill myself if we got Lopez, James, Brooks and Morrow for Dwight...

:cry: The sacrifices but we are talking about Dwight :sigh:

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:49 PM
Iman looks nice. Playing within the game.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:50 PM
Harrellson, Jeffries and Balkman frontcourt will give the league nightmares.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:51 PM
Loving Shumpert. Thought you gys were hyping him up like you do with every rook but he looks great. With the exceotion of the TO just now he has played a great game with no mistakes

That's why i like the "No city with 8+ million people can hype their rookies" rule...

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:52 PM
Balkman is working hard. Finally. It took years.

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 04:52 PM
Mmmm man MarShon Brooks shot is so smooth and silky. He is so Kobelicious. How did that guy slip to 24th?

Brooks VS iamn rivalry might be legit

billsftw
12-17-2011, 04:52 PM
whats with deron???

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:54 PM
That's why i like the "No city with 8+ million people can hype their rookies" rule...

So, how long until "No city with 900,000 people can act like their star will stay" rule?

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 04:54 PM
Harrellson, Jeffries and Balkman frontcourt will give the league nightmares.

:facepalm: Maybe on defense

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:55 PM
I would maybe not kill myself if we got Lopez, James, Brooks and Morrow for Dwight...

Damn.. i luv ya but ugh.. damn im loving Mr Kobelicious Brooks

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:55 PM
Brooks VS iamn rivalry might be legit

Agreed. Iman is looking so solid

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:56 PM
That's why i like the "No city with 8+ million people can hype their rookies" rule...

LOL truuu

Corey
12-17-2011, 04:56 PM
Jees, I thought Harrellson was David Lee for a second.

But then I saw him playing defense.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 04:56 PM
So, how long until "No city with 900,000 people can act like their star will stay" rule?

I don't think most of us do. But nice bait!

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:57 PM
Harrelson is so tough

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 04:57 PM
I would maybe not kill myself if we got Lopez, James, Brooks and Morrow for Dwight...

uh, we better not do that. Dwight is leaving anyway and he wants the Nets. Why would we make the same mistake the Knicks did with Melo?

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:57 PM
Petro is so useless SMH

Punk
12-17-2011, 04:57 PM
:laugh: Nets players trying to stat pad

BranWingss
12-17-2011, 04:58 PM
Missed the Knicks game, but will probably try and catch a bit of the Kings/Warriors game tonight.

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 04:58 PM
Lopez, Graham, Petro, and S&T Outlaw for Dwight?

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 04:58 PM
uh, we better not do that. Dwight is leaving anyway and he wants the Nets. Why would we make the same mistake the Knicks did with Melo?

I hope people ignore your post. Nets are not the only team in the running SMH Like it or not we will have to pay an arm and leg for Dwight

5ass
12-17-2011, 04:59 PM
balkman has a beautiful smile..

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 04:59 PM
Anyone notice balkman ?

marj987
12-17-2011, 05:00 PM
Harrellson, Jeffries and Balkman frontcourt will give the league nightmares.

You mean front courts will give THEM nightmares.

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:00 PM
:laugh: Balkman looking like Gerald Wallace

justinnum1
12-17-2011, 05:00 PM
i like brooks

ManRam
12-17-2011, 05:01 PM
Is Shumpert's vision really any better than Douglas' as this point? He seems slightly more decisive, but besides that, it doesn't look really any better.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 05:02 PM
You mean front courts will give THEM nightmares.

I was being 100% serious when I made that post!!!

(since sarcasm doesn't translate online, I was being sarcastic both originally and right there)

marj987
12-17-2011, 05:03 PM
What's say you Lopez haters now?

marj987
12-17-2011, 05:03 PM
I was being 100% serious when I made that post!!!

(since sarcasm doesn't translate online, I was being sarcastic both originally and right there)

I was just kidding bro.....

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:04 PM
I was being 100% serious when I made that post!!!

(since sarcasm doesn't translate online, I was being sarcastic both originally and right there)

You fail at sarcasm. They thought you were serious.

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:04 PM
What's say you Lopez haters now?

What the hell are you? A dallas fan or a Nets fan? lol

ManRam
12-17-2011, 05:04 PM
What's say you Lopez haters now?

It's a pre-season game...

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:06 PM
What's say you Lopez haters now?

Its one game but i agree. I have nothing bad to say about him today. He looks very solid. Playing great defense, blocking shots, rebounding, scoring. He looks like a top 5 C today

CousinsEvansDUO
12-17-2011, 05:06 PM
I'm definitely watching the warriors/kings game. Can't wait to destroy them at their own court and kill them at our own arena back to back.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:07 PM
It's a pre-season game...

x2

ManRam
12-17-2011, 05:07 PM
I do think last season was more of an aberration than the first two were...meaning I do think he's still a top 5 center in this league. His rebounding will bounce back...whatever happened last year was just a fluke.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:07 PM
Shumpert with 14 solid points

marj987
12-17-2011, 05:07 PM
What the hell are you? A dallas fan or a Nets fan? lol

Both.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:08 PM
I do think last season was more of an aberration than the first two were...meaning I do think he's still a top 5 center in this league. His rebounding will bounce back...whatever happened last year was just a fluke.

Yea Mononucleosis is a beyatch

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:08 PM
The Nets should have signed Jeffries

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:09 PM
Both.

:pity:

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 05:10 PM
avery is a smart mother ****er hide brooks talent from he magics Smart

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:11 PM
I hope people ignore your post. Nets are not the only team in the running SMH Like it or not we will have to pay an arm and leg for Dwight

Well, I'm glad your not the Nets GM. Lopez, James, Brooks and Morrow plus picks (I'm assuming they will want the 2012 picks too) is way too much, especially later in the season. The longer the Magic wait, the more leverage we get. Our players numbers will improve because of Dwill, Magic will be pressured since they don't want to lose him for nothing, and who knows how Bynum will hold up. Brook, Farmar, James, and 2 1st round picks should be enough. If they want Morrow too, then they should take back Petro. You like to undervalue our players, but I don't tell people to ignore your posts.

marj987
12-17-2011, 05:11 PM
:pity:

Problem? I'm no bandwagoner.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:12 PM
Will the Minny game be televised anywhere? I wanna watch Rubio

VinceCarter
12-17-2011, 05:13 PM
Well, I'm glad your not the Nets GM. Lopez, James, Brooks and Morrow plus picks (I'm assuming they will want the 2012 picks too) is way too much, especially later in the season. The longer the Magic wait, the more leverage we get. Our players numbers will improve because of Dwill, Magic will be pressured since they don't want to lose him for nothing, and who knows how Bynum will hold up. Brook, Farmar, James, and 2 1st round picks should be enough. If they want Morrow too, then they should take back Petro. You like to undervalue our players, but I don't tell people to ignore your posts.

This. We don't want to bid against outselves....

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:14 PM
Problem? I'm no bandwagoner.

I never said such words. Feeling guilty?

marj987
12-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Will the Minny game be televised anywhere? I wanna watch Rubio

I thinks it's gonna be on NBA tv.

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Jorts is playing nicely

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Well, I'm glad your not the Nets GM. Lopez, James, Brooks and Morrow plus picks (I'm assuming they will want the 2012 picks too) is way too much, especially later in the season. The longer the Magic wait, the more leverage we get. Our players numbers will improve because of Dwill, Magic will be pressured since they don't want to lose him for nothing, and who knows how Bynum will hold up. Brook, Farmar, James, and 2 1st round picks should be enough. If they want Morrow too, then they should take back Petro. You like to undervalue our players, but I don't tell people to ignore your posts.

Lakers are in this too. If they bid Gasol and Bynum we will HAVE to basically include everyone to match up. Unless Brook Lopez keeps up this level of play

VinceCarter
12-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Brooks wowwwwww. Please keep him!!!

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:15 PM
Brooks is nice

tredigs
12-17-2011, 05:16 PM
You can't pump and jump into the player to draw a foul this year!!!

Also, no intentional quick swing of the ball through the defenders hands to draw an easy 2 foul shots (the move KD perfected). I have been calling for this change for half a decade, no clue how it took this long, but either way we now have a better league as a result.

As an aside, I don't think Durant wins the scoring title this year. He'll adapt accordingly, but I think that costs him 2-3 points a game on average.

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 05:16 PM
I think after deron brooks might be the second best player on that team. This kid scares me

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:16 PM
But a message to Nets fans: Whenever you get excited about a rookie and you are in position to trade for a star....You will lose him.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:17 PM
avery is a smart mother ****er hide brooks talent from he magics Smart

SMH thats hard and i dont think the strategy will work. Did you SEE that shot just now?! Ridiculous. He has such Kobe swagg

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:19 PM
SMH thats hard and i dont think the strategy will work. Did you SEE that shot just now?! Ridiculous. He has such Kobe swagg

We better not lose him.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:19 PM
You can't pump and jump into the player to draw a foul this year!!!

Also, no intentional quick swing of the ball through the defenders hands to draw an easy 2 foul shots (the move KD perfected). I have been calling for this change for half a decade, no clue how it took this long, but either way we now have a better league as a result.

As an aside, I don't think Durant wins the scoring title this year. He'll adapt accordingly, but I think that costs him 2-3 points a game on average.

DWade and PPierce are crying. I hate their "sissy pump fake lean in draw a foul" move. They had to change that

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:20 PM
But a message to Nets fans: Whenever you get excited about a rookie and you are in position to trade for a star....You will lose him.

not necessarily. you guys didn't trade fields for melo, did you?

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 05:21 PM
SMH thats hard and i dont think the strategy will work. Did you SEE that shot just now?! Ridiculous. He has such Kobe swagg

He has that type of aura cold blooded assassin

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:22 PM
Lakers are in this too. If they bid Gasol and Bynum we will HAVE to basically include everyone to match up. Unless Brook Lopez keeps up this level of play

What percentage do you give for Bynum playing 50 or more games this year?
Remember, it's a short season with a compressed schedule. Isn't Bynum already out for the first week or something?

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:22 PM
He has that type of aura cold blooded assassin

Our big three will be Dwill, Howard, and Brooks!!! :p

We better keep him.

justinnum1
12-17-2011, 05:22 PM
brooks is going to be a beast

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:26 PM
not necessarily. you guys didn't trade fields for melo, did you?

We traded away Mozgov who started to blossom before the trade. Then Fields value dropped, so It was losing a good rookie.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:26 PM
What percentage do you give for Bynum playing 50 or more games this year?
Remember, it's a short season with a compressed schedule. Isn't Bynum already out for the first week or something?

Eh i dont think Bynum will ever stay healthy. However its about the potential. If it makes you feel better, Lopez plays like this thru the season there is no way ORL passes on him

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:28 PM
We traded away Mozgov who started to blossom before the trade. Then Fields value dropped, so It was losing a good rookie.

Im with ya. There is no way that ORL will not ask for MarShon Brooks. They will demand him. Only way that the Nets keep him is if Dwight makes it known he will not resign with the Lakers

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:29 PM
Eh i dont think Bynum will ever stay healthy. However its about the potential. If it makes you feel better, Lopez plays like this thru the season there is no way ORL passes on him

What makes you think he won't? I know Bynum is very good, but I think Lopez is better.

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:32 PM
Im with ya. There is no way that ORL will not ask for MarShon Brooks. They will demand him. Only way that the Nets keep him is if Dwight makes it known he will not resign with the Lakers

Then we tell them he is untouchable. I don't see where Orlando is getting all of this leverage from.

VillaMaravilla
12-17-2011, 05:40 PM
if im orlando i give Dwight to NJ, Lopez looks like he is getting better and Brooks is going to be a really good player add some picks and Oraldno comes out like bandits

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:42 PM
What makes you think he won't? I know Bynum is very good, but I think Lopez is better.

History shows that 7fters with knee injuries never stay healthy. He has had how many surgeries at 24ys old? I just dont think he will ever stay healthy. The Lakers should limit his minutes and not risk his value plummeting because of injury.

Whether Bynum is healthy or not... if Lopez plays strong like this the whole year i guarantee ORL will choose him over Bynum. Lopez really impressed me tonight. Defended great. Battled for boards. Didnt get pushed around by Chandler. Scored well. 5 blocks. Then again he always burns the Knicks so we will see

However if Lopez starts sucking again and proves to still be a poor rebounder and Bynum stays healthy, Dwight will be a Laker

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:43 PM
if im orlando i give Dwight to NJ, Lopez looks like he is getting better and Brooks is going to be a really good player add some picks and Oraldno comes out like bandits

nooooooooo!

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:43 PM
Then we tell them he is untouchable. I don't see where Orlando is getting all of this leverage from.

Believe it or not, Dwight and Paul are the type of players who would respectfully want value back to Orlando. So, there is no hard feelings. Dwight has leverage but the Paul trade was an example of a player not using his.

So, do not be surprised if they want Brooks and Lopez in a package for Dwight.

Rndy
12-17-2011, 05:44 PM
Then we tell them he is untouchable. I don't see where Orlando is getting all of this leverage from.

Where are the nets getting this leverage from? Why because their one of three teams Dwight will go to?

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:45 PM
History shows that 7fters with knee injuries never stay healthy. He has had how many surgeries at 24ys old? I just dont think he will ever stay healthy. The Lakers should limit his minutes and not risk his value plummeting because of injury.

Whether Bynum is healthy or not... if Lopez plays strong like this the whole year i guarantee ORL will choose him over Bynum.

However if Lopez starts sucking again and proves to still be a poor rebounder and Bynum stays healthy, Dwight will be a Laker

When I said what makes you think he won't, I was referring to Lopez improving.

VinceCarter
12-17-2011, 05:47 PM
Where are the nets getting this leverage from? Why because their one of three teams Dwight will go to?

Because what other offers of the Magic getting?

JayStar-8
12-17-2011, 05:47 PM
Where are the nets getting this leverage from? Why because their one of three teams Dwight will go to?

They are the main team he wants to go to.

As the season progresses, the Nets will only gain leverage.

Punk
12-17-2011, 05:48 PM
Where are the nets getting this leverage from? Why because their one of three teams Dwight will go to?

Exactly. The Lakers package is actually way better for the Magic because Gasol/Bynum would sell tickets and probably keep the Magic a playoff team considering they must sell that new arena.

If the Nets try and refuse to throw in certain players, the Magic can call LA and make a deal.

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:49 PM
Then we tell them he is untouchable. I don't see where Orlando is getting all of this leverage from.

From the fact that they have a top 3 player in the league, the best and most dominant C in the league, and the 3x defensive player of the year. Combined with the fact that Dwight has been flip-flopping on his demand as well as the fact that he is also interested in LA.

If Dwight pulls a Melo and demands a trade to only NJ like Melo did for the Knicks then i can hop on your happy train. As of now thou i dont think Dwight has the balls to make such a demand, thereby giving ORL leverage to demand what they want. I agree thou. MarShon Brooks looks great

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 05:52 PM
When I said what makes you think he won't, I was referring to Lopez improving.

Oh.. well as to that i cant predict. I have faith that Lopez is a lot better than he showed last year. His conditioning was so off and he was so skinny. I think he will prove to be a top 5 C this year and improve his stock a lot. Will he improve enough to make ORL jump at the chance to get him? idk and cant tell from this preseason game.

Keep in mind that for whatever reason Lopez always burns the Knicks

Rndy
12-17-2011, 05:53 PM
Because what other offers of the Magic getting?

If Nets aren't putting in Brooks then the Magic could get better offers. Lopez is a Center who has a career 13 trb% not exactly impressive.

NYsFinest
12-17-2011, 06:03 PM
shumo and brooms both looked very impressive. looklike steals that can very well be in the ROY discussionthis year.

Slimsim
12-17-2011, 06:04 PM
If I'm NJ I would do everything in my power to keep that kid

Crackadalic
12-17-2011, 06:07 PM
Brooks really reminds me of a young Kobe. Thats scary to me. Brooklyn is gonna love him if he is traded for Dwight

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 06:08 PM
shumo and brooms both looked very impressive. looklike steals that can very well be in the ROY discussionthis year.

:hi5: Letsss get emmm

Chill_Will_24
12-17-2011, 06:09 PM
Anyone have a gif of that crazy shot he made?

Twista
12-17-2011, 09:01 PM
umm...is NBA TV not working for anyone else?

Gators123
12-17-2011, 09:05 PM
lol Testing!

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:07 PM
Bucks timberwolves channel 675 for direct tv.

Twista
12-17-2011, 09:09 PM
even the networks are in preseason form. Last night WGN kept ****ing up the broadcast, now NBA TV is just a black screen. And just in time for the game! wonderful.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:13 PM
My god drew goo den and Bogut lost a ton of weight.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:15 PM
Bucks still showing how their one of the top defensive teams...

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:25 PM
Here come Ricky and.........:sigh:.........JJ Barea.....

5ass
12-17-2011, 09:30 PM
ricky rubio sounds and looks like speedy gonzales

Twista
12-17-2011, 09:32 PM
How do Rubio and Derrick Williams look? Keep me posted :)

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:32 PM
Rubio's first dime

ManRam
12-17-2011, 09:35 PM
Not sure how good this Minny team will be...but they have a lot of fun young players to watch. Definitely going to get some attention from me all year.

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:36 PM
Wow what a layup from ricky

zo#33
12-17-2011, 09:37 PM
Not sure how good this Minny team will be...but they have a lot of fun young players to watch. Definitely going to get some attention from me all year.

I think they will be one of my league pass favorites.

Rubio has been impressive

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:37 PM
Derrick Williams hasn't played not one minute yet.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 09:39 PM
I'm officially on the Rubio badnwagon

CousinsEvansDUO
12-17-2011, 09:41 PM
Derrick Williams needs to get traded to the Kings. The wolves don't appreciate him enough and the kings NEED him.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:41 PM
Is that Bonzi Wells?? :laugh:...

JohnnyOutcast
12-17-2011, 09:41 PM
Bonzi Wells ?!?!?!?!?

ManRam
12-17-2011, 09:41 PM
BONZI!!!

Looking as chunky as ever.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:42 PM
Rubio and Barea plays almost exactly the same.....except Ruby knows how to play defense..

Corey
12-17-2011, 09:42 PM
Rubio and Barea at the same time is going to be very fun to watch

Twista
12-17-2011, 09:43 PM
I'm officially on the Rubio badnwagon

I had a feeling he was gonna come over here and play well. He's fun to watch. Next Rondo maybe?

Corey
12-17-2011, 09:43 PM
Livingston looks like he's fully healthy again. He's got a lot of explosiveness back.

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:43 PM
Derrick Williams needs to get traded to the Kings. The wolves don't appreciate him enough and the kings NEED him.

:laugh:

No you don't

Corey
12-17-2011, 09:43 PM
I had a feeling he was gonna come over here and play well. He's fun to watch. Next Rondo maybe?

I honestly think this is an insult to Rubio's jumper.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 09:44 PM
I had a feeling he was gonna come over here and play well. He's fun to watch. Next Rondo maybe?

I haven't seen enough of him to really make any comparisons.

I doubt he'd be as good defensively, and I'm sure he can shoot it a lot better. Nash-lite?

Corey
12-17-2011, 09:44 PM
I'm getting hyped about Livingston right now.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:44 PM
Derrick Williams needs to get traded to the Kings. The wolves don't appreciate him enough and the kings NEED him.

What happened to cousins being better than Dwight?

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:45 PM
Livingston got his grove back

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:46 PM
I haven't seen enough of him to really make any comparisons.

I doubt he'd be as good defensively, and I'm sure he can shoot it a lot better. Nash-lite?

Actually, Rubio is playing legitimate defense out there.

JohnnyOutcast
12-17-2011, 09:46 PM
Jon Leuer looking impressive

Corey
12-17-2011, 09:47 PM
Actually, Rubio is playing legitimate defense out there.
He doesn't have the quickness or length to be the defender that Rondo is, in reference to the original comparison.

I think he can be serviceable though.

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:47 PM
What's the deal with D-Will? No PT yet

Twista
12-17-2011, 09:48 PM
I haven't seen enough of him to really make any comparisons.

I doubt he'd be as good defensively, and I'm sure he can shoot it a lot better. Nash-lite?

I never heard of Rubio being described as a good shooter. He's quick and wily, he makes jaw-dropping passes but I don't think he's ever been a great scorer. I don't see Nash in him. More of a Rondo.

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:51 PM
D will!

Corey
12-17-2011, 09:53 PM
I never heard of Rubio being described as a good shooter. He's quick and wily, he makes jaw-dropping passes but I don't think he's ever been a great scorer. I don't see Nash in him. More of a Rondo.

Not really like Rondo.

Rondo rebounds as well as anyone his size, he's got very good court vision, and his offense is strictly based of driving the lane.

Rubio isn't a very good rebounder, he's quick..but not the type of quick that will straight up blow by you -- he's elusive, he'll take a lot of jumpers, but it's not his strength.

Rubio has a more natural jumper than Rondo by a wide margin. Doesn't mean he's a great shooter, but Rondo's jumper is that bad.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:53 PM
He doesn't have the quickness or length to be the defender that Rondo is, in reference to the original comparison.

I think he can be serviceable though.

Yeah, all he has to do is get a bit stronger, but he's moving his feet and putting his hand in peoples faces.......
Oh no, Rubys hurt......

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:54 PM
Ricky injured himselff there

ManRam
12-17-2011, 09:54 PM
I never heard of Rubio being described as a good shooter. He's quick and wily, he makes jaw-dropping passes but I don't think he's ever been a great scorer. I don't see Nash in him. More of a Rondo.

Like I said, I haven't seen more than a few minutes of live play from him in my life...so I really don't know. Nash is one of the greatest 3 point shooters ever, so obviously he won't reach Nash-status...but being better than Rondo in that regard doesn't take much.

Maybe Rondo is a better comparison. Again, I really just don't know.

nbadraft.net says Nash/Calderon

draftexpress says a plus of his is his 3 point shooting percentage.

So IDK.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:56 PM
Mike dunleavy has his groove back!
d will a three! This is getting good!

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:56 PM
Derrick has a sexy stroke

5ass
12-17-2011, 09:58 PM
i like this t-wolves team, still think they need to trade one of johnson/beasley/williams/randolph for a decent center, or sign one in FA

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:59 PM
Has Brandon Jennings scored yet?

CousinsEvansDUO
12-17-2011, 09:59 PM
Williams for Whiteside/salmons/garcia and 2012 1st round pick. He will be our SF.

marj987
12-17-2011, 09:59 PM
Wolves has a pretty deep roster.

Punk
12-17-2011, 09:59 PM
Derrick sorta a reminds me of Granger

marj987
12-17-2011, 10:00 PM
Williams for Whiteside/salmons/garcia and 2012 1st round pick. He will be our SF.

:laugh:

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:01 PM
3s are raining

ManRam
12-17-2011, 10:03 PM
I've always loved Ridnour (go ducks)...but he, Beasley, Love, Wes, Dark, Bonzi, Webster, Ellington, Rubio, Derrick and JJ are all guys I'm excited to watch and see how they do. A cool team they got here.

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:03 PM
Love is on fire

b_rad23
12-17-2011, 10:04 PM
Can someone send me a link (PM or VM) for a website that shows NBA games streamed online? I forgot all the ones I used to check. Appreciate it.

marj987
12-17-2011, 10:04 PM
I can see the Wolves in as a sixth seed team.

bholly
12-17-2011, 10:05 PM
With the weight loss and the haircut and bad stream quality, I keep looking at Bogut and thinking it's Adam Morrison.


Williams for Whiteside/salmons/garcia and 2012 1st round pick. He will be our SF.

An unprotected 2012 might get that done if you drop Salmons, but if you're thinking of protecting it you're dreaming. Whiteside has throw-in value, and Salmons and Garcia might even have negative value with their contracts. You're talking about the 2011 #2 pick here.

Edit: also you owe your 2012 first rounder to Cleveland.

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:07 PM
I think they should play small ball. Love and Wiliams spreading the floor is a problem

ChiSox219
12-17-2011, 10:09 PM
That play by Dragic was ridiculous.

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:10 PM
Love with 15 & 10 already

And people called him a one season wonder lol

marj987
12-17-2011, 10:10 PM
Does Derrick Williams have a GF?

CousinsEvansDUO
12-17-2011, 10:11 PM
Wow the wolves are really impressive. Dropping 3's like nothing.

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:13 PM
The wolves playing PHX 2006 ball lol

MJ-BULLS
12-17-2011, 10:14 PM
Love is a beast. Shooting 3's like nothing.

justinnum1
12-17-2011, 10:16 PM
wolves look decent

natelpete
12-17-2011, 10:21 PM
Beasley!! Smokin trees and strokin 3s

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:22 PM
The rockets need to try getting Dwight because they need a big for McHale to really coach

ManRam
12-17-2011, 10:25 PM
I really think the Wolves won't even be close to contending for that worst record...

#OverreactionsAfterOnePreseasonGame

But seriously. I like a lot of things about this team. Too young tho.

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:28 PM
99% shooting from 3. Wow.

natelpete
12-17-2011, 10:29 PM
I really think the Wolves won't even be close to contending for that worst record...

#OverreactionsAfterOnePreseasonGame

But seriously. I like a lot of things about this team. Too young tho.

I don't think anyone is saying they will be any time soon, they are just looking nice right now.

Chacarron
12-17-2011, 10:33 PM
Dunleavy is having a nice game.

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:34 PM
:laugh:


I really think the Wolves won't even be close to contending for that worst record...

#OverreactionsAfterOnePreseasonGame

But seriously. I like a lot of things about this team. Too young tho.

OKC and Philly say hi.

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:37 PM
:laugh: The spurs getting raped hard

ManRam
12-17-2011, 10:37 PM
I don't think anyone is saying they will be any time soon, they are just looking nice right now.

No, I totally agree. I really like this team.

b_rad23
12-17-2011, 10:38 PM
Love looks great.

DragonJaii
12-17-2011, 10:38 PM
Can you watch preseason games on league pass broadband?

kdspurman
12-17-2011, 10:49 PM
:laugh: The spurs getting raped hard

easy there you know it's pre season right? and tony and tim aren't playing lol it's a practice game to see who makes the roster basically

Punk
12-17-2011, 10:53 PM
Rubio looks good. Sexy passes and creating open shots. He is legit.

b_rad23
12-17-2011, 10:57 PM
Rubio-Williams-Love will be formidable.

If they move one of those high upside wings for a C, they will be nice.

Hellcrooner
12-17-2011, 10:57 PM
Any hater ready to change their stupid ignorant previews bout Rubio?

hasnt look this comfortable on the court for two years.

ManRam
12-17-2011, 10:59 PM
Any hater ready to change their stupid ignorant previews bout Rubio?

hasnt look this comfortable on the court for two years.

A) It's one pre-season game
B) He's like 4-6-3...which isn't bad at all, especially since he's only played 15 minutes...but still
C) Deep breaths!

Hellcrooner
12-17-2011, 11:02 PM
A) It's one pre-season game
B) He's like 4-6-3...which isn't bad at all, especially since he's only played 15 minutes...but still
C) Deep breaths!

A) yep, go figure in two months when he is more accustomed to the league, and his mates figure out what do do with his passes

B) Steals, assits, rebounds, the compelte package, and his shooter actually lookes improved, lockout served for somethign i guess.

C) yep

ManRam
12-17-2011, 11:08 PM
A) yep, go figure in two months when he is more accustomed to the league, and his mates figure out what do do with his passes

B) Steals, assits, rebounds, the compelte package, and his shooter actually lookes improved, lockout served for somethign i guess.

C) yep

I'll admit that I didn't know what to expect, because unlike a lot of guys here I'll admit when I haven't seen enough of someone to judge for myself...

I'm impressed for sure though. I never though he couldn't succeed (again, I don't know enough about him) but I wasn't sure either way. Only time will tell.