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lavarius
12-16-2011, 12:38 PM
i saw Miami Chicago outter the east an the west lakers mavs Memphis or thunder

knicks=love
12-16-2011, 12:43 PM
don't you mean "and".. :facepalm:

Slimsim
12-16-2011, 12:53 PM
Bulls

Thnder

Nycbball08
12-16-2011, 12:55 PM
i saw Miami Chicago outter the east an the west lakers mavs Memphis or thunder

Don't you mean " say"...lol

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 12:57 PM
i saw Miami Chicago outter the east an the west lakers mavs Memphis or thunder

"outter" WTF?

And to answer the question I think your thread is asking, the favorites have to be Miami and Oklahoma City. Any other answer is incorrect.

Nycbball08
12-16-2011, 01:00 PM
If we pick up a healthy B Diddy in march ....Knicks / can't call the west right now..

THE GIPPER
12-16-2011, 01:04 PM
Heat and Thunder. I expect huge improvment from ibaka. my pick for MIP

DeShaun Brown
12-16-2011, 01:05 PM
Miami vs OKC unless Howard goes to a surprise (contending) team.

pebloemer
12-16-2011, 01:05 PM
Heat and Mavs/Thunder

I feel obligated to put the Mavs there as their defending champions. Without Chandler/Barea, I do think Thunder will jump in.

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:08 PM
HEATS and OKC or LA (if they get D12) if not then no way okc is loosing the west

ChicagoJ
12-16-2011, 01:09 PM
Chicago and OKC

--23--
12-16-2011, 01:09 PM
Bulls and Thunder

THE_G.O.A.T.
12-16-2011, 01:14 PM
Bulls and Clippers

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:16 PM
i still dont see how most people are picking the bulls they couldnt even beat miami with wade haslem and mike miller hurt how can they beat them wen their all healthy

THE_G.O.A.T.
12-16-2011, 01:17 PM
Lakers will be a 6th seed and go out in the first round this year.

THE_G.O.A.T.
12-16-2011, 01:18 PM
i still dont see how most people are picking the bulls they couldnt even beat miami with wade haslem and mike miller hurt how can they beat them wen their all healthy

The Heat aren't near as deep as the Bulls which will be important in this compacted season.

Twista
12-16-2011, 01:19 PM
i still dont see how most people are picking the bulls they couldnt even beat miami with wade haslem and mike miller hurt how can they beat them wen their all healthy

Da Bulls had plenty of hurt players too, Mr. Heat homer.

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 01:20 PM
If we pick up a healthy B Diddy in march ....Knicks / can't call the west right now..


Chicago and OKC


Bulls and Thunder
Hmm... And I'm sure the fact that you're all fans of those teams has nothing to do with you not selecting the Heat? I don't know how anyone could pick a team other than Miami in the East after they destroyed the Eastern Conference playoffs in 15 games.


i still dont see how most people are picking the bulls they couldnt even beat miami with wade haslem and mike miller hurt how can they beat them wen their all healthy
See above comment...

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:21 PM
The Heat aren't near as deep as the Bulls which will be important in this compacted season.

but one of mia biggest problems last year was fixed we got a good back up pg in cole haslem n mike miller(wen he comes back) are healty n pittman is showing that hes gonna be the center we need score like 6pt n grab 6 reb

JordansBulls
12-16-2011, 01:21 PM
Favorite right now: Miami and Dallas

Twista
12-16-2011, 01:21 PM
I'm a Bulls fan, to me the "favorite" is whoever the sportsbooks have listed as the favorite. That would be the Heat. They were the favorites to win it all last year and they're the favorites again this year.

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 01:23 PM
The Heat aren't near as deep as the Bulls which will be important in this compacted season.

It won't matter. The Heat players could take games off during the regular season, or play fewer minutes, end up with the second or third seed and still destroy the East in the playoffs. And I think the addition of Battier will really help them not get tired out throughout the regular season. If Wade or Lebron need time off or more minutes to take a breather during big games, Battier can come in and keep them competitive for a few minutes.

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:25 PM
It won't matter. The Heat players could take games off during the regular season, or play fewer minutes, end up with the second or third seed and still destroy the East in the playoffs. And I think the addition of Battier will really help them not get tired out throughout the regular season. If Wade or Lebron need time off or more minutes to take a breather during big games, Battier can come in and keep them competitive for a few minutes.

thank you someone else that sees the logic n not thinking that omg bulls signed rip wade has no chance cuz he's gonna make him really tired:facepalm:

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 01:26 PM
Favorite right now: Miami and Dallas

I get the whole "the champs are the champs until they're dethroned" argument, and I'm personally not the biggest Tyson Chandler fan (inconsistent, injury prone, successful in a contract year), but I still think that's too big of a hit for them to overcome. If Haywood can stay healthy for the whole season, Dallas certainly has a shot, but I think it's unlikely and the Thunder are clearly the favorites, IMO.

THE_G.O.A.T.
12-16-2011, 01:26 PM
I'm a Bulls fan, to me the "favorite" is whoever the sportsbooks have listed as the favorite. That would be the Heat. They were the favorites to win it all last year and they're the favorites again this year.

Very true...at this point you can't argue against Vegas.

Twista
12-16-2011, 01:26 PM
We heard this same crap last year about how the Heat would "destroy" everyone. The intimidation factor is partly why they won so much. Stop spreading Heat propaganda about how they're unbeatable and how they'll destroy everyone. It's ridiculous.

THE_G.O.A.T.
12-16-2011, 01:28 PM
It won't matter. The Heat players could take games off during the regular season, or play fewer minutes, end up with the second or third seed and still destroy the East in the playoffs. And I think the addition of Battier will really help them not get tired out throughout the regular season. If Wade or Lebron need time off or more minutes to take a breather during big games, Battier can come in and keep them competitive for a few minutes.

Unless you plan on playing "the big 3" 48 minutes a game its going to matter. Also, do you really think Lebron and Wade are going to want to "take games off" and give up their minutes in their "redemption" year?

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:29 PM
We heard this same crap last year about how the Heat would "destroy" everyone. The intimidation factor is partly why they won so much. Stop spreading Heat propaganda about how they're unbeatable and how they'll destroy everyone. It's ridiculous.

who the hell is saying heats are unbeatable andwould destroy everyone they made it to the finals in the first year together n were two games away from winning if lebron played a decent series not a great they would of won n plus their 2 best bench players were hurt their bench this year is lot better then it was last year

Twista
12-16-2011, 01:31 PM
you, you and mightybosstone are saying they'll "destroy the East" and are hinting that they'll do so easily. That sounds like you think the Heat are unbeatable.

raidersrock99
12-16-2011, 01:31 PM
i dont usually correct grammar but this is the worst hahaa

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 01:32 PM
We heard this same crap last year about how the Heat would "destroy" everyone. The intimidation factor is partly why they won so much. Stop spreading Heat propaganda about how they're unbeatable and how they'll destroy everyone. It's ridiculous.

For one, I'm not a Heat fan, I'm a Rockets fan. And I'm not "spreading Heat propaganda," I'm stating facts. You have a team that ran through the Eastern Conference with ease last season which will be hungrier, a year more seasoned and a little deeper. Will the Bulls improve as well? Of course. But I don't think the addition of Rip improves them enough for them to overcome a series in which they were not close to winning last year.

IF Rip can provide 15-17 relatively efficient points a night (which he has not done in years), it will help, but I think Boozer really has to step up. You can't depend entirely on perimeter shooters late in games. You need an offensive presence in the paint or guys who can get to the line. Boozer (just like Karl Malone) is notorious for shrinking in big moments, but he has the ability to be Rose's legit No. 2 if he can grow a pair and be a little more aggressive in the fourth quarter.

Hawkeye15
12-16-2011, 01:34 PM
Heat/OKC

greek miami hea
12-16-2011, 01:34 PM
heat and...lakers...yes yes i know...but dont underestimate kobe's heart of a champion!!but still my heat will win it all :)

greek miami hea
12-16-2011, 01:35 PM
For one, I'm not a Heat fan, I'm a Rockets fan. And I'm not "spreading Heat propaganda," I'm stating facts. You have a team that ran through the Eastern Conference with ease last season which will be hungrier, a year more seasoned and a little deeper. Will the Bulls improve as well? Of course. But I don't think the addition of Rip improves them enough for them to overcome a series in which they were not close to winning last year.

IF Rip can provide 15-17 relatively efficient points a night (which he has not done in years), it will help, but I think Boozer really has to step up. You can't depend entirely on perimeter shooters late in games. You need an offensive presence in the paint or guys who can get to the line. Boozer (just like Karl Malone) is notorious for shrinking in big moments, but he has the ability to be Rose's legit No. 2 if he can grow a pair and be a little more aggressive in the fourth quarter.
bulls no1 problem = boozer--> no defense

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:35 PM
i really want to see a heats La finals would be the most watch finals in history so much stories in it

Twista
12-16-2011, 01:41 PM
For one, I'm not a Heat fan, I'm a Rockets fan. And I'm not "spreading Heat propaganda," I'm stating facts. You have a team that ran through the Eastern Conference with ease last season which will be hungrier, a year more seasoned and a little deeper. Will the Bulls improve as well? Of course. But I don't think the addition of Rip improves them enough for them to overcome a series in which they were not close to winning last year.

IF Rip can provide 15-17 relatively efficient points a night (which he has not done in years), it will help, but I think Boozer really has to step up. You can't depend entirely on perimeter shooters late in games. You need an offensive presence in the paint or guys who can get to the line. Boozer (just like Karl Malone) is notorious for shrinking in big moments, but he has the ability to be Rose's legit No. 2 if he can grow a pair and be a little more aggressive in the fourth quarter.

Do you follow any other team except the Heat? You seem to be extremely Heat biased. For example, you state that the Heat ran through the Eastern conference their first year together...except you fail to mention that it was the Knicks' first year together and the Bulls' first year together too.

You and MTL_123 state how injured the Heat were last year, except you fail to mention how injured the Knicks, Celtics and Bulls were last year too.

You mention how hungry the Heat are to win, but then you fail to mention how every other damn player in the entire NBA is hungry to win too.

Hawkeye15
12-16-2011, 01:46 PM
Do you follow any other team except the Heat? You seem to be extremely Heat biased. For example, you state that the Heat ran through the Eastern conference their first year together...except you fail to mention that it was the Knicks' first year together and the Bulls' first year together too.

You and MTL_123 state how injured the Heat were last year, except you fail to mention how injured the Knicks, Celtics and Bulls were last year too.

You mention how hungry the Heat are to win, but then you fail to mention how every other damn player in the entire NBA is hungry to win too.

He literally just told you he is a Rockets fan dude. And I am not going back and reading your debate with him, but the post you quoted is correct. How can you possibly think the addition of Rip, and natural improvement (something the Heat will have as well), gets them over the Heat come playoff time when they got their ***** kicked with homecourt advantage by the Heat (who also signed the ultimate glue guy in Battier)?

Its not about being biased. Its about understanding which team is the strongest. Its the one that just went to the finals out of the east, lost nobody of importance, gained a great defender/role player, and will have a year of chemistry under their belts.

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:46 PM
Do you follow any other team except the Heat? You seem to be extremely Heat biased. For example, you state that the Heat ran through the Eastern conference their first year together...except you fail to mention that it was the Knicks' first year together and the Bulls' first year together too.

You and MTL_123 state how injured the Heat were last year, except you fail to mention how injured the Knicks, Celtics and Bulls were last year too.

You mention how hungry the Heat are to win, but then you fail to mention how every other damn player in the entire NBA is hungry to win too.

THey only reason why im not saying it was the bulls first year together was because all they got was one new starter n bench i thought people realised this i guess not as for miami there whole starting line up was different wade lebron n bosh always had the ball in their hands

Twista
12-16-2011, 01:52 PM
He literally just told you he is a Rockets fan dude. And I am not going back and reading your debate with him, but the post you quoted is correct. How can you possibly think the addition of Rip, and natural improvement (something the Heat will have as well), gets them over the Heat come playoff time when they got their ***** kicked with homecourt advantage by the Heat (who also signed the ultimate glue guy in Battier)?

Its not about being biased. Its about understanding which team is the strongest. Its the one that just went to the finals out of the east, lost nobody of importance, gained a great defender/role player, and will have a year of chemistry under their belts.

I know he said he's a Rockets fan, I meant in the East. I meant does he follow any other team in the East besides the Heat? If he did, he wouldn't act like the Heat were the only ones to play their first year together, to deal with injuries or to be hungry to win.

I never stated that adding Rip Hamilton would put the Bulls over the Heat. I think the Bulls could beat the Heat with Keith Bogans as the starter again. Do people forget how close every game between the Bulls and Heat was last year? A few less injuries, Boozer and Noah playing a little better, and Rose making some better decisions and we could have won.

And don't forget the Knicks, why count them out? Are the Heat the only team in the NBA that can go on a tear and surprise some people? Suppose the Knicks gel real well and start playing great basketball. You never know.

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 01:53 PM
and the thing bout bull players being injured as in bozzer n noah they were bout benched in the last 5 min they were prob gonna be benched even iif they were healthy bozzer cant play defence and noah cant score

mjm07
12-16-2011, 01:53 PM
Do you follow any other team except the Heat? You seem to be extremely Heat biased. For example, you state that the Heat ran through the Eastern conference their first year together...except you fail to mention that it was the Knicks' first year together and the Bulls' first year together too.

You and MTL_123 state how injured the Heat were last year, except you fail to mention how injured the Knicks, Celtics and Bulls were last year too.

You mention how hungry the Heat are to win, but then you fail to mention how every other damn player in the entire NBA is hungry to win too.

It wasnt' with ease but each series the HEAT won weren't nail biters nor were they close. You gotta give credit when credit is due Twista if you don't thats ok too but thats called "being a hater"

East:
1. Heat
2. Bulls

West:

1. OKC
2. Mavs
3. Lakers

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 01:56 PM
Do you follow any other team except the Heat?
I just said I was a Rockets fan... :facepalm:


You seem to be extremely Heat biased. For example, you state that the Heat ran through the Eastern conference their first year together...except you fail to mention that it was the Knicks' first year together and the Bulls' first year together too.
What's your point? All three teams had major changes take place last season and all three teams had growing pains to deal with, but the Heat were clearly the superior team of the three. I don't know what you're trying to argue here...


You and MTL_123 state how injured the Heat were last year, except you fail to mention how injured the Knicks, Celtics and Bulls were last year too.Actually, I never once mentioned injuries, dude. Go back and read my posts and find one time that I brought up injuries of any kind.


You mention how hungry the Heat are to win, but then you fail to mention how every other damn player in the entire NBA is hungry to win too.But the Heat were ALREADY better than every team in the East last season! If all teams were equally hungry, based on last season, the Heat would still be the best team in the East. It's common sense! My point is if Miami had won the title last season, I think it would have been possible for a letdown from a team like Chicago, but that's not the case here.

Twista
12-16-2011, 01:58 PM
If I was a Heat fan I wouldn't expect the Eastern Conference playoffs to be as easy for them as it was last year. You got a little better? Well everybody else got a little bit better too. Don't kid yourselves, it's going to be a dog fight. ESPECIALLY with this brutal season schedule.

Hawkeye15
12-16-2011, 01:58 PM
I know he said he's a Rockets fan, I meant in the East. I meant does he follow any other team in the East besides the Heat? If he did, he wouldn't act like the Heat were the only ones to play their first year together, to deal with injuries or to be hungry to win.

I never stated that adding Rip Hamilton would put the Bulls over the Heat. I think the Bulls could beat the Heat with Keith Bogans as the starter again. Do people forget how close every game between the Bulls and Heat was last year? A few less injuries, Boozer and Noah playing a little better, and Rose making some better decisions and we could have won.

And don't forget the Knicks, why count them out? Are the Heat the only team in the NBA that can go on a tear and surprise some people? Suppose the Knicks gel real well and start playing great basketball. You never know.

I can't speak for him, but I see him in threads involving all teams.

Of course the Heat weren't the only ones that dealt with injuries. Not even close.

The Bulls are the only serious threat to the Heat. But the Bulls got their butts kicked with HCA, and adding Rip doesn't do a ton. He can score off the move (not a shot creator like his younger days, and wasn't that a huge complain of Bulls fans, that they needed another shot creator?), and a defensive drop off from Bogans/Brewer big time, meaning he is basically just an upgrade from Korver in the scheme of things. Boozer continues to shun away from big moments, has his whole career, and the Heat now have a year of chemistry, the ultimate role player +/- guy in Battier, deepening that bench, etc.

Its not as if the Bulls CAN'T beat the Heat in a 7 game series. But we have plenty of evidence suggesting that picking the Heat is the correct choice.

The Knicks still have zero backcourt, and absolutely no way to guard LeBron or Wade. Hell, they don't guard anyone. They are the clear #3 team out east.

mjm07
12-16-2011, 01:59 PM
I know he said he's a Rockets fan, I meant in the East. I meant does he follow any other team in the East besides the Heat? If he did, he wouldn't act like the Heat were the only ones to play their first year together, to deal with injuries or to be hungry to win.

I never stated that adding Rip Hamilton would put the Bulls over the Heat. I think the Bulls could beat the Heat with Keith Bogans as the starter again. Do people forget how close every game between the Bulls and Heat was last year? A few less injuries, Boozer and Noah playing a little better, and Rose making some better decisions and we could have won.

And don't forget the Knicks, why count them out? Are the Heat the only team in the NBA that can go on a tear and surprise some people? Suppose the Knicks gel real well and start playing great basketball. You never know.


No one is counting out any of the teams you mentioned.

The Heat beat the Bulls in the playoffs even with Wade playing like garbage (injury, shot was off ) but that didn't matter. We still won the series making us better.

I get why you think otherwise but youre argument has no merit and its obvious you dislike the HEAT. But keep hating and you never know maybe the Bulls might pull it off but most likely they won't and it will be the HEAT.

TROLL POLICE
12-16-2011, 02:01 PM
Thunder vs Bulls. it will be a fun series. Boozer lost 20 pounds and looks to bounce back from a terrible playoffs performance.

Twista
12-16-2011, 02:02 PM
I don't dislike the Heat, I just think a lot of teams got better and it won't be easy for anyone this year. What irked me was people making excuses for the Heat like "It was their first year, they were injured, they're hungrier now"...which are things you can say about pretty much any team in the East.

knicks=love
12-16-2011, 02:03 PM
the homerism in this thread is unbelievable. and the spelling/grammar mistakes are just dreadful to read.. such a disgrace to the english language as a whole.

i for one, will not be a homer and say the heat and thunder are definitely the favorites. the knicks don't have the best looking bench on paper, but no one knows if someone will step up. now, i'm not saying that i only picked the heat because of that flaw in the knicks, but that's the only situation i really know with any team. i think this is the year where the thunder definitely shine and prove to people that they're for real.

i honestly don't think the addition of rip really puts the bulls over the edge as the favorite. boozer is still a black hole on defense, and didn't show up at all last year at anytime. i also don't even think the bulls are all that good. i think they're a bit overrated, but they'll still be a top 4 team in the east. (go ahead bulls fans, bash me all you want) that's not saying that i think the knicks will finish above them, i'm just saying i think they're overrated a little.

MBT is a boss. here's a bit of advice for you all.. DON'T GET IN AN ARGUMENT WITH THE DUDE. HE'LL ****ING RAPE YOU IN YOUR BUTT AND OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 02:05 PM
If I was a Heat fan I wouldn't expect the Eastern Conference playoffs to be as easy for them as it was last year. You got a little better? Well everybody else got a little bit better too. Don't kid yourselves, it's going to be a dog fight. ESPECIALLY with this brutal season schedule.

I don't think it will necessarily be "easy" for them, and when I said they would "destroy" the East this season, that was probably a bit of an overstatement. A team like the Bulls or Celtics could certainly beat the Heat in a seven-game series if the Heat don't bring their A-game, similar to how they lost against the Mavs in the Finals. Every year at least one superior team gets beaten in the postseason and the Heat could be that team this year. I'm not disputing that.

But this is a thread about who the favorites should be, and based on last year and the offseason, I don't know how anyone could openly say the Heat aren't the favorites.

Twista
12-16-2011, 02:07 PM
Again, the favorites to me is not a subjective thing. I can look at Vegas oddsmakers and objectively tell you who the favorite is.

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 02:08 PM
MBT is a boss. here's a bit of advice for you all.. DON'T GET IN AN ARGUMENT WITH THE DUDE. HE'LL ****ING RAPE YOU IN YOUR BUTT AND OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.

The man speaks the truth. ;)

VillaMaravilla
12-16-2011, 02:09 PM
if bdiddy come to the City and is healthy and Bibby plays a lot better then he did in Miami im picking the Knicks, out of the west im calling Dallas again

knicks=love
12-16-2011, 02:10 PM
The man speaks the truth. ;)

just wear a condom ;)

Avenged
12-16-2011, 02:10 PM
Thunder and Bulls would be my 1st choice.

Lakers/Heat would be my 2nd. Probably should put the Heat 1st though but I'm just really high on the Bulls.

Beastin'downlow
12-16-2011, 02:12 PM
thunder vs heat

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 02:13 PM
I really don't get why everyone is so high on the Knicks. Yes, they improved their front court defense with the addition of Chandler, but their back court is going to be atrocious and it's possible they'll have one great defender and four miserable ones. If they improved over last season, I don't think it will be enough to put them into the same conversation as the Heat, Bulls or Celtics in terms of postseason "favorites."

THE_G.O.A.T.
12-16-2011, 02:16 PM
Where did this talk of butt rape come from? I didn't know Jerry Sandusky was a Heat fan.

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 02:18 PM
Where did this talk of butt rape come from? I didn't know Jerry Sandusky was a Heat fan.

:pity:

TylerSL
12-16-2011, 02:19 PM
Where did this talk of butt rape come from? I didn't know Jerry Sandusky was a Heat fan.

love the sig

TylerSL
12-16-2011, 02:20 PM
I got Miami/OKC

Miami in 6

Twista
12-16-2011, 02:30 PM
I really don't get why everyone is so high on the Knicks. Yes, they improved their front court defense with the addition of Chandler, but their back court is going to be atrocious and it's possible they'll have one great defender and four miserable ones. If they improved over last season, I don't think it will be enough to put them into the same conversation as the Heat, Bulls or Celtics in terms of postseason "favorites."

Well I don't understand why everybody is so high on the Celtics. They lost last year because they were old and because they lacked a center. They're still old and they still lack a center.

Shmontaine
12-16-2011, 02:30 PM
okay first, vegas odds on pro sports are hardly objective... they are basically the most subjective bets one can make, hence they change all the time...

second, i believe that the bulls got better more so than the heat did this off-season... battier is a nice pickup, but didn't really address their biggest need, whereas the bulls shored up the debacle that was the sg position last year...

i have bulls and heat in ECF this year again... i won't start the futile debate on which team will win, because that again is a purely subjective call... but i will say it will be at least a 6 or 7 game series... i think HC will be a big factor in who wins, and IMO makes this condensed season much more important...

the heat will undoubtedly be better this season just with another year together, but the same could be said for the bulls (but not as much IMO, they seemed to gel pretty well last year)... it will be a great battle between the bulls and heat this year, but most importantly, i want both teams to enter their series together healthy... this is the only way IMO to really legitimately evaluate the two teams against each other...

****in nba, i love it...

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 02:56 PM
Well I don't understand why everybody is so high on the Celtics. They lost last year because they were old and because they lacked a center. They're still old and they still lack a center.

True, but that's a veteran team of first-ballot hall of famers, and they've proven that they're "not too old" a couple of teams over the last few years. No one expected them to make that second run to the Finals against the Lakers (which they nearly won) and that was only two seasons ago. They were still the No. 3 seed last year and are still a better overall team than the Knicks, IMO.

Chi StateOfMind
12-16-2011, 02:58 PM
Heat vs. OKC

LeBron vs. Durant Flag Football Pt.2 after the finals.

gotoHcarolina52
12-16-2011, 03:12 PM
Miami and Dallas

tmacmamba
12-16-2011, 03:20 PM
Heat Mavs, I wanna see a Bulls vs Thunder Finals Matchup tho.

EDIT: Heat Thunder should be the Favorites.

kobebabe
12-16-2011, 03:29 PM
i still dont see how most people are picking the bulls they couldnt even beat miami with wade haslem and mike miller hurt how can they beat them wen their all healthy

Dude, let people voice their opinion! Why do they have to say miami if they feel differently????????:facepalm:

ChicagoJ
12-16-2011, 03:40 PM
I'm not sure why some people are saying the heat cruised through the east last year. The series with the bulls was very close. Sure, they won 4-1. But, for anyone that watched those games knows that each game (outside of game 1) was very close. The bulls had no offense when the defense of the heat contained D rose in the last few minutes of each game. That's pretty much what it came down to. I don't know who will win in a rematch, but the teams were very closely matched last year.

ChicagoRox
12-16-2011, 03:42 PM
Dude, let people voice their opinion! Why do they have to say miami if they feel differently????????:facepalm:

Just ignore the guy. He can't write proper English, and the three numbers he can count to is in his screen name.

My favorites are the Heat and OKC, but I wouldn't be surprised if neither make it to the finals.

mightybosstone
12-16-2011, 03:51 PM
I'm not sure why some people are saying the heat cruised through the east last year. The series with the bulls was very close. Sure, they won 4-1. But, for anyone that watched those games knows that each game (outside of game 1) was very close. The bulls had no offense when the defense of the heat contained D rose in the last few minutes of each game. That's pretty much what it came down to. I don't know who will win in a rematch, but the teams were very closely matched last year.

The games were closer than the series result would indicate, but after games two and three I never felt like the Bulls had a chance in that series and the Heat were the superior fourth quarter team. Pulling up the box scores from that series, the Heat outscored the Bulls in the fourth quarter (and overtime) of each of those last four games by a combined 33 points.

So while it was close, there's something to be said for the kind of fourth quarter dominance the Heat showed in that series.

MTL_123
12-16-2011, 04:10 PM
Just ignore the guy. He can't write proper English, and the three numbers he can count to is in his screen name.

My favorites are the Heat and OKC, but I wouldn't be surprised if neither make it to the finals.

lol u MAD im speaking the truth:silly:

THE MTL
12-16-2011, 04:18 PM
EAST:
1. Miami Heat by far. (The way they beat Chicago/Celtics was simple)
2. Chicago (how many games did Boozer and Noah actually play together?- not many)

WEST:
1. Thunder (no moves are the BEST moves and Perkins is healthy)
2. Grizzlies (kept the team together and gets back Rudy Gay)
3. Clippers (CP3 can win 46 games w/ West. Imagine w/ Griffin)

THE MTL
12-16-2011, 04:18 PM
lol u MAD im speaking the truth:silly:

MTL? WTF?????? You'll never be "THE MTL" lol

Neosheed
12-16-2011, 04:27 PM
[QUOTE=MTL_123;20148148]i still dont see how most people are picking the bulls they couldnt even beat miami with wade haslem and mike miller hurt how can they beat them wen their all healthy[/QUOT



Dude u can't say that cause boozer was hurt(toe) and he's better than haslem and rose was still raising those shots for his ankel so was never 100% and u could tell when he played them he didn't have that super fast burst that he had through the season. I picked them to come out cause they address their needs at sg. Nobody wants to Chase rip around screens all day and wit all those pump fakes whoever is sticking him will b in foul trouble.the heat add a sf that plays d??? I like shane but that threw me off a lil bit y not fill a need at pg or center they both have the same team one filled a need to make them complete and the other just add depth and a crowded position

tbone2171
12-16-2011, 04:33 PM
i saw Miami Chicago outter the east an the west lakers mavs Memphis or thunder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCrDeMLgVZQ

shizzle09
12-16-2011, 05:00 PM
Heat v mavs. Teams that could upset these 2 teams is bulls, lakers, okc.

ChI_ShIzzLe
12-16-2011, 05:41 PM
I can't speak for him, but I see him in threads involving all teams.

Of course the Heat weren't the only ones that dealt with injuries. Not even close.

The Bulls are the only serious threat to the Heat. But the Bulls got their butts kicked with HCA, and adding Rip doesn't do a ton. He can score off the move (not a shot creator like his younger days, and wasn't that a huge complain of Bulls fans, that they needed another shot creator?), and a defensive drop off from Bogans/Brewer big time, meaning he is basically just an upgrade from Korver in the scheme of things. Boozer continues to shun away from big moments, has his whole career, and the Heat now have a year of chemistry, the ultimate role player +/- guy in Battier, deepening that bench, etc.

Its not as if the Bulls CAN'T beat the Heat in a 7 game series. But we have plenty of evidence suggesting that picking the Heat is the correct choice.

The Knicks still have zero backcourt, and absolutely no way to guard LeBron or Wade. Hell, they don't guard anyone. They are the clear #3 team out east.

I still don't understand why ppl keep saying we got our ***** kicked when 4 out of those 5 games the Heat won came down to the last few mins of the 4th quarter and OT. :facepalm:

theheatles
12-16-2011, 05:47 PM
miami heat are the clear favorites out of the east, any other answer shows that poster to be a blind ignorant homer and/or hater, g'day :p

Lakers + Giants
12-16-2011, 06:10 PM
MIA and OKC. Both pretty convincingly too. .

Dade County
12-16-2011, 06:14 PM
HEAT vs LAKERS

beliges
12-16-2011, 06:18 PM
Miami is the favorites out of the East and as of right now, Dallas is the favorites out of the West. Miami is certainly the favorites to win it all, but if the Lakers acquire Dwight, then they will be favored with Kobe, Pau and Dwight.

SNYmets86
12-16-2011, 06:19 PM
Thunder - heat

NYMetros
12-16-2011, 06:50 PM
Miami and OKC IMO.

bledrules
12-16-2011, 06:58 PM
It will be 2 teams full of ego maniac morons who have the brain capacity of a baby wipe
But then again that covers every player/team in the NBA