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Dijwaila
12-15-2011, 02:44 PM
NABA: North American Basketball Association?

A Mexico City team, could it happen some day? ... Should it happen?

If you were a league executive, what would you consider reasons for and against establishing a team there?

waveycrockett
12-15-2011, 02:46 PM
I would say the drug cartel wars is a pretty good reason not to do it

nickdymez
12-15-2011, 02:50 PM
Nobodies trying to live in Mexico City

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 02:51 PM
^exactly
If you think its hard getting players to go to cleveland, imagine over there.
The carte thing is a HUUUUGE problem.
and even before that, you had sanitation problems (Raul Julia died from a bacteria in the drinking water of his hotel, of all places.

And lastly im not sur there are enough mexicans with sufficient disposable income to support the mexican football league (which will come first by a mile) AND an NBA franchise.

Delrayhc
12-15-2011, 02:57 PM
Would we have to sneak across the border to watch those games?

spreadeagle
12-15-2011, 02:59 PM
For: The cheerleaders would be smokin,love me some big bootys

ink
12-15-2011, 03:00 PM
Reasons why it probably won't happen begin with xenophobia.

AllBall
12-15-2011, 03:00 PM
Two words.

Drug Cartels.

Delrayhc
12-15-2011, 03:01 PM
Hotdogs in tortillas.

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 03:07 PM
Reasons why it probably won't happen begin with xenophobia.

doubtful,

too many legit reasons not to do it

smith&wesson
12-15-2011, 03:07 PM
players will have to learn how to speak latin. other wise how could they live there.

Da Knicks
12-15-2011, 03:08 PM
Drug cartels would be all over the owners and players, what would the name be "Mexican Mafia"?

Dijwaila
12-15-2011, 03:09 PM
... sanitation problems (Raul Julia died from a bacteria in the drinking water of his hotel ...

Let's keep our statements accurate and plausible.



Source: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000471/bio

... With his health declining from 1993 onward after he underwent a surgical operation for stomach cancer ... On October 16, 1994, the weakened and gaunt Raul Julia suffered a stroke in New York City where he fell into a coma a few days later and was put on life support. He was transferred to a hospice in nearby Manhasset, Long Island where his weakened body finally gave up the struggle on October 24 ...

Dijwaila
12-15-2011, 03:10 PM
... too many legit reasons not to do it

Please elaborate.

AKAYaReal
12-15-2011, 03:12 PM
I could see a baseball team start in a latin country before any other sport. The language barrier will always play a factor though. Especially when you have Euros that have to learn how to speak english and spanish.

Maybe someday but dont see it happening this decade.

AKAYaReal
12-15-2011, 03:12 PM
Drug cartels would be all over the owners and players, what would the name be "Mexican Mafia"?

Mexico City Bullets

Delrayhc
12-15-2011, 03:13 PM
After the home team wins a big pinata explodes.

ugafan
12-15-2011, 03:16 PM
Nobody wants to live there.

GodsSon
12-15-2011, 03:20 PM
Reasons why it probably won't happen begin with xenophobia.

I guess we should consider ourselves lucky to have a team then lol

Dankster
12-15-2011, 03:25 PM
There's a myriad of reasons why it wouldn't work. I think safety issues would be the primary concern, as well as basketball probably not even ranking in the top 3 sportswise in popularity in Mexico (Soccer, baseball and believe it or not boxing are the major sports in Mexico.

Language barrier would also be a very prominent issue as well as even trying to figure out a way to persuade an owner to start a franchise down there. It works in Canada because the majority of people speak English and french, not the case in Mexico however. I won't even go into the economy or the violent manner of how the drug cartels work down there- that'll take too much time.

I'd say there would be a more realistic shot of a team opening up in Puerto Rico before there was one in Mexico.

nothappyinut
12-15-2011, 03:26 PM
I guess we should consider ourselves lucky to have a team then lol

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Denver-boy
12-15-2011, 03:27 PM
Cons:
1. Mexicans are too short to play basketball?
2. They will attempt to kick the basketball because they like soccer so much
3. Not a lot of players are going to want to live in or near Mexico City
4. Is it really part of the U.S.?
5. Referees will be constantly yelling goooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaall!!!!! after each made basket

Pros:

....Ill get back to you on that

:facepalm: where did you get there recruiting people there?. super offensive to really say all mexicans are short, I know a Hispanic that's 7-1.

1 you are racist!! someone seriously ban this guy!!!

Delrayhc
12-15-2011, 03:30 PM
:facepalm: where did you get there recruiting people there?. super offensive to really say all mexicans are short, I know a Hispanic that's 7-1.

1 you are racist!! someone seriously ban this guy!!!

Very sensitive.

spreadeagle
12-15-2011, 03:32 PM
Do ppl in mexico even like basketball? also do you know how much *****ing goes on about a team in Canada and all the border stuff,god knows how much you would hear about Mexico

Davidgta1
12-15-2011, 03:34 PM
Who would want to play there?

Chronz
12-15-2011, 03:35 PM
Ive gone to Mexico 3 times, once with my mom. We had to hitch hike our way back home because someone stole our car. 2nd time they mugged our hotel. 3rd time my wallet (Though that was a drunken mistake).

I dont have fond memories in Mexico, save for this one child asking me if I want weeds.

swirl54
12-15-2011, 03:37 PM
Sam Hurd would play there

Chronz
12-15-2011, 03:38 PM
To be honest though, I think it would be great for the NBA to be the first American league to expand down south, probably help the government but I dont think many people care for basketball there.

Chronz
12-15-2011, 03:40 PM
My friend was in Mexico all of 5 minutes and first bar he went to he talked to some local girl at a bar and a dude smacked him on the back of the head with a huge ashtray and split his head open haha
Sounds like TJ, friend of mine met his wifey at a strip club down there. He visits from time to time.

Rosarito is nice tho, you just have to come loaded so you can afford a top notch hotel with security.

lakerboy
12-15-2011, 03:42 PM
Two words: Mexican Cartels

That's the team name!

Wade>You
12-15-2011, 03:43 PM
The NBA needs to stop expanding and putting teams in cities that the NFL and MLB wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole.

Raps18-19 Champ
12-15-2011, 03:44 PM
Reasons why it probably won't happen begin with xenophobia.

This.

Mexico also isn't considered a 1st world country and with some of the divas in the NBA, I doubt they'd even want to stay with hotels there.

Wade>You
12-15-2011, 03:47 PM
Do you want another lockout? I know some fans of crappy teams that do, but the majority of NBA fans say NO!

Muttman73
12-15-2011, 03:50 PM
Um, many of these guys in the NBA have a hard enough time speaking English, NFW they will learn Spanish. If they won't put a team in Vegas, why would they even consider Mexico City.

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 03:55 PM
Let's keep our statements accurate and plausible.

i guess i was misinformed about his death. i was wrong. its completely plausible because when i went to mexico and thailand, i was told by the tour guides, who were from there, to never drinkwater that wasnt bottled because we could very easily get sick. So its very plausible.

gotoHcarolina52
12-15-2011, 04:04 PM
i guess i was misinformed about his death. and although innacurate, it very plausible. but again, i was wrong.

Not so fast with that apology


In early 1994, while filming The Burning Season in Mexico, Juliá contracted food poisoning after consuming sushi. The condition worsened, since he had undergone stomach surgery a few months earlier for an infection which was rumored to be stomach cancer. Juliá was airlifted to Los Angeles and received medical attention. He recovered and returned to Mexico to finish the movie, but he lost several pounds and was physically weakened by his condition.

On October 16, 1994, Juliá . . . began feeling an intense abdominal pain and had to be carried by ambulance to North Shore University Hospital on Manhasset, Long Island, New York. Later that night, Juliá suffered an unexpected stroke. The condition continued worsening and he fell into a coma on October 20, 1994, and was put on life support. Four days later, on October 24, 1994, Juliá died due to terminal complications from the brain hemorrhage. He was 54 years old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raúl_Juliá#Illness_and_Death

Crackadalic
12-15-2011, 04:07 PM
Mexican Cartels are the biggest reason there won't be a NBA team over there

He115ing
12-15-2011, 04:14 PM
:facepalm: where did you get there recruiting people there?. super offensive to really say all mexicans are short, I know a Hispanic that's 7-1.

1 you are racist!! someone seriously ban this guy!!!

if you notice i posed it as a question not a fact. Based on my personal observations, the Mexican population does not boast height. I personally never saw a any Mexican dude taller than 6 feet.

gotoHcarolina52
12-15-2011, 04:14 PM
Since many have given cons, I'll contribute some pros

Pro 1 (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_x7xEbaBRmPw/SkEcZ1lgp3I/AAAAAAAAH5A/xhvxQz3sdwI/s400/mexican_cheerleaders_09.jpg)
Pro 2 (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww164/damncoolpictures14/mexican_cheerleaders_11.jpg)
Pro 3 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-20116.jpg)
Pro 4 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-201110.jpg)
Pro 5 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-20112.jpg)

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 04:26 PM
Please elaborate.

all the other reasons i stated, starting with the drug cartels and all the problems with kidnapping in south and central america.

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 04:29 PM
Not so fast with that apology


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raúl_Juliá#Illness_and_Death

ahhh, vindicated once more, thank you my good man.

even though, it wasnt water, ill take it.

X12Celtics3
12-15-2011, 04:30 PM
#1 reason that this is a bad idea: There are already too many teams for the league to operate at a high level. The league needs to contract, so adding another team (or attempting to move one of the current failing franchises to another location where they probably won't be successful) does not seem like a smart thing to do.

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 04:32 PM
players will have to learn how to speak latin. Other wise how could they live there.

wooooooow!!!

U do realize...forget it

xk4
12-15-2011, 04:34 PM
Does nobody remember the Latin Nights jerseys?

The NBA has a lot of money invested in ad campaigns for the Heat, Suns, Lakers, any team perceived to be marketable to or have a certain percent of Spanish speaking fans, including NY apparently. But my point is that all demographics are considered and if there's enough money to be made, a Mexican expansion is not completely out of the question.

Also, if players health and safety was their #1 priority the league wouldn't make them suffer through a crammed 66 game season. Or go to Detroit

AKAYaReal
12-15-2011, 04:40 PM
Since many have given cons, I'll contribute some pros

Pro 1 (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_x7xEbaBRmPw/SkEcZ1lgp3I/AAAAAAAAH5A/xhvxQz3sdwI/s400/mexican_cheerleaders_09.jpg)
Pro 2 (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww164/damncoolpictures14/mexican_cheerleaders_11.jpg)
Pro 3 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-20116.jpg)
Pro 4 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-201110.jpg)
Pro 5 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-20112.jpg)

Works for me, sign me up for season tickets

ink
12-15-2011, 04:42 PM
I guess we should consider ourselves lucky to have a team then lol


This.

Mexico also isn't considered a 1st world country and with some of the divas in the NBA, I doubt they'd even want to stay with hotels there.

You guys both know how quickly NBA athletes want to get out of a foreign country. We had the issue with Antonio Davis, we've had it repeatedly with stars, we saw stars like Bibby and Steve Francis balk at playing in Canada. Obviously it has a lot to do with winning, but it is also obvious that players want to play at home. That's exactly why the Raptors have been conducting their European player policy, to try to get players that will be open to living in a new country. So, if they have a problem with Canada, which is very similar to the US in many ways, it's very unlikely they're going to feel any more at home in Mexico, which is very different from the US. Players would not want to live or play there.

Netslunatic76
12-15-2011, 04:43 PM
Since many have given cons, I'll contribute some pros

Pro 1 (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_x7xEbaBRmPw/SkEcZ1lgp3I/AAAAAAAAH5A/xhvxQz3sdwI/s400/mexican_cheerleaders_09.jpg)
Pro 2 (http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww164/damncoolpictures14/mexican_cheerleaders_11.jpg)
Pro 3 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-20116.jpg)
Pro 4 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-201110.jpg)
Pro 5 (http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy41/footballer2015/Porristas/Clausura%202011/mexican-cheerleaders-20112.jpg)

There are hot chicks everywhere and there is no girl in the world that looks good enough for me to risk being hung beheaded from a bridge naked.


As someone asked before, do Mexicans even care about basketball?

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 04:43 PM
Does nobody remember the Latin Nights jerseys?

The NBA has a lot of money invested in ad campaigns for the Heat, Suns, Lakers, any team perceived to be marketable to or have a certain percent of Spanish speaking fans, including NY apparently. But my point is that all demographics are considered and if there's enough money to be made, a Mexican expansion is not completely out of the question.

Also, if players health and safety was their #1 priority the league wouldn't make them suffer through a crammed 66 game season. Or go to Detroit


lets be real, not to undermine these players work ethic or how hard it is to play in the nba or whatever, but theres no reason why they shouldnt be able to handle that many back to backs it basketball not soccer. LOL at the detroit part tho,

MrfadeawayJB
12-15-2011, 04:47 PM
not enough money to be made there

Heatcheck
12-15-2011, 04:57 PM
not enough money to be made there

i was thinking the same thing, but i dont know because they DO have alot of very wealthy people in mexico. so im not sure.

Dijwaila
12-15-2011, 05:03 PM
Some decent feedback, let's summarize thus far:

Against

- Security
- Sanitation
- Ability of local population to support a team
- No cultural history with basketball
- Language barrier


For

- Cheerleaders
- Exploding victory pinatas


Neither Against Nor For

- Cocaine


Granted, there are issues, but some of these problems could solve themselves. Just some options to consider, bear with me now ...

- Sell a team to the strongest cartel. With police connections, they should more or less be to adequately staff official and unofficial security. And if not, well ... who doesn't enjoy a good halftime show?

- With cartel ownership, the team will be supported by local associates and should at least fill 1/4 to 1/3 of the stands for most games, varying according to casualties of the given week.

- The remaining seats can be filled with cheerleaders, thereby helping the unemployment situation. Everybody wins.

- The language barrier can be solved with cocaine, because after 5 minutes of being high, nothing anybody says will make sense anyway.

- As for cultural history, paint the ball black and white and eliminate the kicked-ball rule during their home games for the first season or two. Also, did I mention that the cocaine will be available at concession stands?

There we have it, problems solved, and I didn't even get to the exploding victory pinatas!

So, who wants to phone Dave with the good news?

GeekInThePink
12-15-2011, 05:05 PM
Weird thread lol

ink
12-15-2011, 05:05 PM
Agreed. And it's not going anywhere. Closed.