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justinnum1
12-08-2011, 02:07 PM
WOW

kberg
Multiple league executives say the Knicks are now in the lead to land Tyson Chandler, jumping in front of the Warriors.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:10 PM
Where is the money going to come from? Probably amnesty Chauncey?

http://knickscoop.com/?p=339

I'd say the CP3 to the Knicks in 2012 is now definitely going to happen!

tcav701
12-08-2011, 02:10 PM
Is it too late for Miami to nix that SB deal?

LakersKB24
12-08-2011, 02:11 PM
How are they gonna sign him? They don't have the cap space. If they S&T for him that means no Chris Paul right?

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:12 PM
Is it too late for Miami to nix that SB deal?

Nothing is official until tomorrow morning, so yes. But Chandler does not want to go to Miami. He wants to go to New York because in a yr, there is a chance that his good friend Chris Paul will join him & Melo & Amare.

97NYer
12-08-2011, 02:12 PM
? how would we pull this off....Chauncey for Tyson straight up is good for me

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:12 PM
Paul
Grant Hill
Melo
Amare
Chandler

RIP the rest of the NBA

OMG :speechless:

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:12 PM
How are they gonna sign him? They don't have the cap space. If they S&T for him that means no Chris Paul right?

They're thinking of Amnestying Chauncey.

Wade>You
12-08-2011, 02:13 PM
Where is the money going to come from? Probably amnesty Chauncey?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBMdsSwNZ9M&feature=related

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:13 PM
Paul
Grant Hill
Melo
Amare
Chandler

RIP the rest of the NBA

OMG :speechless:


Not the rest of the NBA, just the East...especially their elites in Boston, Chicago and Miami.

xxplayerxx23
12-08-2011, 02:14 PM
who runs the point if they throw billups out??

LakersKB24
12-08-2011, 02:14 PM
They're thinking of Amnestying Chauncey.

Melo and Stat each get about 20 million next season. If they amnesty Chauncey and sign Chandler for what he's demanding right now, there would be no way they could get CP3.

xxplayerxx23
12-08-2011, 02:14 PM
Not the rest of the NBA, just the East...especially their elites in Boston, Chicago and Miami.

If that happens, most teams in trouble

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBMdsSwNZ9M&feature=related

I know you want them to amnesty Chauncey so the Heat can pick them up, but isn't there a rule where the top bidders for the services of amnestied players goes to teams who are currently under the salary cap? (Trust me, if I were the Lakers, I'd jump on Chauncey right now as well).

The_Jamal
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
How are they going to afford G-Hill and Chandler? Even with using the amnesty on Chauncey?

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
I guess Shumpert runs the Point as our Mario Chalmbers? Wow, this is crazy.

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
20,000 Warriors fans just cried, BC they lost their chance of being a play off team again lol

xxplayerxx23
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
Melo and Stat each get about 20 million next season. If they amnesty Chauncey and sign Chandler for what he's demanding right now, there would be no way they could get CP3.

Yep, probw ont get paul then wonder if they will be after areans for a cheap contract if he gets let go

AIMelo=KillaDUO
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
omgomgomgomgomgomogmg :jumpy:

meloman1592
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
If this gets done, who's the pg??????

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
If that happens, most teams in trouble

If my Lakers get Dwight, then we should be okay! ;)

Robbw241
12-08-2011, 02:15 PM
This would mean no CP3 unless they move Amare

justinnum1
12-08-2011, 02:16 PM
lmfao, they not getting chandler and cp3 lol

i read they could trade amare for cp3 after they amnest billups

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:16 PM
If this gets done, who's the pg??????

I'm thinking Toney Douglas.

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:16 PM
How are they going to afford G-Hill and Chandler? Even with using the amnesty on Chauncey?

Grant seems to be gauging his value by talking to us. So, he won't come. He's staying in PHX.

justinnum1
12-08-2011, 02:16 PM
If this gets done, who's the pg??????

shumpert lmfao

tcav701
12-08-2011, 02:16 PM
This would mean no CP3 unless they move Amare

:nod:

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:17 PM
NOOOOOOOO!!! Chandler is NOT worth it. Hope he goes to GS! I dont wanna have THREE dudes with multiple injury riddled seasons on their resumes!!

Monta is beast
12-08-2011, 02:18 PM
20,000 Warriors fans just cried, BC they lost their chance of being a play off team again lol

Dude you have some issues. You have a passionate hate for the Warriors for some reason. And who says the Warriors wont come up with another offer.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:19 PM
lmfao, they not getting chandler and cp3 lol

i read they could trade amare for cp3 after they amnest billups

Why would they want a trio of CP3-Melo-Chandler??? :confused:


And no, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they get Chandler this yr and get CP3 in the summer of 2012 if they can make some minor deals here and there to get more cap space. My intuition tells me that though CP3 does want the $, he's already gonna make a lot from endorsements in a big market in NY, but his main goal would be to play with one of his best friends in Melo, and now you add the incentive of playing with Amare, and a former Hornets teammate and good friend in Tyson, and the run-and-gun offense of Mike D'Antoni....and it being the legendary KNICKS!

Yes, Boston can do their 1 yr rental, but starting in 2012-2013, Chris Paul will be a New York Knick.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:19 PM
Chandler is better off going to GS for avg of $15 mil a year anyway! Knicks just need to stop!

futureman
12-08-2011, 02:20 PM
They're just making stuff up.

Da Knicks
12-08-2011, 02:20 PM
shumpert lmfao

i would actually be Douglas and why laugh at the idea of shumpert no one has seen him play yet. I dont want chandler though, i think his good season was a fluke.

VillaMaravilla
12-08-2011, 02:21 PM
I rather get CP3 and trade Amare for Dwight

Robbw241
12-08-2011, 02:21 PM
Knicks would be better off with a defensive Center like Chandler then a PG like Paul, IMO.

Iodine
12-08-2011, 02:22 PM
Knicks would be better with Boki

gotoHcarolina52
12-08-2011, 02:22 PM
Would it be possible for them to sign Chandler and then trade him for Dwight? How long must they wait under the new CBA?

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:23 PM
Ken Berger thinks a deal gets done tomorrow morning. Wow.

shep33
12-08-2011, 02:24 PM
Would it be possible for them to sign Chandler and then trade him for Dwight? How long must they wait under the new CBA?

I still don't think you can do that. You can sign and trade your own players that are about to be free agents, but you can't flip guys like that.

knicks=love
12-08-2011, 02:24 PM
Really not sure how I feel about this. Our front court is disgusting :drool: but our ph situation is shot. Maybe we can amnesty Chauncey and sign him to a cheap deal? He's older so he definitely wants to win now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on amnestying Chauncey, signing Tyson and hill and billups?

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:25 PM
CP3, Melo, Amare, Chandler.

Sounds like a Phil Jackson team.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:26 PM
This can't be true! Please let it not be!!! Don't want a dude with a fluke season to be overpaid by the Knicks and use the one time amnesty on an expiring Billups contract!

RevisIsland
12-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Someone wanna explain to me how they'd get Paul if they get Chandler? There simply isn't enough money. Come on Knicks fans don't be greedy. Chandler would change the entire structure of our team. Great move imo. I'd rather have Marc Gasol if we were going shopping for a center, but hey I won't complain.

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:26 PM
This free agency is getting good!!!

So sad Dallas has no money, wish we did the some epic trade rapes that Cuban does

Or sign Richard Jefferson and call it a day

Kidd
Rudy
Jefferson
Dirk
Haywood

Roddy
Terry
Brewer
Marion
Mahini

Cal827
12-08-2011, 02:26 PM
This is Chandler trying to up his price. If the KNicks do this, you guys aren't getting paul.. unless he's willing to work for pennies... Melo/Amare account for about 40 mill of the salary cap... Chandler would be at least another 10 mill (but he probably wants a lot more).. but that leaves like 7 mill for paul.

Remember, the AMNESTY would still count against the cap for the season.

Robbw241
12-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Knicks would be better with Boki

Thats a given

Heatcheck
12-08-2011, 02:27 PM
when i think chandler, i think chronic underachiever who cant do **** outside the circle. And to give such a one dimensional player so much money is tough. they're better off standing pat until they can make a move for Paul who obviously wants to be there.

iggypop123
12-08-2011, 02:27 PM
might be a ploy to get the warriors to pay up.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:27 PM
CP3, Melo, Amare, Chandler.

Sounds like a Phil Jackson team.

best line of whole thread:clap::clap:

PurpleJesus
12-08-2011, 02:27 PM
knicks media and fans need to chill out...they are not getting Paul, Chandler and Hill.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:27 PM
when i think chandler, i think chronic underachiever who cant do **** outside the circle. And to give such a one dimensional player so much money is tough. they're better off standing pat until they can make a move for Paul who obviously wants to be there.

Exactly! Please Knicks, don't do this!!!

NYKnicksAllDay
12-08-2011, 02:28 PM
CP3, Melo, Amare, Chandler.

Sounds like a Phil Jackson team.

Salary cap??

iggypop123
12-08-2011, 02:28 PM
Someone wanna explain to me how they'd get Paul if they get Chandler? There simply isn't enough money. Come on Knicks fans don't be greedy. Chandler would change the entire structure of our team. Great move imo. I'd rather have Marc Gasol if we were going shopping for a center, but hey I won't complain.

they wouldnt. but it would be tough if they did nothing this year anyways. seems paul is hoping for the lakers now and might not get it have to setttle for a 1 yr test with the celtics.

SteBO
12-08-2011, 02:28 PM
No way the Knicks can get CP3 and/or Hill if they sign Chandler......but even so, Chandler on the Knicks is huge pickup and a huge upgrade from last year, it's laughable.....

iggypop123
12-08-2011, 02:29 PM
this is another perkins situation. glorified and overrated. knicks might be better going after nene.

Monta is beast
12-08-2011, 02:29 PM
Knick fans are absolutely disillusion if they think they can still get Paul, if they sign Chandler.

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:29 PM
If I was Tyson I would sign for $11 mil a year for 4 years with the Knicks

So theyhave more flexibility with Paul

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:29 PM
knicks media and fans need to chill out...they are not getting Paul, Chandler and Hill.

I won't chill out with overpaid/underachieving Chandler on Knicks!

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:29 PM
Someone wanna explain to me how they'd get Paul if they get Chandler? There simply isn't enough money. Come on Knicks fans don't be greedy. Chandler would change the entire structure of our team. Great move imo. I'd rather have Marc Gasol if we were going shopping for a center, but hey I won't complain.


Lol Greedy? The Warriors would have signed Paul and signed Chandler.

Anyhow, If Tyosn takes less then it could happen. The Knicks would have to drop Turiaf and a few other players.

airforceones25
12-08-2011, 02:29 PM
You would have trade Melo or Amare to get Paul.... Stupid move or the Knicks think they have no shot at Paul anyways.. Do you really seeing Paul signing on next year for MLE? Not going to happen!

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:29 PM
207 ppl wtffffff get Punk to run the point

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:30 PM
Knick fans are absolutely disillusion if they think they can still get Paul, if they sign Chandler.

Relax man, only 2 knicks fans have made that assumption lol

Celticsfan2007
12-08-2011, 02:30 PM
This is all fabrication. No way in hell the knicks sign Chandler IMO.

ShakeN'Bake
12-08-2011, 02:31 PM
How are they going to afford G-Hill and Chandler? Even with using the amnesty on Chauncey?

This is my question as well.

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:31 PM
If I was Tyson I would sign for $11 mil a year for 4 years with the Knicks

So theyhave more flexibility with Paul

Exactly. Chandler takes 9-10 mill over 4 years. Which opens some space for Paul.

Then the Knicks would and pay to re-sign role players like Fields.

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:31 PM
Breaking News: Phil Jackson contacted by the Knicks about coaching again lol

NickyNick
12-08-2011, 02:32 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For the Knicks to do the Tyson Chandler deal, they would be giving up on the hopes of signing Chris Paul as a free agent this summer.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:32 PM
alanhahnAlan Hahn


What I'm hearing involves Tyson Chandler and Chauncey Billups sign-and-trade scenario. PG candidates? How about Jamaal Tinsley. #fb

1 minute ago

knicks=love
12-08-2011, 02:33 PM
If I was Tyson I would sign for $11 mil a year for 4 years with the Knicks

So theyhave more flexibility with Paul

How are you on defense? Can you rebound? :p

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:33 PM
According to Ken Berger and Wojo of Yahoo. It's a S&T of Billups for Chandler/Barea?

There is more too it. Has to be.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:33 PM
Exactly. Chandler takes 9-10 mill over 4 years. Which opens some space for Paul.

Then the Knicks would and pay to re-sign role players like Fields.

No way that's gonna happen man.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:34 PM
ESPNSteinLineMarc Stein


Story nailed by @KBergCBS. Knicks have jumped ahead of GSW for Tyson Chandler. Source close to talks: "New York is Tyson's first choice."

9 minutes ago

Retweeted by alanhahn

mavwar53
12-08-2011, 02:34 PM
This is all fabrication. No way in hell the knicks sign Chandler IMO.

This is what I see, and I'm not saying this cause I want the warriors to get chandler cause I know they'd over pay for him but because it makes no sense at all.

kozelkid
12-08-2011, 02:34 PM
Well, at least they're finally realizing that Paul is just a dream. Good for them. Chandler is exactly what that team needs. They just shouldn't be stupid enough to offer him a deal like GSW did.

But still, Knicks are looking mighty dangerous with potentially the addition of Hill and Chandler.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:34 PM
Wow this is like the Melo thread 261 viewers lmao

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:35 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
For the Knicks to do the Tyson Chandler deal, they would be giving up on the hopes of signing Chris Paul as a free agent this summer.

I don't know, I still think Knicks are doing all this to lure CP3 to NYK for less money.

arlubas
12-08-2011, 02:35 PM
I don't know how they will be able to pull this off cap wise but if they do then all I have to say is YESSS!

Crab Dribble!
12-08-2011, 02:36 PM
I don't know, I still think Knicks are doing all this to lure CP3 to NYK for less money.

Their latest strategy is a Stoudamire for Paul swap.

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:36 PM
JJ Barea as a starter? Not sure about that.

mavwar53
12-08-2011, 02:36 PM
According to Ken Berger and Wojo of Yahoo. It's a S&T of Billups for Chandler/Barea?

There is more too it. Has to be.

That doesn't make sense to me, why would the mavs want chauncey at 15+mil when they could just get him for much cheaper if the knicks use the amnesty on him, also what use do they have for him at all.

NYSpirit1
12-08-2011, 02:37 PM
Speaking realistically, if reports are true that the Knicks are in the lead for Chandler, this is how it could go down.

The Knicks can amnesty Billups and go to Chandler and say, take less, 4 years, 36 million for us to keep our flexibility to sign Paul.

Paul loves Chandler and Paul's best friends with Melo. The chance to play with them and Amare and be the strong frontrunner for the championship for years to come would be overwhelming. Furthermore, he even told the Warriors to sign Chandler and they'd have better chances to sign him.

If the Knicks get Chandler to that deal, coupled with the $39 million from Amare and Melo, they can rid themselves of all remaining players on their team (putting them at $48 million of $58 million) and sign Paul to a 4 year, $40 million deal.

Sure, that is way less than he could get elsewhere, BUT one major proponent the Knicks have is they have a stock. Paul can invest in this stock and make a fortune alongside of advertisements and endorsements in the money juggernaut that is New York.

As a fan of any team, you'd have to admit this is kind of fishy considering the Knicks have planned to get Paul for years. Maybe Melo is brokering something behind the scenes, but if a scenario like this formed, I wouldn't be surprised.

Master Mind
12-08-2011, 02:37 PM
According to Ken Berger and Wojo of Yahoo. It's a S&T of Billups for Chandler/Barea?

There is more too it. Has to be.

Doesn't make sense for Dallas

BrandoCommando
12-08-2011, 02:37 PM
I'm confused.

Public Enemy #1
12-08-2011, 02:37 PM
Well, at least they're finally realizing that Paul is just a dream. Good for them. Chandler is exactly what that team needs. They just shouldn't be stupid enough to offer him a deal like GSW did.

But still, Knicks are looking mighty dangerous with potentially the addition of Hill and Chandler.

You're statement doesn't make any sense at all. Warriors need a center, they haven't had one in decades. So your statement that the Warriors don't NEED a center shows and proves you don't know what the **** your talking about. :D

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:37 PM
Their latest strategy is a Stoudamire for Paul swap.

No it's not. That's the Hornets fans fantasy of a trade.

BrandoCommando
12-08-2011, 02:37 PM
282 viewers now

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:38 PM
That doesn't make sense to me, why would the mavs want chauncey at 15+mil when they could just get him for much cheaper if the knicks use the amnesty on him, also what use do they have for him at all.

If the Knicks amnesty Chauncey, no way a team over the salary cap like Dallas can bid for them, because bidding for amnesty players will first go to teams under salary cap if I'm not mistaken.


Second, Chauncey will be back up to Kidd for one season, and since he's an expiring contract anyways, Mavs will then clear cap space in summer of 2012 to go after D-Will.

rhymeratic
12-08-2011, 02:38 PM
Time to smack some of yall idiots on here around a little bit.

1. The Knicks DO have flexibility to sign Chandler if they're using midlevel OR if they plan on amnestying Chauncey OR Sign & Trade with Dallas.

2. Toney Douglas can be solid starting PG temporarily.

3. Iman Shumpert is projected to be the future starting PG and has shown through entire lockout that the dude is potential rookie of the year candidate.

4. Dallas does need to clear some space on their squad so it is very possible a S&T consisting of JJ Barea and Chandler very real.

5. Knicks are a factor going forward and the rest of yall scrubby teams better start preparing for next year's draft.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:38 PM
Doesn't make sense for Dallas

Yes it does, they get expiring of Chauncey which clears cap space in summer 2012 to sign D-Will.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:39 PM
Well, at least they're finally realizing that Paul is just a dream. Good for them. Chandler is exactly what that team needs. They just shouldn't be stupid enough to offer him a deal like GSW did.

But still, Knicks are looking mighty dangerous with potentially the addition of Hill and Chandler.

Until Chandler's overrated/overpaid behind gets injured. Dallas made a smart move of having Haywood backin him up. Knicks have Jared Jeffries :facepalm:

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:40 PM
Wtf????? I don't want Billups on the Mavs

I rather keep Kidd and Roddy and run with it as our PGs

That would be horrible for us to do Billups for Chandler and JJ

Cuban makes smart trades, what is that about

gotoHcarolina52
12-08-2011, 02:41 PM
You can bet your *** that if this goes through, David Stern will market the hell out of the potential blockbuster Eddy Curry vs. Tyson Chandler matchup whenever the HEAT face the Knicks.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:41 PM
I'm confused.

my head hurts:speechless:

Cal827
12-08-2011, 02:41 PM
Knicks gotta watch it though, they don't want to be Eddie Curried again.

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:42 PM
Knicks looking to trade Turiaf to Denver for salary space.

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:43 PM
Don't help them out!!!!!

Just sit back and relax and watch it unfold

DoMeFavors
12-08-2011, 02:43 PM
Guess Paul told Melo stop waiting for me, im not coming there.

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:44 PM
Knicks gotta watch it though, they don't want to be Eddie Curried again.

Last time I checked, Eddy never won a ring and played next to a scoring PF. He'd fit right in.

Curry was a loser from day 1. He decided to waste his career away after Isiah was fired and then his personal life went down hill.

tbone2171
12-08-2011, 02:44 PM
Whom ever lands him will most likely overpay.. Chandler will decline this year imo

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:45 PM
Knicks gotta watch it though, they don't want to be Eddie Curried again.

That's why I hope Knicks dont make a deal with him. Ugh!

mavwar53
12-08-2011, 02:45 PM
If the Knicks amnesty Chauncey, no way a team over the salary cap like Dallas can bid for them, because bidding for amnesty players will first go to teams under salary cap if I'm not mistaken.


Second, Chauncey will be back up to Kidd for one season, and since he's an expiring contract anyways, Mavs will then clear cap space in summer of 2012 to go after D-Will.

True, my bad, forgot about that part for a minute

dhopisthename
12-08-2011, 02:46 PM
Speaking realistically, if reports are true that the Knicks are in the lead for Chandler, this is how it could go down.

The Knicks can amnesty Billups and go to Chandler and say, take less, 4 years, 36 million for us to keep our flexibility to sign Paul.

Paul loves Chandler and Paul's best friends with Melo. The chance to play with them and Amare and be the strong frontrunner for the championship for years to come would be overwhelming. Furthermore, he even told the Warriors to sign Chandler and they'd have better chances to sign him.

If the Knicks get Chandler to that deal, coupled with the $39 million from Amare and Melo, they can rid themselves of all remaining players on their team (putting them at $48 million of $58 million) and sign Paul to a 4 year, $40 million deal.

Sure, that is way less than he could get elsewhere, BUT one major proponent the Knicks have is they have a stock. Paul can invest in this stock and make a fortune alongside of advertisements and endorsements in the money juggernaut that is New York.

As a fan of any team, you'd have to admit this is kind of fishy considering the Knicks have planned to get Paul for years. Maybe Melo is brokering something behind the scenes, but if a scenario like this formed, I wouldn't be surprised.

no it doesn't work like that if they knicks sign tyson to a 12 mill per deal and adding the 40 mill that melo and amare make next year that adds up to 52 mill and then factor in the like 9 minimum contacts that must be added and they could only offer paul like 5 mill per season. Which btw I doubt paul would even take only 10 mill per season

meloman1592
12-08-2011, 02:46 PM
I'm completely done with all rumors...it's really to much to keep track of and most things don't even make sense. My head hurts

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:46 PM
Guess Paul told Melo stop waiting for me, im not coming there.

though he's good friends of Melo and Chandler:eyebrow:

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:47 PM
Wtf????? I don't want Billups on the Mavs

I rather keep Kidd and Roddy and run with it as our PGs

That would be horrible for us to do Billups for Chandler and JJ

Cuban makes smart trades, what is that about

For the 3rd time I am stating this...

With the expiring of Chauncey, they now clear cap space for summer of 2012 to get D-Will.

arlubas
12-08-2011, 02:48 PM
2. Toney Douglas can be solid starting PG temporarily.

3. Iman Shumpert is projected to be the future starting PG and has shown through entire lockout that the dude is potential rookie of the year candidate.

No & No.

Now keep smacking.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:48 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Warriors believe that they've lost Tyson Chandler to the Knicks, sources tell Y! Sports

:speechless::speechless::speechless:

Monta is beast
12-08-2011, 02:49 PM
Knicks fans are so ignorant. Even though all the reports say if they sign Chandler they have no **** at getting Paul, they still believe they can.

MeLaPelan!
12-08-2011, 02:49 PM
Watch hiim being a trade piece to land CP3 this season, lol.

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 02:49 PM
My head hurts

This is more confusing than last year when we had Superstars as free agents

mavwar53
12-08-2011, 02:49 PM
For the 3rd time I am stating this...

With the expiring of Chauncey, they now clear cap space for summer of 2012 to get D-Will.

They can do that by just letting tyson and jj walk, billups adds very little to the mavs, the have kid and roddy would only have his growth stunted for another year if they get billups

justinnum1
12-08-2011, 02:50 PM
mark stein
Source close to Tyson Chandler talks just told http://ESPN.com: "It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks."

sounds like this is done.

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:50 PM
Knicks fans are so ignorant. Even though all the reports say if they sign Chandler they have no **** at getting Paul, they still believe they can.

You're just angry because your Warriors didn't get Tyson Chandler, which would have been the luring incentive of Chris Paul accepting a trade to the Warriors.

kozelkid
12-08-2011, 02:50 PM
Wtf????? I don't want Billups on the Mavs

I rather keep Kidd and Roddy and run with it as our PGs

That would be horrible for us to do Billups for Chandler and JJ

Cuban makes smart trades, what is that about

For one, Billups can play the 2.

For another, he's obviously saving cap for the big fish in 2012.

I think he realizes that the team is a little old to repeat and Chandler is not worth the contract he is demanding.

Somehow, I got a feeling that it's gonna end really badly for the Nets.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:52 PM
ESPNSteinLine: Source close to Tyson Chandler talks just told http://t.co/Ir9HrM0O: "It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks."

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:52 PM
Knicks fans are so ignorant. Even though all the reports say if they sign Chandler they have no **** at getting Paul, they still believe they can.

He takes less. Paul takes less. Bingo.

We'll see.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 02:52 PM
Last time I checked, Eddy never won a ring and played next to a scoring PF. He'd fit right in.

Curry was a loser from day 1. He decided to waste his career away after Isiah was fired and then his personal life went down hill.

True, but I mean.. I question his overall effort, now that he has a ring (I really hope he isn't going to get like 15 million per year like he was aiming for apparently). I also expect his numbers to go down a little since Amare is more of an inside PF than Dirk is.

If you guys get him for like 10-11 mill, then it's a pretty good signing.

Slimsim
12-08-2011, 02:52 PM
what the **** is going on

kozelkid
12-08-2011, 02:53 PM
You're statement doesn't make any sense at all. Warriors need a center, they haven't had one in decades. So your statement that the Warriors don't NEED a center shows and proves you don't know what the **** your talking about. :D

GSW needs a center, sure. They don't need to be paying Chandler 15mil a year for his services though.

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:53 PM
ESPNSteinLine: Source close to Tyson Chandler talks just told http://t.co/Ir9HrM0O: "It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks.

kozelkid
12-08-2011, 02:54 PM
He takes less. Paul takes less. Bingo.

We'll see.

You mean like 5mil a year each?

Riiiiiight.

Wade>You
12-08-2011, 02:54 PM
Knicks get a FA, 300 people view the thread.

That's part of what makes a big market big: fan base.

When Derrick Rose is getting MVP chants from Bulls fans in every NBA city that show up to their road games, that's a big market.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:54 PM
mark stein

sounds like this is done.

FML....in sports!!!! :mad: :bang:

This guy is overrated. I hope his *** goes to Golden State!!

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:55 PM
True, but I mean.. I question his overall effort, now that he has a ring (I really hope he isn't going to get like 15 million per year like he was aiming for apparently). I also expect his numbers to go down a little since Amare is more of an inside PF than Dirk is.

If you guys get him for like 10-11 mill, then it's a pretty good signing.


Not really. Amare is a jump shooting big.

Public Enemy #1
12-08-2011, 02:55 PM
You're just angry because your Warriors didn't get Tyson Chandler, which would have been the luring incentive of Chris Paul accepting a trade to the Warriors.

Calm down Laker fan. Gotta wait for it to unfold tomorrow. :D

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:55 PM
320 holy hell get back to work

Monta is beast
12-08-2011, 02:56 PM
wtf????? I don't want billups on the mavs

i rather keep kidd and roddy and run with it as our pgs

that would be horrible for us to do billups for chandler and jj

cuban makes smart trades, what is that about

hahaha

KB-Pau-DH2012
12-08-2011, 02:56 PM
Knicks get a FA, 300 people view the thread.

That's part of what makes a big market big: fan base.

When Derrick Rose is getting MVP chants from Bulls fans in every NBA city that show up to their road games, that's a big market.

No, it's probably because Chandler is the biggest free agent this summer because he just came off a career-changing season of helping a team get over the hump for a championship. ANd now his signing lures CP3 for next yr, creating a possible big 4

kozelkid
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Until Chandler's overrated/overpaid behind gets injured. Dallas made a smart move of having Haywood backin him up. Knicks have Jared Jeffries :facepalm:

If Brendan Haywood plays like his lackadaisical *** played with his new contract last season, then he is far from an assuring thing for Dallas. If he plays like he's capable of, then ya, Dallas has no issue. We'll see. Depending on what Chandler gets, I think this may be one of the first times I can say that Knicks have had a good offseason.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Now to see if Knicks elect to put Amare Stoudemire in trade proposals to New Orleans for CP3. Sources say it's one option Knicks considering

nycericanguy
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Now to see if Knicks elect to put Amare Stoudemire in trade proposals to New Orleans for CP3. Sources say it's one option Knicks considering

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Ken Berger on ESPN 1050: They will try to amnesty or trade Billups. Try moving Turiaf. Jumped ahead of Golden State. They are in the serious hunt for the defensive backbone that they have been lacking for a long time. Having Chandler would give the Knicks flexibility. Knicks are aware of Tyson's relationship with Chris Paul. They think that having Chandler will give Chris Paul a stronger chance to being committed. The only way to make sense to get Chris Paul is to trade either Melo or Amar'e straight up for Chris Paul. He only knows that the Celtics have on the table Rondo and Jeff Green in a sign and trade with also draft picks for Chris Paul.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Not really. Amare is a jump shooting big.

lol, tell me when he starts shooting from 21 feet out and starts hitting threes. If he does, then the rest of the NBA is absolutely screwed :D

iggypop123
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
sign and trade for billups. not bad, they get to keep their amnesty

Public Enemy #1
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Knicks get a FA, 300 people view the thread.

That's part of what makes a big market big: fan base.

When Derrick Rose is getting MVP chants from Bulls fans in every NBA city that show up to their road games, that's a big market.

MVP chants in every city? Don't know about that...

AIMelo=KillaDUO
12-08-2011, 02:57 PM
I can't wait for tomorrow!

justinnum1
12-08-2011, 02:58 PM
interesting this would make them a top 4 team in the east

$KnicksAndKobe$
12-08-2011, 02:58 PM
Booker T: WHAT THE HAIILLL!!

iggypop123
12-08-2011, 02:58 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Now to see if Knicks elect to put Amare Stoudemire in trade proposals to New Orleans for CP3. Sources say it's one option Knicks considering

wow i like it. better than celtics deal. about a wash with the lakers pau offer. think it woudl requrie a third team to make it work

SteBO
12-08-2011, 02:59 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Now to see if Knicks elect to put Amare Stoudemire in trade proposals to New Orleans for CP3. Sources say it's one option Knicks considering


ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Now to see if Knicks elect to put Amare Stoudemire in trade proposals to New Orleans for CP3. Sources say it's one option Knicks considering
That's their only option. Not enough money to go around at the end of the day...

Punk
12-08-2011, 02:59 PM
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Sources: Chandler to Knicks is "really close." I can tell you Chauncey Billups is stunned by these developments.

I'm sorry Chuancey :(

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 02:59 PM
320 holy hell get back to work

Work's slow right now man :laugh2:

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:00 PM
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Sources: Chandler to Knicks is "really close." I can tell you Chauncey Billups is stunned by these developments.

I'm sorry Chuancey :(

Well, when he joins the Heat and gives them that point guard they need, I'm sure he'll be fine :D.... just kidding, he'll probably be picked up by Cleveland so they can prevent that.

Monta is beast
12-08-2011, 03:00 PM
Source says Golden State expected to make hard run at RFA DeAndre Jordan if/when New York wins out on Chandler.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:01 PM
304 viewers lol

Imagine the viewers next year on the CP3, Williams and Howard threads if they choose to test the market.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:01 PM
I hope we send Billups back to Denver. I feel bad for the guy.

emman03
12-08-2011, 03:01 PM
if that's the case i guess billups has a chance to be in heat uniform :) for me

LBJ-DWADE-BATTIER-BOSH-DALEMBERT or if lucky (NENE)
>CP3-HILL-MELO-STAT-CHANDLER

DWADE>CP3
LBJ>MELO
STAT=BOSH(MUSCLES!!!)
BATTIER>HILL
DALEMBERT<CHANDLER or NENE>CHANDLER

:) AND MIAMI HAS GREATER BENCH THAN KNICKS HAS :)

csenoner
12-08-2011, 03:01 PM
shumpert lmfao


what you dont realize is that all he needs to do is handle the rock, get the ball to melo and stat and play hard on d. no one said he needs to be be an all star as a rook. he'l be a solid role player as a rook and will allow the knicks to have one of the best defensive back courts in the nba with douglas, shump, hill and fields.

meanwhile the heat were rollin with chalmers, eddie house and bibby last year and you guys made the finals. id take shumpert without having seen him play a minute in the nba over those 3 any day.

that laughter just lets me know you are scared to death and hoping it doesnt happen.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 03:01 PM
Work's slow right now man :laugh2:

Im out w hernia surgery....:(

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:02 PM
sam_amick Sam Amick
League sources say the Houston has been trying to put together a three-team deal with the Lakers and New Orleans in which Paul goes to LA.

ShakeN'Bake
12-08-2011, 03:02 PM
wow i like it. better than celtics deal. about a wash with the lakers pau offer. think it woudl requrie a third team to make it work

NOH would be a fool to say no to Amare.

Lucky.
12-08-2011, 03:02 PM
Where does Chauncey go?

RevisIsland
12-08-2011, 03:04 PM
I don't particularly wanna trade Amare for CP3, show some ****ing loyalty none of this would be happening right now without him, I'd rather take a run at Nash next summer.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 03:04 PM
Where does Chauncey go?

Celtics he's over 35:D

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 03:05 PM
The loser in all of this would be Amare if he gets traded to New Orleans for CP3 with that long contract lol

He would prob cuss a lot of people out and finally play more hungry than he ever has and be a top 5 NBA player

Or worst case scenario pull a Carson Palmer lol

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:05 PM
Trade Melo for CP3. Amar'e is responsible for your resurrection lol

LongIslandIcedZ
12-08-2011, 03:05 PM
I dont want anyone to attack me because I really dont understand the complications of the cap, I just love watching Knicks basketball.

If hypothetically they sign Chandler to a 1 year, 8 million dollar deal, and give up on Chris Paul until the end of the year. At the end of the year couldnt they resign Chandler and they can go over the cap and just pay a tax? Couldn't they sign CP to a somewhat discounted deal and then resign Chandler without it affecting the cap.

I'm not one of those ridiculous Knick fans, I just really dont understand what counts towards the cap and what counts to luxury tax.

Thanks

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:06 PM
We better not touch Amare.

Just go after Steve Nash.

Pierzynski4Prez
12-08-2011, 03:06 PM
If they are using the Amnesty on Chauncey to make room to sign Chandler, they then are not able to trade for CP3, since they won't have contracts anywhere near close to the amount they need to be. Unless one of Amare, Melo, or Chandler are in the deal of course.

SteBO
12-08-2011, 03:06 PM
:sigh: ****, add the NY Knicks fanbase to the list of people that I have to deal with next year. The East will be fun as hell.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:06 PM
Trade Melo for CP3. Amar'e is responsible for your resurrection lol

No. No Melo = No CP3.

THE GIPPER
12-08-2011, 03:07 PM
sam_amick Sam Amick
League sources say the Houston has been trying to put together a three-team deal with the Lakers and New Orleans in which Paul goes to LA.

Why would houston try and make a deal for paul to go to LA?

SteBO
12-08-2011, 03:07 PM
If they are using the Amnesty on Chauncey to make room to sign Chandler, they then are not able to trade for CP3, since they won't have contracts anywhere near close to the amount they need to be. Unless one of Amare, Melo, or Chandler are in the deal of course.
Amare is the one in the potential deal......

Iron24th
12-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Paul
Grant Hill
Melo
Amare
Chandler

RIP the rest of the NBA

OMG :speechless:

You think they'll get CP3 for free???
The article says if they get CP3,they'll have to give Stat.

ChicagoRox
12-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Meh. Unless they get rid of Mike D not really worried. Now if the Knicks can get Phil Jackson. Then there might be a problem.

leftie5
12-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Yeah, I am not even a Knicks fan and if they trade Amar'e for CP3 I would be pissed since Amar'e has only been there one season. I know it is a business, but why not just wait for Paul to become a free agent since he seems so intent on playing with Chandler/ going to NY?

iggypop123
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Where does Chauncey go?

dallas in a sign and trade

NYKnicks4511
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
who runs the point if they throw billups out??

Douglas has proven he's more than capable as he played last year with a nagging shoulder injury.

He's 100% this year, let's see how things go....

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Who ever made this is a fortune teller.

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss39/DJMicahrules/TysonChandlerKnicks.jpg

NYYCowboys
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Something else has gotta be happening because I doubt we use Toney Douglas as our primary PG...

justinnum1
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Do the knicks have any clue what they are doing?

shizzle09
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Paul
Grant Hill
Melo
Amare
Chandler

RIP the rest of the NBA

OMG :speechless:

are you kidding? do you even know there's a cap in the nba? Paul would need to sign for chump change to do that.

Pierzynski4Prez
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
if that's the case i guess billups has a chance to be in heat uniform :) for me

LBJ-DWADE-BATTIER-BOSH-DALEMBERT or if lucky (NENE)
>CP3-HILL-MELO-STAT-CHANDLER

DWADE>CP3
LBJ>MELO
STAT=BOSH(MUSCLES!!!)
BATTIER>HILL
DALEMBERT<CHANDLER or NENE>CHANDLER

:) AND MIAMI HAS GREATER BENCH THAN KNICKS HAS :)

Yea if like 28 other teams who get a chance at him 1st pass on him.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Why would houston try and make a deal for paul to go to LA?

They probably get something good in return... maybe Bynum... while NO gets picks from both Houston and LA and some prospects off Houston (Patterson)

iggypop123
12-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Yeah, I am not even a Knicks fan and if they trade Amar'e for CP3 I would be pissed since Amar'e has only been there one season. I know it is a business, but why not just wait for Paul to become a free agent since he seems so intent on playing with Chandler/ going to NY?

no room. unless he takes a paycut and signs 3 mil per year. a trade is the only scenario

jason6692
12-08-2011, 03:10 PM
this is stupid for the knicks. yu keep melo cp3 and amare. why let amare walk for chandler ? thats the dumbest thing ever like seriously ever. chandler doesn't even compare to amare

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:10 PM
One day, we are going to see a star sign a minimum one year contract in their prime in order to just win with an already decent stacked team... and this forum is going to blow up lol

justinnum1
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
kberg
If the Knicks' next move is to engage NOR in CP3 talks for Stoudemire, this is not something that Amar'e would be happy with, at all.

DoMeFavors
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
Something else has gotta be happening because I doubt we use Toney Douglas as our primary PG...

Starbury or Iverson

jmoney85
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
Time to smack some of yall idiots on here around a little bit.

1. The Knicks DO have flexibility to sign Chandler if they're using midlevel OR if they plan on amnestying Chauncey OR Sign & Trade with Dallas.

2. Toney Douglas can be solid starting PG temporarily.

3. Iman Shumpert is projected to be the future starting PG and has shown through entire lockout that the dude is potential rookie of the year candidate.

4. Dallas does need to clear some space on their squad so it is very possible a S&T consisting of JJ Barea and Chandler very real.

5. Knicks are a factor going forward and the rest of yall scrubby teams better start preparing for next year's draft.

:facepalm:

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
Meh. Unless they get rid of Mike D not really worried. Now if the Knicks can get Phil Jackson. Then there might be a problem.

Really? You guys lost the season series to us. 3-1.

D'antoni will make the offense unstoppable. Woodson makes the defensive schemes.

oak2455
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
Do the knicks have any clue what they are doing?

taking over the east:rolleyes:

oak2455
12-08-2011, 03:12 PM
Heyyyy 9,000 post do we get CP3 now:D

jmoney85
12-08-2011, 03:13 PM
knick fans make me wanna puke

RevisIsland
12-08-2011, 03:13 PM
If we were to trade Amare for CP3 though, I doubt New Orleans would be too keen on making that deal. Just throwing this out there though:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7wd7nwu

The Knicks trade Amare and Toney to get Paul. Amare along with Trevor Ariza and Toney go to Indiana, Paul goes to New York, Hibbert, Collison and Paul George go New Orleans. I didn't put THAT much thought into this, but I think it's the only way Indiana gets their star. Ariza steps in and replaces Paul George, and Indiana runs out a starting 5 of George Hill, Ariza, Danny Granger, Amare and center to be determined later. It's not ideal, but I think it's better than what they have now. New Orleans gets three young pieces to rebuild with and they dump the Ariza contract. Again I didn't put too much thought into this, but I think it's interesting.

nate2usmc
12-08-2011, 03:13 PM
Im out w hernia surgery....:(

Damn man, that sucks. Hope you get better soon. All these rumors are doin a good job keeping you distracted huh lol

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:13 PM
kberg

Well yeah, there is a reason he signed long term.. he wanted the team to win... The Knicks would turn their back on a bunch of ppl with moves like this.. probably won't have an effect on people signing there in the future, but who knows.

Pierzynski4Prez
12-08-2011, 03:13 PM
Really? You guys lost the season series to us. 3-1.

D'antoni will make the offense unstoppable. Woodson makes the defensive schemes.

Yea and we beat the **** out of miami in the regular season.

How many games did you win in the playoffs?

AIMelo=KillaDUO
12-08-2011, 03:13 PM
Starbury or Iverson

:drool: plz don't get my hopes up.

RevisIsland
12-08-2011, 03:14 PM
I dont want anyone to attack me because I really dont understand the complications of the cap, I just love watching Knicks basketball.

If hypothetically they sign Chandler to a 1 year, 8 million dollar deal, and give up on Chris Paul until the end of the year. At the end of the year couldnt they resign Chandler and they can go over the cap and just pay a tax? Couldn't they sign CP to a somewhat discounted deal and then resign Chandler without it affecting the cap.

I'm not one of those ridiculous Knick fans, I just really dont understand what counts towards the cap and what counts to luxury tax.

Thanks

We'd have to renounce our rights to Chandler, so it'd be impossible.

KnickaBocka.44
12-08-2011, 03:14 PM
I like the move as a knick fan. Everyone forgets that CP3 has a bum knee and his numbers in basically every category are going down already.

Get Chandler now and sign Nash at a much better rate in the offseason. Haters will say that an eastcoast version of the suns wouldnt fair any better under Mike D but think about the fact that the Suns never had a wing player like carmelo or a defensive center like chandler on those teams.

Next year is the year the knicks reach the promised land, before the Heat...and without 3 max contracts.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:14 PM
Sounds to me like the media is trying to start this Amare for Paul nonsense to piss Amare off. We aren't trading him if we are going after Chandler. If we wanted to trade him, we would do it for Dwight.

JerseysFinest
12-08-2011, 03:14 PM
Big ups to the Knicks if they can pull this off. NO ONE will be saying anything about their defense belong sub-par any longer.

Chi StateOfMind
12-08-2011, 03:15 PM
Well if they sign Chandler they wanna trade Stat to get Paul.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:15 PM
Heyyyy 9,000 post do we get CP3 now:D

That's how it works... damn I better increase my post total so the Raptors can go get Howard next offseason lol :p

oak2455
12-08-2011, 03:15 PM
Damn man, that sucks. Hope you get better soon. All these rumors are doin a good job keeping you distracted huh lol

****kkk yeaaa :clap::clap:

Swashcuff
12-08-2011, 03:16 PM
:drool: plz don't get my hopes up.

You probably masturbated at the thought of it :laugh2:

ShakeN'Bake
12-08-2011, 03:16 PM
One day, we are going to see a star sign a minimum one year contract in their prime in order to just win with an already decent stacked team... and this forum is going to blow up lol

That would be hilarious.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:16 PM
lol best potential signing thread, EVER.

RC3
12-08-2011, 03:17 PM
Even though this is good for the knicks. It looks like a deal isiah would make. :(

nycericanguy
12-08-2011, 03:17 PM
If we were to trade Amare for CP3 though, I doubt New Orleans would be too keen on making that deal. Just throwing this out there though:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7wd7nwu

The Knicks trade Amare and Toney to get Paul. Amare along with Trevor Ariza and Toney go to Indiana, Paul goes to New York, Hibbert, Collison and Paul George go New Orleans. I didn't put THAT much thought into this, but I think it's the only way Indiana gets their star. Ariza steps in and replaces Paul George, and Indiana runs out a starting 5 of George Hill, Ariza, Danny Granger, Amare and center to be determined later. It's not ideal, but I think it's better than what they have now. New Orleans gets three young pieces to rebuild with and they dump the Ariza contract. Again I didn't put too much thought into this, but I think it's interesting.

funny, i was thinking Amare to IND in a 3 way too with Hibbert going to NOH. and indiana then signing Nene.

Wade>You
12-08-2011, 03:18 PM
One day, we are going to see a star sign a minimum one year contract in their prime in order to just win with an already decent stacked team... and this forum is going to blow up lol:laugh2: that would be epic

knicks=love
12-08-2011, 03:19 PM
I just saw this on twitter. Broussard RT it (can't quote it right now. On my iPhone)

Source close to Tyson says he will most likely be a knick (98% says he is)

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:20 PM
Looks like a deal will happen. Wow.

PacersForLife
12-08-2011, 03:21 PM
If we were to trade Amare for CP3 though, I doubt New Orleans would be too keen on making that deal. Just throwing this out there though:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7wd7nwu

The Knicks trade Amare and Toney to get Paul. Amare along with Trevor Ariza and Toney go to Indiana, Paul goes to New York, Hibbert, Collison and Paul George go New Orleans. I didn't put THAT much thought into this, but I think it's the only way Indiana gets their star. Ariza steps in and replaces Paul George, and Indiana runs out a starting 5 of George Hill, Ariza, Danny Granger, Amare and center to be determined later. It's not ideal, but I think it's better than what they have now. New Orleans gets three young pieces to rebuild with and they dump the Ariza contract. Again I didn't put too much thought into this, but I think it's interesting.

:pity:
People don't understand that we are not trading Paul George or Roy Hibbert do they... We would love to have Amare and honestly, giving up all those players just for Amare basically is a complete waste. Ariza does not play the 2 and we wouldn't trade Roy unless we got a good center in return, maybe if we knew we could get Marc Gasol which is unlikely to happen.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:22 PM
Paul to LA looks realistic. Again, why trade Amare for Paul when we could trade him for Dwight and not sign Chandler? Makes no sense. I wish the media would stick to legit stories instead of fairy tale deals.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:23 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
As SI.com reports, the Lakers, Hornets and Rockets are engaged in 3-way talks on deal that would send Chris Paul to Lakers.


WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Lakers are trying to do a deal for Chris Paul that will allow them to keep Andrew Bymum, front office source says.

BKLYNpigeon
12-08-2011, 03:24 PM
NY will use Tyson Chandler as trade bait for Dwight Howard next year.

kozelkid
12-08-2011, 03:24 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
As SI.com reports, the Lakers, Hornets and Rockets are engaged in 3-way talks on deal that would send Chris Paul to Lakers.


WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Lakers are trying to do a deal for Chris Paul that will allow them to keep Andrew Bymum, front office source says.

And now, I'm officially scared.

Fortunately, I think the Devoss family (Orlando Magic owners) are still bitter for the whole shady dealing with Shaq and won't take LA's offer.

GoferKing_
12-08-2011, 03:25 PM
When dose the trade window close?

kozelkid
12-08-2011, 03:25 PM
NY will use Tyson Chandler as trade bait for Dwight Howard next year.

By next year, Chandler's value will likely plummet and he'll be viewed as an overpayed player.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:26 PM
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Hornets have quietly checked out league wide interest in Pau last 48 hours. Called New Jersey, Nets not interested.

aceindahole212
12-08-2011, 03:26 PM
In the latest twist of his expected departure from the Dallas Mavericks, Tyson Chandler is closing in on a deal with the New York Knicks, according to sources close to the process.

"New York is Tyson's first choice," one source told ESPN.com, confirming a Thursday report from CBSSports.com that the Knicks have jumped ahead of the Golden State Warriors in the race to sign Chandler.

"It's 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks."

More on the Mavericks

News, notes and analysis of the Mavericks from ESPNDallas.com's Jeff Caplan, Tim MacMahon and our team. Blog

To create sufficient salary-cap space to sign Chandler, New York is expected to shed the contracts of Chauncey Billups and Ronny Turiaf, through either trades or the forthcoming amnesty clause.

Signing Chandler, sources said, could free up the Knicks to offer star forward Amare Stoudemire to the New Orleans Hornets in a trade scenario for Chris Paul, who badly wants to reunite with Chandler after their time together with the Hornets. Sources say that's one option New York is considering.

CSNBayArea.com reported that the Warriors are trying to sweeten a four-year offer to Chandler valued at $60 million to outbid the Knicks.

The Warriors, sources said, have made Chandler their No. 1 roster target, no matter what happens with their recent trade talks with the Hornets about Paul.

The Mavericks, meanwhile, are fully operating under the premise that Chandler is gone.

Another telling sign that Chandler's time in Dallas has come to an end emerged Thursday, when sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Mavericks offered Chandler to the Orlando Magic as part of a proposed sign-and-trade deal for All-Star center Dwight Howard.

No one connected to the Mavericks has said outright that Chandler's time in Dallas is over. But it's now the working assumption in Dallas that Chandler will definitely be leaving the Mavericks -- despite being credited with changing the defensive culture of a team that lost in the first round of the playoffs three times in the previous four years before its 2010-11 championship breakthrough.

Negotiations between the Mavericks and Chandler are essentially frozen, sources said. And any hope of a U-turn has all but evaporated because Dallas is determined to take as much salary-cap space as possible into the summer of 2012, even if that means parting with such an important piece of the first championship in franchise history.

Two sources briefed on the matter used the same words to describe the situation when asked about Chandler by ESPN.com: "He's not coming back."

The Mavericks have taken such a firm negotiating stance with Chandler because they fear that matching the offers for the 29-year-old will not only take them out of the race for 2012 free-agent stars Howard, Deron Williams and Chris Paul, but also prevent them from having the down-the-road financial flexibility to find a younger cornerstone player to team with Dirk Nowitzki as the 33-year-old face of the franchise gets older.

Dobbs Two sources briefed on the matter used the same words to describe the situation when asked about Chandler by ESPN.com: "He's not coming back."

Dallas strongly believes that it will be a finalist for all three of those top stars next summer, since none of them -- no matter where they are this season -- are expected to sign contract extensions, sources close to the situation said. That's because the new labor deal expected to be ratified Thursday by NBA players and owners makes it more advantageous for Howard, Williams and Paul to opt out of their current contracts in July and then proceed to free agency.

The Warriors and Rockets have already met face-to-face with Chandler this week, with sources telling ESPN.com that the 7-footer is likely to sign a four-year deal worth more than $50 million with one of his top three suitors. The Nets, trying to upgrade their roster to seal a long-term commitment from Williams, remain in that group, despite the fact they haven't directly met yet with Chandler.

Warriors general manager Larry Riley said Wednesday on KNBR-AM that the team was "working every possible angle" and felt positive that its pursuit of Chandler was moving in the right direction.

"I'll tell you that Tyson Chandler is a guy we'd really love to have here in the Bay Area," Warriors general manager Larry Riley said Wednesday on KNBR-AM when asked if Chandler is Golden State's first, second and third priority. "You got it. You stated it, so I'm not going to. You've got the picture of where we are.

"When (new owners) Joe (Lacob) and Peter (Guber) bought this team, they bought it to be aggressive and build a team. You can't say, 'Oh gee, we can't get into a free-agent race.' You have to get into the race and take your best shot. We'll win those eventually, and I'm thinking we've got a great chance right now."

NBA front-office sources say the Mavericks have already begun courting bargain-priced big men, most notably former lottery pick Brandan Wright. Incumbents Brendan Haywood and Ian Mahinmi will obviously get the first crack at Chandler's minutes.

The challenge for the Mavericks in adding depth to their center rotation is getting quality players to take short-term deals to preserve maximum cap space for their summer of 2012 recruiting plans. The Mavericks did try to convince Chandler to accept a one-year deal worth a whopping $20 million, but there was never real hope of that happening, sources said.

As far back as last week, as negotiations with the Mavericks quickly stalled, Chandler told ESPN.com in a phone interview: "I really think I'm going to be on a new team come training camp."

In addition to pursuing Chandler as part of its efforts to lock in Williams before the team's long-awaited move to Brooklyn next season, New Jersey remains at the forefront of the chase for Denver Nuggets free agent Nene, along with the Nuggets, Rockets and Indiana Pacers.

ESPN.com reported last week that the Nets are prepared to offer Brook Lopez and two future first-round picks to Orlando, while also absorbing Hedo Turkoglu's contract, in hopes of convincing the Magic to send them Howard. But the Nets also forged ahead with the pursuit of Nene and Chandler to ensure that they land a top-flight big man, figuring that signing either one would also only enhance their collection of trade assets to offer the Magic for Howard.

The Warriors might have to use the forthcoming amnesty clause on guard Charlie Bell or even center Andris Biedrins to create enough cap space to win the bidding for Chandler. But Golden State is arguably the strongest current threat to sign Chandler away. Awash in scorers, Golden State is looking for a defensive-minded anchor to complement Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry and David Lee.

Houston, meanwhile, simply needs a top-flight center after the retirement of Yao Ming and continues to press hard for Nene or Chandler.

Chandler maintains that staying in Dallas has always been his first choice, but he expressed disappointment last week that communication between the sides was minimal from the end of the NBA Finals in mid-June and the June 30 deadline for a contract extension.

The Mavericks maintain that they were reluctant to talk about an extension before July 1 because no one knew how drastic changes to the NBA's collective bargaining agreement would be at that time.

The best estimates in circulation suggest that the Mavericks would only have roughly $5 million in cap space for the summer of 2012 if they match an offer for Chandler, even if Dallas' other free agents, such as Caron Butler and J.J. Barea, are let go as expected.

To have the needed cap space to bid for a player of Paul's or Williams' caliber if Chandler is retained, Dallas would likely need to set free either backup center Brendan Haywood or forward Shawn Marion through the amnesty clause, bid farewell to 2012 free agent-to-be Jason Terry and perhaps even be forced to send away younger prospects like Corey Brewer or Rodrigue Beaubois in trades that bring back no salary.

Chandler, 29, was acquired by the Mavericks in July 2010 in a deal sending Erick Dampier to the Charlotte Bobcats. But Chandler was widely billed at the time as a consolation prize, after Dampier's cap-friendly contract failed to get Dallas in the bidding for the league's marquee free agents -- LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh among them -- through various sign-and-trade offers.

Yet, Chandler wound up meshing with Nowitzki better than anyone anticipated, supplying a blend of length, athleticism, rim protection and vocal leadership that no big man who previously lined up alongside the eventual NBA Finals MVP had ever provided in Dallas.

After missing nearly 70 games over the previous two seasons through injury, Chandler wound up playing in 74 regular season games and finished third in the league's Defensive Player of the Year voting.

In the Western Conference finals, Chandler helped Dallas to a 4-1 series win over the same Oklahoma City Thunder team that traded for him in February 2009 and then rescinded the trade one day later because of concerns about a toe injury.

Marc Stein covers the NBA for ESPN.com.

I think Amare for CP3 is on the way.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:28 PM
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Hornets have quietly checked out league wide interest in Pau last 48 hours. Called New Jersey, Nets not interested.


So this might very well be an extended 3 team trade, with the Hornets shipping off Gasol to someone else.... I don't know many teams willing to ship a lot out for an older large contract.

JordansBulls
12-08-2011, 03:29 PM
And now, I'm officially scared.

Fortunately, I think the Devoss family (Orlando Magic owners) are still bitter for the whole shady dealing with Shaq and won't take LA's offer.

That just opens up Dwight coming to the Bulls.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:30 PM
I think Amare for CP3 is on the way.

No It's not. We aren't stupid.

Punk
12-08-2011, 03:32 PM
Tyson is our Plan B. Paul is going to LA.

The Amare trade talk is to rattle the team as always.

gatkins11
12-08-2011, 03:32 PM
So Knick fans, tell me how you're going to pay for CP3, Melo, Stat, and Chandler.

aceindahole212
12-08-2011, 03:32 PM
Ok go on hoopshype.com it says the Knicks are contemplating including Amare in the CP3 deal.

KnickaBocka.44
12-08-2011, 03:33 PM
What are the chances Chandler + Barea end up in NY via Sign and trade?

king4day
12-08-2011, 03:33 PM
WFAN said Amar'e for Paul could be next.

KnickaBocka.44
12-08-2011, 03:34 PM
So Knick fans, tell me how you're going to pay for CP3, Melo, Stat, and Chandler.

We aren't. Nash will be our PG next year.

supermario42
12-08-2011, 03:34 PM
This is bitter sweet. Because sources close to the knicks are saying that amare may get traded for paul. Idk this is all confusing to me. Hears the article about it. Just copy and paste into the url if not highlighted.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7330900/tyson-chandler-dallas-mavericks-nears-deal-new-york-knicks-sources-say

J4KOP99
12-08-2011, 03:34 PM
If I'm the Knicks, I only trade Amare if it means Dwight Howard is coming back in return.

I wouldn't trade Amare for Paul.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:35 PM
At times like this, I bet NO is wishing they retained Collison and deal Paul for a King's ransom a year ago lol

phlp_bj
12-08-2011, 03:35 PM
With the Knicks close to acquiring Tyson Chandler, they may begin exploring trade scenarios for Chris Paul involving Amar'e Stoudemire.

Paul is widely believed to prefer a deal that ends up with him going to the Knicks.

https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine/status/144852313922748416

LongIslandIcedZ
12-08-2011, 03:35 PM
So Knick fans, tell me how you're going to pay for CP3, Melo, Stat, and Chandler.

How many Knick fans have claimed that this will be our rotation? I can understand being an *** when Knick fans deserve to be taken down a notch, but dont be an *** when almost all Knick fans understand we wont have both.

bowdown27
12-08-2011, 03:36 PM
wow i didn't honestly expect them to go after chandler but if they can pick him up what a pick up !!! I wouldn't even be worried about getting cp3. I'd be happy with our team.

aceindahole212
12-08-2011, 03:36 PM
You do trade Amare for Paul because having CP3, Melo and Chandler is > then Melo, Amare and Chandler. Plus Amare plays no defense and has a bad back.

Wade>You
12-08-2011, 03:39 PM
What's the PSD record for most posts in one hour for a thread?

KnIckNy212
12-08-2011, 03:39 PM
If we amnesty Billups and find a way to trade Turiaf it gives us the space to sign Chandler :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Wade>You
12-08-2011, 03:40 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine/status/144852313922748416Wow, that would suck for Amare. He signed their hoping to turn the Knicks around and he won't be there to see it happen.

Cal827
12-08-2011, 03:40 PM
Watch Amar'e demand Melo to be traded to add to this soap opera.

KnIckNy212
12-08-2011, 03:41 PM
Agree 100%

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 03:41 PM
Paul, Melo, and Amare sound wayyyyy better than Paul, Melo, and Chandler lol

There will ALWAYS be defensive centers, why pay $15 mil for one when you can pick up someone for MLE and use the rest on supporting cast

They should wait til the summer for CP3

gatkins11
12-08-2011, 03:42 PM
We aren't. Nash will be our PG next year.

Doesn't he have a large contract for this year as well?

BKLYNpigeon
12-08-2011, 03:42 PM
the kincks are dumb.

they should have waited for Melo this season as a FA.

and they should have declined the Team Option on Billips this seson so they wouldnt have to waste their amnesty clause on him.

Swashcuff
12-08-2011, 03:43 PM
What's the PSD record for most posts in one hour for a thread?

Dunno but no doubt it was set with the Decision thread.... that caused PSD to crash

heyman321
12-08-2011, 03:44 PM
They would rather have chandler and Paul than Amare and Paul? Are Knicks FO stupid or is this story just too ridiculous?

Sactown
12-08-2011, 03:44 PM
This made my day :D

NYsFinest
12-08-2011, 03:44 PM
the kincks are dumb.

they should have waited for Melo this season as a FA.

and they should have declined the Team Option on Billips this seson so they wouldnt have to waste their amnesty clause on him.

They are trading Billups....

LTBaByyy
12-08-2011, 03:45 PM
Paul, Melo, Chandler wont even get you a top 4 seed in the East

Just being honest, They need Amare more than they need Melo

tcav701
12-08-2011, 03:45 PM
The good old New York Knicks back to overpaying people and living in salary cap hell.

jason6692
12-08-2011, 03:46 PM
they NEED AMARE MELO AND CP3. replace amare with chandler ? ********

NYsFinest
12-08-2011, 03:46 PM
They would rather have chandler and Paul than Amare and Paul? Are Knicks FO stupid or is this story just too ridiculous?

They couldnt have all three... The Chandler trade is compeltely different from the Amar'e trade.

Its:

Paul, Melo, Chandler vs. Billups, Melo, Amare

still stupid?!

BigCityofDreams
12-08-2011, 03:46 PM
We aren't. Nash will be our PG next year.

I'm not in favor of that.

J4KOP99
12-08-2011, 03:46 PM
Only way they should trade stat is to get Dwight...

Geek
12-08-2011, 03:47 PM
Lol

Pierzynski4Prez
12-08-2011, 03:47 PM
Not sure if I missed it, but do we know the length and amount of the Chandler contract?

nycsports2
12-08-2011, 03:47 PM
this would be great lol