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MagicBucsSox
12-06-2011, 06:43 PM
http://howardthedunk.com/2011/12/06/magic-attempting-to-acquire-deron-williams/

ee
12-06-2011, 06:46 PM
not gonna happen....

xxplayerxx23
12-06-2011, 06:47 PM
why on earth would the nets trade Deron williams? Lol there trying lopez 3 first rounders for howard

Avenged
12-06-2011, 06:47 PM
Unless Dwight is being offered.. I don't see this happening.

LakersKB24
12-06-2011, 06:49 PM
Even less likely than CP3 to Orlando because the Nets have an important thing the Hornets don't: leverage!
Deron already said that he leans towards resigning with the Nets, why would they trade him for some bad contracts?

Plus the Nets need Deron to be the face of their Brooklyn project there's no way they accept any trade the Magic offer them

ee
12-06-2011, 06:49 PM
BK would immediately get fired if this goes through......

xxplayerxx23
12-06-2011, 06:52 PM
Unless Dwight is being offered.. I don't see this happening.

that would be crazy dwight for deron williams, Lol how does that help anyone though?

king4day
12-06-2011, 06:55 PM
Nets have more assets to offer than the Magic would.
I don't deny they are trying. Otis Smith has probably called every GM in the league in order to make one last run to make Howard happy.

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 06:56 PM
why on earth would the nets trade Deron williams? Lol there trying lopez 3 first rounders for howard

What are those 3 first rounders? Can't be Nets 2012 one

xxplayerxx23
12-06-2011, 06:58 PM
What are those 3 first rounders? Can't be Nets 2012 one

2 then? I thought i read they were going to offer 3 firsts, Maybe it was 2 then?

DoMeFavors
12-06-2011, 06:58 PM
What are those 3 first rounders? Can't be Nets 2012 one

Houstons 2012 1st rounder (1-14) protected

MagicBucsSox
12-06-2011, 06:59 PM
http://howardthedunk.com/2011/12/06/12-6-magic-rumors-cp3-monta-ellis-deron-williams/

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 07:00 PM
Houstons 2012 1st rounder (1-14) protected

So not Houstons first round pick this coming year then. Kinda loses a bit of value then

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:02 PM
Howard to the Nets for Lopez, picks made more sense.

John Walls Era
12-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Dream come true for me. Ellis is one of my favorite players and if he can make Dwight stay in Orlando, he will finally show people that hes a winner.

nickdymez
12-06-2011, 07:04 PM
D12 is lying when he says he wants the Magic to build a team. Thats his excuse. He wants to play in LA.. Bottom line

bholly
12-06-2011, 07:05 PM
Hope the Magic get Monta just to get him off Philly's radar.

bholly
12-06-2011, 07:07 PM
This is maybe the least likely scenario I've heard. There's 0% chance the Magic get Deron to pair with Dwight.

llemon
12-06-2011, 07:07 PM
What does Orlando have to offer?

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:08 PM
3 team trade idea:
Magic/Warriors/Nets

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cs9hafl

The 2 first to ORL are still in, plus a first to GSW from ORL

RLundi
12-06-2011, 07:09 PM
This was reported a few days ago in another thread. I'm sure the Magic are after Ellis, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc etc but it doesn't mean they will eventually land them.

Furthermore, Monta Ellis is NOT the player that will help Orlando win. He's too inefficient, a volume scorer and streaky shooter that fails to get his teammates involved.

In another thread, everyone was flaming Otis Smith for considering Jamal Crawford- Monta Ellis is only a slightly better version!!!

3mikee_
12-06-2011, 07:10 PM
Won't keep D12 in Orlando.. although I do like the idea of Monta moving to another team where he won't have to fight for shots with Steph Curry and what not.

bholly
12-06-2011, 07:11 PM
This was reported a few days ago in another thread. I'm sure the Magic are after Ellis, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc etc but it doesn't mean they will eventually land them.

Furthermore, Monta Ellis is NOT the player that will help Orlando win. He's too inefficient, a volume scorer and streaky shooter that fails to get his teammates involved.

In another thread, everyone was flaming Otis Smith for considering Jamal Crawford- Monta Ellis is only a slightly better version!!!

Yeah but Dwight has said he loves Monta, which I think is the drawcard.

bholly
12-06-2011, 07:12 PM
3 team trade idea:
Magic/Warriors/Nets

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cs9hafl

The 2 first to ORL are still in, plus a first to GSW from ORL

I can't speak for GSW fans, but I'm pretty sure their response is a huge lol.

RLundi
12-06-2011, 07:13 PM
Yeah but Dwight has said he loves Monta, which I think is the drawcard.

He also said he 'loves' Orlando; I don't see any relevance.

In the end, Dwight wants results. Monta Ellis will not provide anything close to.

ManRam
12-06-2011, 07:14 PM
I hate Monta, but I think he'd help. Not sure if Jameer would go, but I love the idea of a Jameer/Monta backcourt. Their offensive games compliment each other's so well IMO.

The Magic are "after" a lot of players though...doesn't mean they have a shot. Not sure we have enough. Otis has been trying, that's for sure. He's not Jesus though...he can't make miracles happen.

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:14 PM
I can't speak for GSW fans, but I'm pretty sure their response is a huge lol.

Shoot, I like the trade. Pretty even to me.

llemon
12-06-2011, 07:14 PM
3 team trade idea:
Magic/Warriors/Nets

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cs9hafl

The 2 first to ORL are still in, plus a first to GSW from ORL

Hedo and a Magic 1st rdr for Monta. Don't see GS doing this. Can't imagine Magic are crazy about it either.

ManRam
12-06-2011, 07:16 PM
I don't think any of this is "news". If you didn't think the Magic wouldn't go after all these guys, you're crazy. OF COURSE they're gonna make calls to just about every team and just about every player...

I'll get excited when real rumors pop up, not rumors saying they made a call and are interested. Of course they're interested and of course they're trying.

VinceCarter
12-06-2011, 07:16 PM
I can't speak for GSW fans, but I'm pretty sure their response is a huge lol.

If this happened we'd have to think good ole Proky slipped GS millions of dollars to let this happen. Nets would be in paradise with Dwight and not having to take Hedo's contract hahaha.

Kidd>>>K-Mart
12-06-2011, 07:17 PM
This isn't thread worthy. Your just embarrasing the organization more by not being able to answer Dwight's request to be paired with a superstar.

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:18 PM
Hedo and a Magic 1st rdr for Monta. Don't see GS doing this. Can't imagine Magic are crazy about it either.

Curry
Thompson
Hedo
Lee
Beidrins?

That's not a good squad to you? Mark Jackson has said that he wants a bigger two guard, as well.

mavwar53
12-06-2011, 07:21 PM
Curry
Thompson
Hedo
Lee
Beidrins?

That's not a good squad to you? Mark Jackson has said that he wants a bigger two guard, as well.

That is a lineup destine for 25 wins, oh and I mean an 82 game year not this year.

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:21 PM
And let me also mention the Nets and Magic

Williams
Brooks
FA signing(once they amnesty Outlaw)
Humphries?? or another FA signing
Howard

Jameer
Arenas/Ellis
IDK
Bass/Anderson
Lopez

Pretty decent teams to me.

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 07:21 PM
Monta Ellis would be the missing piece I think. Orlando's biggest weakness was another go to guy. Having that in Ellis with Howard cleaning up the misses would be good. Trade for him and get a better PF in free agency and I could see them contending again

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:22 PM
That is a lineup destine for 25 wins, oh and I mean an 82 game year not this year.

You'd be surprised. Besides, where are they going with the roster now?

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 07:22 PM
And let me also mention the Nets and Magic

Williams
Brooks
FA signing(once they amnesty Outlaw)
Humphries?? or another FA signing
Howard

Jameer
Arenas/Ellis
IDK
Bass/Anderson
Lopez

Pretty decent teams to me.

No....Nets make out like bandits

ManRam
12-06-2011, 07:22 PM
Hedo and a Magic 1st rdr for Monta. Don't see GS doing this. Can't imagine Magic are crazy about it either.

Magic fans of course would be for it. Haha. Hedo's awful contract and a really late/worthless 1st rounder for Monta?!? Of course we'd do it.

It would be a rip off for GS, and they'd never even entertain it.

Iodine
12-06-2011, 07:23 PM
Monta ellis :laugh:

With all those blown d assignments, dwight could average 6 blocks a game at least

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 07:24 PM
What about a S&T of Jason Richardson for Monta? Is that even on their radar? Or would you think it might be?

Robbw241
12-06-2011, 07:24 PM
I'd rather let Deron walk then have anything on the Magic roster. Although I do love me some Ryanderson

TheKnight
12-06-2011, 07:24 PM
That would be cool for him and Dwight.

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 07:24 PM
Monta ellis :laugh:

With all those blown d assignments, dwight could average 6 blocks a game at least

Jason Richardson and Vince "I can't stay in front of anyone" Carter say hello

MagicBucsSox
12-06-2011, 07:25 PM
I'd perfer Curry over Ellis, curry is the one the GSW owner said he'd trade curry over Ellis least deadline

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:25 PM
Magic fans of course would be for it. Haha. Hedo's awful contract and a really late/worthless 1st rounder for Monta?!? Of course we'd do it.

It would be a rip off for GS, and they'd never even entertain it.

I'd doubt it.

DoMeFavors
12-06-2011, 07:28 PM
They could go after Monta Ellis once they get back Brook lopez and draft picks. They wont get Deron.

Smash-N-Dash
12-06-2011, 07:30 PM
I don't see how Orlando could possibly land either one

llemon
12-06-2011, 07:31 PM
Curry
Thompson
Hedo
Lee
Beidrins?

That's not a good squad to you? Mark Jackson has said that he wants a bigger two guard, as well.

No, it's not, IMO

ManRam
12-06-2011, 07:32 PM
Anderson, Nelson, Bass, Redick (Orton, Fran's rights) aren't awful trade assets, just not good enough to land a superstar...or Monta Ellis...because he's not a super star.

Wes_Craven
12-06-2011, 07:33 PM
To me it is, gives Curry full control on the offensive end while adding another playmaker in Hedo.

I'm surprised so many of you feel different, I personally like the trade for every team involved. Better than some these fantasy trades I see daily, LOL.

djeller1139
12-06-2011, 07:33 PM
Magic have nothing to trade the Warriors for Monta Ellis. They're better off sending Howard to GSW and letting him play with Monta there :)

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 07:34 PM
Anderson, Nelson, Bass, Redick (Orton, Fran's rights) aren't awful trade assets, just not good enough to land a superstar...or Monta Ellis...because he's not a super star.

I think they could land Ellis. Are the Warriors really interested in Richardson?

Lloyd Christmas
12-06-2011, 07:36 PM
Anderson, Nelson, Bass, Redick (Orton, Fran's rights) aren't awful trade assets, just not good enough to land a superstar...or Monta Ellis...because he's not a super star.

Agreed. I tried to come up with a scenario where the Warriors would send Monta to Orlando and came up with nothing.

Lloyd Christmas
12-06-2011, 07:37 PM
I think they could land Ellis. Are the Warriors really interested in Richardson?

Maybe as a 6th man. Trading Monta to get him and some other bench player doesn't really make sense IMO.

Sportfan
12-06-2011, 07:40 PM
monta ellis is an interesting idea, he'll come cheap for sure. the warriors wanted Ray Allen's expiring for him.
Ryan Anderson might make sense. GSW and their white *** frontcourt ftw

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 07:42 PM
Maybe as a 6th man. Trading Monta to get him and some other bench player doesn't really make sense IMO.

Hmmm...Just kinda weird, your guys' front court clashes with each other. Richardson is a great guard who plays off of the PG making a play to get him open. Would work a lot better together. But then again I haven't watched a lot of GS play so I really don't know

jrm2054
12-06-2011, 07:44 PM
this has to be the dumbest rumor out so far the nets would not do this unless they get howard. williams is the centerpiece of what they are building. They are going saying no we will wait till summer and either get d12 and have him and dwill or he will go somewhere else. The magic are just desperate and look stupid for all those bad contracts they gave out and took on

Slimsim
12-06-2011, 07:49 PM
Anderson, Nelson, Bass, Redick (Orton, Fran's rights) aren't awful trade assets, just not good enough to land a superstar...or Monta Ellis...because he's not a super star.

Why aren't you guys trying to trade duhon

Chronz
12-06-2011, 07:49 PM
Dream come true for me. Ellis is one of my favorite players and if he can make Dwight stay in Orlando, he will finally show people that hes a winner.

And if hes the reason Dwight leaves, will he still be your favorite player?

seikou8
12-06-2011, 08:02 PM
omg too much rumors have the new cba been ratfifed yet no right.

RLundi
12-06-2011, 08:04 PM
Why aren't you guys trying to trade duhon

No GM with an IQ above 40 wants Chris Duhon, that's why.

John Walls Era
12-06-2011, 08:20 PM
Monta is the man. He'll bring the championship to the Magic. Not even being sarcastic like people usually do with Ellis.

seikou8
12-06-2011, 08:23 PM
No GM with an IQ above 40 wants Chris Duhon, that's why.

that is so true knicks wernt even that dumb to sign him that that contract:laugh2:

Crab Dribble!
12-06-2011, 08:52 PM
Referencing an earlier post in this thread, I'm a Warriors fan and my reaction to this news is a huge lol. Not gonna happen.

rapjuicer06
12-06-2011, 09:11 PM
Monta is the man. He'll bring the championship to the Magic. Not even being sarcastic like people usually do with Ellis.

I actually really like him too

last stand
12-06-2011, 09:28 PM
lol again the magic may have the worst roster of pieces outside of dwight howard in the NBA

people would rather pick from the raptors roster than the magic

ldawg
12-06-2011, 10:49 PM
Howard and Paul will be in GSW

Chronz
12-06-2011, 10:50 PM
No GM with an IQ above 40 wants Chris Duhon, that's why.

So then why arent they? JK but GMs are pretty stupid

ldawg
12-06-2011, 10:51 PM
Lebron thought he had it Bad but Magic roster is a joke.

shep33
12-06-2011, 11:01 PM
Count the Nets out, they won't trade Dwill.

thekmp211
12-06-2011, 11:09 PM
Monta would be a great pickup. Not sure Orlando has much to offer.

Greet
12-06-2011, 11:19 PM
Deron Williams won't be traded even if it involved Dwight Howard lol.

Ellis is alright. I don't know if he'd keep DH12 with the Magic tho.

magichatnumber9
12-06-2011, 11:20 PM
This would be huge if they pull this off

DR_1
12-06-2011, 11:43 PM
Dwill=no way

I could see them getting Ellis though. Warriors management doesn't like him and they drafted Klay Thompson. I just don't see what what GS would want from ORL.

futureman
12-06-2011, 11:54 PM
Outside of Howard, the Magic don't have the assets to get one of those guys.The Lakers have much better pieces to offer. This is coming from a huge Laker hater and somebody who wants Howard to stay in Orlando.