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spreadeagle
12-02-2011, 05:58 PM
by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni


Chris Bosh was the only star player at the Miami Heat’s informal workout yesterday, so I’m assuming he felt the pressure to make news without Dwyane Wade and LeBron James in the gym.

Mission accomplished.

After running away from the role last season, and getting predictably criticized for it, a noticeably bulked-up Chris Bosh told the assembled press corps that he’s prepared to mix it up underneath the hoop a lot more this year for the Heat.

From the Sun-Sentinel:

“You know, as much as every time I try to run from it, it just comes and pulls me back in,” he said during the start of informal team workouts Thursday at AmericanAirlines Arena. “So I accept it. If I’m a five, put me down there, have me guarding the biggest guy, I accept the challenge. It is what it is. Every year that I’ve said ‘Oh, no, I’m not doing it,’ I’m in there anyway. So, I accept it.”

“Leaps and bounds better in my opinion,” he said of his revised physique. “But that was one of the things, not only did I want to get better on the court, but I really wanted to get in there in the weight room and really put a lot of work in and improve my body and improve my endurance and be in the best shape possible coming into this season, because it is physical down there and there shouldn’t be a season where I don’t average 10 rebounds. I feel like I let my team down, so that’s not going to happen again. And the only way I can do that is to get stronger, get more physical and be more of a presence on the boards.”

Hilariously, Bosh boasted to the media that he now bench presses between 50-70 pounds more than he used to.

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/chris-bosh-ready-to-play-center-for-the-miami-heat/

D1JM
12-02-2011, 06:04 PM
heat forum?

ChiSoxJuan
12-02-2011, 06:05 PM
Noah is ready :D

5ass
12-02-2011, 06:06 PM
until he has to guard Howard, then he will break down in tears haha
no seriously, i like his attitude and commitment. Hopefully, the extra weight wont effect his offensive game much except if he uses it right.

Evolution23
12-02-2011, 06:07 PM
one dunk from Dwight will make him change his mind.

Avenged
12-02-2011, 06:08 PM
Center? Lol. Interesting.

sp1derm00
12-02-2011, 06:08 PM
Any pictures of Bosh in his new form?

shep33
12-02-2011, 06:13 PM
He can't play center, that's a terrible idea. I think they get Dalembert in Miami anyways though.

Geargo Wallace
12-02-2011, 06:20 PM
I remember when he put muscle on before that last year on the Raptors. He was back down to his regular skinny self by the end of the year.

ChitownSports16
12-02-2011, 06:21 PM
yeah.... I dont see it.

Dolfan305
12-02-2011, 06:28 PM
Noah is ready :D

Bosh took a dump on Noah's head in the ECF.

Rego247
12-02-2011, 06:29 PM
I remember when he put muscle on before that last year on the Raptors. He was back down to his regular skinny self by the end of the year.

Yup. He'll get tossed around like a rag doll if he goes up against Dwight consistently.

Dolfan305
12-02-2011, 06:30 PM
Bosh just isn't a bruiser down low. He needs to stick to his game. He has a great jump shot and is very smooth and can slash into the rim. that's just who he is and he's very good at it. He doesn't have to be Dwight Howard

heyman321
12-02-2011, 06:31 PM
Yeah he REALLY bulked up for the Raptors during the start of 2009-2010. And he was killing it for 2 months, I think he got player of the month and was like 5th in the MVP race. But then slowly that bulk just started dissapearing and when he got to the Heat he looked like a velociraptor again.

JasonJohnHorn
12-02-2011, 06:33 PM
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bosh at center? Dude is scared of the paint. Didnt a 37 year-old Shaq drop 40 something point on Bosh in TO? Forget about, Bosh is barely strong enough to play power forward.

Haslem at center is the best option for Miami.

dgreat5000
12-02-2011, 06:36 PM
Bosh is too little, love the mindset, but even gaining muscle he wouldn't be able to guard Dwight, horford, or even Bynum down low...should stay at pf

shep33
12-02-2011, 06:38 PM
I wonder how he's going to respond to being bigger. I remember when Kobe bulked up, and how he'd just bully guys to the basket. But it does have it's negatives, particularly with quickness, and re-tweaking your shot.

I liked what Bosh gave the Heat last year, I think he gets an unfair rep., he did well in the playoffs.

ChiSoxJuan
12-02-2011, 06:41 PM
A healthy Noah will destroy Bosh at C. Noah will dominate on the OR & tip in points. I'm all in favor of Bosh moving to C.

Tom Stone
12-02-2011, 06:41 PM
Every Raptor Fan is Laughing......We know how Bosh plays D.......he doesn't

Bruno
12-02-2011, 06:42 PM
Maybe if he packs on mass. Hes too thin, intent or not.

justinnum1
12-02-2011, 06:46 PM
Bosh took a dump on Noah's head in the ECF.

:clap: LMFAO over 60% shooting against noah.

29$JerZ
12-02-2011, 06:47 PM
Amare and Horford can play C because of their athleticism. Bosh is just too skinny IMO. Won't last. If its for a few minutes a game they can get away with it but anything longer than that is dumb

Killerjug
12-02-2011, 06:47 PM
don't think he will succeed at the 5

Chronz
12-02-2011, 06:54 PM
He plays better when hes bigger but hes more injury prone

Bruno
12-02-2011, 06:58 PM
He plays better when hes bigger but hes more injury prone

Totally. Maybe a 66 game season would help in regards to him being able to finish the season strong, despite packing on more weight.

SaimuKala
12-02-2011, 07:04 PM
Bosh? Center? :D:D

JasonJohnHorn
12-02-2011, 07:10 PM
I'd like to see how he matches up against Bynum or Howard. It would be a joke.

Chronz
12-02-2011, 07:12 PM
I'd like to see how he matches up against Bynum or Howard. It would be a joke.
Yea but any improvement would be welcomed, Bosh came in leaner this last year and I think his game regressed as a result. The Heat are going to kill people this year if he can regain some of his prior form, particularly on the glass.

VillaMaravilla
12-02-2011, 07:13 PM
cry baby wants to mix it up lmao, I needed a laugh

tcav701
12-02-2011, 07:19 PM
Maybe this is a sign Maimi will use its MLE on a PG?

lavilevi23
12-02-2011, 07:21 PM
Maybe this is a sign Maimi will use its MLE on a PG?

nah best you can get is Aaron Brooks or Stuckey (longshot). They arent that much better than Chalmers. The Heat better get Dalembert or I'd be pissed

Bulls_fan90
12-02-2011, 07:22 PM
:clap: LMFAO over 60% shooting against noah.

1 of 18. LMFAO.

heatforlife
12-02-2011, 07:23 PM
Why are people hating lol u guys dont even know how he would do so just give him a chance cause if hes good down there u guys are just gonna look stupid... Go bosh the nba's tyrannosaurus :d

lavilevi23
12-02-2011, 07:28 PM
Any pictures of Bosh in his new form?

here u go :

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/files/2011/12/Chris-Bosh-blog-1.jpg

D Roses Bulls
12-02-2011, 07:30 PM
I'm sorry but I lol'd at this video of bosh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T2tWQHlvnE

MiamiLoyal926
12-02-2011, 07:34 PM
1 of 18. LMFAO.

1 of 5 games. LMFAO.

Dolfan305
12-02-2011, 07:37 PM
I find it funny how much Bulls fans are on here talking **** about Bosh. You guys make him sound like a bench warming scrub. Not the guy who is a 6 time allstar and averaged 23 points per game on 60% shooting vs. the Bulls in the ECF

ShakeN'Bake
12-02-2011, 07:38 PM
Atleast he is willing to try.

IndyRealist
12-02-2011, 07:48 PM
This is exactly what derailed Jermaine O'Neal's career. After bulking up to play center, his knees were never the same.

IndyRealist
12-02-2011, 07:49 PM
nah best you can get is Aaron Brooks or Stuckey (longshot). They arent that much better than Chalmers. The Heat better get Dalembert or I'd be pissed

Aaron Brooks is in China, isn't he?

I'd take both of those players over Chalmers, though.

Htownballa1622
12-02-2011, 07:51 PM
Smh. Only thing I miss about no season is no unnecessary $#!+ talking by the same fan bases. Hating on bosh for trying to improve and bringing up numbers and videos?smh. Some people enjoy others failing more than their team winning.

Anyway, I hope to see an improvement because I can't stand when players that tall shy from the basket.

Geargo Wallace
12-02-2011, 07:54 PM
I'm sorry but I lol'd at this video of bosh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T2tWQHlvnE

There was actually nothing funny in that video. I have no idea how anyone could think that was funny.

SaimuKala
12-02-2011, 07:56 PM
Heat vs Bulls 2010-2011

Chris Bosh

Regular Season

MIA@CHI 17 Points 5 Rebounds 3 Assists 7/18
MIA@CHI 7 Points 9 Rebounds 1 Assists 1/18
CHI@MIA 23 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 9/14



Playoffs

MIA@CHI 30 Points 9 Rebounds 0 Assists 12/17
MIA@CHI 10 Points 8 Rebounds 2 Assists 4/8
CHI@MIA 34 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 13/18
CHI@MIA 22 Points 6 Rebounds 1 Assists 6/12
MIA@CHI 20 Points 10 Rebounds 1 Assists 7/15

That's not bad.

John Walls Era
12-02-2011, 07:57 PM
Heat vs Bulls 2010-2011

Chris Bosh

Regular Season

MIA@CHI 17 Points 5 Rebounds 3 Assists 7/18
MIA@CHI 7 Points 9 Rebounds 1 Assists 1/18
CHI@MIA 23 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 9/14



Playoffs

MIA@CHI 30 Points 9 Rebounds 0 Assists 12/17
MIA@CHI 10 Points 8 Rebounds 2 Assists 4/8
CHI@MIA 34 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 13/18
CHI@MIA 22 Points 6 Rebounds 1 Assists 6/12
MIA@CHI 20 Points 10 Rebounds 1 Assists 7/15

That's not bad.

Who cares. Bulls fans hate the Heat.

Dolfan305
12-02-2011, 07:59 PM
There was actually nothing funny in that video. I have no idea how anyone could think that was funny.

Because they have the mind of a 12 year old and most of them are fans of scrub teams no one cares about so they try and bring other teams/players down to feel better about their horrible team

HouRealCoach
12-02-2011, 07:59 PM
People are talking down on Bosh's defense at Center but then I see Amare's name? lol

and Im a Knicks fan but I dont understand why Bosh get so much HATE from PSD smh

Hoopsadvocate
12-02-2011, 08:04 PM
Heat vs Bulls 2010-2011

Chris Bosh

Regular Season

MIA@CHI 17 Points 5 Rebounds 3 Assists 7/18
MIA@CHI 7 Points 9 Rebounds 1 Assists 1/18
CHI@MIA 23 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 9/14



Playoffs

MIA@CHI 30 Points 9 Rebounds 0 Assists 12/17
MIA@CHI 10 Points 8 Rebounds 2 Assists 4/8
CHI@MIA 34 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 13/18
CHI@MIA 22 Points 6 Rebounds 1 Assists 6/12
MIA@CHI 20 Points 10 Rebounds 1 Assists 7/15

That's not bad.

Quoted for truth!!

Shut the eff up BUlls fans. Your supposed "better" pf and "tough" center didnt look like they did too good of a job against our supposedly "soft" pf.

If you didnt see the pictures the guy looks like he put on a good 10-15 lbs of muscle. I dont expect him to play center against dwights boguts or Bynums but for 70% of the rest of the league of centers he can certainly hold his own especially with the weight he put on now.

This guy is taking responsibility and trying to better himself is all lets just see what happens. its a postive thing why bash it.

Hawkeye15
12-02-2011, 08:07 PM
Heat fans better hope Riley thinks this is as stupid of an idea as I do.

Get a center. Bosh is way to soft to play center in the NBA, when the games that matter come along.

Jays Claw
12-02-2011, 08:10 PM
Bosh at center would tag the Heat of having the worst interior defense overall. The guy is too small (when compared to the likes of Howard, Horford, Bynum etc.) to play the center position full-time. Slotting him at PF and either signing Nene or Dalembert makes the most sense.

Hoopsadvocate
12-02-2011, 08:10 PM
Heat fans better hope Riley thinks this is as stupid of an idea as I do.

Get a center. Bosh is way to soft to play center in the NBA, when the games that matter come along.

Actually it was Rileys idea...

Read the article http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/12/bulked-up-chris-bosh-ill-play-center-if-needed.html

It was his personal challenge to bosh to bulk up. Its not so hes the perminent center but more for him to be able to bang with the physical bigs and play center at times if needed.

EDIT: i believe he was also bulked up when he played in the olympics where he did play some center.
Like someone else said when he bulked up in toronto early in the season he was like top 3 in early mvp voting and was ripping it up and i believe he avg career highs that year.

dtmagnet
12-02-2011, 08:11 PM
He's going to injure his knee again, his legs can't handle it when he is heavier. He put on a bunch of muscle one year with the Raptors and missed a bunch of games because of the knee.

Hawkeye15
12-02-2011, 08:11 PM
Actually it was Rileys idea...

Read the article http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/12/bulked-up-chris-bosh-ill-play-center-if-needed.html

It was his personal challenge to bosh to bulk up. Its not so hes the perminent center but more for him to be able to bang with the physical bigs and play center at times if needed.

Like someone else said when he bulked up in toronto early in the season he was like top 3 in early mvp voting and was ripping it up and i believe he avg career highs that year.

I would ask him to bulk up as well, and still get a center lol. I just don't have confidence that Bosh can play center for the long term.

RevisIsland
12-02-2011, 08:13 PM
Over/under 4 minutes before he goes back to the perimeter?

Hoopsadvocate
12-02-2011, 08:15 PM
I would ask him to bulk up as well, and still get a center lol. I just don't have confidence that Bosh can play center for the long term.


I still think that is the plan. No doubt riley is going for a center.

Oh and while were on the subject of working out centers...

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/11/for-those-who-need-a-dexter-pittman-fix-video.html

Our rookie is coming along quiet nicely just needs the exp hopefully we get him in there!!

Hoopsadvocate
12-02-2011, 08:18 PM
He's going to injure his knee again, his legs can't handle it when he is heavier. He put on a bunch of muscle one year with the Raptors and missed a bunch of games because of the knee.

Good point i remeber he mentioned that as well last year as a reason why he didnt wanna bulk up he said it slowed him down and wore his knee. But hopefully the trainers keep him out of injury trouble and know what to expect now.

fishfan79
12-02-2011, 08:19 PM
Right attitude, hopefully he doesnt have to be the center but I am glad he wants to dominate in the paint. Lebron needs to bulk up and learn a post up game too.

Hawkeye15
12-02-2011, 08:19 PM
I still think that is the plan. No doubt riley is going for a center.

Oh and while were on the subject of working out centers...

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2011/11/for-those-who-need-a-dexter-pittman-fix-video.html

Our rookie is coming along quiet nicely just needs the exp hopefully we get him in there!!

well, you can't think Pittman will be your center this year. I expect to see Dalembert in a Heat uniform on xmas day.

mdm692
12-02-2011, 08:20 PM
:cry::cry::cry::cry:
pathetic Bulls fans crying after Bosh owned their team in the playoffs
Im not a bulls fan:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepa lm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepa lm::facepalm::facepalm:

But you are a moronic bandwagon heat fan who gets butt hurt if anybody mentions the heat or any of the players the wrong way. Heck you will probably get mad because i didnt spell heat with all capital letters.

mttwlsn16
12-02-2011, 08:20 PM
like a bosh

Evolution23
12-02-2011, 08:22 PM
Bosh did get a lot bigger but he can't play the 5 for the whole game. I can see him for short spurts next to whoever they sign in the offseason (Daliembert, Nene).

mdm692
12-02-2011, 08:23 PM
Quoted for truth!!

Shut the eff up BUlls fans. Your supposed "better" pf and "tough" center didnt look like they did too good of a job against our supposedly "soft" pf.

If you didnt see the pictures the guy looks like he put on a good 10-15 lbs of muscle. I dont expect him to play center against dwights boguts or Bynums but for 70% of the rest of the league of centers he can certainly hold his own especially with the weight he put on now.

This guy is taking responsibility and trying to better himself is all lets just see what happens. its a postive thing why bash it.

He was taking widen open 18ft jumpers while lebron and d-wade got double teamed. It would be an embarrasment if he didnt hit them.

ne3xchamps
12-02-2011, 08:24 PM
:laugh:

Easy there dinosaur boy. :laugh:

h2r09
12-02-2011, 08:27 PM
there are very few impact 5's in the league offensively. he can play the 5 against a lot of teams and split time vs good centers with udonis, joel, and whoever we sign.

THE GIPPER
12-02-2011, 08:41 PM
Why are people slamming bosh for trying? At least he's putting in the effort...

CousinsEvansDUO
12-02-2011, 08:48 PM
I think all of you are missing the point. The point is not for him to play center but for him to be able to play in the paint along with their center. Often Bosh does not get enough rebounds/ doesn't make enough of a presence because he's too light and too soft. This is just so he can be more effective. He will probably still be a PF but if need be he will play as a C.

Cbast09
12-02-2011, 08:52 PM
I think all of you are missing the point. The point is not for him to play center but for him to be able to play in the paint along with their center. Often Bosh does not get enough rebounds/ doesn't make enough of a presence because he's too light and too soft. This is just so he can be more effective. He will probably still be a PF but if need be he will play as a C.

This.

Shortys4711
12-02-2011, 08:56 PM
Why are people slamming bosh for trying? At least he's putting in the effort...

This. Not a fan of the heat, but how can you hate on someone who is working hard to improve there game. Some of you get to caught up on hating and will hate on anything. Yeah Bosh is working on his game and bulking up and training hard, gee what a ******* wit. Seriously come on. Yeah he might not be able to play the 5 but far our atleast hes working and trying to get better. Should have been more hating for him for backing away from it and saying hes not playing the 5, not for now saying he has worked hard and going to.

Cal827
12-02-2011, 09:06 PM
This. Not a fan of the heat, but how can you hate on someone who is working hard to improve there game. Some of you get to caught up on hating and will hate on anything. Yeah Bosh is working on his game and bulking up and training hard, gee what a ******* wit. Seriously come on. Yeah he might not be able to play the 5 but far our atleast hes working and trying to get better. Should have been more hating for him for backing away from it and saying hes not playing the 5, not for now saying he has worked hard and going to.

I fully agree, but that's how this forum is..... Just look at what happened when Lebron made a twitter joke about his receding hairline...

It's quite pathetic. Mainly from fairweather Bull fans that missed out on signing Bosh/Lebron I think lol

evadatam5150
12-02-2011, 09:06 PM
by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni



http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/chris-bosh-ready-to-play-center-for-the-miami-heat/

Problem is you can't change a zebras stripes no matter how hard you try.. He's soft and it's hard to change how you play and naturally react to situations when they're coming at you in split seconds.. You might see a slight change but my guess is he'll revert back to jump shots and 10 foot rebounds when the going gets tough under the rim..

ldawg
12-02-2011, 09:53 PM
I have said this for a very long time Heat will not win until they Lebron drop the ego. Bosh was the odd man but he has to be involve. Wade and Lebron needs the ball to much. Its best for an all-star big to join an all-star small. Wade and Bosh need to be the main options while lebron take a back seat and fill the holes. He can fill in at pg, sf and pf when he learn to post up. Miami played stat ball last year my turn your turn and bosh pick up the garbage. But i think the inside game is to important so the garbage job need to be shift to sf.

Birdmannn
12-02-2011, 10:04 PM
Why should LBJ take the back seat?
Because... hes faster, stronger, younger, less injury prone and has the better stats in.... just about everything??
Ya that makes sense you should be a GM buddy.

THE MTL
12-02-2011, 10:05 PM
Finally Bosh is becoming a man. He should have been down there last season instead of some glorified Rip Hamiliton shooting mid range shots alll day

SteBO
12-02-2011, 10:23 PM
cry baby wants to mix it up lmao, I needed a laugh

Weak bait, very weak bait.....Anyway:

1) Some of you guys just don't know when to quit

2) Do you guys really think Bosh will play the C spot most of the game? Pat isn't a dumb***. All this really does is allow us some flexibility when we go small. This isn't a perminent deal by any means. At least this way, we won't get completely manhandled at center like we were in spots during the regular season. We'll get ourselves a true center anyhow.....

3) When Bosh got the added weight in his final year in TOR, he averaged nearly 12 boards per game. Expect to see him average closer to 10 or 11 this year, now that he knows the way our defense is run.....This only helps us.

ldawg
12-02-2011, 10:38 PM
Why should LBJ take the back seat?
Because... hes faster, stronger, younger, less injury prone and has the better stats in.... just about everything??
Ya that makes sense you should be a GM buddy.Simple for the better of the team define role and stop playing by air your turn my turn. Wade can't play sf and Lebron has the better body the take on the other teams best wing player and fill were needed. It alow Wade to be well Wade the leader of the heat, the go to man, the soul of the team. stats don't win ring the last time i look else Lebron would have 6. you so smart i thought you were a GM. The way you see Lebron don't need wade in his way just give me the ball i will do everything. In that case should have gone to another team that did not have a star at shooting guard. What is done is done they just need to make adjustments and that means sacrifice. they both cant avg 28ppg so why sign all these shooters to have Wade and Lebron stone the back board from out there?

jewno
12-02-2011, 10:38 PM
He was taking widen open 18ft jumpers while lebron and d-wade got double teamed. It would be an embarrasment if he didnt hit them.

he wasnt only shooting jumpers thats why he avg 7 fta in that series

Raph12
12-02-2011, 10:39 PM
I'd love to watch him guard guys like Dwight, Bynum, MGasol, etc (big bangers)...

jewno
12-02-2011, 10:41 PM
i like bosh but he couldnt even bang with carl landry

KnicksorBust
12-02-2011, 10:57 PM
Wow the hatred is so strong. Bosh decides to bulk up and try and be more of a low post player on both ends (something people have ripped him for not doing in the past) and now people still rip him. I think he's realized they need more of an interior prescense and is putting in work. Gotta give him some credit.

KnicksorBust
12-02-2011, 10:58 PM
Sidenote: The number of centers that would abuse him on the low block is under 5 so let's quiet down with that nonsense.

ldawg
12-02-2011, 10:59 PM
I'd love to watch him guard guys like Dwight, Bynum, MGasol, etc (big bangers)...Dwight and Bynum would kill him. especially Bynum he is huge

ldawg
12-02-2011, 11:05 PM
I think pat told him he will play some center on his exit interview.

mdm692
12-02-2011, 11:06 PM
he wasnt only shooting jumpers thats why he avg 7 fta in that series

he would be shooting jumpers most of the time and when he did get to the line it was because he had an open lane to the basket. Not to disrespect the Bosh but I believe he is a product of the system in MIA. Yes he proved he is an all star caliber player in Toronto but not one who is good enough to carry a team deep into the playoffs. And the only argument I am trying to make is that Bosh is not strong enough or big enough to play center. Yes he has and excellent jumper but thats about it. All other plays are a result of Wade/Bron driving, getting double teamed, and dishing to Bosh who so just happens to have either an open jumpshot or and open lane to the basket resulting in a late defensive rotation ending in a foul.

Floridag8tr
12-02-2011, 11:08 PM
Why don't we talk about boozer... I see these bull fans like to criticize on Bosh... But looks like they will always be remembered for being on the short end of the stick when it comes to settling with looser boozer.... Noah is a beast but hate to break it to you Miami owns the Bulls nuff said

mdm692
12-02-2011, 11:10 PM
Sidenote: The number of centers that would abuse him on the low block is under 5 so let's quiet down with that nonsense.

Bogut, Bynum, Tyson Chandler, Perkins, Dwight Howard, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Marcin Gortat, Deandre Jordan, Nene, Noah, Camby

Geargo Wallace
12-02-2011, 11:11 PM
Sidenote: The number of centers that would abuse him on the low block is under 5 so let's quiet down with that nonsense.

If you looked back and read the many Raptors fan's posts in here you'd see that Bosh has done this before. He bulked up once, and lost it all by the end of the season. It seems like a waste of time, especially since he doesn't have a very good post game anyways.

mdm692
12-02-2011, 11:11 PM
I forgot McGee and Cousins

JNA17
12-02-2011, 11:19 PM
lol

Wade>You
12-02-2011, 11:33 PM
On the flip side, Bosh in the triple threat position against a Center would be a huge mismatch.

Bosh playing Center should be purely for the offensive option he would provide and not for defensive purposes. If he wants to live in the paint and post up more next season, he can easily do that at PF; no need to put him at C.


Wow the hatred is so strong. Bosh decides to bulk up and try and be more of a low post player on both ends (something people have ripped him for not doing in the past) and now people still rip him. I think he's realized they need more of an interior prescense and is putting in work. Gotta give him some credit.Good post. :clap:

KnicksR4Real
12-02-2011, 11:33 PM
Watch what happens.

Raph12
12-02-2011, 11:38 PM
Dwight and Bynum would kill him. especially Bynum he is huge

I agree, but Bosh is the flop-master, so we'll see lol...

dhopisthename
12-02-2011, 11:42 PM
Bogut, Bynum, Tyson Chandler, Perkins, Dwight Howard, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Marcin Gortat, Deandre Jordan, Nene, Noah, Camby

lol you can't be serious most of those guys are no threats to score

Geargo Wallace
12-02-2011, 11:43 PM
On the flip side, Bosh in the triple threat position against a Center would be a huge mismatch.

Bosh playing Center should be purely for the offensive option he would provide and not for defensive purposes. If he wants to live in the paint and post up more next season, he can easily do that at PF; no need to put him at C.

Good post. :clap:

From watching many seasons of Bosh's in Toronto, his indecisiveness on offense is painful at times. I wouldn't worry about him in the triple threat position too much.

mdm692
12-02-2011, 11:50 PM
lol you can't be serious most of those guys are no threats to score

Theyre bigger, stronger, heavier. All they have to do is back him up and they will have a lay up.

and actually only tyson, perkins, noah and jordan are the only ones who would be the less threat. everybody else knows their way around the rim.

Wade>You
12-03-2011, 12:03 AM
From watching many seasons of Bosh's in Toronto, his indecisiveness on offense is painful at times. I wouldn't worry about him in the triple threat position too much.I agree that he hesitates at times, but he's a great triple-threat player when he's got it going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7psmgq67aA&feature=related#t=18s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Vw94sDvDU&feature=related#t=2m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Vw94sDvDU&feature=related#t=2m17s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Vw94sDvDU&feature=related#t=2m37s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FhInRZSGUc#t=47s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FhInRZSGUc#t=1m36s

DR_1
12-03-2011, 12:03 AM
one dunk from Dwight will make him change his mind.

:laugh2:

Geargo Wallace
12-03-2011, 12:04 AM
I agree that he hesitates at times, but he's a great triple-threat player when he's got it going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7psmgq67aA&feature=related#t=18s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Vw94sDvDU&feature=related#t=2m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Vw94sDvDU&feature=related#t=2m17s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Vw94sDvDU&feature=related#t=2m37s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FhInRZSGUc#t=47s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FhInRZSGUc#t=1m36s

no doubt. anyone is.

DR_1
12-03-2011, 12:05 AM
lol you can't be serious most of those guys are no threats to score

I'd say a lot are.

dhopisthename
12-03-2011, 12:05 AM
Theyre bigger, stronger, heavier. All they have to do is back him up and they will have a lay up.

and actually only tyson, perkins, noah and jordan are the only ones who would be the less threat. everybody else knows their way around the rim.

Bogut-a few years ago yes but not now
Bynum-sure
Tyson Chandler-no
Perkins-no
Dwight Howard- yeah
Marc Gasol-maybe but he isn't a real low post threat
Brook Lopez-sure
Marcin Gortat-no
Deandre Jordan-no
Nene-sure but it isn't like he is a such a dominat threat that you need to worry about him
Noah-no
Camby-lol
so I count maybe 5? and don't forget howard and brook can be doubled with little consequence

mdm692
12-03-2011, 12:09 AM
You are obviously underrating alot of these centers lol. I also added mcgee and cousins. But i respect your opinion. There really isnt a stat and it is pure speculation so there is not much of a legit argument to be made by either you or me.

Wade>You
12-03-2011, 12:15 AM
no doubt. anyone is.Touche. I still don't agree with "not worrying about Bosh in the triple-threat," though. As a Raptors fan, I can see why you would say that.

dhopisthename
12-03-2011, 12:16 AM
You are obviously underrating alot of these centers lol. I also added mcgee and cousins. But i respect your opinion. There really isnt a stat and it is pure speculation so there is not much of a legit argument to be made by either you or me.

I agree with cousins mcgee not so much and you forgot al jefferson. however you are right in that some of these guys might be able to score(some like camby is a joke), however people like noah I would welcome them to try since while they might be able to put up points they would not do it very efficiently especially since they heat play a very good team defensive concept

mdm692
12-03-2011, 12:21 AM
Touche. I still don't agree with "not worrying about Bosh in the triple-threat," though. As a Raptors fan, I can see why you would say that.

Like i said hes proven his worth in toronto but everything accomplished last season is more of a product of lebron and wade being his teammates. Almost all of the scoring plays left him wide open or came from late defensive rotations.

mdm692
12-03-2011, 12:24 AM
I agree with cousins mcgee not so much and you forgot al jefferson. however you are right in that some of these guys might be able to score(some like camby is a joke), however people like noah I would welcome them to try since while they might be able to put up points they would not do it very efficiently especially since they heat play a very good team defensive concept

Key concept. the poster said bosh wanted to play center. 1v1 he would not be succeasful vs most of these guys. Team wise he might be able to hit a couple jumpers but I am still not convinced he would beast vs other C in the league. Although as a team overall his stats get inflated due to the fact that Bron and Wade play with him which affects every single aspect of the opposing teams gameplan.

OA SLAY
12-03-2011, 12:30 AM
Haha ...Oh Bosh! If hes lucky he might have enough strentgh to play the 4 now.

John Walls Era
12-03-2011, 12:35 AM
Haha ...Oh Bosh! If hes lucky he might have enough strentgh to play the 4 now.

Apparently enough to man handle the Knicks last year?

mdm692
12-03-2011, 12:38 AM
Apparently enough to man handle the Knicks last year?

Apparently Stat and Melo won the matchup vs the Big 3

OA SLAY
12-03-2011, 12:45 AM
Apparently... This will turn into a Knicks hate fourm now...wow

John Walls Era
12-03-2011, 12:45 AM
Apparently Stat and Melo won the matchup vs the Big 3

I'm not gonna defend the Heat, but that was 1 game. But if a win makes them happy, then thats good enough for me.

OA SLAY
12-03-2011, 12:46 AM
hahah:clap::clap::clap: Rediculous:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Heater4life
12-03-2011, 12:47 AM
I think some of you guys are reading into this way too much. I think Bosh just want to be more physical of a player. And if he has to play some five (which he was openly reluctant to do so last year when he signed)hes going to play the position in sort periods of time to help his team win.

Essentially, all i read from the article is that Bosh wanted to be in the best physical shape hes ever been in. He wants to do everything possible to help his team win.

"Dwight Howard will kill him down low!" Idiots, hes Dwight f'in Howard, who the flying uck doesnt he kill down low? lol Haters.

OA SLAY
12-03-2011, 12:50 AM
I think some of you guys are reading into this way too much. I think Bosh just want to be more physical of a player. And if he has to play some five (which he was openly reluctant to do so last year when he signed)hes going to play the position in sort periods of time to help his team win.

Essentially, all i read from the article is that Bosh wanted to be in the best physical shape hes ever been in. He wants to do everything possible to help his team win.

"Dwight Howard will kill him down low!" Idiots, hes Dwight f'in Howard, who the flying uck doesnt he kill down low? lol Haters.

The Atlanta Hawks.

Wade>You
12-03-2011, 12:50 AM
Like i said hes proven his worth in toronto but everything accomplished last season is more of a product of lebron and wade being his teammates. Almost all of the scoring plays left him wide open or came from late defensive rotations.I don't disagree. I'll just say this:

Bosh drew more attention on the Raps and was more productive.

Maybe the baskets are coming easier than before, but not at the same rate and with the same efficiency.

Even if Bosh has benefited, he wouldn't be the first player in history to benefit from playing with great players.

There's also great players today (and historically) that have never played a season where they didn't think their team could win a championship. Don't they benefit from having players that the other team has to worry about?

With that said, I'd easily take Raptor Bosh over Heat Bosh.

TylerSL
12-03-2011, 12:55 AM
The Heat will likely get somebody like Dalembert anyway so I doubt they will need Bosh to play C all the time. Some of you guys are even stupider than I remember. Seriously, "Howard would own him." First of all, who doesnt he own, and secondly, Miami would only use him at C when they play small, as they did often times last season. Last year when the went small, Haslem would play C, and he just isnt big enough. Now, Bosh can fill the void for maybe 15 min/game when they go small.

Dolfan305
12-03-2011, 01:16 AM
The Atlanta Hawks.

Dwight Howard averaged 27 points per game on 63% shooting and 16 rebounds vs. the Hawks. Are you joking?

Dolfan305
12-03-2011, 01:19 AM
Bogut, Bynum, Tyson Chandler, Perkins, Dwight Howard, Marc Gasol, Brook Lopez, Marcin Gortat, Deandre Jordan, Nene, Noah, Camby

It's funny that Bosh is better than every one of those players besides Dwight. Such pathetic hate. Most of you guys talking **** about Bosh would take him on your team in a second and he'd be your 1st-2nd best player

Sadds The Gr8
12-03-2011, 01:27 AM
Rupaul would get chokeslammed by half the centers in the league

TylerSL
12-03-2011, 01:27 AM
I'm not gonna defend the Heat, but that was 1 game. But if a win makes them happy, then thats good enough for me.

nice sig, I lol'd

TylerSL
12-03-2011, 01:29 AM
Rupaul would get chokeslammed by half the centers in the league

I bet you watch wrestling....

Ebbs
12-03-2011, 02:31 AM
This is the right attitude and I honestly hope Bosh shuts PSD up.

mdm692
12-03-2011, 02:36 AM
It's funny that Bosh is better than every one of those players besides Dwight. Such pathetic hate. Most of you guys talking **** about Bosh would take him on your team in a second and he'd be your 1st-2nd best player

do you know the difference between a C and a Pf. If you do you must be a homer or mentally challenged.

gotoHcarolina52
12-03-2011, 02:43 AM
Chris Bosh >>>>>>>8--------->>>>>> Joel Anthony

Heater4life
12-03-2011, 02:59 AM
“Leaps and bounds better in my opinion,” he said of his revised physique. “But that was one of the things, not only did I want to get better on the court, but I really wanted to get in there in the weight room and really put a lot of work in and improve my body and improve my endurance and be in the best shape possible coming into this season, because it is physical down there and there shouldn’t be a season where I don’t average 10 rebounds.

I feel like I let my team down, so that’s not going to happen again. And the only way I can do that is to get stronger, get more physical and be more of a presence on the boards.”

That is a player who is working his hardest to improve his flaws. He is trying to become the best he possibly can by putting in work in the weight room and on the court. As far as him playing the 5, he says hes willing to do what ever must be done to win. (we all know thats a situational role for Bosh)

Have to admire good work ethic.

Rego247
12-03-2011, 03:03 AM
Rupaul would get chokeslammed by half the centers in the league

Lol this.

faridk89
12-03-2011, 03:22 AM
until he has to guard Howard, then he will break down in tears haha
no seriously, i like his attitude and commitment. Hopefully, the extra weight wont effect his offensive game much except if he uses it right.

Heard the same **** when he was in T.O... he's not a winner, enough said

nyknicksfan16
12-03-2011, 03:29 AM
Chris Bosh cant play center because he's a technique driven power forward. If he played center, dwight would ruin his day. Bosh should stick to what he can do well.

mdm692
12-03-2011, 03:31 AM
Chris Bosh cant play center because he's a technique driven power forward. If he played center, dwight would ruin his day. Bosh should stick to what he can do well.

this

naps
12-03-2011, 03:53 AM
LOL. Haters are hating without even reading the reality. Bosh is not gonna be a full-time center. He will play 10-15 mins a game if needed (like last year). If Miami added a center (Read Dalembert) he won't have to be there anyways. Last year was different because Miami was really thin at 5. Calm the **** down and take the hater glasses off for a moment for Christ's sake.



A healthy Noah will destroy Bosh at C. Noah will dominate on the OR & tip in points. I'm all in favor of Bosh moving to C.

Noah sucked in the ECF against Joel freaking Anthony. Go figure.





Smh. Only thing I miss about no season is no unnecessary $#!+ talking by the same fan bases. Hating on bosh for trying to improve and bringing up numbers and videos?smh. Some people enjoy others failing more than their team winning.

Anyway, I hope to see an improvement because I can't stand when players that tall shy from the basket.

Bulls fans (most of them) are always pathetic. Nothing to surprise here dude. They worry more about other teams than their own.



Heat vs Bulls 2010-2011

Chris Bosh

Regular Season

MIA@CHI 17 Points 5 Rebounds 3 Assists 7/18
MIA@CHI 7 Points 9 Rebounds 1 Assists 1/18
CHI@MIA 23 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 9/14



Playoffs

MIA@CHI 30 Points 9 Rebounds 0 Assists 12/17
MIA@CHI 10 Points 8 Rebounds 2 Assists 4/8
CHI@MIA 34 Points 5 Rebounds 2 Assists 13/18
CHI@MIA 22 Points 6 Rebounds 1 Assists 6/12
MIA@CHI 20 Points 10 Rebounds 1 Assists 7/15

That's not bad.

Can't talk about the that fanbase man. They will keep hating for no reason.

naps
12-03-2011, 03:56 AM
Why are people slamming bosh for trying? At least he's putting in the effort...


This^^. Not a fan of the heat, but how can you hate on someone who is working hard to improve there game. Some of you get to caught up on hating and will hate on anything. Yeah Bosh is working on his game and bulking up and training hard, gee what a ******* wit. Seriously come on. Yeah he might not be able to play the 5 but far our atleast hes working and trying to get better. Should have been more hating for him for backing away from it and saying hes not playing the 5, not for now saying he has worked hard and going to.

Because hating is fun.

Seriously though, hating on the guy for trying to help his team and trying to improve different areas of his game? SMDH...

naps
12-03-2011, 04:02 AM
he would be shooting jumpers most of the time and when he did get to the line it was because he had an open lane to the basket. Not to disrespect the Bosh but I believe he is a product of the system in MIA. Yes he proved he is an all star caliber player in Toronto but not one who is good enough to carry a team deep into the playoffs. And the only argument I am trying to make is that Bosh is not strong enough or big enough to play center. Yes he has and excellent jumper but thats about it. All other plays are a result of Wade/Bron driving, getting double teamed, and dishing to Bosh who so just happens to have either an open jumpshot or and open lane to the basket resulting in a late defensive rotation ending in a foul.

Tell me how the **** he averaged 24 ppg as the first option then if he only depends on his jump shot and is a product of Wade/LeBron. From what I have seen you are a certified troll when it comes down to Heat. You are making fool of yourself. Stop embarrassing yourself.


Although as a team overall his stats get inflated due to the fact that Bron and Wade play with him which affects every single aspect of the opposing teams gameplan.

That's ********. His stats got deflated last year. Your judgement is blurry now because you drank haterade.

Mane
12-03-2011, 04:22 AM
make sure you guys turn this into a bulls vs. heat argument

ah.. nevermind you already did.

Arch Stanton
12-03-2011, 05:27 AM
Bosh is talented, but I don't think he should play center. And that's not for him to decide. I'm sure the Heat are working out a deal to acquire someone for that position. But if they don't I'm sure they'll still wreak havoc.

Sactown
12-03-2011, 05:31 AM
I don't think Bosh plans on playing C, but I think he's saying if he has to he's willing to do what it takes to win.. How can you hate on someone who's trying to do whatever it takes to win.. is working as hard as he can and all people can say is "Dwight will dunk it on him".. It's so sad to see the random hate on here.. I hope he has a great season and pulls 10 boards a game, but I think he's going to always play best as a perimeter PF

Pacman
12-03-2011, 05:33 AM
We'll get to see if the Heat is still on during and after display of their renewed talents in the game.

pacman16
12-03-2011, 06:03 AM
talk about hatin on someone for no reason,
bosh is worked hard to gain some size and said he's ready for the challenge of playing the 5 if needed.... everyone knows its going to be a minimal thing when they need. how can anyone hate on someone for working hard to improve their game.
crazy world

ldawg
12-03-2011, 08:32 AM
On the flip side, Bosh in the triple threat position against a Center would be a huge mismatch.

Bosh playing Center should be purely for the offensive option he would provide and not for defensive purposes. If he wants to live in the paint and post up more next season, he can easily do that at PF; no need to put him at C.

Good post. :clap:Bosh can get it done inside if he can pry the ball out Lebron hands. Remember Lebron and Wade has to be along their career averages so that may not fly. They might come back with that my turn your turn.

xnick5757
12-03-2011, 09:02 AM
good for him, but I don't think he will be a good center.

remember this play last year? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFltckbcnfM&feature=player_embedded

knicks_champ
12-03-2011, 09:04 AM
I like his new attitude... he needs to be more tough and have more confidence.

GoferKing_
12-03-2011, 09:41 AM
Boogie will eat him, as well as Buynum, Dwight.xD

Dolfan305
12-03-2011, 10:11 AM
Bosh can get it done inside if he can pry the ball out Lebron hands. Remember Lebron and Wade has to be along their career averages so that may not fly. They might come back with that my turn your turn.

I agree that bosh could use a few more touches but Lebron and Wade are clearly superior offensive payers and need the ball more than Bosh

Dolfan305
12-03-2011, 10:16 AM
do you know the difference between a C and a Pf. If you do you must be a homer or mentally challenged.

He doesn't have to be a center to go down low more. The Heat will end up getting Dalembert and he will be the one covering the C. Bosh is just a smooth finesse player and there's nothing wrong with that. Bosh would be the best player on your team

DenButsu
12-03-2011, 10:20 AM
I had to check the source to make sure it wasn't The Onion.

Hmf, who knows? But I'll believe it when I see it.

PhillyFaninLA
12-03-2011, 10:33 AM
Yup. He'll get tossed around like a rag doll if he goes up against Dwight consistently.

Unlike every other center in the game only Bosh is what you are implying.

People need to move no the blind hatred or bitterness of the Heat players.

IndiansFan337
12-03-2011, 11:31 AM
He can't play center, that's a terrible idea. I think they get Dalembert in Miami anyways though.

Even if they do, Dalembert will only play a max of 30 mpg, so that leaves 18 mpg where Bosh should be playing C.

Bosh played C for about 50-60 games in Toronto the year before they draft Bargnani.

TO Rapz
12-03-2011, 11:35 AM
He can play the C, but he wont be succesful at all. Bosh may put on weight and say all this **** and blah blah blah, but he just doesnt have the mentality, or the attitude to play inside the paint. He will always be a 4, who is more of a skilled player then a bruiser down low.