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Chronz
12-02-2011, 04:21 AM
Title

Jason Kidd is one that comes to mind immediately but he was never really a "GREAT" shooter and it took him until his final days to become a great set 3pt shooter.

Im wondering how often do players forge themselves into great shooters during their primes. Can anyone think of anybody?

thenetslegend
12-02-2011, 04:23 AM
gilbert!

Chronz
12-02-2011, 04:24 AM
Would you call Arenas a great shooter? He didnt have a mid-range game in College did he.

Meatmypet
12-02-2011, 04:32 AM
Dare I say Michael Jordan?

Meatmypet
12-02-2011, 04:33 AM
Oh, and David Lee.

thenetslegend
12-02-2011, 04:34 AM
Would you call Arenas a great shooter? He didnt have a mid-range game in College did he.

i was referring to his gun incident with crittenton,

to answer your question seriously though i would say amare, got a very consistent mid range jumper during his career

Sadds The Gr8
12-02-2011, 04:36 AM
Dorell Wright seems to fit this category if u look at his career 3 point shooting stats

John Walls Era
12-02-2011, 04:39 AM
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/ohio-state/michael-redd

Never known as a great scorer or shooter. He was actually known for D coming out of college. Keep in mind that 30% shooting from the college 3pt line isn't good.

PleaseBeNice
12-02-2011, 04:43 AM
^^oh god, michael redd sighting... :puke:

John Walls Era
12-02-2011, 04:54 AM
^^oh god, a recruit sighting... :puke:

Belmonts
12-02-2011, 04:59 AM
^lol

Kashmir13579
12-02-2011, 05:02 AM
Channing Frye always had a solid mid range game, but his shot has gotten sooo much better.

PleaseBeNice
12-02-2011, 05:11 AM
^^oh god, a recruit sighting... :puke:

you wanna take this outside?

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-02-2011, 06:00 AM
Derek Fisher was a pretty bad shooter at the start of his career:shrug:

ChiTownPacerFan
12-02-2011, 06:20 AM
Danny Granger?

waveycrockett
12-02-2011, 06:50 AM
Richard Hamilton, Richard Jefferson, Tracy McGrady, Rashard Lewis

BIG-D
12-02-2011, 07:13 AM
Awww some got to mine first m redd yep he was known for defense in college

mdm692
12-02-2011, 07:22 AM
Anybody in the run and gun suns era.

mal22
12-02-2011, 07:26 AM
Mj

PacersForLife
12-02-2011, 11:36 AM
Danny Granger?

Never saw DG in college, was he not a shooter? Channing Frye and Aaron Afflalo stand out the most to me. I wouldn't say MJ was ever a great shooter, he always seemed average from behind the 3pt line.

Oefarmy2005
12-02-2011, 11:42 AM
Ricky Rubio in the future - hopefully

kobebabe
12-02-2011, 11:58 AM
Ariza got to be one of them

NYflightboy
12-02-2011, 11:59 AM
Jason Kidd? Rafer Alston? Well, Rafer wasn't a great shooter but he went from And 1 mixtapes to a decent 3 pt shooter.

Sadds The Gr8
12-02-2011, 11:59 AM
Ariza got to me one of them
Ariza is still a ****in horrible shooter

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-02-2011, 12:02 PM
Ariza is still a ****in horrible shooter

+1 lol

Jint.
12-02-2011, 12:06 PM
Amare

NYflightboy
12-02-2011, 12:06 PM
Ariza got to me one of them

OH yes. I remember that. When he first came into the league it was real ugly. Like Tyrone Hill ugly. But I guess Kobe nipped that **** in the butt real quick!

D-Leethal
12-02-2011, 12:08 PM
go through the Mike D'Antoni carousel.....

Barbosa turned into a 45% 3pt shooter
Shawn Marion came in the league shooting 18% from 3 pt
Amare went from mechanically horrible brick machine to silky smooth mid range with 3 point range
Lee did the same
Wilson Chandler
Bill Walker

The list goes on

NYflightboy
12-02-2011, 12:08 PM
Ariza is still a ****in horrible shooter

But in comparison to how he started? At least he can hit an open jumper now.

D-Leethal
12-02-2011, 12:09 PM
QRich was a Bonzi Wells prototype post up G/F turned league leading 3 point marksmen

b_russ
12-02-2011, 12:11 PM
OH yes. I remember that. When he first came into the league it was real ugly. Like Tyrone Hill ugly. But I guess Kobe nipped that **** in the butt real quick!

Yes lets attribute Ariza's improved shooting to Kobe.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-02-2011, 12:15 PM
But in comparison to how he started? At least he can hit an open jumper now.

read the thread title again

mightybosstone
12-02-2011, 12:18 PM
I'm surprised no Bulls fans have said this, but Rose's shooting significantly improved last season. And Kyle Lowry is another guy who really stepped up his 3-point shooting last year.

NYflightboy
12-02-2011, 12:23 PM
Yes lets attribute Ariza's improved shooting to Kobe.

lol you don't think kobe would chew his *** out for missing an open j in practice? or at least playing with Kobe would force Trevor to improve his game? No, not a possibilty? And plus Kobe was basically coaching the team the last few years.

nycericanguy
12-02-2011, 12:26 PM
David Lee & Amare. Both couldn't shoot, now they are 2 of the best shooting big men in the game. Almost automatic from 18 feet.

BKLYNpigeon
12-02-2011, 12:28 PM
Rajon Rondo :facepalm:

b_russ
12-02-2011, 12:32 PM
lol you don't think kobe would chew his *** out for missing an open j in practice? or at least playing with Kobe would force Trevor to improve his game? No, not a possibilty? And plus Kobe was basically coaching the team the last few years.

Yeah their shooting coaches didn't do jack ****

NYflightboy
12-02-2011, 12:35 PM
Yeah their shooting coaches didn't do jack ****

Yo dude lighten up. You're taking things way too seriously.

Sadds The Gr8
12-02-2011, 12:40 PM
But in comparison to how he started? At least he can hit an open jumper now.

he still shoots terrible percentages, and the title asks "what non-shooters have come into the league and become great shooters", not "what non-shooters have come into the league and still suck at shooting but at least can hit an open jumper now"

lavilevi23
12-02-2011, 12:49 PM
Wade

cooters22
12-02-2011, 01:04 PM
Manute Bol. Yes I know some might think this is the stupidest post ever, but I got to watch him pre-game shoot a few times over the years and couldn't believe how incredible of a 3 point shooter he was at shoot arounds. He didn't make any in his first three seasons and by year four he made 20 of them and by year 8 he actually did shoot 10 of 32 for the season. He was oft injure, but the man made the biggest strides in general in his game.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-02-2011, 01:07 PM
Wade

wade is still a mediocre shooter

RevisIsland
12-02-2011, 01:26 PM
Kidd is obviously the the best example, it's a fairly rare occurrence though.

b1e9a8r5s
12-02-2011, 01:30 PM
Jared Dudley

Chronz
12-02-2011, 01:38 PM
Redd is the winning answer, Frye was a good call. Brian Cook had a similar development.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
12-02-2011, 01:43 PM
Redd is the winning answer, Frye was a good call. Brian Cook had a similar development.

cook has been terrible his whole craeer

Chronz
12-02-2011, 01:43 PM
go through the Mike D'Antoni carousel.....

Barbosa turned into a 45% 3pt shooter
Shawn Marion came in the league shooting 18% from 3 pt
Amare went from mechanically horrible brick machine to silky smooth mid range with 3 point range
Lee did the same
Wilson Chandler
Bill Walker

The list goes on
Interesting, I always wondered what the hell happened to Marions jumper. I wonder how many guys come into the league decent shooters and lose it.


Danny Granger?
Very nice

Lo Porto
12-02-2011, 01:45 PM
Karl Malone is one of the best examples of increased shooting percentages over time. His % from the field and FT increased dramatically from his early years on. His range also extended over time. It was a testament to his work ethic.

FT% as a rookie - 48% - 5 years later 77%

Da Knicks
12-02-2011, 01:50 PM
Amare Stoudemire

IndyRealist
12-02-2011, 02:16 PM
Larry Bird was a horrible 3pt shooter 4 of his first 5 years in the league, averaging around 25% on 70 attempts per season. His 6th year on, he shot almost 40% from 3 with about 200 attempts per season. His free throw shooting went from mid 80's to well over 90%.

kobebabe
12-02-2011, 02:28 PM
ariza is still a ****in horrible shooter

lol!!!! you might need to re-read the title of the thread before you make comments

raidersrock99
12-02-2011, 02:31 PM
rolondo mcclain o sorry wrong thread =)

kobebabe
12-02-2011, 02:31 PM
But in comparison to how he started? At least he can hit an open jumper now.

+1. That is what the question asked. we ain't talking about super greatness but improvement. This kid had no jumper at all coming in. He actually was traded to Orlando where they didnt even use him much coz of his lack of shooting. He emerged playing alongside kobe!

NYKnicks4511
12-02-2011, 02:34 PM
Wilson Chandler REALLY improved his midrange jumper, as did David Lee, hopefully Landry ****ing Fields can do it too.

jason6692
12-02-2011, 02:45 PM
what about tony parker ? he improved over the yrs

smith&wesson
12-02-2011, 02:52 PM
patrick ewing

Ollie Tabooger
12-02-2011, 03:28 PM
Jared Dudley comes to mind.

Ollie Tabooger
12-02-2011, 03:30 PM
+1. That is what the question asked. we ain't talking about super greatness but improvement. This kid had no jumper at all coming in. He actually was traded to Orlando where they didnt even use him much coz of his lack of shooting. He emerged playing alongside kobe!

Thread question: "What non-shooters have come into the league and become great shooters?"

Ariza was an extremely terrible shooter before the nba, and he's improved to become terrible shooter in the nba. You did not answer the question.

dodgersuck
12-02-2011, 03:31 PM
David Lee

zo#33
12-02-2011, 03:34 PM
Jared Dudley comes to mind.

Thats a good one. I wonder if Nash had anything to do with it

nickdymez
12-02-2011, 03:54 PM
Jason Kidd jumps out at me

spurs4#5
12-02-2011, 04:04 PM
tony parker

Dolfan305
12-02-2011, 05:04 PM
Lebron. I wouldn't call him a "great shooter" but he actually has the 2nd best fg% from midrange in the NBA, second only to Dirk. Lebron had no jump shot his rookie year

Hawkeye15
12-02-2011, 05:13 PM
tony parker

great choice.

MrfadeawayJB
12-02-2011, 05:16 PM
Yeah i got to go Kidd on this one...now his 3 is money!!!

lavilevi23
12-02-2011, 05:20 PM
wade is still a mediocre shooter

oh so shooting 50% is mediocre? GTFO with that *****

Durant is hype
12-02-2011, 05:23 PM
oh so shooting 50% is mediocre? GTFO with that *****

No,he means weak shooter from the perimeter. This thread is meant for "shooters" not scorers.

dtmagnet
12-02-2011, 05:38 PM
Calderon couldn't shoot at all in his early years, then proceeded to set the free throw % record, also became a pretty good 3 point shooter.

Gram
12-02-2011, 11:18 PM
you wanna take this outside?

Hey PleaseBeNice, please be nice. :)

Gram
12-02-2011, 11:18 PM
oh so shooting 50% is mediocre? GTFO with that *****

Yo you mad bro?

mdm692
12-02-2011, 11:28 PM
Like i said anybody in the suns system since 2004. Alot of these acquisition work on their 3pt shot when they become a sun for the simple reason that that its what its asked of them. Frye, Dudley, Q, Bell, Diaw, Stoudemire, Hill, Marion, Gortat all have excelled in their jump shooting when in the Suns system.

albertc86
12-02-2011, 11:34 PM
Great shooter or good shooter? I wouldn't call Kidd a great shooter. I'd say Tony Parker came into the league with a poor jump shot but has developed a respectful one.