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Febuary21st2011
11-26-2011, 09:52 PM
http://www.iamagm.com/news/2011/11/26/heat.told.mike.miller.through.back.channels.he.was .going.be.waived.using.amnesty

http://www.iamagm.com/news/2011/11/26/obviously.heat.planning.use.mid.level.exception.ce nter


According to league sources, the Heat had planned to waive Miller and had let him know through back channels so he could prepare. This information was not all that secret -- teams in need of shooters were already doing background research on Miller and considering bringing him in. Miller had a number of suitors when he was a free agent a year ago, including the Chicago Bulls. He may not want to take his house off the market just yet, though. With the expected luxury-tax changes, the Heat still may end up waiving Miller with the amnesty clause before next season to allow them to free up enough space to use the mid-level exception again. But considering they will be paying Miller either way, they would much prefer to have him on the roster and see if offseason surgeries to his thumb and shoulder will allow him to return to his form from two years ago, when he was one of the best shooters in the league.


As of just a few days ago, the way the proposals were set up, it appeared certain the Heat would have to use their amnesty clause on Miller immediately just so they could add to their roster. The Heat currently have $65 million in salaries for this season before signing Cole. At the moment, they also have no point guard under contract, applying pressure to re-sign Chalmers as well because the free agent point guard market is thin.

But they couldn't afford to do both and stay under the luxury tax line, which is expected to be right about where it was last season at $70.3 million. The owners wanted to make any team that was over that line unable to use the full mid-level exception, including if using that money pushed a team into the tax zone. The Heat are planning on using the mid-level on a center, with their top target believed to be free agent Sam Dalembert.

DoMeFavors
11-26-2011, 10:00 PM
Samuel D will be a member of the Heat I believe, as for Miller maybe he will go to Lakers where he intended to go untill the big 3 in miami formed.

iggypop123
11-26-2011, 10:03 PM
dalembert is their dream target. i think since they arent a tax team they can go all out with the mle . would be hard for him to pass it up. i can see arison eating millers contract to make sure they can get a center. james jones can do alot of what miller does just for the fraction of the price. i think mohamed is likely to decide between new york and miami.

lavilevi23
11-26-2011, 10:05 PM
cant the Heat keep Miller while being able to use that 5m$ MLE on someone like Dalembert?

Febuary21st2011
11-26-2011, 10:07 PM
cant the Heat keep Miller while being able to use that 5m$ MLE on someone like Dalembert?
preparing roster space for rashard lewis and chris paul?

John Walls Era
11-26-2011, 10:55 PM
Who knows what kind of shape all these players are in.

daleja424
11-26-2011, 10:56 PM
We'll see what happens. All of this "news" is just speculation about obvious things...

Lets talk in 10 days when FA is actually getting close to starting and teams have actually spoken to players.

justinnum1
11-26-2011, 10:56 PM
heat can keep miller and still make all there moves

Febuary21st2011
11-26-2011, 10:57 PM
We'll see what happens. All of this "news" is just speculation about obvious things...

Lets talk in 10 days when *Chris paul is a New York Knick*.

*fixed*

daleja424
11-26-2011, 10:58 PM
hahahaha. Paul will not be a Knick in the short term. MAYBE next summer...

Febuary21st2011
11-26-2011, 10:59 PM
hahahaha. Paul will not be a Knick in the short term. MAYBE next summer...

4 1st round and 2nd round picks ,ronny turiaf,tony douglas,cash and an IOU=paul

book it!

kjoke
11-26-2011, 11:00 PM
You are not a Knick, you are part to the Knicks.

daleja424
11-26-2011, 11:01 PM
4 1st round and 2nd round picks ,ronny turiaf,tony douglas,cash and an IOU=paul

book it!

1) No. That would take 8+ years to complete all terms of that deal.

2) Not enough physical talent

3) I really cannot see the NBA pulling the trigger on destroyed the Hornets franchise.

GoPacers33
11-26-2011, 11:02 PM
Doesn't this belong in the Heat forum

Cano-Montero...
11-26-2011, 11:02 PM
heat can keep miller and still make all there moves

agree with this..

lavilevi23
11-26-2011, 11:02 PM
4 1st round and 2nd round picks ,ronny turiaf,tony douglas,cash and an IOU=paul

book it!

WTF makes you think they are that dumb to to that? they can get much more from almost any team.

effen5
11-26-2011, 11:03 PM
4 1st round and 2nd round picks ,ronny turiaf,tony douglas,cash and an IOU=paul

book it!

I might be crazy but I don't think Chris Paul is worth 4 first round picks. (Depending on where the picks are)

Febuary21st2011
11-26-2011, 11:04 PM
I might be crazy but I don't think Chris Paul is worth 4 first round picks. (Depending on where the picks are)

2 1st round picks, cash, turiaf, douglas, and an IOU

daleja424
11-26-2011, 11:04 PM
heat can keep miller and still make all there moves

This is true in the short term.

effen5
11-26-2011, 11:07 PM
2 1st round picks, cash, turiaf, douglas, and an IOU

Oh ok and then Bulls will trade for D12 with Kyle Korver and Keith Bogans.

Edit: Holy **** I hit 6k posts.... I need to get off these forums lol.

NYKnicksAllDay
11-26-2011, 11:08 PM
WTF makes you think they are that dumb to to that? they can get much more from almost any team.

It's obvious this is RekeHavoc attempting to troll. I'd just ignore anything he says.

Febuary21st2011
11-26-2011, 11:11 PM
Oh ok and then Bulls will trade for D12 with Kyle Korver and Keith Bogans.

Edit: Holy **** I hit 6k posts.... I need to get off these forums lol.

you dont have the cap space we do

Febuary21st2011
11-26-2011, 11:12 PM
It's obvious this is RekeHavoc attempting to troll. I'd just ignore anything he says.

-_-

still a fan
11-26-2011, 11:13 PM
Heat keep Miller they pay this new very expensive luxury tax.....so that MLE player will actually cost a fortune.

beasted86
11-26-2011, 11:14 PM
1) No. That would take 8+ years to complete all terms of that deal.

2) Not enough physical talent

3) I really cannot see the NBA pulling the trigger on destroyed the Hornets franchise.

The Knicks don't have a 1st round pick to trade until 2017. Then add 8 years to that.

still a fan
11-26-2011, 11:16 PM
The Knicks don't have a 1st round pick to trade until 2017. Then add 8 years to that.

Knicks need to hope Iman is all that and pick up some good amnesty players to even think trade?

Or if he truly wants to come its FA in 2012.

beasted86
11-26-2011, 11:17 PM
Heat keep Miller they pay this new very expensive luxury tax.....so that MLE player will actually cost a fortune.


Even with signing Chalmers, Cole, keeping Miller, and using the full MLE, the Heat would probably stay in the first $5M tier of the luxury tax. Later years become a problem, but we'd never lose the ability to amnesty Miller.

llemon
11-26-2011, 11:18 PM
Plenty of teams in need of a Center that can offer Dalembert a lot more money than Miami can.

Big Zo
11-26-2011, 11:21 PM
Plenty of teams in need of a Center that can offer Dalembert a lot more money than Miami can.

But Pat Riley will get him discounted. :p

Dade County
11-26-2011, 11:21 PM
Plenty of teams in need of a Center that can offer Dalembert a lot more money than Miami can.

Don't you understand by now...... That the HEAT get players Discounted :D

daleja424
11-26-2011, 11:24 PM
Heat keep Miller they pay this new very expensive luxury tax.....so that MLE player will actually cost a fortune.

incorrect. tax remains the same as it has been (1 to 1) for the first two years of this deal.

Miami should be able to resign chalmers and add a full MLE and still have a fairly small tax bill.

daleja424
11-26-2011, 11:25 PM
Plenty of teams in need of a Center that can offer Dalembert a lot more money than Miami can.

but none of the good ones can/will.

and Miami's MLE is worth significantly more than everyone else's...

Eagles4Lyfe
11-26-2011, 11:29 PM
I thought I was in the NBA forum not the Miami heat forum

Slug3
11-26-2011, 11:30 PM
Plenty of teams in need of a Center that can offer Dalembert a lot more money than Miami can.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isnt Zo and Dalembert good friends or friends? I do know they go to Hatti to do a lot of good work I believe. Or it might be some place else.

daleja424
11-26-2011, 11:31 PM
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isnt Zo and Dalembert good friends or friends? I do know they go to Hatti to do a lot of good work I believe. Or it might be some place else.

this is accurate.

Big Zo
11-26-2011, 11:33 PM
I thought I was in the NBA forum not the Miami heat forum

This is the Heat forum. We purchased it on July 8, 2010.

LA_Raiders
11-26-2011, 11:42 PM
welcome to the lake show miller

Eagles4Lyfe
11-26-2011, 11:44 PM
This is the Heat forum. We purchased it on July 8, 2010.

Where are the rings to back it up;)????

This is Kobe Bryants forum

beasted86
11-26-2011, 11:46 PM
This is the Heat forum. We purchased it on July 8, 2010.

Yup.

This used to be the LeBron vs. Kobe forum, and on July 8th it became Heat hater central.

PacersForLife
11-26-2011, 11:46 PM
Well if we wanna go pipe dreamin on this thing we could do this....
Pacers get: Chris Paul
Hornets get: Darren Collison, Roy Hibbert, Brandon Rush, maybe a pick
This could be on of the fairest trades they would find, they've had interest in Rush before, they more than likely didn't like parting ways with Darren Collison, they also need a true center...
Pacers lineup:
PG: Chris Paul
SG: Paul George
SF: Danny Granger
PF:Nene or David West via free agency
C:Nene or someone else via free agency
I have no belief this would ever happen, but its better than what most teams could do...

Big Zo
11-26-2011, 11:47 PM
Where are the rings to back it up;)????

This is Kobe Bryants forum

Well, there is that one from 2006. More to follow. :cool:

Angelus™
11-26-2011, 11:48 PM
welcome to the lake show miller

I hope not

Eagles4Lyfe
11-26-2011, 11:49 PM
Well, there is that one from 2006. More to follow. :cool:

Huh but you said you guys purchased this on july 8th 2010, there has to be some way you guys gained control over everyone:p. What exactly is that reason??

Big Zo
11-26-2011, 11:54 PM
Huh but you said you guys purchased this on july 8th 2010, there has to be some way you guys gained control over everyone:p. What exactly is that reason??

We were smart shoppers and got some nice discounts. This forum alone only cost tree fiddy. ;)

Eagles4Lyfe
11-27-2011, 12:02 AM
We were smart shoppers and got some nice discounts. This forum alone only cost tree fiddy. ;)

Well Black Friday doesn't always end up being a wise investment;)

lavilevi23
11-27-2011, 12:07 AM
welcome to the lake show miller

We're not waving him -_-

daleja424
11-27-2011, 12:08 AM
Well Black Friday doesn't always end up being a wise investment;)

it does when you buy quality products...

its not like Lebron James is an Emerson television... we are talking Samsung/Sony

Eagles4Lyfe
11-27-2011, 12:19 AM
it does when you buy quality products...

its not like Lebron James is an Emerson television... we are talking Samsung/Sony

Well Joel Anthony is like a 10 inch toshiba and Chris Bosh is like an LG flat that has bad picture quality from time to time..

Now im not trying to bait:p but who the heck annoited you guys the kings of this forum. Raptors fans run it all day everyday

daleja424
11-27-2011, 12:21 AM
lol... who wants to be the kings? :P

Knicks21
11-27-2011, 12:22 AM
Dalembert is going to want big money, not mle. He said it a while back.

ManRam
11-27-2011, 12:23 AM
Wow.

We're already in mid-season form with the terrible posting in this forum...wow.


I am surprised they're axing Miller...they better get a quality center now. I think Miller, when healthy, would/will/coule've been a great asset to that team.

daleja424
11-27-2011, 12:25 AM
Dalembert is going to want big money, not mle. He said it a while back.

that will be up to him.

there isn't "big money" out there in any competitive markets really though...

and Miami's MLE is worth more than others, as well as being close to his home country.

daleja424
11-27-2011, 12:25 AM
Wow.

We're already in mid-season form with the terrible posting in this forum...wow.


I am surprised they're axing Miller...they better get a quality center now. I think Miller, when healthy, would/will/coule've been a great asset to that team.

will not HAVE to ax miller right away actally...

lavilevi23
11-27-2011, 12:33 AM
does any other contender that needs a center have more than a MLE to offer Dalembert?

Knicks21
11-27-2011, 12:35 AM
does any other contender that needs a center have more than a MLE to offer Dalembert?

Maybe he won't got to a contender? Maybe he just wants the money. :shrug:

Knicks21
11-27-2011, 12:36 AM
Brandon Haywood will pull an Erik Dampier. Haywood is more likely to be on the heat than Dalembert.

Eagles4Lyfe
11-27-2011, 12:42 AM
Wow.

We're already in mid-season form with the terrible posting in this forum...wow.


I am surprised they're axing Miller...they better get a quality center now. I think Miller, when healthy, would/will/coule've been a great asset to that team.

You calling my posting terrible:eyebrow: I was sticking up for the forum we love and beleive in most

John Walls Era
11-27-2011, 01:14 AM
What happened to Nene wanting to go there?

Sadds The Gr8
11-27-2011, 01:17 AM
Heat forum? and Mike Miller is ****in crust.

MTar786
11-27-2011, 01:29 AM
the heat need to sign a 3 that knows how to play in the 4th quarter lol

Rego247
11-27-2011, 01:36 AM
Umm heat forum?

NY007
11-27-2011, 01:43 AM
It's gonna be between Knicks and the Heat for Dalembert..

John Walls Era
11-27-2011, 01:47 AM
I just realized how this isn't even news. A NBA team is going to sign a player (wow that hasn't been done before) and nothing has been confirmed...

Heat Forum

Corey
11-27-2011, 01:52 AM
This is completely speculative and belongs in the Heat forum.