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JordansBulls
11-20-2011, 01:56 PM
Was watching a playoff game of Barkley back in 1991 and remember how dominant the guy was which prompted me to realize why the Sixers would trade someone of his caliber in the first place a year later in the summer.

Does anyone remember exactly why did the Sixers trade Charles Barkley to the Suns in the summer of '92?

Was Barkley asking out to go elsewhere and saying once his contract was up he was going to leave? Does anyone remember?


Here was the trade details


June 17, 1992: Charles Barkley was Traded by the Philadelphia 76ers to the Phoenix Suns for Jeff Hornacek, Andrew Lang and Tim Perry

bootsy
11-20-2011, 02:11 PM
Because Barkley whined and complained his way out of Philly several times mainly because Philly management wasn't getting him help as far as star players to play with him.

Hellcrooner
11-20-2011, 02:14 PM
he wanted out.

JasonJohnHorn
11-20-2011, 03:22 PM
He demanded a trade and let it be known that he wasn't planning on staying in Philly unless they put a contender around him, which they, for some reason, couldnt seem to be able to do.

Manute Bol at center? Seriously?

Philly had a good team, but it just couldnt compete with Chicago or Detroit, or Boston for that matter. They had Barkley, Malone , Cheeks, and Dr. J all at one time, and Barkley was supposed to the youthful force to help that team transistion, but Philly traded Malone and Catlidge, along with two first round picks for Cliff Robinson... and not even THAT Cliff Robinson and Jeff Ruland. SMH.

You got an MVP like Malone in his prime, you DO NOT TRADE HIM!!!! PERIOD!!!

Can you imagine what Malone and Barkley would have accomplished together? With Dr. J? Even an aging Dr. J. And prime Cheeks handling the ball. Add Hawkins in there spread the floor, that team would have dominated. But Philly's front office had no idea how to build or keep a team, and so, instead of Barkley and Malone in the front court, with Cheeks and Hawkins in the back court, and Dr. J at small forward, and Gilliam coming off the bench, and they ended up with Barkley and Manute Bol and Dawkins and Hawkins. Not exactly maximizing your potential there.

Trading Malone was the biggest mistake. Even though they drafted well, they couldnt put togethers a contender and made bad trade (they let Jayson Williams go, trade Malone, Cheeks.

Barkley was understanably frustrated with Philly. And Philly couldnt build around Barkley and so needed to blow the team up.

Its too bad, because Hawkins and Barkley were two great players to build around.

Hellcrooner
11-20-2011, 03:50 PM
He demanded a trade and let it be known that he wasn't planning on staying in Philly unless they put a contender around him, which they, for some reason, couldnt seem to be able to do.

Manute Bol at center? Seriously?

Philly had a good team, but it just couldnt compete with Chicago or Detroit, or Boston for that matter. They had Barkley, Malone , Cheeks, and Dr. J all at one time, and Barkley was supposed to the youthful force to help that team transistion, but Philly traded Malone and Catlidge, along with two first round picks for Cliff Robinson... and not even THAT Cliff Robinson and Jeff Ruland. SMH.

You got an MVP like Malone in his prime, you DO NOT TRADE HIM!!!! PERIOD!!!

Can you imagine what Malone and Barkley would have accomplished together? With Dr. J? Even an aging Dr. J. And prime Cheeks handling the ball. Add Hawkins in there spread the floor, that team would have dominated. But Philly's front office had no idea how to build or keep a team, and so, instead of Barkley and Malone in the front court, with Cheeks and Hawkins in the back court, and Dr. J at small forward, and Gilliam coming off the bench, and they ended up with Barkley and Manute Bol and Dawkins and Hawkins. Not exactly maximizing your potential there.

Trading Malone was the biggest mistake. Even though they drafted well, they couldnt put togethers a contender and made bad trade (they let Jayson Williams go, trade Malone, Cheeks.

Barkley was understanably frustrated with Philly. And Philly couldnt build around Barkley and so needed to blow the team up.

Its too bad, because Hawkins and Barkley were two great players to build around.


Jeff ruland was an allstar center, but he had a career ending injury, that was tough luck.
Then Johny Dawkins that was a Great player too had a similar fate with injurys that basically destroyed Philly chances .

KnicksorBust
11-20-2011, 03:52 PM
He demanded a trade and let it be known that he wasn't planning on staying in Philly unless they put a contender around him, which they, for some reason, couldnt seem to be able to do.

Manute Bol at center? Seriously?

Philly had a good team, but it just couldnt compete with Chicago or Detroit, or Boston for that matter. They had Barkley, Malone , Cheeks, and Dr. J all at one time, and Barkley was supposed to the youthful force to help that team transistion, but Philly traded Malone and Catlidge, along with two first round picks for Cliff Robinson... and not even THAT Cliff Robinson and Jeff Ruland. SMH.

You got an MVP like Malone in his prime, you DO NOT TRADE HIM!!!! PERIOD!!!

Can you imagine what Malone and Barkley would have accomplished together? With Dr. J? Even an aging Dr. J. And prime Cheeks handling the ball. Add Hawkins in there spread the floor, that team would have dominated. But Philly's front office had no idea how to build or keep a team, and so, instead of Barkley and Malone in the front court, with Cheeks and Hawkins in the back court, and Dr. J at small forward, and Gilliam coming off the bench, and they ended up with Barkley and Manute Bol and Dawkins and Hawkins. Not exactly maximizing your potential there.

Trading Malone was the biggest mistake. Even though they drafted well, they couldnt put togethers a contender and made bad trade (they let Jayson Williams go, trade Malone, Cheeks.

Barkley was understanably frustrated with Philly. And Philly couldnt build around Barkley and so needed to blow the team up.

Its too bad, because Hawkins and Barkley were two great players to build around.

Moses and Barkley were both top 5 offensive rebounders even on the same team. You won't see that again.

JordansBulls
11-20-2011, 08:54 PM
Because Barkley whined and complained his way out of Philly several times mainly because Philly management wasn't getting him help as far as star players to play with him.

Found an article on it.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/18/sports/basketball-bright-day-for-suns-they-get-barkley.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm

ink
11-20-2011, 09:04 PM
Found an article on it.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/18/sports/basketball-bright-day-for-suns-they-get-barkley.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm

Had to laugh at the $14M salary cap in 1992.

KeepMonta#8
11-20-2011, 11:55 PM
Because Barkley whined and complained his way out of Philly several times mainly because Philly management wasn't getting him help as far as star players to play with him.

lol then why dose he criticize lebron for wanting to play with stars?

JordansBulls
11-21-2011, 01:19 AM
Had to laugh at the $14M salary cap in 1992.

Yeah it is interesting that Joe Johnson now makes more than the entire team made the entire season in 1993.

Corey
11-21-2011, 01:37 AM
lol then why dose he criticize lebron for wanting to play with stars?

That's not why Chuck criticizes Lebron, but I'm not turning this into a Lebron thread.

JordansBulls
12-01-2011, 01:31 PM
I just find it interesting all the talent Barkley played with. When he came in he played with Moses Malone and Dr J.

Hellcrooner
12-01-2011, 01:34 PM
^ to be honest he played with Dr Js, corpse and Malones Shadow.

JordansBulls
12-01-2011, 01:36 PM
^ to be honest he played with Dr Js, corpse and Malones Shadow.

Dr J averaged 20 and 5 and Moses Malone averaged 25 and 13.

smith&wesson
12-01-2011, 01:44 PM
76ers had a good thing. they made poor decisions.

sir charles barkley was a beast!!

colinskik
12-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Why would you ever blow up a team with Barkley, Malone and Dr. J? If nothing else, they had names to attract crowds, right?

Hellcrooner
12-01-2011, 02:33 PM
Why would you ever blow up a team with Barkley, Malone and Dr. J? If nothing else, they had names to attract crowds, right?

Dr J retired, Moses Malone was getting old so they wanted to build a younger team around barkley

June 16, 1986: Traded by the Philadelphia 76ers with Terry Catledge, a 1986 1st round draft pick (Anthony Jones) and a 1988 1st round draft pick (Harvey Grant) to the Washington Bullets for Cliff Robinson and Jeff Ruladn.

Cliff RObinson was at his prime at that moment, being a constatn 18 ppg dude.

Jeff Ruland was a YOung ALLSTAR (1984) center , and sixers underestimated the fact he was coming from two injury riddled seasons.
Had he not broke out completely once on the sixers, it would have been a good trade to be honest.