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C-Style
11-07-2011, 10:29 PM
Like him or not, these are all impressive scoring accomplishments:


When scoring 40+(107 games)
-45.4 PPG
-6.1 RPG
-4.1 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.6 BPG
-51.0% from the field
-44.2% from downtown
-85.7% from the line
-59.4 TS%
-30.3 FGA/game
-13.5 FTA/game
-Lakers went 73-34(.682)
-15 double-doubles(12 double digit rebounds and 3 double digit assists)
-Attempted fewer than 30 field goal attempts on 55 occasions
-Went to the foul line 15+ times on 40 occasions
-Went to the foul line 20+ times on 14 occasions


When scoring 50+(23 games)
-54.9 PPG
-6.4 RPG
-3.4 APG
-1.6 SPG
-0.5 BPG
-54.0% from the field
-47.2% from downtown
-89.3% from the line
-62.2 TS%
-34.3 FGA/game
-15.2 FTA/game
-Lakers went 17-6(.739)


When scoring 60+(5 games)
-65.8 PPG
-5.2 RPG
-2.4 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.4 BPG
-58.7% from the field
-52.1% from downtown
-92.6% from the line
-67.6 TS%
-36.8 FGA/game
-19.0 FTA/game
-Lakers went 5-0(1.0)

:clap:

gwrighter
11-07-2011, 10:38 PM
:cheer:

LetsgoPack
11-07-2011, 10:53 PM
cool?

NastyNas
11-07-2011, 11:08 PM
that's nice and all but how many of those translated to wins, just asking :shrug:

Chacarron
11-07-2011, 11:12 PM
That's impressive.

C-Style
11-07-2011, 11:13 PM
that's nice and all but how many of those translated to wins, just asking :shrug:


When scoring 40+(107 games)
-45.4 PPG
-6.1 RPG
-4.1 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.6 BPG
-51.0% from the field
-44.2% from downtown
-85.7% from the line
-59.4 TS%
-30.3 FGA/game
-13.5 FTA/game
-Lakers went 73-34(.682)
-15 double-doubles(12 double digit rebounds and 3 double digit assists)
-Attempted fewer than 30 field goal attempts on 55 occasions
-Went to the foul line 15+ times on 40 occasions
-Went to the foul line 20+ times on 14 occasions


When scoring 50+(23 games)
-54.9 PPG
-6.4 RPG
-3.4 APG
-1.6 SPG
-0.5 BPG
-54.0% from the field
-47.2% from downtown
-89.3% from the line
-62.2 TS%
-34.3 FGA/game
-15.2 FTA/game
-Lakers went 17-6(.739)


When scoring 60+(5 games)
-65.8 PPG
-5.2 RPG
-2.4 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.4 BPG
-58.7% from the field
-52.1% from downtown
-92.6% from the line
-67.6 TS%
-36.8 FGA/game
-19.0 FTA/game
-Lakers went 5-0(1.0)

GodsSon
11-07-2011, 11:18 PM
And that's why he's the second greatest SG ever

Hawkeye15
11-07-2011, 11:23 PM
yes, we all know Kobe is one of the top 5-12 players ever, depending on personal ranking. These stats are impressive, and known.

pd1dish
11-07-2011, 11:31 PM
his shooting percentages are pretty amazing for all those games. i would have guessed somewhere around 45% and a lot of the points being a result from getting to the line a lot (which obviously for many of those he did). but an average above 50% over all those games is amazing.

Tony_Starks
11-08-2011, 12:01 AM
Those are like video game numbers, its not even fair. Outside of Laker fans though I doubt Kobe will truly get the full appreciation until after retirement and they start comparing everyone after him to what he did and really see how ridiculous it was.

I have a feeling that Kobe is going to become the legend to the next generation of fans like MJ is today.....

NastyNas
11-08-2011, 12:04 AM
Uhhg lol I'm blind

Tony_Starks
11-08-2011, 12:07 AM
^don't like girls?:(

beliges
11-08-2011, 12:13 AM
Those are like video game numbers, its not even fair. Outside of Laker fans though I doubt Kobe will truly get the full appreciation until after retirement and they start comparing everyone after him to what he did and really see how ridiculous it was.

I have a feeling that Kobe is going to become the legend to the next generation of fans like MJ is today.....

Ive always felt people will truly realize Kobe's greatness after hes gone. Hes the last one with that old school mentality for the game. A dieing breed. They just dont make them like that anymore.

bholly
11-08-2011, 12:18 AM
aren't most of those stats relatively unremarkable given the 'when scoring x+' conditions?

the most amazing, by far, is just the number of times he's done each.

Raps08-09 Champ
11-08-2011, 12:20 AM
Kobe>You

GREATNESS ONE
11-08-2011, 01:27 AM
Kobe>You

:nod:

MTar786
11-08-2011, 02:18 AM
Only Kobe Bryant

nickdymez
11-08-2011, 03:06 AM
that's nice and all but how many of those translated to wins, just asking :shrug:

did you not read the post?

nickdymez
11-08-2011, 03:07 AM
yes, we all know Kobe is one of the top 5-12 players ever, depending on personal ranking. These stats are impressive, and known.

lol@ top 12...

Lakers + Giants
11-08-2011, 03:34 AM
lol@ top 12...

like he said, personal ranking. he also basically said he can be considered 5th best.

Nothing wrong with that when players like Jordan, Kareem, Johnson, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Bird, Robertson, West, Hakeem, Erving, etc. . have played the game.

Anilyzer
11-08-2011, 05:04 AM
Like him or not, these are all impressive scoring accomplishments:


When scoring 40+(107 games)
-45.4 PPG
-6.1 RPG
-4.1 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.6 BPG
-51.0% from the field
-44.2% from downtown
-85.7% from the line
-59.4 TS%
-30.3 FGA/game
-13.5 FTA/game
-Lakers went 73-34(.682)
-15 double-doubles(12 double digit rebounds and 3 double digit assists)
-Attempted fewer than 30 field goal attempts on 55 occasions
-Went to the foul line 15+ times on 40 occasions
-Went to the foul line 20+ times on 14 occasions


When scoring 50+(23 games)
-54.9 PPG
-6.4 RPG
-3.4 APG
-1.6 SPG
-0.5 BPG
-54.0% from the field
-47.2% from downtown
-89.3% from the line
-62.2 TS%
-34.3 FGA/game
-15.2 FTA/game
-Lakers went 17-6(.739)


When scoring 60+(5 games)
-65.8 PPG
-5.2 RPG
-2.4 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.4 BPG
-58.7% from the field
-52.1% from downtown
-92.6% from the line
-67.6 TS%
-36.8 FGA/game
-19.0 FTA/game
-Lakers went 5-0(1.0)

:clap:


Awesome.

You should also do one for when he scores 80+ in a game. I think the FG% is like 67% or something.

Supreme LA
11-08-2011, 05:44 AM
It's going to be a sad day for basketball fans the day he retires. All basketball fans will be missing something special. Kobe is a throwback player and I truly believe he and Duncan are a dying breed. How many other complete players are there in the league today? I don't even think Kobe haters will realize what the game will be missing until he really does retire.

No matter how special Lebron and Wades athletic ability may be, at this stage in their careers, it's already apparent that they won't develop and master the complete fundamentals and skills of basketball the way Kobe has as they have even admitted themselves on occasion.

I'm actually getting sad just thinking about it...there won't be another MJ, but there also won't be another Kobe. Those two are in a class of their own.

AndyfromNeptune
11-08-2011, 12:28 PM
It's going to be a sad day for basketball fans the day he retires. All basketball fans will be missing something special. Kobe is a throwback player and I truly believe he and Duncan are a dying breed. How many other complete players are there in the league today? I don't even think Kobe haters will realize what the game will be missing until he really does retire.

No matter how special Lebron and Wades athletic ability may be, at this stage in their careers, it's already apparent that they won't develop and master the complete fundamentals and skills of basketball the way Kobe has as they have even admitted themselves on occasion.

I'm actually getting sad just thinking about it...there won't be another MJ, but there also won't be another Kobe. Those two are in a class of their own.

You are right. I cannot really think of too many players in the future or now who have that "kobe" and "mj" potential or even their work ethic.

Off the top of my head, maybe Kevin Durant? Marshon Brooks? (cuz he shoots like kobe!) Demar Derozan?


I dont know man. These next couple of years, we are going to see the decade of great point guards. The days of great shooting guards is over.

AndyfromNeptune
11-08-2011, 12:28 PM
*are over

#grammarfreak

zizo
11-08-2011, 01:47 PM
lol@ top 12...

Lebron fans have him @ 12

YoungOne
11-08-2011, 02:00 PM
ur only showing his good games...

now do it for games he scored under 30...

Shmontaine
11-08-2011, 02:15 PM
why is this a surprise??? wow, when he scored a lot, he made a lot of shots.... that's an amazing correlation...

i bet all of his <10 ppg games he played he had pretty poor fg%, 3pt% as well... just a guess...

Hawkeye15
11-08-2011, 02:19 PM
It's going to be a sad day for basketball fans the day he retires. All basketball fans will be missing something special. Kobe is a throwback player and I truly believe he and Duncan are a dying breed. How many other complete players are there in the league today? I don't even think Kobe haters will realize what the game will be missing until he really does retire.

No matter how special Lebron and Wades athletic ability may be, at this stage in their careers, it's already apparent that they won't develop and master the complete fundamentals and skills of basketball the way Kobe has as they have even admitted themselves on occasion.

I'm actually getting sad just thinking about it...there won't be another MJ, but there also won't be another Kobe. Those two are in a class of their own.

for the younger fans it will be very sad. I have seen Dr. J, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Jordan, and Hakeem retire. Its always sad when an all time great hangs it up, but its part of the game. Oh well. There are always future generations with guys waiting to take the torch from the current greats. That is more exciting imo.

There won't be another anyone dude. I am just happy I was able to watch over half the top 15 ever in my basketball lifetime.

Hawkeye15
11-08-2011, 02:20 PM
While I am not trying to downplay these numbers AT ALL, pull up Jordan's scoring numbers. They will blow you away.

WeaponXXX
11-08-2011, 02:54 PM
Put it to rest. Different people in different times. They were each the best in the league when they were at the prime.


What would be cool is if we take the best laker team with Kobe and the best Chicago team with MJ and then we simulate a 7 game series on 2k12 :)

sixer04fan
11-08-2011, 02:54 PM
aren't most of those stats relatively unremarkable given the 'when scoring x+' conditions?

the most amazing, by far, is just the number of times he's done each.

My thought's exactly. Don't get me wrong, it's very impressive that he's accomplished all this, but am I supposed to be shocked that when he scores between 40-50 points, he averages 45 ppg?

Da Knicks
11-08-2011, 03:35 PM
I never was a fan of Kobe and probably never will be, the series against the kings and the one against the blazers made me dislike him and shaq. The attitudes those two had was not something i was a fan of, they always came across as big douches to me. As far as the game they played i liked shaq better since he was more original. Kobe was just a poor mans jordan and being a knicks fan made me not like Kobe since Jordan was the biggest douche ever and continues to be.

Hawkeye15
11-08-2011, 04:07 PM
Put it to rest. Different people in different times. They were each the best in the league when they were at the prime.


What would be cool is if we take the best laker team with Kobe and the best Chicago team with MJ and then we simulate a 7 game series on 2k12 :)

nobody can even make a possible case for anyone being better than MJ during his peak. The same can not be said of Kobe, or any other player for that matter.

PocketKings
11-08-2011, 04:20 PM
As a Lakers fan, I don't think it is too crazy to say that Kobe is a top 7-12 player all time.

He is my favorite player of all time, because I grew up watching and idolizing him.

I know I'll cry the day he retires.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
11-08-2011, 04:23 PM
it will be a sad day when Kobe retires

Hawkeye15
11-08-2011, 04:43 PM
As a Lakers fan, I don't think it is too crazy to say that Kobe is a top 7-12 player all time.

He is my favorite player of all time, because I grew up watching and idolizing him.

I know I'll cry the day he retires.

as a person who despises the Lakers, and Kobe, I too think he is a top 10 player of all time. Just because you can't stand a guy doesn't mean you can't respect his game and properly evaluate him.

GodsSon
11-08-2011, 06:24 PM
You are right. I cannot really think of too many players in the future or now who have that "kobe" and "mj" potential or even their work ethic.

Off the top of my head, maybe Kevin Durant? Marshon Brooks? (cuz he shoots like kobe!) Demar Derozan?


I dont know man. These next couple of years, we are going to see the decade of great point guards. The days of great shooting guards is over.

Love that mention.

His offensive repertoire is becoming very Kobe-esque, which just so happens to coincide with Kobe taking him under his wing this off-season; not to mention he does have the work ethic.

We'll see just how much his game expands when the season begins.

Matter.
11-08-2011, 06:35 PM
95 Wins.... 40 losses... 95-40 (.703)