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5ass
11-02-2011, 03:30 AM
Lets say in the next CBA they include an amnesty clause, can a players contract get "amnestied" and then he resigns with the team for a cheaper contract?

I mean in theory it doesn't sound wrong, what if a player like I dont know say elton brand gets amnestied but he wanted to stay in Philly for some reason, can he do that?

The reason i ask is this, what if the bulls amnestied boozers contract based on an agreement between him and the bulls GM that he will then resign for much much cheaper (about vet. minimun). Only 2 million will affect their salary cap (but ofcourse boozer still gets paid a lot) and then they would then have enough cap space to sign howard and keep boozer, have a roster of
Rose/watson
MLE player/Korver/Brewer (or trade asik a first and brewer korver and get OJ Mayo)
Deng/brewer
Boozer/gibson
Howard/(asik)/thomas

Or what if the knicks do the same with Stoudemire or Carmelo? Can they Sign Paul outright and then sign some1 like Dalembart for the MLE?
Paul/Douglas
Fields/Shumpert
Melo/Fields
Amare/Williams
Dalembart/rookies

Could the heat do the same with bosh or james? Then sign a good Center like McGee for example?
Chalmers/veteran PG
Wade/Miller
James/Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Mcgee/Anthony

abe_froman
11-02-2011, 03:37 AM
no.the amnestied player can only sign with a different team.

Cal827
11-02-2011, 03:42 AM
Likely not b/c smaller market teams would get angry since some of the elite players might actually agree to amnesty, then take the vet min, allowing a stacked team to get even further stacked.

For example, what if Wade decides to take the vet min? That might give Miami the ability to sign Dwight Howard (or another near-max deal). Imagine how the owners would freak over:

Chalmers/Who Cares
Wade
Lebron
Bosh
Howard

lol that would probably kill Dan Gilbert.

Hellcrooner
11-02-2011, 03:47 AM
not unles owners are more cinical that they look like.

of course that doesnt mean all those cut players wont reinforce contenders, but at least it wont be an auto cheat

5ass
11-02-2011, 04:14 AM
no.the amnestied player can only sign with a different team.

so if thats true, what if 2 gms play it smart and lets say Bulls GM trades Boozer for Perkins and then they both get amnestied with the agreement that these players can go back to their respective teams for the vet min.? the thunder and the bulls can use their cap space to sign great players, and it wouldnt be such a bad idea to help each other out since theyre not in the same conference.

abe_froman
11-02-2011, 04:21 AM
so if thats true, what if 2 gms play it smart and lets say Bulls GM trades Boozer for Perkins and then they both get amnestied with the agreement that these players can go back to their respective teams for the vet min.? the thunder and the bulls can use their cap space to sign great players, and it wouldnt be such a bad idea to help each other out since theyre not in the same conference.

havent seen anything on it....but i cant see them doing that either as it presents the same problem as your first scenario

bholly
11-02-2011, 04:59 AM
so if thats true, what if 2 gms play it smart and lets say Bulls GM trades Boozer for Perkins and then they both get amnestied with the agreement that these players can go back to their respective teams for the vet min.? the thunder and the bulls can use their cap space to sign great players, and it wouldnt be such a bad idea to help each other out since theyre not in the same conference.

this might be outlawed, but it hasn't really been talked about so far, as far as i know. it might be that you can't trade for a player and amnesty them at all, or at least for a certain amount of time. we won't know for sure until the deal is finalized.

at the very least, if this specific thing wasn't explicitly illegal, making an agreement of that sort would be - there would be an investigation and if there was any proof of an agreement between the two teams, or between either team and one of the players, then there would be some pretty major penalties.

and given boozer's history, he's the last guy you'd want to do this with, unless you didn't care if you lose him altogether.

daleja424
11-02-2011, 08:50 AM
two simple solutions:

1) you cannot resign a player you amnesty cut for the duration of the original contract.
2) you cannot amnesty cut a player that you traded for (only guys under contract with your team the day the cba is signed)

the amnesty rule is there to help teams adjust to the new rules... not to be a work around the rules against restructuring contracts.

Sixerlover
11-02-2011, 02:46 PM
two simple solutions:

1) you cannot resign a player you amnesty cut for the duration of the original contract.
2) you cannot amnesty cut a player that you traded for (only guys under contract with your team the day the cba is signed)

the amnesty rule is there to help teams adjust to the new rules... not to be a work around the rules against restructuring contracts.

That was the rule the last time around if I'm not mistaken. Say the Hawks amnesty Joe Johnson, they won't be able to have him back on the team for the next 5 years.